Do any of you dems feel shitty about the fact that the RNC at

>>696358372
so true...

There's absolutely nothing "democratic" about the Democratic Party.

Fuck the DNC and Hillary Clinton.

>>696358372
i just hope bernie announces he is no longer dem and runs as a 3rd party

US election years are so entertaining

>>696358372
its ridiculous how the party elite wanted to call out bernie for being a jew etc and he still hasn't unendorsed clinton
trump is gonna win, not because he necessarily convinced the american people, but because he is now the lesser of two evils

>>696358372
Never really believed in "democracy" since the US is a "republic" (with some elements of democracy).

Kennedy was the last respectable democrat we've had in the US. Not I agree with all his ideologies, but still had some respect for him.

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yeah, Bernie got quintuple fisted with no remorse.

You've got to appreciate how far he got with so little backing him and so much against him.

>>696358372
European here. your system is broke, if one person has the same voting power as an entire district.

>>696358795
ill go one step further and say, if bernie doesnt do what you just said, democracy is officially dead.

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>>696359569
Euro monarchy...one vote can override a nation

Hillary will win either way.

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>>696358372
Clinton won the popular vote too. Even without superdelegates she still would have won.

>>696358372

You won't get an honest answer from a libshit. They are all liars.

>>696359885
Shouldn't that read "try TO stop us"?

That picture he's telling you to stop him.

>>696359951
Fuck off shill, go back to fisting yourself up the pooper

>>696359951

3 million independents in NY alone, not allowed to vote. vote suppression everywhere. who do you think they would have voted for? your pie chart is flawed.

>>696359951
Would that have changed if the DNC hadn't consistently tried to sabotage the Sanders campaign and put their full organization behind Clinton.

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>>696360059
U mad?

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>>696360059
guys what do i do, im black... but i dont want to vote for a fucking cucked communists and crooked shills...additionally i cant be a republican because im not too fond of getting lynched....
i require assistance.

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>>696359951

No one is denying that. She did win but not fair and square. The DNC is supposed to remain impartial. The emails clearly show their bias.

>>696360206
Well of course they're not going to let independents vote in the Democratic Primary. They're not part of the Democratic Party. That would be like letting Republicans vote in the Democratic Primary. Just plain stupid and pointless.

>>696360402
I love that nobody on the DNC side will even talk about this. They want it to go away so badly but it won't. Blaming Putin won't even work now.

>>696360332
go away jamal. go be a nigger somewhere else

>>696360332

You have a choice.

Be a nigger. Or be an American.

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>>696360575

How about the parties stay the fuck out of it and let people vote for whoever they god damn please. You know that crazy thing called democracy.

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Bernie sanders sold out to the very establishment his political revolution was supposed to be against. And the best part is that his supporters were the ones who footed the bill for the whole thing. You guys really showed Wall Street who's boss.

Now, he wants you to vote for the very person who has, as evidence now shows, has nothing but contempt for his very followers. But you're still going to vote for her because that meany Trump said something mean and hurtful.

You guys are beyond any help.

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My face if Hillary actually wins.

#Trump2k16

>>696360784
Fucking cheapasses in Bahrain tho

>>696360255
>>696360402
I seriously doubt the DNC has much real influence over most voter's choices in the primary. No one I know has ever mentioned them among their reasons for backing (or not backing) Clinton. Populists just love to use the "establishment" as an excuse for their own failures and lack of support from the public, and thus love blaming the DNC even though it doesn't have much real power.

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>>696360742
the problem is, i dont know what america is anymore

>>696360575

That's a good strategy to have independents vote for you in November.

Fucking dopes

>>696358795
I hope he does too, so that the Dems split their vote between him and Hillary giving neither one a chance to win.

>>696360784
If want to vote for an independent they can. And if they want to vote for a member of a major party, which the majority obviously do, then they have every right to. Don't blame the establishment just because your own opinions are unpopular.

>>696358795
that would be breaking his democrat pledge or whatever its called

>>696358372
b8 / 10

DNC leak is being tied back to the Trump campaign. FBI is investigating this.

Trump did this to try to win Sanders supporter to his side, while at the same time painting a negative picture of Hillary.

>>696359569
Haha you think we don't know that? Go home eurofag

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>>696360871
this

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>>696360871

What the fuck is he supposed to do? Hand the election over the the orange buffoon that is Trump? Personally I'm not voting for either of these assholes, but I understand Sanders has to bow down to Shillary in order to get some concessions from her. He gave it his all but it's impossible for him to go any further with this. Hillary will put his head on a spike if he doesn't fall in line. He lit the torch of the progressive movement but now it's time for him to pass it on.

>>696361621
Sure, sure. Whatever you say, sweetie. Lie down now and take a little nappy-wappy.

>>696361018

Hillary can't possibly win. There are too many things splitting her vote. Bernie. Third party candidates. The DNC emails. She might lose by a thin margin, but honestly I think that that thin margin will in part be due to elections fraud. There will be a big deal made about illegals in california voting because they have licenses. Of that, I am certain.

>>696361235

Then you're a faggot. It is what it's always been. The greatest goddamned country in the world.

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>>696359207
>Kennedy was the last respectable democrat we've had in the US
u wot m8

>>696358372
All praise to God King Trump

>>696360784

then this independent says FUCK YOU when it comes to voting for your shill. get fucked.

>>696360871
Exbernie fag here. You bet your ass I'll be voting trump before I'd ever consider hiltard.

The fact that every Arab nation, the RNC and RNC hate him is reason enough to vote for him. He's a wrench in the gears of the system of corruption and he's on no one's payroll but his own.

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>>696361757
>The greatest goddamned country in the world.
holy shit im talking to a psych-ward escapé

>>696361829
Billary Clinton was as shite as his wife would be should she win.

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>>696361154
the DNC controls a great deal of the exposure and perception of their candidates, as well as which DNC sympathizers back which candidate

>>696361621

source? the DNC is known to be crooked as fuck on its own, they dont need help to make hillary look worse, she does that on her own.

>>696361154

Bullshit. They literally didn't allow 3 million independents to vote in new york. The emails show clear bias and coordination with the main stream media.

>>696361854

The fuck? I'm not voting for her either man.

>>696360784
You mean like the general election that's coming in November?
Idiot.

>>696361829
>respectable
>a Clinton

pick one you deluded faggot

>>696361829
Is this bait?

>>696361571
He already broke one pledge that he made not to endorse Hillary until the contested convention was over with. Why not break another?

>>696361621
That's fucking cute kid its a real shame that rumors of her doing that shit have been around long before she announced she would be running

>>696358372
I genuinely feel sorry for Bernie supporters, even though I disagree with a lot of what they say.

>>696358760
/thread

>>696361964
>the DNC controls a great deal of the exposure and perception of their candidates
Not really. The media controls that, and the DNC has very little control over the media. I've seen plenty of media outlets that were overtly supporting Sanders in the primary.

>>696361621
This is total bullshit, but even if it were even partially true, there is a shit-ton of damning evidence against Hillary and the DNC.

DNC controlling the narrative with time released stories.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/12450

DNC conspiring to create false Trump information and release with Reuters.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102

DNC Hillary supporters infiltrated Sanders campaign.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4776

DNC discussing their relationship with NBC/MSNBC/CNN and how to get better treatment.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13762

Super PAC paying young voters to push back online Sanders supporters. Paid shills.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/8351

DNC discussing Hillary’s policies as unfeasible.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/519

$200k for a private dinner with Hillary.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/17287

Offering to send interns out to fake a protest against the RNC.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/13366

Faking outrage and pasting in a video later.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7102

A mole working inside of the Sanders campaign.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/7793

Bringing up Sanders religion to scare the southern voters.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11508

Politico writer sending his stories to the DNC before he sends them to his editor.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/10808

DNC feeding CNN the questions they want to be asked in interviews.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/4077

This list barely scratches the surface of what has been released so far. WikiLeaks said they will be releasing a bunch more stuff between now and election day.

This isn't looking good for the democrats.

>>696361910

read the wikileak. if you don't think bernie was told straight up that he would be silenced with an endorsement, you're fooling yourself. dude has been fighting shills like her for 40 years, he's better at playing and knowing the game than anyone and still keeps playing it to progress. one of the few decent people in our government. before you bail on him, realize why that endorsement came when it did. he had serious heat put on him. it's no coincidence it happened right before the leak hit, they pushed it hard b/c they knew it was coming and couldn't contain it.

>>696362074

Get some reading comprehension asshat. Yes exactly like that actually. Why not do that with the primaries as well? I'll tell you why, because the parties like to rig things in their favor.

>>696362028
See >>696360575

I don't even want the Bernmeister to win, but Jesus Christ it makes me angry to watch how the dems have gone about this. Bernie v Trump is what I would have hoped for, because at least then we have 2 people whom the population wants.

>>696362028

you're the one talking about 'democracy' and posting pro-shill memes.

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>>696361913
If you think your country is better than America then you're fucking lying to yourself.

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>>696361910
>This
The Trump movement isn't about the man, Trump. Its about the collective being fed up our own federal government.

>>696358372
>the cucks got cucked by a cuck

>>696361946
>>696362093
>>696362098
The shills are out in full force today.

>>696358372
I didn't believe in democracy before I supported Bernie and I still don't.

To me, the RNC very much showed the same favoritism, it's the media that really fucked over the democratic party.

Not to mention, above all else, the biggest dick fucking democracy Hillary Clinton for not stepping down even while she knows she's not her parties best foot moving forward.

I almost hope she loses so we can watch her downfall. It would be a cool breeze in the fire of our current society.

>>696362186
thanks my nigger, i need sympathy right about fuckign now

>>696362241
>hurr: It's on the internet, so it must be true

>>696361706
Even ignoring the fact that the congressional deadlock created by Tump would be better than the shit that Hillary will actually pass, it isn't about who becomes president. It is about sending a message. Democracy or die. We have a voice. We should not stand for rigged elections. His entire movement was anti-establishment.

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>>696362335

THE IMAGES ARE ANTISHILL YOU MORON! How dense are you? I hate her ass too.

>>696361913

Looks like Canada thinks they have an opinion.

>>696362186

yeah all that making the billionaires pay their share so your taxes don't have to pick up the slack is pretty anti-american. keep letting the ultra-rich tell you what's good for ya, im sure it'll work out eventually.

>>696362475
>it's the media that really fucked over the democratic party.
hahahahahaha

>>696362251
I realize it was pretty much endorse Clinton or die for him. Those were his options. If he runs independent I'd still support him, but as long as he's backing anything Clinton related he's lost me.

>>696362007
There is no source. The new york times wrote a piece speculating that putin was behind the attack and trump is also involved. But theg have zero evidence because it is notoriously difficult to find out who attacked them.
The new york times threw their support behind clinton, and sultzbeurger or whatever recieved 100k from the clintons so big surprise he wants her in power.

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>>696362281
>Guys wait... guys... guys listen... guys...
>Why don't we... guys listen...
>Why don't we... guys LISTEN...
>Why don't we have TWO ELECTIONS!

>>696362637
wow nice meme XD

>>696362456
>shills

I don't think you know what this means

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>>696362430
its a man eat man world out there

>>696361946
If by "shit", you mean "8 years of unarguable prosperity" then sure

worst thing that happened is dude got a blowjob and lied about it.

At least he's not a fucking billionaire bully with no governing experience, no foreign policy experience, multiple divorces, and multiple bankruptcies...who American mainly knows as a reality TV star.........

it's that time again, when half the country tries its best to make things worse by electing a fucing assclown.

>>696362637

Literally no argument whatsoever. All I'm saying is let independents vote in the primaries. Why is that radical?

>>696362349
The us only best in having idiots who believe in god, faggots behind bars, and having more guns than people. We are first in almost nothing helpful. As a proud american, I don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

>>696358372
I do feel shitty. I can see why people murder, I get it now.

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>>696361706
>What the fuck is he supposed to do?
Well, I hate Ted Cruz, but he still refuses to back Trump, just like Bernie could have refused to back Hil-dawg
>Personally I'm not voting for either of these assholes
OH WEW LADDIE, YOU SHOWED THEM!
So you're leaving your choice in November up to literally everyone else? Thats a plan for a better America.
>Hillary will put his head on a spike if he doesn't fall in line. He lit the torch of the progressive movement but now it's time for him to pass it on.
Some revolutionary, bowing out at the first sign of risk. Pass it on tow who, exactly? He already sold it out to Hillary for A FUCKING BOOK DEAL

Hiillary the Candidate Supreme:
1. Usurps power in Husband's admin, efforts fail Healthcare taken care of by Obama.
2. Wins NY Senate seat because NY has no residency requirements; and than guilani self-destruct.
3. Rides pro-Iraq war coattails to D leadership, then awkwardly walks back support after Iran vote revolt.
4. Loses to inexperienced one-term senator, and shows lack of procedural knowledge in Caucus wipe-out.
5. Embarrassed by recent party member, Sanders, while being exposed as corporate puppet.

>>696358372
I just don't understand how it's gotten this bad without any accountability. People should've woken up and been up in arms during the demo caucus in Wyoming. Bernie was 56 and Hillary was 44 and what 11/12 seats went to Hillary? How the fuck is the system not rigged? And yet here we all are...sitting behind a computer watching some of the worst of a freeman come while we do nothing. It's at the point know where I think they are willingly and knowingly showing us that they can do whatever the fuck they want without any repercussions because we aren't gonna gather en mass and walk into congress or the senate and hold those corrupted mother fuckers accountable. I can't wait to see what's gonna happen if she still gets elected in to office, but at the same time I won't be surprised if nothing does. Anyone else just wanna leave this shithole country, join the Kurds, and fuck up some daesh with pig blood bullets?

>>696362366

how pathetic is one's life when you turn to donald trump to be your icon and savior. he's one of the biggest faggots to ever faggot.

>>696362349
Define "better"

Cause Trump is making the US look pretty fucking stupid, and considering the Bush years that's saying something.

>>696358372
It used to be that young leftists would harp on how evil and ruthless the republican leadership was while painting the democrat leadership as ethical and looking out for the little guy

glad to see so many of them crashing back into reality...but it shouldn't have taken an e-mail dump for them to realize it given how smart they claim to be

>>696358372
No! Blah blah blah...the Russiansame conspired with the Trump camp...but we still have the high ground.even if we loose the election...we still have not given up what we stand for. Bush is still the worst president ever.

Bernie supporters are LASHING OUT at Hillary, witness their fury if you can handle it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuEy22_8-do

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>>696362756
>bully

>>696362756
>gave away nuclear secrets
>repealed legislation that wouldve prevented the 07 crash
>scandal
>almost impeached
>unarguable prosperity that wouldve happened no matter who was in thanks to the dot com bubble

>>696358795
This is an unprecedented election.

>>696362883
>>696362942
(Yes, her track records against nobodies bodes well for her ability to deal with Putin, Ji, and Merkel.)

Hillary the Roaring Sect of State.:
Honduras: Supports coup of thirteen families, causes refugee crisis at American border.
Syria: Want overthrow of Asad, the only one fighting 'JV team' ISIS.
Asia Pivot: Failed, China now has bases in S China Sea.
India: Hillary's 'Get Modi Policy' using NGOs fails, Modi wins big and addresses US Congress.
England: Snubbed by Hillary
Libya: ill advised overthrow of conciliatory dictator, incompetently run and leads to Terrorist state.
China: Husband gave MFN status without asking for anything in return, half billion trade deficit.
Ukraine: Again Hillary uses NGOs to overthrow elected government, leads to Russian reprisals.
Iran: Wanted war, American people rebelled and O forced her out.
Hillary has no successes as Sect of State and truthfully Obama has relied on Kerry to undo her mistakes. Democrats who forced her on Obama did a disservice to his administration.

The better argument might be Clinton supports and is supported by Crony Capitalists, Monopolists, MNCs, and Institutional Government Unions; while Donald is supported by Main St businesses, and workers. He backed the minimum wage increases, as much as the media said otherwise. Foolish trade agreements and the immigration free for all have cause more harm to the American worker's standard of living standard than all Democrat programs could ever repair. Even the NYT admitted Blacks have lost eight percent of their wages to low cost immigrants. Maybe Trump's so dumb he's a Republican leading his party left, while Left Voters are so dumb Hillary is taking them rightwards. This election is more entertaining than the NFL could ever hope to be.

>>696362809
It's stupid and pointless. The point of a primary election is for a party to pick its candidate to send to the general election. If everyone gets a vote in every party's primary then it's like having multiple general elections, which is completely pointless.

>>696362889
>i don't have a logical retort, call him a faggot

>>696362430
top kuck

>>696358372
>>Implying the RNC didn't do everything they could think of to stop trumps success and were just too inept to actually manage it

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>>696362349
>>696362537
Im american with British roots, im literally the proto-american

>>696358372
I'm 80% sure the RNC did the same bullshit by trying to support Jeb, and then Cruz, until submitting to Trump. The Russian hackers would probably find the same shit if they leaked RNC emails.

>>696362615

yeah, it's the main thing i guess i don't get. he's a bit of an idealist when it comes to wanting to rid the democrats of corruption, but it's just so rotten to the core that it will take way longer than he has. but he also wanted to accomplish more, and by being under the democrat banner, knew that if he won, he'd garner more support by representation.

>>696358372
“However [political parties] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”
― George Washington

Fuck the RNC and fuck the DNC. I still believe in democracy, but we need to reform the current voting process.

>>696362366
>the collective

Trump is a tool for russia, and his followers are nihilists.

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>>696362637
christ

>>696362889
It really is the equivalent of mass suicide.

Just totally give up and elect the first person who's likely to do some crazy shit.

The problem with this logic is that both Dems and Republicans hate Trump and will not pass his crazy ideas into law.

President Trump wouldn't bring civilization to an end due to checks and balances, but he surely would make things worse at every opportunity.

The US would lose all respect Obama's managed to rebuild after the Iraq war debacle during Bush's tenure (Trump was against it, just so you know).

>>696362603
It is, the media completely sides with Hilary on everything. The email leaks were basically made up stories by the dems to the media, and the media just listened and sucked that dick.

If the media did it's job neither Trump nor Hilary would still be in the running.

>>696363275
It's true and I fucking love it. He's going to be the perfect president.

>>696362521
How the fuck else do you cite anything? Im not the same anon but youre fucking retarded. Why are you even here?

>>696362889
Good argument, really holds weight.
>Faggot alert.

>>696362241
The RNC did the exact same things. This is politics dumbass. Not really grand conspiracy material unless you're an Alex Jones follower.

It's not news, everyone does it.

>>696363275
and you're a Tool on /b/

>>696362867
fucking /thread

>>696363311
I agree that the for-profit media has let down the country. Still, it's only because there are so many stupid people who believe everything they're told that matches their current worldview.

>>696358372
>RNC at least upheld democratic principles and let donald win fair and square

implying anything was fair about his win, they were all forced to follow thru because no other candidate was strong enough to go up against hillary

>>696363096

which is exactly why the two party system is fucked. the only 2 'viable' options are corruption #1 and corruption #2. we have life-long career politicians, out of touch with reality, tossing around millions upon millions of dollars to slander the other side. that's all it is. who can diss the other side more? who makes better TV? that's who wins. that's the problem. you should be able to go in, vote for whoever you want. fuck parties. it makes zero sense in 2016 not to take the popular vote.

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>>696363306
>respect Obama's managed to rebuild

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>>696362867

You do realize he got a substantial role in crafting the democratic party platform right? He would not have gotten that if he didn't fall in line. He wanted some concessions from her and he got them because he's backing her. This is how the game is played. Yeah I'm not voting because both of the candidates suck balls. The fuck am I supposed to do about it? He's not backing out, he just has to fight behind the scenes now.

>>696362722
Seriously.

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>>696362887
because america is home of the cowards and land of the slaves

>>696362867
The thing about Sanders is he would rather Clinton get elected than Trump.

How can you possibly be a Bernie supporter and ignore the point that *TRUMP SHOULD NEVER BE PRESIDENT NO MATTER WHAT*

>>696362475
>I didn't believe in democracy before I supported Bernie and I still don't.
Commies gonna Commie just like Niggs gonna Nigg

First of all, we do not live in a democracy. We live in a republic. Educate yourself a little bit better. There is a difference between a democracy and a republic.

>>696363638
Why?

>>696358372
RNC couldn't keep a retard off the ticket, so it's up to voters to stop him.
>another success for democracy.

>>696363688
Unless you live in a swing state, your vote doesn't mean shit.

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>>696362823
America is the primary country of the planet. All eyes are constantly on us, we currently influence the world more than any other nation and have been doing it for a few hundred years. Eurofags and the rest of those foreigners know all about the US election and politics. Why? Because we're fucking important. No one gives a shit about other nations politics because they don't fucking matter. Moreover, an armed populace had always been a necessity for preventing tyranny. Also people could just get guns illegally in the lesser countries.

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>>696362970
>infowars
Go drink a bottle of bleach faggot

>>696363457
Well yeah, and if people didn't like food so much then Mcdonalds wouldn't have created a health epidemic. But there is usually two guilty sides to most colossal fuckups.

>>696363757
Good thing mine counts then huh cuck?

>>696358372
I can't wait for Hillary to walk Bernie out on a leash and have him lick her asshole on national television

>>696363709
The U.S officially a democratic republic. You're officially a retard

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>>696362430

>>696363538
I'll never understand why so many people blame "the two party system." The Democrats and Republicans simply follow the polls. They say what the majority of people say they want to hear. The parties' stated beliefs are constantly changing to appease the masses. Your beef isn't with "the two party system," it's with the morons who make up the majority of the voters in the country.

>>696363558
>being this deluded
Look, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I just don't think you appreciate what a back-stab this was to his supporters, and how much worse its made by non-voters.
Look, I never like Bernie, socialism is not the way of the future. It brings everyone down in an effort to boost the few.

But in either case, when you choose not to vote, you choose to tell Hilary that you're basically OK with everything she's done.

Trump will make America great again = Hitler did nothing wrong

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What's that? Hillary's a ahead in the polls.

Sorry trumpies, but your tears are tasting so good these days.

>>696363715
Would you hire Trump to fix your car?

Would you hire Trump to coach a football team?

He doesn't have the skills necessary to run a country.

Hillary surely isn't perfect, but she does have the skills necessary to be a President. You can get a pretty good idea what she'd be like by looking at Bill Clinton and Obama.

Trump, on the other hand, has worked in real estate and has been a reality TV star.

Even if you ignore all the racist, sexity, irrational things he's said, he'd never pass a regular job interview for President if one was given.

That Trump is a crazy choice for president should be a no-brainer.

Why do you think somebody who's alienated women, blacks, and hispanic would be able to gain enough votes to be elected?

Each election is a reminder of just how amazingly stupid a large percentage of the US is.

My own fucking family are Trump supporters, and I just shake my hand in sadness at the stupidity.

God, this is as common sense as it gets. Trump is the worst, as a person, as a business man, and god forbid, as a President.

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>>696363765
That's some deep rooted delusion right there. If you think the whole world has their eyes on the US you are right, buts its because they are another piece of the puzzle, not THE fucking puzzle piece.

If you don't pay attention to the rest of the world like you claim they do to us, then you are the retarded american that everyone talks about. Not that I'm going to wait on your reply to go ahead and assume you are.

>>696359951
>implying superdelegates causes no avalanche effect

without any knowledge of superdelegates Bernie would have won the popular vote fair and square

>>696358372
who cares about that shrill bernie?

>>696364391
>That Trump is a crazy choice for president should be a no-brainer.

why the fuck do you think people here love him?

>>696359885
ya the queen, fuck the police and fuck your accent.

>>696363765
We're the primary country because of what happen decades again.

The past couple generations are total shit, and China is going to replace the US as the top country sooner than later, because China doesn't let its people elect complete idiots (or anything else).

Nope.

Mostly because the RNC has more fucked up rules.

>>696364391
Yeah I would hire Trump to fix my car or to coach a football team he is a man right?

>>696360280
right now dis nigga, makes your candidates look autistic

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>>696362867

>Some revolutionary, bowing out at the first sign of risk.

x1000^cuck

>>696364399
For the record not all of us are like that. It's sad to think when I go out of the country I'm looked at like a fucking ignorant twat because I'm American because of shitheads like this

>>696364541
Stupidity. Willful ignorance.

Basically, the same stuff that makes religions persist.

>>696364478
This. The competition waspresented to everyone, on all channels as a 700 delegates for clinton to Bernies 200 when if you presented it as votes it was like 48 to 52.

That difference would have given bernie a huge lead in popular votes. A lot of people vote on who they believe will win.

>>696364391
>He doesn't have the skills necessary to run a country.

No person/president/politician can do every little minute task.

What sets the good ones apart however are the ones who know how to find and appoint highly qualified people to the positions to be in charge of those tasks.

That would be Trump. As a CEO he has to do this with his many businesses. Do you really believe he fixes the plumbing, configures the computers, programs the phone systems, etc in all of his businesses? If so, you're a fool.

Trump knows how to delegate these tasks. That is what a CEOs job is.

>>696364399
I don't pay attention to other countries because they don't fucking matter. Anyone who told you different was just trying to get into your pants. How's that Kool-Aid taste? You spilled a little on your shirt

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>>696364674

>>696364391
>the president holds so much power
Dude, you know what the president does right? It isnt like im voting for a congressman, it is the president. Merely a representative of the people, amd yes i want trump to be that representative. It isnt like he is going to be all alone up there making decisions, he will have advisors. You are making the presidential race out to be something bigger than it is. Now if trump was running for congressman in my district, fuck that.

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Wiki-leaks strikes again. I love how the Dems are already spinning it as Putin putting it out. BS. The system is rigged just like Bernie and Donald said. Debbie Wasserman Shultz was booed off the stage this morning at a breakfast she was giving, and she won't be gaveling in the DNC convention later today. It will be interesting to see how this effects the election.

>>696364378
Trump got a bump during the Republican Convention. I'm sure Clinton is getting one now for the Democratic Convention. Since Trump's bump only put him on par with Clinton, I don't see him ever taking the lead.

>>696364706
I wrote that and I claim to be a proud america, but holy shit some people's phrasing.

>>696364165

because of the billions of dollars that go into shutting down ANYONE other than the 2 parties? hurrdurr. dense much? notice how we hear the "lesser of two evils" thing every single election cycle? it's because we're fed the same fucking bullshit every time. any new voices, new people, fresh blood....they're all stifled by career politicians, media control, and private interest groups.

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>>696364378
>posts poll image
>no associated dates

>>696364674
id like to test that tshirt

This >>696358760
Was a Berniefag.
Don't believe in him now (at all) since he literally endorsed Hillary knowing full well he got scammed out of the nomination by her and her cohorts.
As far as I can see at this point, Bernie talked the talk, but doesn't actually walk the walk.
Very disappointed.
No democracy there at all in the Democratic Party (how ironic they call themselves "democrats").

Will be voting Trump.
At least he is not part of the establishment and at this point all I can hope for is sending a message to the establishment that we are sick and tired of being screwed by them.

Vote for Trump at this point or you are confirmed for a fool and a sheep.

>>696364755
This is why I usually vote for a governor for president over a congressman. I'd prefer to have someone with executive experience, over someone who is part of a glorified committee.

>>696364706
Leave. Save up your money and move. If you dont want to be American, go somewhere else.

>>696364895
do you have any salsa on debbie cuckerman shilltz getting booed?

If Bernie still endorses her then he's a bigger sell out than the Verizon guy that just switched to Sprint.

>>696364953
You didn't write that you faggot

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>>696364817

>>696364755
>That would be Trump. As a CEO he has to do this with his many businesses.
Oh lawd. You haven't looked into Trump's business history at all, have you?

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>>696364811
Only someone who thinks the US is the be all end all to the world would be proud of his ignorance to the other 200ish counties in the world.

You seem the type to be proud of many forms of your ignorance.

>>696364755
He sure did a good job delegating the task of speech writer, eh?

And I guess those bankruptcies were somehow good as well?

It sounds like your argument is that it doesn't matter if Trump isn't qualified to be President because he'll have advisors.

I'd rather have a president who isn't completely clueless on day 1.

I don't think Trump would destroy the world since there are checks and balances. However, he is guaranteed to make a bunch of rookie mistakes if elected President.

Also, my god, he's the worst. How can you let all the crazy shit he says slide?

Clinton may have lied, but at least she knows what she's doing.

Your options are

1. Typical democrat

2. Whatever the fuck Trump is, because it's not Republican.

I suppose if you're anti-Clinton, you're thinking Trump is the way to go, but a Trump win will destroy the Republican party.

>>696360723
They're shameless. DNC pulled the "Putin did it card". Really not much difference between the DNC and organized crime.

>>696364895
>It will be interesting to see how this effects the election.

It will have absolutely ZERO effect on the election.

The election is simply too far away, and the American public has a very short memory. This entire thing will be a distant memory come November.

>>696365154
>he went bankrupt 4x
>ZOMG

>>696359951
Remember Mitt Romney ask him about the popular vote and its importance

>>696365068
This. I'm fed up with Americans who do nothing but bitch about America. Get it line or get the fuck out.

>>696365071
It was reported on the news on TV. It has to be out there somewhere in print media.

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>>696365037
>100002% this

>>696365089
Ok, i did but w/e. I'm this >>696364399
not this >>696364706

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>>696365270
>>696365068

>>696361154
Money, exposure, advertising, etc. It's everything in US politics, you dumb fuck.

>>696358372
It's just faked by the russian, jeez you maericans are so easily fooled, how did you win the cold war?

>>696365160
>denies my claims without addressing them

You cannot refute that America is the most influential nation that is currently in existence.

>>696358372

Libs are turds.

>Libturds

>>696365212
>Clinton may have lied, but at least she knows what she's doing

She sure does. Lining her pockets with taxpayer money so she and Bill can live like royalty. Literally everything she does is for making herself rich.

Follow the money.......smell the corruption.

>>696365068
See that's the problem. I want to be a real fucking American like we were looked at like we were back in the day. We have become the laughing stock of the world because of it. The other fucking I had some Arab ask me why he don't have another revolution to show the world our people still have balls. Its assholes like that make being an American almost a shameful thing. Fuck you

>>696365077
Well, he just doesn't want Trump to ruin the country.

It's kind of a common sense thing. Why would Bernie prefer Trump over Clinton.

Any Sanders supporter who thinks Bernie shouldn't support Hillary is essentially supporting everything Bernie is against.

You can be idealistic all day long, but not voting for Clinton = 4 years of WTF from Trump. Nobody is going to be happy about that, including Republicans.

>>696365472
>faked by the russians
Uh huh. Sure thing hillary

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>>696359377
>You've got to appreciate how far he got with so little backing him and so much against him.

It speaks volumes.

I'm a Trump supporter, but I had high hopes Bernie would pull through.
>Not long ago I would have been Sanders supporter.

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>>696365287
> give me sauce
> go get it yourself

Fine, fuck you then.

>>696365555
lol...the exact same could be said about Trump

As if he care about anything but money.

>>696364994
>dense much?
Delusional much? Do you think that those "new voices" are somehow excluded from the general election? Anyone is free to vote for them. The majority of people simply do not agree with them and choose not to vote for them.

>>696365565
Wait... Assholes like what? I guess we'll never know>>696365555

>>696365218
I take all my political advice from /b/ tards. Thank you anon for that valuable info.

>>696365612
The fact that you could support Bernie, who is more liberal than Clinton, and then switch to Trump, is absolute insanity.

>>696365260
That's a start. Keep reading.

>>696365565
>wah i care what other people think about me so much
Fuck you lol. If you cared so much youd go get a rifle and do something, but youre are a bitch beta coward who would rather bitch until something changes. Get into politics, change the sustem, get into the media and write your stories, but nah bitching while working your shitty office job is what youre good at.

>>696365480
Even if that is true, which I wouldn't completely agree or disagree with. That's still not even 10% of the world's influence. You can't do anything with that.

To say that you only need to understand the US to understand the world is so obviously stupid it does not need addressing.

>>696365640
Not even close. CNN tried getting his employees to turn on him by asking them loaded questions, but that didn't work. They liked working for him.

Hillary is a crook, and a user. She used Bernie, she uses many others, just so she can get what she wants.

She fools the fools, and the sheeple all bow down to her.

>>696365260
Guess once you choose to be a Trump supporter, you have to set up a mental filter to make your brain ignore all the crazy shit he's done and said.

>>696365830
Kek. Let me guess you also think trump shouldve had a crystal ball and invested his money 20ish years ago.

>>696358372
Make Democracy Real Again.
Vote Libertarian.

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>>696365480

you must be home-schooled....in Alabama

>>696365962
>not realizing trump himself never went bankrupt

>>696365640
This. So many Trumpfags love to call Clinton a money-grubbing crook while completely ignoring Trump's crooked business history.

>>696365480
Influential at promoting hate, racism, and bigotry, yes.

In any other ways.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that's a good one.

>>696358372
I understand the mistrust of the DNC and Hillary but you have to think of it from their perspective. Hillary has been planning to be President for a very long time and I'm sure that the DNC promised her their support prior for the 2008 election. But then out of fucking nowhere comes Obama and the chance to elect the first black President. So the DNC cut a deal with Hillary that if she went quietly and supported Obama, they would throw their full support behind her in 2016 and would do anything to get her elected, including sabotaging any other candidate. She stepped aside and took one for the team in 08' and she's just collecting what the DNC owes her now.

>>696366076
[citation needed]

>>696365948
There are endless anecdotes of Trump being a dick.

I don't give a shit of Hillary is a crook. I'd rather have fucking Bush Jr. back in office than Trump's wretched ass.

I don't like Clinton, but I don't give a fuck if she had a insecure email server. She isn't Donald Trump. You mean, the guy who knows about Real Estate and reality TV.

Because, in a President, you really want real estate and reality TV experience.

It's like, do you want a normal democrat or somebody crazy an unpredictable.

Trump is no more a Republican than Hillary is. In fact he's actually supported her in the past.

>>696364327
= you are damn right

>>696365778
>The fact that you could support Bernie,
Could have, before Obama.
>and then switch to Trump, is absolute insanity.
I've been on the Trump train since he announced.

You gotta remember, for a lot of us, this isn't our first or even second election.
We've seen this shit before.

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>>696366267
You're joking right?

>>696366209
yeah, again, no democracy.

>>696358372
This just shows that the Democrats are just as fucked up if not more so than the Republicans. The Republicans have one big glaring problem, the dems have a systematic one. The people tried to gut the republcan establishment with the team party movement. Maybe dems should gut the Democrat party with "feel the bern" movement.

>>696365867
Im tired of this so I'll let you know I was severely exaggerating my patriotism just to piss you off. No one is this stupid. I do believe that America is the most influential country in the world, we invented most of the important shit we have today. Cars, the internet, you name it. It's not just inventions, our government was unique back in the day and set a lot of precedents.. Yadda yadda, it's alot more than 10%. Safe to say the world would be unrecognizable if America had never existed. I do think other countries may surpass us in minor aspects of sensibility, but they're inherently less significant and tend to have lower pooulation, which makes democracy easier. This will be my last response

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>>696358372
>implying that the RNC hasn't done the exact same things - they just run more secure email servers.

>>696365729
I was referring to >>696365068
And >>696363765
...and >>696365835
It honestly doesn't matter what I do, but understand this. My job brings me face to face with people around the world. I help these people to make their lives easier and to educate them. In doing so we learn who we are. I do good for the rich and the poor without a rifle or writing something for the media or some other tool you think would actually have an impact on how the world looks at us as a country. Words don't mean shit anymore you fuck. I try to redeem our image everyday because people like tarnish it. I'd rather not look like a shitty ignorant person to the rest of the world based on the words and actions of the helplessly blinded and jaded people such as yourself.

>>696366361
>We've seen this shit before
Don't disillusion the children, they have to return to school in the fall.

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>>696365999

Trips demand it!

>>696366621
so much this.


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>>696366570
It does look like that sometimes im not gonna lie..however the republican party is one extra Y chromosome extra tier retarded...id probably kill myself if i was a cuckservative

>>696366361
Nobody has seen this shit before.

Trump is destroying the Republican brand, by saying all the stuff that's been implied over the years to trick Southerners into voting Republican (The Southern Strategy).

How do you get past all the horrible things said about Trump. It's it a dislike for Hillary rather than approval of Trump?

Surely you don't think he's actually going to make Mexico build a multi-billon dollar wall.

He's just a blowhard. If elected, he won't have support from the Republicans or Democrats.

And since he has zero governing or foreign policy experience, he's destined to make rookie mistake after rookie mistake.

The biggest fear is what he might do with the military. Not like he's ever done anything remotely similar.

>>696366076
>imply running for president is making him more than the $9 Billion he already has

>>696365993
Trump University, Trump Airlines, Trump Mortgage, Trump Vodka, Trump Steaks, ...

And no, it doesn't take a crystal ball to realize that investment in an index fund will result in a modest return. Trump's failure to beat that return after multiple attempts over the course of decades shows just how incredibly shitty he is at running a business.

>>696366570
>Maybe dems should gut the Democrat party with "feel the bern" movement
They tried that but the DNC political machine won.

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>>696366631
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

>>696366954
Same could be said for the Clintons. As a former president, Bill is set for life.

>>696366605
I'll only respond to giggly at poolution.

On places like /b/, extremists and trolls are unrecognizable because they both exist. I call them both faggots equally.

>>696366814
Brilliant album that is btw anon

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>>696366631
>peace corp volunteer actually thinks he is an ambassador
Dude why worry about what we do here, your actions alone should influence people to how Americans are. But no just because Americans back home make shitty decisions and make others laugh at you, you want everybody to subscribe to your thought process. Fuck what others think, you know who you are right? Fuck em and do your job cry baby

>>696366961
^^ voice of reason in a sea of autism

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>>696361621
Holy Fuck Shillary, you are TOOOOOO desperate now!
1. >DNC leak is being tied back to the Trump campaign.
Lol
It was Wikileaks, you moron.
They have 20,000 DNC emails.
Do you even know who Wikileaks really is?
Do you even Julian Assange?
Do you even Kristinn Hrfnsson?

Pretty obvious where this came from to anybody with half a brain and international consciousness.

Fyi, Trump doesn't have the money nor the infrastructure, nor the inside undercover operatives inside and close to the government to obtain 1 frickin text message, let alone tens of thousands of emails.

You are so fucking stupid that you shouldn't even be allowed to be on the internet, kid.

>>696366621
I bet they have been hacked 10 times over...I bet they all have. Their laundry is probably just as dirty....but it just hasn't been leaked. This should not be a surprise to anyone....making a big deal about this just makes the rift bigger.

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>>696366961
>Cites 5 Failures
>521 other successful ventures
>$9 Billion reasons to call you a cuck
>Made cuck a mainstream insult

ooook, friend

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Bernie is now saying that you must vote for Hillary because Trump as president poses a threat for America.

I know a lot of you hate Bernie because he is a socialist/communist, but can you name me some concrete economic policies that he wants to implement that you think are extra bad?

>>696367121
I'm a hardworking American that is always willing to lend a helping hand and not ask for anything in return. Why is wrong to ask everyone in this country do the same? That's literally asking everyone to be decent human being so please tell me what's wrong with that.

>>696367278
I get it. The only way to consider Trump a viable President is to ignore anything he does wrong.

Well, good luck with that.

>>696366961
>so yes i think trump shouldve had a crystal ball and he shouldve played it safe
I dont say this word, but damn you sound like a cuck. You think trump shouldve just played it safe and never tried anything new

>>696367071
>implying the Clintons are worth even 10% of what Trump nets in the private sector

>>696367346
Trump as President absolutely poses a threat to American.

That a sizable portion of the country doesn't see this is perpetually disturbing, yet not surprising considering the continued presence of religion.

Welcome to the Idiocracy.

>>696367278
>$9 Billion
More like $4B. Had he invested in an index fund, it would be $13B.

>successful ventures
kek

>>696362098
no but this is lollol

>>696361621
You just keep listening to what they feed you kid.

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>>696367396
sooooooo if you got a 98.6% on an exam, that's a failure?

>>696367631
it's okay, Trumpenises don't take kindly to things like "facts".

>>696367376
>my morals and philosophy are the only ideologies people should ascribe to
And they say leftists arent authoritarians. Idk man, maybe that people are free to believe what they want? What is wrong in me asking that people in this country quit believing in democratic principles?

>>696367600
"My IQ is less than the average golf score" the post

>>696367600

salty salty salty.

Trump iz on wrong side of history!!! Vote for Bernie! No, Hillary! No, Stein! No, Johnson! No Hillary! No Bernie! No Hillary!

You assholes can't even decide who you believe in or what.

Kek. Top kek.

>>696367691
>>696367631

>implying $4 Billion isn't notable
>>696367631
to be fair, its somewhat subjective ans part of it depends on valuation of his brand itself

>>696367223
Wrong.

Think logically for one moment. Put your feelz aside, and realize these simple facts.

1. Both Trump and Hillary are corrupt liars
2. Both Trump and Hillary have their personal financial gains ahead of the public's interests.
3. These are the only 2 candidates on the ballot that could actually win.
4. ONE of these 2 is bought and paid for by Vladimir Putin, and guess what, it's NOT HILLARY.

So do you want to vote for the candidate that has Russia's interests over America's?

That's the only real difference in this election.

>>696367960
"facts" 1, 2, and 4 aren't

>>696367960
>ONE of these 2 is bought and paid for by Vladimir Putin
>[citation needed]

>>696365617
No, no, Fuck You . You lazy Fuck

>>696367681
Depends on which questions you get wrong and why.

Trump's viability as President should be determined based on more than percentage of businesses *NOT* to go bankrupt.

Seriously, if you were watching The Apprentice a few years back and somebody said, "We should elect Trump as President", would you seriously think he'd be the best choice?

He's a bully. I don't want a fucking bully running my country. If you do, that a flaw in your personality.

>>696367960
This right here.

Fucking

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>>696367445
>You think trump shouldve just played it safe and never tried anything new
I didn't say that. I replied to the idiots praising his business "success." He can try and fail all he wants. My only issue is when people point to his wealth as a sign that he would make a good president while ignoring the massive failures throughout his career.

>>696367736
Dude being a good person isn't a moral or a philosophy. It's our fucking duty as a species.

>>696367631
Real easy to say that in hindsight. If he'd have done that and the market would've been bad more years than it was good, then you Monday morning quarterbacks would be, "He should've used that money to start a company and have been worth XX billion instead of just X."

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>>696367600
Wasn't really what I was asking about, but anyway. As a Finn, I don't see how he poses a threat. His trade policy is economically illiterate though, but I'm sure that'll change quickly if he'd get elected. It's not like he would acually do much, he'd have plenty of people doing the works.

And even though I'm secular, I'm not a fan of putting down religion as a whole.

>>696367681
If trump ever took an exam he wouldn't of even hired the person who hired the person to take the exam for him. He would then pass off the job of hiring the person to refute the claims that his hired employee that he didn't hire made a 2% mistake on the exam.

Trump would be completely missing from the entire equation except for his name in gold on the name line...

That's a failure in my book.

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>>696367691
lol
welcome to 4chan, newfag
the saying around here has always been:
"Give them facts. Libtards hate facts."

It's hysterical that you now pawn off a 4chan mantra around here for more than a decade and attempt to pawn it off as meaning the opposite.

Run along, child.
Summer will be over soon.
You will have nothing for show and tell come Fall, except your tears and stale stench of mom's basement.

>>696368185
So hillary has had no massive failures in her career as a lawyer or politician?

>>696367396
How is this any less relevant to Hillary Clinton?

>>696367960
>>696368180
same fag

>>696358760
>this

>>696368193
Says who? Who defines what is good? Dude is it you? Do you define the moralistic code for humans?

>>696367960
Did you fall on your head, anon. I hope you get better.

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>>696367346

I don't hate him even though I'm leery of his socialism, I think he was still a far superior candidate to Hillary.

The issue I had with Bernie was that his estimates of how much all of his social policies would cost and how much money he could reasonably expect to raise through higher taxes on the rich were way off. One estimate I saw was that his policies would cost an additional 19 trillion dollars over 10 years in addition to our current spending and our current 20 trillion dollars in national debt. That would have us staring down 50 to 60 trillion dollars of National debt in 10 years and there's simply no way the economy could carry that kind of burden when interest payments on our debt already account for more of our budget than infrastructure and education combined.

I doubt he would have gotten all that shit passed; but it shows you that the guy doesn't grasp economics or understand that we can't indefinitely spend money that we don't have.

I am legitimately convinced that the whole left versus right stuff is just an illusion of free will. Everything we does fuels this election in some way when you get to the nitty gritty and pin point where the money cycles.

I wonder if it's more so like StarWars or more so like picking between two doors that lead to the same room.

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>>696367691
are u retarded?
this >>696368278

>>696366923

trump is destroying the republican brand? then why did the chair of the DNC just resign? check and mate fuckboi

>>696368235
Well, I am a fan of putting down religion, because it's irrational.

If people want to believe some crazy shit based on nothing but "hoping it's true" and "feelings", then so be it.

But religion has no place in the world if people think it's real.

Religion is just a little more irrational than thinking Donald Trump is our best option for US President.

>>696359377
Dumbass college kids.

>>696365037

>$0.05 has been deposited in your account.

>>696367921
>implying $4 Billion isn't notable
When you have over a billion to start with, no, increasing that by a measly 300% over the course of 28 years is not notable at all. Well, maybe notable in that it's an incredibly poor return.

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>>696368168
>He's a bully. I don't want a fucking bully running my country. If you do, that a flaw in your personality
yeah, take the spineless jew or the woman instead

people's fucking thought processes man, jesus

>>696358372
Haha. After seeing how the RNC and media treated Ron Paul a few years back, do you honestly think they don't do the same things? Donald was just amazingly able to overcome the bias.

>>696368278
not really sure what you're talking about...but I've been on 4chan for like 8 years and one thing I know for sure..it's random... there aren't rules, and if you think there are then you're a fucking faggot.

>>696368534
>Someone who probably didn't go to school calling people who go to school dumbasses

Welcome to the US, where being educated is tantamount of being a pretentious cunt.

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>>696367600
>Trump as President absolutely poses a threat to American.
Says this but doesn't actually present any and calls everyone else an idiot. Fuck off cunt.

>>696368180
shutup samefag make it more obvious why dont you

>>696368580
>measly 300%
Wut?

>>696368518
>"I have no reasoning skills and it gets me into trouble quite often, as I always seem to hold fucking stupid beliefs about everything, and I try to defend them without anything to back them up."

>>696368304
Because the bad stuff about Trump is way worse.

Like, mindlessly, obviously worse.

I'd prefer to see Bernie in office, but that was never going to happen. Shit, other than Ted Cruz, Trump is a pretty bad choice.

>>696366814
I think the parties are outdated. For Republicans...its the marriage to the religious right. If they drop that, alot of the social aspects would not be so contested. With Dems, for being a party of intellectuals and compassionates, they lose on the high ground fighting in the trenches. They lack the savagery that prevails in the real world. Or if they hold their own....turns out they are crooked as all hell.

>>696368281
E-mails, >No Problem
Benghazi, >No Problem
White Water, >No Problem
Vince Foster, >No Problem

>>696368702
>implying it isnt

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>>696368456
What the fuck are you talking about? :/

>>696368518
Religion also teaches us about the values which we hold most sacred in our respective cultures, and I don't think it's a good idea to forget that.

>>696368399
We define what's good. Do you really think helping the less fortunate or are willing to sacrifice for the need of your fellow brothers isn't gonna change the image of anyone or are you just trying to be the summer edgelord

>>696368813
>Because the bad stuff about Trump is way worse.
he hurts people's feelings, oh no

he's seriously the only candidate whose primary focus is establishing security for the country, both Hillary and Bernie wanted to bring refugees in. Why should I vote for somebody whose primary interest isn't of the AMERICAN CITIZENS?

>>696360871
you sy these things like there are not legitimate reasons to vote against trump. what about his feelings on dictators? what about Putin? what about the fact that normally he makes money through bankrupting companies?

>>696367960
>>696367960

funny how i never heard this theory until the DNC fucked up big time

>>696368233
If the stock market were to crash so hard that an investment in an index fund would do worse than a 300% return over 30 years, then we would have much more to worry about than who is running for president right now.

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>>696368749
It really was me, though :( I am same fag

>>696358372
Trump is Putin's tool. So just no.....

I'm with her.

>>696366976
Maybe the primaries...but there is alot of elections that need to be won. It's too late for the presidency, but take that frustration to the polls.

>>696368281
Not nearly as many as Trump

>>696366605

The internet is actually British.

>>696368605
>>696368168
Actually, yes. Its time to be the bullies an stop being bullied.

>>696368787
>over the course of 28 years
You missed a key part there, friendo.