You have 42 seconds to tell me why you don't own a firearm

Because I live in a 1st world country, and have no need for a firearm to defend myself.

>>696209503
This

>>696209503
Firearms are needed all around the world though. Name one place where there are no firearms and no victims.

>>696209642
Firearms are for warzones mate

I am a €urocuck

>>696209795
>recreation
>collection
>home defense
>personal defense

all examples common in today's modern society.

Because swedish

only our mudslimes and shitskins can get guns

>>696209928
Surely your country must allow you to have something

>>696210087
so you're saying gun control doesnt stop bad people from getting guns?

I live in a civil society and am not an amerifat gun nut

>>696210081
I said I had no need for a firearm to defend myself. Meaning I live in a civilized place where home and personal defense aren't really likely situations.

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Because California.

>>696209269
Faggot ass TLR-1 on it.
almost had a good setup.

No money

Cause I got caught with a 35-7 revolver before and can't own one "legally" again >_>

>>696209269
I live in the european cucknion

>>696209269
I have a mental health issue. Which I guess is a red flag and they think I'm going to shoot up a school.

First question, why 42 seconds?

And I do own a firearm. A FNS .40

>>696210350
Civil societies own guns though.
>amerifat
Guess how I know you can't make a decent argument?
Not every gun owner is an overweight redneck like the rest of the world claims. plenty of regular looking people in the US own and carry firearms.

>>696209269
1 more year + Canacuck

>>696210387
Exactly. The only reason a person should be able to own a gun is for hunting and target shooting on a range. You do not need handguns, assault rifles, auto shotguns, or smgs for any of that

>>696210621
explain please

>>696210081
defense from what?

if u need to defend, then u need to move somewhere else.

the only thing worth defending your home from is a damn coyote/fox, fire, flood, or tornado.

anything else and you're just a dumbass scared republican.

Because the "Assault Rifle 15" is a scary black weapon that can fire 1,000,000,000,000,000 clips per magazine every quarter of a second and each magazine holds 1,000,000,000,000 clips which each hold 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 armor-piercing, heat-seeking, kryptonite superbullets that are designed to kill 20 tanks at once and can destroy anything and kill people instantly just by looking at them.

I'm too poor and don't own anything of value

I'm English and dont live in London or any other city full of niggers.

>>696210994
He got caught with a prohibited weapon, got banned from owning weapons in future. Now has to get them through illegal channels. Explains itself dumbass

>>696211070
So you are saying people don't get robbed, mugged, or their home invaded. And people who want to prepare for this are paranoid/delusional?

Gun ownership is so indefensible that anyone in this thread trying to act like a gun nut is either an NRA shill or a troll

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>>696209269

>>696211350
Yup that pretty much sums it up. Outside murica you are more likely to be hit by lightning then you are to have your home invaded

>>696210454
you can still get guns...just nothing breath taking.

>>696210495
What do you suggest? The light works for me but is a piss off how easily it turns on in my range bag or back pack.

>>696210602
>get $99
>buy a Cobra Freedom .380
Least expensive pistol on the market. Hell, ou can get a used one for $50

>>696210621
story time

>>696210716
You are excused. Best of luck with your issues

>>696210813
12 more seconds than the typical 30 seconds given. 12 is a cool number and is divisible by 2, 3, and 4.
The FNS is a nice gun, but why did you go with a .40 over 9mm?

>>696210994

Got caught with a illegally loaded gun,went to jail and can't get caught with one again(strict gun laws) Chicago >_>

I wonder if all these people who own guns for "self- and home defense" actually believe they have the guts to kill another human

>>696211662
If they do it would most likely be somebody they know like a friend/family member/neigbour then a guy trying to rob the place

>>696211599
Murifat gun nut detected

Why are so many Jews gun-grabbers? Feinstein, Shumer, Bloomberg... it's a distinct pattern. That alone is reason to own guns and plenty of ammunition.

I own a .22 semi auto for target practice. a .357 revolver, a .44 revolver and an AR-15 clone I built. Shooting is fun.

The Second Amendment is not about squirrel hunting.

>>696211600
are you a nigger?

>>696211599

Honestly I just wanted a higher caliber.

After I took it to the shooting range I just fell in love with it. Though my dad really wished it was a 9mm.

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>>696209503
This tbqh fam. No need for a freedom dispenser unless you live in a fucking shithole.

>>696212451

Nope Latino

I have eight weapons already attached to my body, and none of them require ammo.

>>696209269
i own tons, also NFA stuff

>>696212354
No the second amendment is about keeping a well armed former colonial population armed with muskets so that if the british came back to reinvade time would not be wasted arming the population to fight back. The second amendment should only apply to the guns of the era it was written in. Kinda hard to shoot up a school if it takes you 30 seconds to load between shots

>>696212810
where from?
usually people i know that get caught with guns like that get deported

>>696210864
What do you plan on getting as your first? Ive heard its a bit of a pain in the ass to get licensing in canada

>>696210947
what makes you feel this as your opinion?

>>696211070
>defense from what?
Violent people who like to victimize innocent people. Have you not seen the news lately?

>if u need to defend, then u need to move somewhere else.
Name one community where there is zero risk of violent crime and I'll give you that one.

>the only thing worth defending your home from is a damn coyote/fox, fire, flood, or tornado.
Never heard of a home invasion have you?

>anything else and you're just a dumbass scared republican.
but Im educated and not a republican.

>>696211297
You dont need something of great value, just something that shoots. You can get a used single shot shotgun or a Cobra pistol for less than $100

>>696211518
Its simply a question. Not really bait. If you dont wish to answer, dont answer.

>>696211567
So where do you live where there is zero violent crime?

>>696211600
That fucked up. Were you a prohibited person prior to being caught with it?

>>696212300
neat argument

>>696212354
Beats me. If anything the Jews should be the ones who are the most pro gun after being forced into slavery and death camps during the Holocaust.

>>696211662
http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/man-fights-back-attempted-carjacking-on-citys-northwest-side
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/headlines/20160712-robber-with-ak-47-was-shot-by-waffle-house-customer-desoto-police-say.ece
http://krcgtv.com/news/local/woman-stops-would-be-robber-at-gunpoint
http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/local-news/167748794-story

I can keep this up all day. People shoot back when victimized. What kind of person thinks twice about the life of an attacker vs their life?

>>696213062
You know not all latinos jumped the boarder with mexico. Some of them are actually citizens shithead

>>696209269
I do own a firearm.

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>>696209642
South Korea. Only the military and SWAT force has them. Neither ever really has to use them to maintain peace and order.

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>Asians will conquer the world and are the master race:

1) They invented everything we use: rockets, paper, forks, guns, working vertical flight (unlike davinci), wheels, writing (which Greece copied from Mongoloid Mesopotamia) and manufacture everything today. Chong engineering splodes German bs to hell.

>2) The Chinese never abused their absolute power over the Philippines, willing tributary States (Vietnam, Korea, Tibet); all was peaceful until Euraberica began mettling with failed proxy wars.

3) The Japanese were beyond honorable in how they treated their conquered subjects, even released and paid POWs for their labor... until they friended Germany in ww2.

>4) These 3 Chongs never unnecessarily nor independently decided to ravage/exploit the shit out of a foreign land like the Dutch in Africa or Spain, Portugal n USA in America's.

5) in Africa, China has been building schools, hospitals, infrastructure while employing Africans instead of shoving in bibles, taking their food, diamonds, etc.

>6) During natural disaster they all work together to make sure everyone lives; there's no price gouging Jews or Rambo thieves.

7) their marriage + infidelity rates are far lower than Euraberica, where lifestyles cause middleage men to commit suicide and die poor.

>8) Their media isn't as depraved as ours, e.g. tosh.o's 'black dildo fight' where a young boy got raped and In his other videos ppl get killed.

9) they actually get shit done instead of working 1 half hour or 2 half hour a day like in Ameroupe.

>10) Highest IQs, lowest crime rate. Their lit doesn't glorify murder, suicide, crying over destiny, cheating or wallowing in sorrow - respectively, Shakespeare, oedipus, and western poetry)

11) Never invaded the middle east for false flags like 9/11 and nukes (occupation kills 100,000s of innocents+created enemies RN)

>12) No Abrahamic morality or western laws to stop their already-made progress in human biological engineering.

I'm not racist I'm just honest ok

>>696213062

I'm an American, so how could I ?
Just cause I'm Latino doesn't mean I'm an illegal dumbass

>>696213465
where are you originally from?

>>696209269
Felony.

because i would shoot my self instantly

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I don't own a firearm....


I own many.

>>696213231
>So where do you live where there is zero violent crime?

I live in this wonderful little place called canada and in canada 95% of gun crimes comitted are by shithead criminals trying to kill other shithead criminals with illegal guns from murica. Civilians die from gun crime often because said shithead criminals cant shoot for shit and end up killing somebody else with a stray bullet

>>696212622
As long as you enjoy it. 9, .40, .45 all do the same job. 9mm is just a bit cheaper to shoot and gives you more capacity, but .40 is a close follow up.
>FN
Enjoy you quality firearm sir. I just got myself an FNX-9.

>>696213011
where in the 2nd amendment does it mention muskets? The Supreme Court has ruled the the second amendment applies to all bearable arms in common use.

>>696212834
Whatcha got and what is your favorite and why?

>>696213397
Use as in shoot or intimidate?

>>696213729
Violent or non violent?

>>696213860
There are many ways to of yourself kid. Stop listening to My Chemical Romance and stop being sad.

>>696213972
This is the only true answer.

>>696210864
>>696209269
Planning on getting an xcr with a beowulf 50 mag (for 15 rounds of 5.56)

>>696210387
>>696210947


what miracle country do you live in that they have solved crime? not a single break and enter? violent assault leading to death? mentally ill person who wants to kill you for funsies?

>>696209269
i have all the time i want, thx to immunity cat,, cya

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>>696213972
>

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Eurocucks stay mad

>>696213715
Im guessing he was born in chicago? God you are so thick you must be a trump supporter

>>696209269
I don't need it.

I still live with my parents and they are mega anti-gun

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>>696214186
>Use as in shoot or intimidate?
both, or even to deter from criminal behavior.

i won one though

>>696209269
im an eu cuck

Cause i'm chuck norris

>>696214232
I live in civilized Northern Europe, where the chance of getting fucking murdered is no slim you actually don't need to prepare to shoot an attacker.

A real 1st world country

>>696214644
so*

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>>696211662
you have to be an absolute worthless survival instinct lacking ultra beta to let a man kill you when you have the means to kill him.

>>696214644

Guns are for more than self-defense tho. You can hunt animals for food, shoot in competitions, or just shoot for fun because it is fun as fuck

>>696214232
There is no such place. But there ARE places where that is extremely unlikely due to highly restricted access to guns and other weapons that can be used to kill en mass. These places are known as "civil societies" perhaps you should visit one and see for yourself

>>696209269

Because I'm not a burger and getting one here is 1) a bureaucratic pain in the ass and 2) super expensive.

When I move to the US I'm definitely getting a few rifles though.

>>696214758

Civil societies...like France? fuckin LOL those jihads have NO problems getting AK-47s smuggled across the boarder you retard

>>696210454
kaliforniysookaya?

>>696214749
lol

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>>696209269
Fucking 9mm mp5 junk. Try harder

>>696212826
and none of them are effective against multiple attackers, a single armed attacker, or a guy who goes to the gym, because you're a skinnyfat loser

>>696214756
I know, I just think this American idea that you need to have gun to survive is ridiculous

I dont se the point?

>SO YOU CAN DEFEND YOURSELF HURRR DURRRBURR

>>696214372
nah man completely the opposite haha
im latino myself. i was just curious what his nationality was because like i said earlier a lot of people ive met that get caught with guns are illegals and they get deported immediately after that. funny thing is they are they usually back in a couple months

>>696214186

I most certainly will enjoy my quality firearm, enjoy yours as well.

>>696214921

>Sig MPX
>MP5

nigga you just went full retard

>>696214644
Translation
>I'm a cuck whos government won't let him own a gun because they know I'm so incompetent that I'd probably hurt myself.

>>696209269
Because a depressed alcoholic has no business owning a gun, let alone any weapon.

>>696214180
Assuming that other "law abiding" Canadian normies don't get guns from the US.

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>>696209269

I own 3 firearms:

.308 for big game hunting
12/76 for bird hunting
And a semi-automatic Ruger 10/22 Takedown .22lr for niggers and arabs when that day comes.

>>696214892
But to from france itself. If you strip away all the shit that happens because of some muzzie doing a jihad and look at gun crime in a place like france i have no doubt that you will see a MUCH lower rate of gun crime and people being victimised by it.

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>>696214985
We need guns to
>protect ourselves from other (especially brown) Americans
>be ready to fight a horribly tyrannical government
>fight the British
>fight the French
>fight the Russians and the Chinese when they invade
A chicken in every pot, and a cap in every ass.

>>696209269
>You have 42 seconds to tell me why you don't own a firearm

I don't live in fear

>>696215136
Actually my government does allow me to own firearms

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>>696209269

Because doing so makes me statistically more likely to be injured by a firearm.

>>696215166

AR-15s are cheap as fuck right now, not saying the 10/22 is necessarily a horrible choice for nignogs but a $600 S&W Sport AR-15 is a much more powerful, longer range option

>>696215142
>A depressed alcoholic still doesn't have the right to defend his home, but other people do.

An alcoholic is more likely to die with cancer or get hit by a motorvehicle.

>>696209269
I have 6

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>>696214186


>The Supreme Court has ruled the the second amendment applies to all bearable arms in common use.

I am aware of this ruling. This was the reason for the overturned dc and chiraq pistol bans right?

How would a new assault weapons ban be constitutional considering that the ar 15 platform is now very 'common use'

>>696215373

And owning a pool increases your chances of drowning in your backyard, and don't even get me started on driving a car...

>>696215143
The ones who abide by canadian laws get their guns FROM CANADA! You cant just import guns willy nilly up here, that shit will land you in jail, get you a life time weapons ban and get all your guns confiscated and distroyed by police

>>696215166

I hope u know that you are what's wrong with America.
Just FYI.

>>696214758
like france and germany owait.....

>>696209269
britfag here. i do have a shotgun, pistol and rifle locked up at the club. when people here find out you shoot they look at you likeyoure a terrorist or something feelsbadman

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>>696215623

Keep getting shot and run over by jihadis, eurocuck scum

>>696214936
I served in the Army for 4 years so I could get free college after getting out; parents were poor as fuck and couldn't afford to send me anywhere. Granted I'm not in the shape I was in after BT, but I'm not scrawny and I'm confident I could disarm someone at close range. I never want to touch a gun again

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>>696214644
Do you mean one of the mudslim infested shitholes like sweden or germany?

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>>696209269
This is all I got.

Just a bit too young

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>>696215305
me either. I sleep easy knowing that the sound of shattering glass at 3 am won't be the last thing I hear.

>>696209269
I've been wanting to get a gun for recreational purposes, like going to a shooting range and what not, but I live in Mexifornia, is it even legal to get one here?

>>696215136
Kek

>>696216296
Depends on where. Big cities like LA prepare for a year-long waiting list and mag restrictions

>>696216296

Better hurry up, new shitty laws in CA are going into effect jan1 2017. Buy an AR-15 now while you still can

>>696214180
As a civilian, why not fight back? Aside from the fact you cant legally have a firearm loaded in your home. Whats to stop one of these criminals from kicking in your door?
>also still havent shown a place with zero violent crime

>>696214228
>xcr
will that be your first?

>>696214232
Never will any solution remove 100% of a certain crime. All that can be done is drop the numbers. Look at chicago after they got some pro-concealed carry laws. Violent crime rats dropped because criminals knew that they were now at more risk of being killed over their crimes. Of course not every criminal thinks rationally and that how we get stories of the good guy winning on the evening news.

>>696214490
>deter criminal behavior
This is what has caused a decline in home invasions, burglaries, robberies, and car jacking throughout the US. people are fed up, arming themselves, and some criminals are getting the message.

>>696214834
where are you now? What is the process there?

>>696214892
Its been shown that they obtained their weapons from the US from the ATF in order to attempt to catch these type of people. Basically the ATF broke the law in a failed sting attempt and caused the death of many but wont own up to it. But remember kids, you can trust youre good ol' government ;) they surely wont do you wrong

>>696214758
what is blackmarket trade?

>>696214921
>comparing an MPX to an MP5
do you has the dumb?

>>696214985
what makes you think that?

>>696215007
Shooting is fun, collections are nice, and if trouble comes then you can use of of these fun collectables to defend yourself. Its not that hard.

>>696215166
You should probably get something more powerful than a .22 for personal defense.

>>696215229
This guy gets it.

>>696215305
Neither do I. Whats your point?

>>696215373
Check the CDC website for the hundreds of things that are more likely to kill you than a firearm.

>>696209269
I sold all mine. Useless to have. If I shot a person for invading my house here in Cook county, I'd probably be thrown in jail by corrupt liberal government regardless of how nice my insurance is.

>>696215484
Are you telling me that if I had a loaded firearm in my home where I exclusively drink and hate myself I'd be more likely to get cancer or be hit by a car than I would be to blow my brains out?
I do not drink publicly. Having a gun would be extremely dangerous.

>>696215617
Doesn't matter, they can still own an illegal gun because they won't get caught unless they do something stupid. Just like with ballisongs, stillettos, and parachute knives.

>>696209503
Cuck

>>696216507
I live in San Jose
>>696216510
I don't really want anything like that, just a hand gun, or a small caliber rifle.

>>696209269

gaylord setup but i d rather you own a sluts setup than none

HK243STAR with ACOG sight

>>696209269
Jobless NEET otherwise I would

>>696215623
I own more guns than him.
what does that make me?

>>696215623
I own six guns. what am I?

>>696216625
Who cares if you blow your own brains out. Your life your choice.

>>696215557

Both pools and cars are highly regulated, (compared to many gun laws) and serve actual purposes other than harming things. Also, the overall per capita rate of harm between pools and cars is nowhere near that of firearms.

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>>696216562
No, I mean in Korea, they don't have those types of problems, so cops don't have to use firearms to deter people from committing those types of crimes. Not to say they don't still happen, but nowhere near on the scale of the U.S. or other countries.

>>696216796

10/22 for a .22 rifle or a Glock 17 or Glock 19 for a 9mm. You should really stick to 9mm for a first handgun, it's effective for self defense and still cheap to target practice with a lot

>>696215623
I killed five cops because someone who has the skin color as me was killed by a cop.
I AM WHATS WRONG WITH AMERICA.

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>>696217001
>>696217099

probably what's right with america

>>696215464
>>696216562

Maiming your enemy gets you further than killing. Their comrades will most likely attempt to get them out of the zone of fire, and if they succeed their injuries will require a lot of valuable time and resources to patch them.

Maiming > Killing

>>696209269
I'm just unstable enough that I would get shitfaced one night and lose to the depression and actually kill myself

>>696215556
I believe so. For that, AWB 2.0 would not hold up. Most county sheriffs around the country have written open letters to the white house about how they wouldn't enforce future federal gun laws that were threatened after Sandy Hook. Even several states passed nullification laws having to do with federal firearms laws. Just waiting for MI to pass one.

>>696215705
Youre welcome to visit the US and enjoy some of our guns and pro freedom laws...except for California and Massachusetts

What does it take to obtain said firearms in the Britain?

>>696216083
Its something at least. I just got into compound bow shooting as of lately but I dont have much interest in a crossbow

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>>696214180
from america. got proof kid?

>>696209269
only recently turned 18
I have no money either

I'm a felon

>>696217107
Maybe I do? The thread asks why I don't own a gun, and it's because it would be very easy for me to drunkenly decide to kill myself.

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I don't?
>I own eight

>>696217189
Yeah, that's what I was thinking about, a 9mm. I wish I lived back in Idaho, I could really own something.

>>696217377
not legally
you're much better off killing an assailant than maiming one and having them sue you

>>696211662
not going out on my knees like you want too.

>>696216562
>As a civilian, why not fight back? Aside from the fact you cant legally have a firearm loaded in your home. Whats to stop one of these criminals from kicking in your door?
>also still havent shown a place with zero violent crime

Fight back from what? The boggie man?! IF by some random chance somebody tries to break into my home, and thats a BIG fucking if, the chances of them having a gun are slim if not nil. IF somebody is going to do such a thing without a gun i am confident enough to defend myself without one. I'm not some shit scared pussy that needs to be armed to the tits in the rare event that something bad happens to me. Also there are no places where there is no violent crime you shit. There ARE places where violent crime against innocent civilians is exceedingly uncommon, aka civil societies

>>696217626

I am not going to shoot people unless there's a war or a greater conflict going on... Im not American

>>696216673
I know of a few people who had owned illegal weapons got narked or caught with them because of their own stupidity and now have criminal records because of it. 99.9% of the gun owning population in canada do so within the law because owning guns here is a privilage not a right. A privilage that can be taken away if you are dumb enough.

>>696217544
Why don't you stop spending money on booze and see a therapist thread would've been better.

>>696210495
What's wrong with the TLR-1? I have the HL version. Thing lights up stuff 100 yards away...

>>696216282
Do you sit by the window with your gun out all night waiting for bad guys to break through? I'm almost 30, I live on the first floor, aka ground level, aka technicly people could burst through my window. In those 28 yrs, guess how many has? None. Not even once. Is that really something I should be scared of?

>>696218300

Nice anecdotal evidence faggot. If I've never had a fire in my house, does that mean it's bad to have a fire extinguisher handy? Or if I've never had a flat tire, should I take the spare tire out of my trunk?

>>696218300
Not really. The VAST majority of home invaders are not looking to commit murder; they're looking for stuff to steal. Usually any sign that someone is home is an immediate deterrent for them, no lethal force necessary.

>>696218300
>It has never happened to me in the past, therefor it will never happen to me or anyone else in the future.


You're 30 and you can't grasp basic logically fallacies yet?

>>696218300
I think people get too defensive over this stuff. No you don't need to live in fear. I own a gun in case of an intruder. I don't hover over it or sleep with one eye open. I just don't see a reason to not be prepared. There is no reason NOT to own a gun if you're responsible, know how to use it and it's legal.

>>696216562
>where are you now? What is the process there?

Italy.

You need a license to buy the gun, a different license to be allowed to carry the gun anywhere (even if it's in a locked box), and you need a "valid reason" to own it.

Sport or hunting are a valid reason, but the process is just so convoluted that it's not worth it.

You have to register every single firearm that you own, and every batch of bullets that you buy or otherwise come in possession of (e.g. through inheritance).
The license don't even last forever and you need to renew them periodically.

Firearms are also super expensive because supply/demand. I live in a city of 1 million people and I saw like 3 gun shops.

>>696217473
If you want the statistics go find them yourself you lazy murifat. The people who are have inclenation to use guns for crime cannot get them legally in canada, there for need to turn to guns that are obtained through other means...aka smuggled from murica

>>696218300
>I've never been in a serious car accident. Not even once.
>lol I don't need to wear a seatbelt
>seatbelts are for paranoid faggots!

>>696217392
Unstable people and the mentally ill are not fit for society. Te mental health crisis in the 80s is the cause for much of today's modern crime.

Cause I'm a felon and the 7 year mark is about here so I can finally file to get my record expunged:')

>>696218619

I forgot: if you apply for the sporting permit, you have to get membership in an approved firing range and you can only carry guns that are allowed in that specific range.

I think you're also only allowed to carry them on the most direct route from your home to the range if I remember correctly.

>>696218910

I hope a judge rejects your application, felon scum

>>696218650
>brings up a point with no facts to back it up
>someone questions his facts
>tells that someone to go find them himself
you're fucking dumb.

Never seen a reason to own a gun. In my entire life I've had a single break-in attempt, and the second the guy saw me turn the kitchen light on he ran away. I think they're scared enough of seeing someone home, so again, I see no reason to waste money on a gun.

>>696219176

>actually experienced a home invasion
>too cucked to own a gun

you're pathetic

>>696219008
I cant be bothered to get them myself, given that i live in this country and have owned guns in the past, watch the news ect gives me more authority to speak on this then some fat ass neck beard living in mommys basement. Asking for proof about everything

>>696210081

People often forget that firearms are an investment. One of the only things you can purchase that will retain its value for decades are firearms. Even precious metals fluctuate wildly compared to the arms market.

I'm broke and I'm underage

>>696219003
Haha! Nope he won't ya cunt, cause it was a first time nonviolent offense:)

>>696219258
The home invasion showed me I don't need a gun, so why would I go and get one? Most people who try to rob are NOT looking to kill you, often times they're in deep poverty and are desperate to feed themselves or their family. I'm not a sociopath, so I'm not going to sit in front of my door waiting to put a bullet in someone who's trying to save themselves. Scare them away? Sure. Murder them in cold blood? I'll leave that to you sociopathic gunowners.

>>696211070

Apparently you've never encountered a bear in person.

I'm underage B&

>>696219524
Also, I think that "Stand Your Ground" laws need to be seriously revamped. If you shoot someone on your property and they're unarmed, your ass needs to go to prison. Lethal force is used far too often these days because the far-right scares impressionable rednecks into thinking everyone's out to get them

I have a couple guns. I like shooting them. If someone doesn't own one, that's more than cool. What is with you insecure fucking right wing Trump retards? Too fucking stupid to think anything FOX news dosen't tell you. Do us all a big favor and kys.

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>>696209269
I am Australian living in fucken Australia & I own three rifles with my eyes on more.

Amerikaaners have no excuse not to own at least one firearm.

I had to go through more paperwork and bullshit to get my first bolt action rifle than you guys in good states have to go through to get a machinegun and other NFA items.

>>696218595
So is your gun close to you and loaded at all times? Because if not, if I come through your window with a loaded gun and ready to murder you, what good is your gun?

>>696219942
/thread

>>696213011

Right, because all laws should only apply to the specific time period in which they were written. Fucking retard. Should we go back to only counting 3/5th's of niggers?

>>696209642
Bhutan

>>696220202
Just go back to keeping them as slaves.

>>696219935

>enter someone's home
>get shot

I don't see anything wrong with that.

If they're just on your property as in land, then it's different.
They might be there for a number of reasons, like their car broke down and their cellphone is dead so they're trying to reach someone, or so on.

>>696219694
You dont need a full auto assault rifle to defend against a bear numb nuts. A high caliber bolt action rifle (30.06 .308 ect) or a 12 guage would do just fine. But really thats just for the paranoid types. Bear spray works and so does just yelling at them and being more scary then they think they are. Bears are not killing machines, they only attack because they feel threatend or to protect their cubs

>>696220066
Yes it is. It's hot and ready to go all the time.

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>>696219942
>fucking right wing Trump retards
>FOX news
>kys
Well done! Quite a few memes you were able to squeeze in there

>>696214361
Prefer my gen 3 G19. I just like the grip style better

I do not want one

>>696220278
It doesn't differ tho, you can legally shoot them on your land too. While they're unarmed and posing no threat to you.
Atleast you know you're free(to get shot if you're seeking help after a car crash, nice going faggots.)

>>696220066
That is highly improbable. The Department of Justice tracks homicides that happen during home invasions, and since 2003, a total of 0 deaths have been recorded. A stranger will not bust through your window for the sole reason of killing you.

>>696209269
I live in the uk

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>>696220293
>full auto assault rifle

>>696220315
Do us a favor and test it on your skull

>>696209795
Sports cars are for race tracks, not roads m8.

>>696220202
Not all laws just the second amendment

no money

>>696209269
It's illegal where I live...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0


Very related

>>696220450
Texas fag

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But I do

>>696209269
Im from Germoney :'/

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>>696220583
>Not all laws just the second amendment
We know dumbass, we know

>>696220278
In the vast majority of home invasion cases (61%), the invader is unarmed and runs at any sign of someone being home. There is absolutely no reason to use lethal force on someone who is unarmed and prepared to leave. I don't know how anyone can think so little of a human life.

>>696209503
/thread

>>696220861
/thread

>>696220546
Well that would be a redundant test don't you think?

>>696220861
>Never seen a chimp-out

>>696213397
>MFW there's no mag....

>>696220671
I'm from denmark. Pretty fucking far off the mark there faggot :^)

>>696221024
Training?

>>696209269
bc im a retard and don't trust myself to not accidentally shoot someone or myself

>>696215373
"Ze mice to blame for our problems! 'Vis zer cheeze hoarding ways and sneaking around and subverting our ownerz' attention from feeding us on teim! Kill ze Mice, and ze master cat race shall flourish vonce more, mein brozers und sizters!"

>>696220942
Not at all

>>696209269
Don't need one

>>696221121
photo op

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>>696215031
Ill stop trolling you now

>>696217547
>CZ
Thats all you need my friend.

>>696217670
If they can break into you're home, they can do damage to you with whatever they used to break in. Just because they don't have a gun doesn't mean they're a threat.

What do you plan to do if there are multiple attackers? What if one of them is much larger or stronger than you are?

>>696219176
>uncle hears window break at about 2am one morning
>grabs his gun
>sees a guy trying to leave with his TV
>guy drops TV and charges him with a knife
Guess who is alive and who isnt. Why assume the experience of one is the way things will always be?

>>696219272
Yes and no. A used gun or gun out of production and still in demand will maintain value or increase in value. A used firearm wont be worth as much in monetary value compared to a new one.

The best value of all is what it can be used for though, and that beats money 9/10 times.

>>696219942
but im not a trump supporter. Where is it written in stone that pro-Trump = Pro Gun vice versa?

>>696219935
>rednecks
there you go with emotion again.

Why should one trust the intentions of a tresspasser. Clearly they can see someone is home since everyone hase a car in their driveway. So if you're entering an occupied home uninvited with malicious intent, whay should I assume you are not there to cause harm? Dont like getting shot? Dont break in to people's homes. Easy as that. Whats hard to understand? Why make the victim out to be the criminal?

>>696220066
Yes, at all times, just like I always wear my seat belt when I drive. just like how I always replace my smoke detector's batteries aver 3 months, just Like I always have a fire extinguisher on every floor in the house. I do not fear home invasion, collisions, or fires. Im a reasonable adult who knows bad things happen in the world and hopes and dreams wont save e from them so I prepare for them and live my life as normal.

>>696219272
Thats entirely due to constantly increasing retarded government regulation. If firearms were suddenly deregulated like any other simple machine (say a power drill for example) then they would lose value after a few years simply for not being the newest model and having some mechanical wear from use. Also the average prices of firearms would be 1/5 to 1/10 of what they are now.

>>696221066
So in Denmark you can just shoot people for being on your land?

>>696216729
cuckold
noun [ C ] UK /ˈkʌk.əʊld/ US /ˈkʌk.oʊld/ old-fashioned disapproving

a man whose wife deceives him by having a sexual relationship with another man

From the Cambridge dictionary

>>696221121
Not him but fuck no. You never train without a magazine because magazines are always there in a real situation, giving weight and resistance. If you were to get used to no magazine being there, it could get embarrassing quick.

>>696221308
cuck

>>696220293

That must be why people living in bear country put giant planks of wood covered in sharp nails over their doors and windows to keep bears out. Clearly you know nothing if you use the words "full auto" and "assault rifle" in the same sentence.

Nobody mentioned kinds of weapons, you only said there is no need to protect yourself from wildlife since the only thing that might try to get into my home is a coyote...

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>>696216562
I'll stop trolling you now

>>696220064
Fight the good fight m8.

>>696217547
Is that a GP100 6"? I have one, but with different grips

>>696221403
>Ironic Shitposting is still shitposting

>>696209269
No money

>>696220846

But you don't know that beforehand.
If he spots you and starts running, ok leave him be.

But what if he breaks through your living room window at night in the dark, you have no idea what's going on and you shoot him as soon as he enters the corridor to your bedroom?

How could you be expected to know that he was unarmed?

>>696220583
So what about the first amendment? or are you so unamerican that some civil rights don't matter?

>>696220846
>I don't know how anyone can think so little of a human life.
And for the other 39% of invaders that do show up with a weapon? Threatening the taking of ones life over material good...I dont know how anyone can think so little of human life.

>>696220293
How do dumbasses like you still believe that fully automatic guns are as easily aquired as other guns?

>>696221257
Many families own more than one car, so seeing a car in the driveway is not a sure sign that someone is home. Are you really paranoid enough to think a stranger is breaking into your home just to harm someone they've never met? They're in your house to steal your shit; they don't give a fuck about you and the DoJ's 0% homicide rate in home invasion cases proves that. People who break into homes are often extremely poor and trying to provide for themselves and their family while working some shitty minimum wage job; can you really murder a person like that and be okay with it? If so, you're probably the most unempathetic person I've ever talked to. Use a taser, a tranq gun, whatever, call the police and let them deal with it. No one has appointed you as the executioner.

>>696221358
If i bear wants to get into your house a peice of wood with some nails driven through it will not stop it. That shit is for the curious passers by. A bear that is hell bent on getting into something will. Period.

>>696221743
That's why a gun should not be the first weapon you use; lethal force is unnecessary in the vast majority of situations that can happen during a home invasion. I'd recommend using a taser or tranq gun

>>696221780
You guys make it sound like people are breaking in several times a week where you live

because I'm not insecure, even though I'm an ameritard

>>696221780
Whats the first amendement again? Free speach i think? That seems pretty clear cut to me. Not a lot of room for inturpritation there
>btw i am unmurican im a canadian

Expensive

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>>696210454
Guess ill see you in jail if you ever decide to carry anon

I don't own one because I don't have the $ to afford one T_T

>>696221780
>they dont care about human life
>why do i have to
Wow. Attempting to rationalize your disregard for life makes you seem even more sad. But in the case they do have a weapon, you assess the situation. Is it a knife? If so you can probably taze them or shoot them with a tranq gun and be done with it. Do they have a gun? Comply and call the police after they leave. Your physical possessions are not worth more than your life.

>>696222135
Do you know how hard it is to get tranquilizers?

>>696222488
Dude you can get guns for like super cheap from gun shows. Got a 9mm for $60 10 years ago, works perfect today

>>696222135

Yeah, someone should keep an entire array of weapons in his home just on the off chance that the guy breaking in is unarmed.

And what happens if you shoot him with the tranquilizer but before going down he has the reaction of taking out his own gun and shooting you in the face?

We're not in a video game, you do realize tranquilizers take time to have their effect right?

And tasers aren't reliable either. All it takes to stop one is a leather jacket.


How about you stay the fuck out of other people's homes instead? What's so damn hard about that?
>mfw /pol/ made me a stereotypical american

>>696209269
I live in a white neighborhood, which was ranked in the top 5 safest inside my state.

>>696222729
you bought a gun for $60? was it used in a crime or something or is it a shitty jennings or similar to that brand?

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>>696221984
>People who break into homes are often extremely poor and trying to provide for themselves and their family while working some shitty minimum wage job
I have no problem killing a bernie sanders voter if he breaks into my house

>>696209642
Only law enforcement carries guns, its illegal for citizens to own or have one

>>696222992
in japan

>>696209269
I don't need one. Never been a victim of crime and I don't know anybody who's been a victim of a crime which would have been prevented by owning a glock.

>>696222966
9mm in the same style as a m1911.

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>>696221984
>No one has appointed you as the executioner.
and no one appointed him to rob my house
>play stupid games, win stupid prizes

>>696222462

Yeah. That's freedom of speech back in 1791.
It doesn't apply to the internet, radio or television, because that came after and it wasn't taken into account when the amendment was first written.

See how stupid that sounds?

I still dont believe any of you would actually be able to kill someone, and instead would shit your fucking pants if put in such a situation.

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>>696222836
>

>>696223177
oh like a llama? can we see pictures?

>>696209642
Antarctica.

>>696209269
I have several firearms. Im not worried about being attacked or home invasion or rising against the government. I just like shooting. I like distance shooting and tactical shooting. Its just fun.

>>696222811
If they have a gun, you don't do anything. Period. I was talking about those non-lethal weapons in the event they're unarmed. Your physical possessions are not worth more than your life, and if you have a family, you bet your ass they'd tell you to back the fuck down before getting into a gun battle with someone in your house. You're right, this isn't a video game, and home invaders aren't looking to kill you, they're looking to steal from you. Armed with that knowledge, you don't approach them with a gun because then you're putting them in a situation where they're FORCED to shoot you.

>>696222135
Tranq gun? You mean tranquilizer? You actually beleive those work in the way they do in movies? Are you that dumb? And why are you even giving the benefit of the doubt to someone whose broken into another persons house?

>>696215305
I don't live in fear of my house burning down, but I still have smoke alarms and insurance.

>>696222598
>Do they have a gun? Comply and call the police after they leave

No, fuck you.
First off, you don't know he will stop at stealing. Even here in Italy, where violent crime is rare, there have been reported cases of thiefs literally beating elderly people to death FOR NO FUCKING REASON during a break in.
Secondly, it's my home and I'm gonna defend it.

If you step into it armed I'm shooting you in your worthless head multiple times.

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>be me
>Live in Wyoming
>More guns per person than anywhere in the US
>More guns than most country's military have
>Lowest gun crime rate in the US
>Lowest crime rate in the US
>Fewer shootings than most countries in the EU
>Wyoming is the best state in the US
>Wyoming is the best country in the world
>Suck my fat Wyoming cock faggot

>>696223488
They work just fine against someone who is unarmed. What are they going to do? You'll be able to detain them until the police arrives without an issue if you manage to hit them with tranquilizer.

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>>696223412
>>696223412
>home invaders aren't looking to kill you, they're looking to steal from you. Armed with that knowledge, you don't approach them with a gun because then you're putting them in a situation where they're FORCED to shoot you.
Tell that to the Petit family

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire,_Connecticut,_home_invasion_murders

So fuck off and be a victim.

>>696221257
>What do you plan to do if there are multiple attackers? What if one of them is much larger or stronger than you are?
I have in my home this thing i call the pwned bat. Its an aluminum baseball bat, i can use that if i need it, combine that with going into one of the narrow hallways in myhouse would restrict the movement of your imaginary multiple attackers so i would only have to face one at a time, after incapacitating the first, the others would have to fight ontop of their fallen comrad making my job of knocking the daylights out of them even easier. My strategy is something akin to what the spartans used at Thermopylae. Make them come at you through a confined space thus you can confront less of them at a time. Simple really and no handguns or assault weapons required, how bout that

Because im not in the US

>>696223671
I'm talking about in the United States, where there is, according to the Department of Justice, there is barely more than 0 homicides committed by home invaders every year.

>>696223770
That's a terrible situation, but it's certainly an isolated one.

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>>696223324
No pics, looks exactly like this one, and is a rock n rock island brand.

However this pic is of a 45, not a 9mm

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>>696213011
Let's play.

>>696223678
Doesnt wyoming have more cows then people living in it?

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>>696223854
yeah but then you're also in that isolated space, and if you're coming at them with a weapon you bet your ass you're going to get shot or stabbed

>>696222197
I have never been in a car wreck or been in a fire but still take precautionary measures

>>696221984
See for yourself
Google some terms like "armed home invader felon" or the like. cant post the link due to spam filter. many home invaders come armed. Why would they want to be armed when breaking into someones home? Then you wonder why home owners want to be armed yet question the home occupant and not the criminal.
.
Why are you sympathizing with the criminal?

If you dont want o be shot in my home, dont break into it. I dont fear a home invasion but i am prepared for it. Simple as that.

>>696222135
see above

>>696222462
Freedom of speech and freedom of press. With your ideology, internet and text communications would not be covered.

>>696222465
not always. Whats your budget?

>>696222598
You make it seem like I walk don the street and kill people. Why do you put trust in a criminal? All I'm saying is if you don't want to be potentially shot, dont break into my home. If you have the nerve to break into my occupied home (not hard to know if a home is occupied or not), why trust their intentions if they encounter the occupant? You cant win this buddy. Criminal apologists are the reason why crime thrives. They catch and release with minimal punishment creating a vision for the criminal in which they can do as they please with no legal action against them.

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>>696209269
it costs a lot of money

>>696209269
because of stupid laws

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>>696224062
>but it's certainly an isolated one.
holy fuck. i bet you apologize for slavery to every black person you meet too

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>>696224219
yes but what farmer only has one cow? anheroniggerplease?

>>696223232
You clearly missed my earlier post that this should ONLY apply to the second ammendment

>>696224416
nigger

>>696221984
>No one has appointed you as the executioner.
I did. Threaten my life in my own home, I will do what I must to defend myself.

Criminal sympathizer

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I need to get some variation of an AR15 before Shillary Killton gets in office and bans them.

>>696209503
If you lived in a first world country your government would trust you to own them

>>696224229
What's it chambered in buddy?
And don't tell me it's 223

>>696224534
So that explains why our 3rd world president obama keeps trying to take them away

>>696224416
nigger

>>696224279
I'm not a "criminal apologist," I just see all human life as sacred and I believe that murdering an unarmed person is a terrible act. I strongly believe that they should face prison time for breaking in, of course, that's why we have a justice system; but when gunowners decide they're going to be the ones delivering the justice, that's when things get messy.

>>696224483
Yeah, except in 61% of home invasion cases, your life is not threatened (DoJ stat). You just seem like you really want to know what it feels like to kill someone

>>696209269
Why 42 seconds tho?

>>696223671
Upvoted

>>696224661
dohoho

>>696224240
Disarming a man with a knife is simple and i was running on the assumption that my imaginary attackers did not have guns

>>696224062


>durr look at Europe they have no gunz and all is well
>>actually, there was this case when...
>IM TALKING ABOUT THE UNITED STATES

No you aren't.

You're just spouting this meme that ALL home invasions are just theft driven and the guy wants to just take your shit, while that's blatantly not true.


Besides, even if he did just want to take my shit, it takes me a full month of work to save 250€.

So if he steals something from me that is worth 1000€ he's effectively stolen 4 months of my life.
So he can go fuck himself.

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>>696224619
5.56/.223. just a gas piston AR, nothing special

>>696224534
1st world countries dont have problems with violent crime at the level the US does

>>696224159

Fucking /thread.

>>696223739
No they dont. If they did work the way you think they did wed here about police departments carrying trana guns along with their tazers. Thats why anesthesiology is an actual medical specialty, theres no such thing as a drug that can incapacitate anyone at any time. Seriously is no one else noticing this guy recommends you keep a tranq gun for home defense?

>>696224390
Perhaps this explains such a low crime rate in the state...cant exactly have groups of armed cows invading homes now can you?

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>>696222970
>I have no problem killing a bernie sanders voter if he breaks into my house
I have no problem kiling anybody that breaks in to my house.

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>>696222480
WOW NAZI NIGGER WE HAVE A FUCKING NAZI NIGGER HERE GET A REAL MODERN GUN FAGGOT

>>696217407
its not as bad as some people make out (british gun law) its 12 and over to own a shotgun and 18 over for others in terms of magasine and rounds theres no restriction shoot whatever you want so long as the range can handle it pistols are conceallable so have to have a long barrel and a "stock" and shotguns have a specific definition

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>>696224878
>awesome manly gun
>xbox 360
beta fag

>>696224878
Brand and have you thought about getting rid of that stock?

>>696225010
>Seriously is no one else noticing this guy recommends you keep a tranq gun for home defense?
We all noticed him. With his line of thinking he's worthless to reply to. Wither he's 10 years old, or a complete and utter retard. Don't bother

>>696224854
Actually, I never mentioned Europe a single time, and the statistics I've been referencing are strictly from the Department of Justice, which operates in the *United States* if you don't remember. Also, your shit is covered by insurance. Let's say an armed person breaks into your house with the intent of stealing a few things. You see him there and you reach for your gun, well now you've put him in a situation where he has no choice but to shoot you. US home invaders do not break in with the intent to murder, and using guns against them only escalates the situation unnecessarily. Get the fucker arrested, don't risk your life trying to save a $400 TV.

>>696225076
Its not fair to other states that happen to be dragged down by a large city or cities, just saying

I do have multiple firearms.
Texas fag here. Hunting and target shooting is fun.

>>696223854
Okay tough guy. The difference between gun owners and those who think like you is we know that a gun isnt a 100% guarantee of survival. Its a force multiplier. We account for being injured by keeping a medical kit near by for if we are injured (since bullets tend to do that when they hit you).

You on the other hand seem to think that you can somehow single handedly take down a group of criminals with a close range weapon.

>>696224342
Give me a reasonable budget and I can tell you what you can afford.

>>696224725
mur·der
ˈmərdər/
noun
noun: murder; plural noun: murders

1.
the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
>UNLAWFUL
I dont plan on doing something unlawful to defend myself. Self defense via taking a life by definition is not murder.

>>696225076
No, there's less niggers that kill other niggers or white people

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>>696225010
>at any time
When did I ever say it would work immediately? Nowhere. In the case they're unarmed, detaining them and administering a tranquilizer is a very smart move since they'll be out and easy for the police to handle. It sounds like you just don't like the idea because you don't get to murder someone.

>>696225286
Fair? Life is unfair, who said anything about fair. It was a simple observation on my part

>>696213231
Fucking Christ, clam down fat mcgee.

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>>696225267
I disagree anon. I don't want to live in Soviet Russia sir.