I'm well aware how supporting trump has become a meme for most of you. But here, In this thread, I'm looking for serious replies. Why do you support trump? Do you really think he can make America great?
>>696426791 >you already know there isn't a good reason to support trump reason 1: he respects my gun rights reason 2: he isn't rigging elections like shillary and the DNC reason 3: hes not a cuck like bernie reason 4: he's gonna make america great again
>>696426618 But Trump only supports the rights of white upper to upper class males. Does that not make you feel bad about voting for him? Minorities are people too. Of course Im arguing this on /b/ so I'm probably the biggest retard in the universe
>>696426893 1- no candidate is trying to repeal the second ammendment 2- that was a primary, republicans tried to do the same shit to prevent trump from getting the nomination 3- "he's not X person" is not a real reason to vote for someone 4- kek
>>696427145 as a Hillary-supporter, I agree with you 100%.
sadly, the alt-right movement is made up of undereducated white millennials from the south and Midwest. most of them are lower-middle-class. felons, degenerates, the unemployed. obese white men who still live at home, at 35.
>>696427359 >1- no candidate is trying to repeal the second ammendment except for hillary wanting to ban guns and bernie having a flaky ass voting record >2 oh it was just a primary that means its ok >republicans tried to do the same shit proof please >he's not X person is not a reason its 100% a reason. Trump is a man of power and poise
>>696425764 This guy is running a center right campaign. The media wants you to think he's suuuuuuper far right. Show me another Republican that says Jenner can use whatever bathroom they want and blast N Carolina over their laws.
He's the only candidate that is trying to help people on both sides of the isle.
He knows how regulations effect all business and says he will so what he can to cut down on them.
When you get the point that dirt coming off of your land, even if your soil tests clean. Is a regulated contaminate you have problems with regulations.
Dude sees what the war on coal has done to the economy and what it effects. Hint: its not just coal it effects.
And lastly, says he will repeal every bit of obamacare except the requirement about pre existing conditions.
Right there with you. All of the demographic info all Trump supporters says they fall in one or all of the following categories:
#1. Old (meaning older than 30) #2. Uneducated (High School diploma or less) #3. Poor (making less than the poverty line)
I got some family members that are hitting the FB hard with Trump propaganda. They fit all three categories. They are the black sheep (that don't know their the black sheep). Multiple kids with multiple men/women, racist, 10th grade education, used to be factory workers before the factories left. Now work at Walmart and yet somehow still are able to buy Harley Davidsons and guns.
I'm not describing every Trump supporter out there, I'm describing the ones in my family.
>>696425764 I don't think he will make America great again, hopefully just a slightly better place. Anyway I absolutely fell for his way to conduct his campaign and, more importantly, I deeply despise Hillary and her aggressive and invasive campaign full of obvious race baiting.
I do not support Trump. He is staggeringly ignorant about the job he is asking us to give him.
Nor do I support Clinton. She is a corrupt crook who, with her decision to use an unsecured server just so any criminal e-mails she might want to send would not be subject to FOI requests, proved she puts her needs way ahead of her country.
Can't vote for the idiot Libertarians, who are not to be taken seriously as a party.
I have been a pretty dedicated Republican, and worked on a number of GOP political campaigns, and as a staffer in GOP Senator's office.
Best I can do this time is leave the Presidential vote blank, and try to elect as many good candidates down ballot as I can.
Trump has devised a plan to get us out of debt, many people have said that this plan is only theoretical and couldn't work outside of the mind such as communism but the points they make are weak and very bias
Trump also is very consistent on his major points, aside from a few mishaps that don't really change his opinions he is great with staying consistent on shit such as immigration, economy, etc
Trump understands why illegal immigration will destroy our country, with the incoming support for illegal immigrants less and less people are becoming citizens and instead mooching off of citizens with systems such as welfare. Worst of all they don't have to pay taxes but still reek the benefits of them
>>696425764 A lot of people are stupid and fall for the fear mongering and mudraking. People literally believe that roaming immigrant gangs are going to murder them and their families, Hilary will personally come to their door and take away their guns, and that Hilary is a criminal.
That's all it is. Weak-minded people who don't think for themselves falling for some of the oldest propaganda tricks in the book.
>>696425764 No way in hell am I voting for crooked Hillary, and you can be damn sure i don't vote for commie pigs like Gary Anderson. Trump is my candidate because he represents my values, like getting the spics outta here so I can have a job.
>>696427866 Have you ever been to /pol/? Let's say someone makes a nazi thread, that thread will be spammed and is kill. And /pol/ is honestly said 50% memes/shitposting and 50% people with different opinions discussing topics or baits.
/pol/ is alot of things. But it's not a circlejerk like most people say.
>hahaha why would I vote for trump >I'd rather vote for hillary, she totally has never lied, cheated or rigged elections in her favor >thats all nonsense, theres nothing wrong with sending classified information to non-cleared people >theres nothing wrong with rigging elections against opponents. >theres nothing wrong with paying shills to vote for you >theres nothing wrong with lying on every political issue
The people saying that Trump is going to make America great again are the same people that are going to be shocked when the VA falls into further disarray and our vets become treated even worse. You think a poor man of hispanic descent in the military will get quality treatment under Trump? Yeah right.
>>696425764 Here is the honest answer OP While I am voting TRUMP, admitdely he is was not my vote in the primaries. I voted for Rubio in the primaries, but Trump would have been my second choice.
>Trump has run major global business and understands what it takes to build bridges to get what needs to get done accomplished.
>IMO he is a capitalist first, regardless of who he was standing next to in photos from previous elections campaigns, or which party he donated any money to, he did what he needed to do advance his brand. I have no doubt this type of capitalist will be beneficial in clearing out America's budget and balancing our bottom line.
>I like his hard line policies on immigration. My wife and her entire family moved here legally and went through the current system to become citizens. Never seen more patriotic Americans. It is not fair that illegal immigrants get the benefits of a system meant to help it legal citizens while not paying into that system. Will he be able to send out search teams to find every illegal immigrant? Honest answer is no. But by enforcing a policy that cracks down on illegal immigration we can weed out those illegally in the country through access to the benefits and programs that they are currently benefiting from (i.e. driver's licenses, healthcare, pubic education and collegiate tuition rates, gov assistance, etc.) No legal documentation no benefits.
>Trumps mouth, which is admitledy foot-in-mouth sometimes, is not censored and shows what the man is really thinking. I, like many of my fellow woters are sick of walking on eggshells, so much so that even the slightest things is offensive. I am all for mutual respect of other Americans, but we are all adult and no one needs to hold your hand when you are offended by something. It is ridiculous. But personal thoughts aside, any president will have to still work with their cabinet, advisors, chiefs, and congress to get things done and the of the non PC phrases will be tempered.
I don't vote, (inb4 underage) but I only disagree with the idea of letting a man that disgusts so many (including myself) achieve presidency. If elected, I believe that the other bodies of government and the voting public will prevent any rash or irresponsible decisions on Trump's part. However, if the masses really are as blind and incompetent as Ibsen portrays them, the future of America looks grim under a leader like Trump. Even if Trump weren't elected, the outrage of envy from his supporters might fuel even more violence among the people than there is already, time to move to Sweden or some shit.
>>696430125 >quoting something that isn't there >I don't vote I don't know who is best for the country among the available candidates, I haven't dug that deep into a utilitarian analysis of each candidates downsides and upsides.
That there says it all. This is what Trump does. Branding. He always calls Hilary "crooked Hilary". Why? Because morons like this fuck don't think about what he's actually saying. They don't see what he's doing. That's how easy these people are to manipulate.
Exactly, and the Earth is flat (because NASA uses fisheye lenses), jet fuel can't melt steal beams, we have lizard overlords, 2001 is Kubrick secretly telling everyone he filmed the moon landing in a studio, there was a 2nd shooter on the grassy knoll...
Honest question as a non American, are illegals and muslims a REALLY huge problem like they are always made out to be? Are there Mexicans roaming the streets stealling jobs and killing families? Are immigrants killing thousands of people? If anything, you Americans are killing yourselves faster than anything else.
>>696430790 >racist Trump That there says it all. This is what Hillary does. Branding. She always calls trump "racist Trump". Why? Because morons like this fuck don't think about what she's actually saying. They don't see what she's doing. That's how easy these people are to manipulate. That's Hillary's base. Gullible, easily manipulated rubes.
>>696427866 >a whiter >racist answer How is this not racist? I'm serious someone explain this to me. And don't come up with that racism requires power bullshit like a fag. Because the potus is black. And jew scream racism all the time and many of them are in a position of power. Like the head of the federal reserve.
>>696430790 Crooked Hillary- she has been renounced as a crook for accepting tons of bribes from enemies and terrorist organizations through the Clinton foundation. The Clinton foundation is run by half the government and is a giant powerhouse in illegal activity
>>696431198 An illegal citizen contributes nothing to the country and leeches off it to an extreme degree. Due to the incompatibility of islam with american values its safe to say that yes illegals are a danger
>>696431152 “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.” -Trump 1989 “Laziness is a trait in blacks.” -Trump 1991
>>696429987 Because of the constitutional requirement for a presidential candidate to get more than 50% of the vote to be elected, an ongoing viable competitive third party is not possible in America. It would mean that many/most elections would be decided by the US House.
China is dying for trump to become president and speed the ruin of western civilization while Japan dislikes trump because he'll fuck up their economy so they prefer Hillary (no weeabs one obscure jpop girl band (maga) song doesn't represent Japan and the commercial was a libtard from usa).
China's been laughing all the way 'their raping our country'.
cut trade see what happens lol So what you want, nother year of status quo or you want to speed the downing of this ship boys
>>696431868 >I'm against gay rights ~ Hillary 1994 >I've always been for gay rights ~ 2008, 2012, 2016 >I support barry gold water and his policies ~ hillary 1966 >I've always been for civil rights of blacks ~ Hillary any day of the week
>>696431419 I know they do all that, but are they really that big of a deal to justify building a massive wall that Mexico has said they will not pay for? Also I have Muslim friends, they are fine with Western government. Have you ever even had a conversation with a muslim about this?
Trump is an idiot and would make a terrible president. I'm voting for him as a wild card. I know what I'll get with Hillary. She's a bigger and better con artist than Trump. I'm hoping he burns the system down so that we can have a serious discussion in before 2021 about serious reforms that benefit the people. Also, 4 years of Republican Trump ensure at least two decades of progressive reform.
>>696430116 I agree with most of your opinions. But you have to admit that both boards have just as many leftwing hippies, wannabe commie-fedorafags who grew up in the suburbs who have never had a job but ''fight for the working class'' and see everyone who disagrees with their opinion as fascists.
look at it like this if we vote for cuntion we are defineently fucked, but with trump we are more than likey fuck so. wouyld you rather have taht 100% chanse of fuckage or that 90% chance of fuckage.... (btw may be druck wotn tel you)
>>696425764 Because I hope that having a republican president again will lead to us beating back the fucking sexual deviant freaks like gays and trans people. They are mental illnesses and the democrats have normalized it and now mentally ill people are being pampered instead of treated and it is ruining our culture.
A lot of stuff comes to mind, it in particular, Hillary does what makes Hillary money. You could say the same for Trump, but Hillary is just two-faced about it. Her foundations are not only funded by groups protecting the rights of women, homosexuals, and "the little guy"; but also by many foreign country governments (in the middle east in particular) that kill gays, arrest women for being raped, and promote corruption from the average police force to the head of state. She is a compulsive liar who manipulates her followers for monetary gain. She has changed her stances over the years to follow the money. Hell, she stole stuff from the White House when she left. I can't blame her for wanting money, but she's getting it by lying and saying she is the champion of the proletariat masses. I'm just hoping Trump stirs the pot and changes something. Anything.
Trump is a Republican who will not turn Social Security into a 401K as Koch Bros want. Will not turn Medicare into a voucher. Will pay attention to what trade deals do to workers who can't easily adapt, and will get our borders under control to stabilize our low wage labor pool. He has no interest in nation-building in the middle east, and wants to shake up the current role of the US as a defacto world policeman that is insanely expensive and has proven a failure for 15 years.
>>696431198 Illegals enter countries and the rapes and murders go up. When they don't get their way with their religion or beliefs they'll kill people. It's happening all around the world. In france there's more terrorist deaths in the past year than there was in the past 30 years combined. Is that enough or do I need to site more examples of whats' going on in reality.
>I was only 9 years old >I loved Donald Trump >I had all the merchandise >Every night I’d pray to Trump for deporting illegal immigrants >My dad would hear me and call me a racist >I knew he was just jealous of my devotion to Donald Trump >I called him a cunt >He slaps me and send me to bed >I’m crying now and my face hurts >I feel a warmth approach me >It was the Donald >I’m so happy >He whispers in my ear “we need to build a wall” >Then he gets me out of bed and reaches in his pocket >I’m ready >I open my wallet for Donald >He gives me a small loan of a million dollars >It hurts so much, but I do it for Donald >I feel my wallet tearing as he puts the money in >He roars a mighty roar as he puts the money in >My dad walks in and says “what the fuck” >Donald Trump looks at him and says “you’re fired” >Trump leaves through the window >Trump is love, Trump is life
>>696425764 I want illegals out. If you live here you're going to pay taxes like everyone else. If you live here that's perfectly fine, but you're going to do it through the proper channels. No one has control over where they're born, if you don't like it - get citizenship. Don't qualify? Too fucking bad.
>>696426470 keep thinking that, he only needs to win 4 blue states, and he's tied in one and leading in the other. so really he needs 2 states and que the music..... everyone meet your new president of the United States of America Mr Donald Trump
>more muslims >more illegal aliens >illegal aliens would be granted residency under her if she had her wishes >the 3rd worldization of america continues >stupid economic policies favouring big businesses, big banking, outsourced work to china, etc. >no really effective way to combat true source of terrorism >continue the lie of multiculturalism and 'islam is a religion of peace and tolerance' >continuation of stupid libtard feminazi pussification of the west
trump has a real chance of turning the tide and SOME type of better barricade and enforcement and discouragement of employing illegals would be a good thing
trump simply will give no tolerance to # black lives matter bullcrap
trump will be more likely to declare state of emergency or actual martial law if warranted and put an end to nonsense and together with putin would be working to kick butt in dar al islam terrorist centres
putin would also normalise relations with russia to the economic, social and political benefits of both countries
yes, i do realise that he is his own world's greatest hero and yeah, most self-made men are walking egos, but at the same time, he's beholden to no one but the actual electorate and will raise the bar (if only for a little while until some libtard fuckhead makes it into office)
the libtards have repeatedly lowered educational standards, bent over backwards to accomodate low IQ illegals from down south, tried desperately to make muslims feel like the special snowflakes papa mohammed told them they were and bought for us nothing but misery and cultural hari-kari
shame on the libtards for trying to make us ashamed of our country, its achievements, our superiority and western civilisation in general
trump, at least, celebrates US and is unashamedly proud of that fact
fox news has literally brain damaged these people. they hate Hillary so much - based on a right-wing news station's lies (and the republican congress). they've spent so much time trying to implicate her. so much money....
and nothing. no indictment. nothing.
While she's not an angel - she's not 1/10000th as bad as any republican portrays.
And she'll win. She won months ago. All just formalities, now.
Trump is the ultimate reset button. For good or for ill. Hillary is the establishment. Same shit, over and over. More special interests, more middle class destruction.
The fact that the DNC secretly stacked the deck against Bernie, and the first thing the Media complex did was ignore the details and blame Russians/Trump, shows CLEARLY that we are going full banana republic.
250,000 Goldman Sachs speech, enough said.
If nothing else, it will be EXTREMELY entertaining.
>>696434700 Explain how well regulated gun control works in chicago where niggers kill niggers at a rate higher than any other race in any other part of america. They have the highest rate of crime involving guns.
Soo.... if chemo isn't working on cancer, i ask you strange retarded liberal, do you try something else or do you try to keep doing the same fucking shit that never works.
>>696425764 He doesn't support the integration of a culture that wants to destroy white Western European civilization.
He doesn't support the futile welfare state, which causes dysgenics and tax cattle.
He doesn't support the socializing of healthcare (which directly affects me because I am a healthcare provider).
He also displays his distaste for reckless money printing, and fiat currency.
If you're a responsible adult (especially a white male) why would you vote for a candidate that will overrun your home town, and destroy your culture by imposing laws (shariah law) that would go against what your country is founded upon? Pursuit of happiness, and the freedom to pursue that happiness in any way you want.
"well-regulated" in the context of the bill of rights, and the language at the time meant "in good functioning order". A well-regulated machine would be oiled. You regulate the diet with whole grains. Words change over time.
If this concept confuses you, go into a gentleman's club and call somebody a humbug.
In 1776 a nobleman would challenge you to a duel and put a .50 cal ball in your chest.
Trump offers a legit chance to shake things up. Hillary is more of the same: decline into debt and degeneracy. That said, she's going to win. Too many cucks will betray their fellow white males to win PA or FLA.
>>696425764 Yes I do. Hillery has never told the truth and has caused way to many wars and deaths. She is pro new world order and the supporter of open boarders and the multicultural termination of the white races.
>>696425764 he's the madman america deserves, and the one it needs right now because he can be what america needs him to be they'll berate him all the time, even after he takes office, because he can take it.
he is THE GOD EMPEROR but seriously, his stance against globalism and upholding the american way is a major reason for my support
He's a billionaire, not the political establishment. The media has been all over him for a reason.
This is the video that the "I'd be a republican because they're stupid and easy to manipulate" meme came from. Aside from him not actually saying that, what he DID say is the same exact thing he's saying now. Most of these "free trade" deals are shit. NAFTA was shit for the working class. The TPP will be shit for the working class. I really do think he believes these concepts, and wants to better America.
That's just one example, too.
Whether or not his polices actually will do that, I don't pretend to know.
>>696436692 "massively" racist? Perhaps to a whiny, oblivious beta-fag who doesn't realize he will squeal about being "woke" all he wants in 2042, but he's still going to be fucked... When the revolution comes all the way, the "good" crackers will just be lumped in with all the crackers.
Between the bitch who blames cops for the Dallas shootings, was a part of rigging the Democratic party, and who wants to take my guns, I'll take the other dude. Trump isn't the smartest, but I'll take him over the lying bitch Hilary. At least I think Trump actually does want to do good by people.
He's not Clinton, and if he bankrupts the US maybe people won't be so retarded to rely on the government -- screw you baby boomers.
I don't actively support Trump, and I would rather have Rubio as the Republican nominee.
Ideally, I support John McAfee because his main point was cyber awareness, and that's something a lot of candidates and people ignore -- at this point Gary Johnson is still better than Clinton or Trump. I promote the Libertarian Party when it comes up.
>>696437726 He's down 8 in PA now dude, I'm not against you but no shot. And Minnesota? Why not Massachusetts too while you're at it. Don't be pissed at me, but at the betafags who Trump makes uncomfortable because they are betafags.
>>696436707 >I had no idea the country was so stable. well no you really don't overall homicide rates have been in a steady decline since the 90s, this is well documented by the FBI, no one is quite sure whats causing this though since the decline is happening in every state regardless of different gun laws, law enforcement policies ect... yet the public perception is that homicides increasing. don't you find this the least bit odd? I'm not a gun nut but I find the notion that the media is creating a world in our heads that doesn't exist as really unnerving. granted I also find that this is happening on the other side of the spectrum too with this perception that illegal immigration is out of control despite research indicated that it has leveled off and is in decline.
>>696438534 He never said he was "dumb" just "not the smartest".
For example, there was one debate where Trump was asked if controling the internet was okay, and he said yes. But Trump didn't mean it in a bad way, it was about the internet in some middle eastern country.
Long story short, his wording could've been better. But that's also what happens if you ask someone who's probably traveling and staying up late with a full schedule a question.
>>696425764 Hillary actually has examples of being human garbage. Trump is juts spewing rhetoric to get people riled up.
Basically it comes down to Hillary actually murdering and being corrupt vs Trump saying "WALLS". Really, which is worse? If you aren't a fucking moron and paying attention you are voting for Trump or Johnson.
>>696439491 I don't know what Trumps end game is. I really don't, and anyone saying he's an idiot is an even bigger moron. Everything he does is very calculated, he's just amazing at keeping you guessing. If people took the time to read any of his books, specifically the ones about strategy, like Art of the Deal, he's using his own training manual.
>>696439138 Roe v. Wade caused crime to drop in the 1990's in every urban area in the US. Abortion universally legal in 1973, poor mothers have fewer live births of crime-prone males and so 17-18 years later, i.e., 1990-92 crime and especially murder rates start to plummet. Whether cities have advanced law crime metrics, super strict drug laws or community policing or none of the above murders start going down in the 1990's and keep going down. Thank Roe v. Wade, not Rudy Giuliani, or the 1994 crime bill or Bill Bratton or Broken Window theory. It's the number of potential criminals born--which when you give a lazy poor ho, a choice, she will have less of if it's legal to do so...
>>696438012 When most of those drugs don't even come from Mexico? Mexican weed is shit, 80% of opiates come from the Middle East, amphetamines are often domestically produced, and hallucinogens are domestically grown/manufactured. Learn facts before you start making stupid claims.
>>696438637 not mad at all bro, 8 points? shit friday he was tied. massive two shits? why would voters go trump there? minn is already republican and they need better trade deals. they used to be always democratic until they fucked the state right into unemployment and failed farming/ agriculture. trump stops TTP minn votes for him.
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