You watch this .webm what do

>>696183096
curse myself for wasting a minute watching this dumbass webm

We live in a world where robot's feed humans.

>>696183096
Dont mess with kuka robots

open a sausage pack

a beer

and praise Ahriman

>>696183096
I imagine that this is some alien civilisation's technology and these are human's bodies. That's also why I'm a vegetarian.

>>696183096
sick

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>>696183096
Um, I go back to eating dog because it's fucking delicious?

be mildly interested in the process that goes into making my food

>>696183574
You're a vegetarian because...you don't want to be alien food?

>>696183574
XD

Man I thought people did most of that by hand in factories

I wonder how often that thing needs to shut down to be cleaned, and how slippery the floor is from all the cow juice

>>696183096
Be impressed by the fact we have robot butchers breaking down pigs to feed the masses.

Just looks like food to me.

Shit dead, yo.

>>696183619
spotted the nigger

technology is fucking sweet

>>696183377
... yeah and they also make cars and packaged food and most things you see at any Wal-Mart.
Robotics are a very large component in all modern day industrialism. It's just sophisticated engineering designed to undergo this very same motion over and over again in order to streamline the process.

Think that shit like this is the reason there are no jobs, cutting cost like this helps the buissnes but fucks everything else kn the long run

>>696183096
GOD DAMNED ROBOTS DONE TOOK OUR JERBS!

do a 360 and walk away

>>696183777
pls explain
also checked

>>696183792
no it's not

>>696183574
I thought the same thing, that would be a really cool scene for a horror movie.

>>696183870
and yet people only seem to blame immigrants, makes you think

>>696183327
kek my idea exactly

>>696183096
The engineering that went into those robots and that line is incredible also no hair in my meat from some Mexican dropping it on the floor before packaging it

>>696183574
You do you, pham

>>696183926
it's just a feel, I cant explain

>>696183096
Holy shit that's pretty cool. I use to have to do that with no machinery as a kid. THEY TUK R JUBS!

>>696183096
>what do
fire up the bbq

>>696183096
I wonder why we bother with manual labor butchering pigs.

>>696184196
Do you mean the grill?

>>696183574
Stop killing the plants you vegan shit! plants have the will to live!
here's a tip, go to internet, find a cannibal man, tell them you're interested

>>696183096
it's great when the mankind comes away from 'that you get money only for work' shema.
Some amount of money must be free every month for everyone.

>>696184257 grill < suburban fags cooking steak. BBQ means entire pig cooked at once for an entire party!

>>696183649
No, because human are treating living and feeling creatures like objects, without care about their suffering, just to fullfil people's greed for money and food. I know that we wouldn't like it if some aliens would do the same thing with us so I don't approve of it. We didn't even notice when we became the monsters we would fear.

>>696184568
yeah, spotted the welfare cumslut.

>>696184240
Those are lambs. Non robotic butcher here

>>696183096
[loses job internally]

>>696183960
Its easyer for dumb people to point fingers rather then analize the situation and take into consideration shit like the webm brings up along with other things

>>696184641
That's silly. If dogs or chickens had won and they evolved to build societies, they'd treat us like cattle

>>696184757
semantics at this point really.

>>696183096
WHAT ABOUT THE BUTCHERS?
GOD DANG MACHINES TAKIN R JEEBS½

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>>696183096
the precision is very impressive. robotics has come a long way

>>696184715
What's wrong with welfare?
You shouldn't live in a country where you're forced to pay for something you don't believe in. Pack your bags and go.

>>696183096
That's amazing

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>>696184797
>easyer

>>696184821
>semantics
lamb > pork

>>696184822
Proper butchery, takes into account what he's doing based on the moment in picture, not off of dimensions... Naturally this does not replace a proper butcher. IT does however make cheap meat for walmart. So, be a proper butcher and show these machines up. Can't be hard steak from walmart blows goats.

>>696183096
Think that the engineering and design behind this is fucking amazing

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>>696183096
>what do

I was literally yawning.
Boring shit, you're a fag as usual op.

>>696184956
yeah semantics, since we're whining about how questionable meat is questionably processed.

>>696184800
And would you like them to treat us like cattle? Well, I am like the rare cool evolved dog or cat who wouldn't eat human.

>>696185066
That mentality is like saying chicken, quail and duck are just semantics

>>696184800
That's just a baseless assumption and a bad argument. "We're justified to treat animals immorally because they'd do it to us if they could!" So fucking stupid

>>696185124
If dogs and cats were the definitive intelligence reigning earth I'd say it wouldn't matter how we felt about how we were treated. Especially if it were cats. Those fucks have no fucks to give.

>>696185066
What makes you think that meat was questionable?

>>696184902
Fuck off cunt its likr 4am here, how abiut u bring sothibg goovdssja a jaba asheufh s kei>>696184956

>>696185177
Yeah it is really fucking is... when the meat is handled on a dimensional basis alone? yeah... it's fucking semantics. Did you watch the video and understand what is happening or did you just wanna argue about animals in the farm yard?

>>696185033 Hey edgy poster did you look at the thread? I think two posters so far said anything about morality of the situation. You're the third who felt it even worth mentioning, which just goes to show how much of a try-hard you're being.

Most people are talking about the extreme ends of automation of labor and how that will effect the world/US specifically.

>>696183096
eat pork steak

>>696185284
Well, it's being handled on an assembly line. Rather than cut by hand. Do you think this is how Kobe Beef is treated?

>>696183096
requesting more robot butcher vidyas

>>696183096
Invest in SKYNET

>>696183096
that robot has my dream job

>>696185481
Doesn't make the meat questionable though. I get that kobe is treated well etc but "questionable meat" is more along the lines of unsafe to eat etc

>>696184641
........you don't know much about nature do you? Google "food chain and how it works"

>>696185270
we eat meat
it doesnt really matter how the animal dies so long it dies
this is life
once you die you cease to exist.
it doesn't matter that it felt pain in the last seconds of its life.
it is now dead
it feels nothing because it doesn't exist.
>complaining about how an animal is prepared for food

>>696185387
No it really isn't, there is different cuts from different animals. Eat something besides ramen and Doritos.

>>696184568
Get a job you lazy piece of shit and stop draining money from the tax system.

>>696185391
And I don't give a shit that lowlifes will loose their jobs.

And my picture was just showing that there are jobs who will never be made by machines.
It's only helal if a man cuts the throat of an animal.

>>696183377
We also live in a world where idiots still put an apostrophe when pluralizing nouns.
>people like you are idiot's idiots, idiot.

>now I will stop being a grammar nazi and start being a regular nazi

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>>696185378
>i'm allowed to be stupid because it is a certain hour

>>696186073
*Nazi.
You forgot to capitalise, smartarse

>>696185033
that was not a halal cut. you are not supposed to plunge the blade into the neck.

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wtf I hate chicken now

>>696183096
This is what happens when liberals constantly raise minimum wage

https://i.4cdn.org/b/1469376305999.jpg

what do

>>696183574
Your face when it's been proven that plants react to external stimuli, such as how the droop at night and perk back up again in the morning, almost as if they sleep. They also communicate with pheromones and such too. I'd almost say that plant like can be almost as complex as insects and such.

What are you going to do when it's discovered plants are self aware? Not like you can just stop eating, though it wouldn't be a bad thing if every vegan did that.

>>696185270
You can't treat something which abides by no morals immorally you fucking faggot

>>696183574
>>696183096
I'll just leave it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJwyjWpP4XA

>>696185840
You really are an ignorant bitch. They don't just feel pain in the last seconds of their life, their whole existence is suffering. Go fucking educate yourself. And if you're going to use nihilism as an argument to say that nothing we do matters so we might as well, then you should just kill yourself immediately

>>696186521
That's not how morality works you idiot loll

>>696186013 We're not talking about some sand dune country that won't have automation like seen in the OP for another 150 years, though.

>>696186641
Spotted the defensive vegan pussy. I'd be willing to bet my gains gained from eating meat would put you in the ground faster than you can scream PETA HELP ME

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>>696186641
He mad

>>696186641
Every animal pretty much exists in suffering compared to even the poorest human. not having self awareness must be terrifying.

>>696186329 Wages are supposed to scale with inflation, don't be an idiot.

>>696186778
Apparently you don't understand how protein works, if you actually workout you'd know you need more protein than just eating meat daily can give you. Another dumb bitch

>>696186971
do you eat fish?

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>>696184427
>Stop killing the plants you vegan shit! plants have the will to live!
Underrated post of the century, love how all the vegan fags feel so superior for "not killing life" when that is exactly what they are doing to plants.

>>696186952
They do have self awareness... there's lots of studies that prove so. Some animals even recognize their reflection as themselves. And animals in the wild are not in constant suffering, especially not compared to factory farm situations

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Those food prep conditions are so clean. It makes me feel safe that my food is prepared in a 1st world country.

>>696187063
I eat every thing. I don't have the moral high ground here but what I'm saying is still true

>>696186971
So mad. You're a piece of shit lmao.

>>696183096
All I see is modern technology being as efficient as possible. Anyone that says this is a bad thing cannot embrace progress.

>>696187380
Whatever dude, thanks for adding your worthless opinion and not actually making any argument or adding anything to the discussion. It shows how little brain activity you have going on. You're either a dumb kid and there's still hope for you or a retarded adult in which case you should kill yourself

>>696186641
it doesn't matter how much it suffered in life. they are a lower life form which exists to sustain us, the superior life form

>hurr durr how wood u feal if aliums came and did that 2 u WUT THEN???
if a superior life form over powers and enslaves us for nutrients, so be it. they have won and we have lost. dumb ass. I'll bet you that alien society has risen above petty moral concepts and strives for efficiency. there won't be any arguments among them about how fairly we should be treated, and I bet they euthanize their disabled and retarded.

>>696184757
Stupid lies about those poor pigs.

Fuck off.

>>696187694
I'm the second one. And no, I won't kill myself. I'm going to breed. So many babies. Power spawning babies, spreading my retarded gene, and it will make the world a better place.

when robots gain sentience we meatbags don't stand a chance under their cold unfeeling heel

>>696183096
I feel glad my butcher is populated by humans who do things the good old fashioned way, I guess.

>>696188405
says you, fag. I know html so I will be able to communicate and negotiate a better position for myself under the new robot overlords by giving them information about human hideouts and strongholds.

>>696187847
Morality is all about what we should do and how we should treat others how we would want to be treated. Even if you think they're lower life forms you still admit they experience pain and suffering. So if you use empathy you know that factory farming is immoral. I would say eating game meat from hunting is fine though because it's completely different circumstances. And you keep saying that just because humans "won" means we can do whatever we want, but youre wrong, it's the complete opposite. It means we have a responsibility to this planet and all life forms

>>696188263
The horror

>>696187847
This so much

>>696188692
I disagree. Having firmly established ourselves as the dominate life form of this planet, I would say the human race has an obligation to extend it's reach to the stars and bring other planets under our dominion. We have no responsibility to sustain this planet any longer than necessary.

>>696183096
After ten years of this there will be no jobs left and the economy will collapse.

This is the most possible scenario of the future.

>>696188692
>Morality is all about what we should do and how we should treat others

Yes, others in the SAME FUCKING SPECIES

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>>696183096
great .... no more 15$ per hour for a butcher gay

>>696189268
>and the economy will collapse.
If we keep looking at the economy like we do now (productivity = money), then yes, the economy will collapse. Only when we start to rethink how we structure our society, then will we be able to survive this 4th industrial revolution.

>>696186641
That's not even what nihilism means.

>>696187443
As an engineer in the field of industrial automation of food processing, I can only agree. This kind of job is generally harmful to the people doing them, and they'd be lucky to get 10-15 years of doing it before their body is broken down by the strain.

>>696188263
its funny because dumber people actually have more children

>>696187198
> that one guy every thread

>>696189151
That scenario is thousands and thousands of years away, we're talking about what we should do on earth right now. Having morality is what separates us from other animals. Saying that we have the right to abuse other conscious beings for our own benefit is selfish. One day we'll look back at the factory farming days and think how primitive and disgusting it was that we did that.

>>696189151
we will never reach the age of space exploration. Were destroying the planet too fast and we´re close to being unable to travel outside the earth due to littering in space

>>696183688
>XD
Back to 9gag faggot

>>696190247
civilized countries already do

>>696189832
How isn't it nihilism, that ultimately our actions and everything we do doesn't matter so why do anything

>>696189713
The law and governments are always behind the technology.

I think we'll start rebuilding this system shortly after the collapse.

>>696190493
Yes, we're moving in the right direction

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>>696183574
>When you haven't told anyone you're vegetarian in 20 minutes

>>696183096

i cant do anything but no that im better then anyone that eats meat. proven fact at this point.

>>696190747
here is your reply that you wanted so desperately

>>696190805

tx i guess?

>>696183096
which how it's made episode is this

>>696184070

The engineering and the sanitation were striking. The only thought that crossed my mind was "How efficient! How clean!"

That video is beautiful in so many ways.

>>696183377

a evil world where robots are forced (AGAINST THERE WILL) to be slaves for whitey

>>696187198

I don't think you understand the difference between something being "alive" and something being "a life" learn the difference.

>>696183377
The robots have already won.. feelsbadman

>>696191658

give us your definitions, anon

Be somewhat sad for butchery and butchers in general but also happy b/c less people are going to accidentally lop off body parts. Also happy has progressed this far that dangerous jobs are phased out. Eventually we'll all be virtual Walmart greeters, greeting each other safely in our bubbles and only seeing through our screens

>>696187198
The animals you eat consume plants too and it actually amplifies the means of production by like x10 to eat animals instead of plants. Vegens also get nutrition problems.. so you should be thanking the shit out of them for actually making a difference in their life instead of being a useless whining resource hog.

>>696191865
All jobs will be replaced by robots eventually. For example, soon truckers will be out of a job too as self-driving vehicles become more advanced

>>696191658

plants live a life until they die

>>696191849
Something being "alive" simply means that it is organic, growing and changing i.e. plant life. "A life" has consciousness, feelings, , emotions, can feel pain, etc. Everything that is a life is also alive, but everything that is alive may not necessarily be a life. Plants are not conscious. They do not feel pain, have emotion, or "suffer" the same way that conscious beings (animals, humans) do.

>>696192255
And don't forget that water is wet

>>696183096
goddamn that is some amazing engineering , fucking flawless and clean as fuck.
Robots are the future so much.

Good thing it will take a long long while before the first robo-shrink or teacher comes so my potential job future is safe.

>>696192255

Plants are alive until they die

rip chicken. this is sad

>>696192362

you just don't feel their pain at your current level of consciousness, I have heard their cries they have a soul

>>696192405
>>696192493

exactly, thanks

>>696192362
>Plants are not conscious.
This is actually a huge topic in neurobiology right now. Many of the scientist in the field are starting to side on the plants are conscious at certain level consensus.

>>696183096
Praise robots I guess.

>>696183574
So you are an irrational coward then? Noice.

>>696192832

Source? I'm curious

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>>696192362
Actually plants have a life too.

sorry m8

>>696184641
Not all. Some butcher them cleanly and quickly while giving them a good life. Rather than being a vegan what you should do is try and become the next Hitler and get rid of the jews if you really care about the mistreatment of animals on a large scale.

>>696183574
thats a really bad reason. on the morality of eating meat id say the primary difference between what meat is okay to eat and whats not is dependant on the intelegince of the animal. If smething is not apient then why does it matter? also there is nothing bad happeing in that webm. its just unfeeling corpses being processed. we do the same type of shit to humans weather it be burning them to ash or cutting out their organs and filling them with cotton balls so they look nice.

>>696193032

I know, I explained that already. A life vs. Alive

I'm aware that they grow. The point I was making was that they don't feel pain/aren't conscious etc.

>>696192980
http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants

..that's the first google result but there are plenty of articles out there.

https://www.amazon.com/Tree-Life-Story-David-Suzuki/dp/155365126X

A good book about tree consciousness.

>>696185033
If that's boring you are either incredibly smart (which I very much doubt) or incredibly dumb.

>>696192980
Not the other anon but theres a whole episode of Through the Wormhole about this subject

>>696193032
REKT

>>696192971

ra·tion·al·ize
ˈraSHənlˌīz,ˈraSHnəˌlīz/Submit
verb
1.
attempt to explain or justify (one's own or another's behavior or attitude) with logical, plausible reasons, even if these are not true or appropriate.

>>696192362
>A life" has consciousness, feelings, , emotions, can feel pain, etc. Everything that is a life is also alive, but everything that is alive may not necessarily be a life.

Not only did you pretty much describe plants, but it obvious you are catering your definition of "life" just to make you feel good. GG anon.

>>696192362

http://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2014/04/29/307981803/plants-talk-plants-listen-here-s-how

http://www.smithsonianchannel.com/videos/do-plants-respond-to-pain/12151

Time will tell I suppose :)

>>696193473
>with logical, plausible reasons
Exactly why I said you were irrational. I don't understand why you would support my case.

>>696193276

>don't feel pain/aren't conscious etc.

you're clearly wrong though, you have zero proof. you assume because it fits your narrative.

>>696185033
>the "I'm an edgy fagget" starter kit

>>696193276

They have a life and they are a live.

What do you not understand? YOU are the human that is making your opinion above other life.

>>696183870
Building robots and maintenance require another less shity jobs, retard

>>696193667

let me spell this out for you

>even if these are not true or appropriate.

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>>696193894
That just means logic attempted and failed. It had to be logic in the first place. Or are you saying that there is no difference between rational and irrational? Because at this point it is nothing but semantics.

>>696183096

Hey, I'll get the bbq coals going, get the potato salad and keg out, we gonna have a parrrty!!!!

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>>696183870
mfw people imply innovations are a bad thing

..the problem is the primitive systems we're using not the technology advancements. The proletariat doesn't own the means of production hence us reaping very little of the benefits and grid-locking the system.

>>696184641
okay so a few things. We dont exactly "treat them like objects" they are treated very humanly at least genrally speaking even in large production farms. There are horror stories and thats not okay but we also have slaves and ISIS so what do you want people are not perfect. As far as "just to fulfill peoples freed for money and food" thats just not true. the reason we eat me is beuase we have eaten meat for 200,000 years or more and there are good reasons that we should continue. The diffrence between aliens doing it to us and us doing it to cows is the same as difference between us doing it to cows and doing it to them. you cross a major barrier when youre killing something capable of understanding that it is alive and that would like to go on living. cows cant have that type of though. they just are not capable. when we slaughter cows they go from everything is normal and fine to instantly and totally brain dead and no matter of explaining could make them fear that.

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>mfw a group of atoms are upset that a group of atoms are treating a group of atoms

>>696194138
Quake 4?

>>696184575
Naw hoss, the steaks an appetiser to have with ice cold beer while the hog is slowly cookin for later

>>696185481
not questionable just "of lesser quality" maybe

>>696183096
HOLY SHIT THINGS ARE KILLED TO MAKE MEAT

>>696183096

realize the hypocrisy and stupidity of claiming to be a caring, sensible person but yet eating meat. Go vegan

>>696185124
Yep well said. I just killed my labrador and two cats, I always had a suspicion that they were tasting me when they licked my hand. I just finished cooking them and I invited the vietnamese family across the way. Thanks for the tip!

>>696185481
Well he retired from the lakers

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>>696190124
And eat more chicken

>>696193801
veganism isnt about not taking lives, its about reducing suffering. Also if you eat corn or shit the plant doesnt even die

>>696186329
so you think that automation comes from increases in minimum wage rather than from the need to have beyond human accuracy in certain fields or due to the fact that sometimes machines will simply be better equipped to handle a situation? or better yet just due to the fact that even in countries with no minimum wage these machines are still more affordable to maintain then people? Also shouldnt companies have to pay their employees a wage that they can live off of? weve had thousands of years of trying it the other way and its lead to massive inequality almost every time. why in modern america do we not need to take preventative measure to make sure that people who work 40 hours a week also dont have to live in a hovel. Or is that just the expected norm in your veiw? the lowest of the low performing jobs that take minimal skill but are still necessary for our society to function should have no quality of life and be effective wage slaves? Im not a liberal but easily understood that the minimum wage exists for a reason and is important.

>>696195436
Yep. I'm a vegetarian, I only eat meat from animals that eat vegetables

>>696186641
I live on a farm. I am educated. I see sluaghter houses up close. I know that when I drop off cattle that they will be killed as quickly and painlessly as possible and I know that in there life the did not suffer.

>>696183096

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>>696195436
>if you eat shit the plant doesnt even die

>>696195767
> dadding intensifies

>>696183096
That was really cool

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>>696183574
Im a vegetarian too. You dont have to be such a faggot about it and giving us a bad name

>>696183096
nice that people no long have to be trusted/endangered to do that kind a work too

>>696183574
>That's also why I'm a vegetarian.
fag

>>696194405 You don't have to believe me. But if you pay attention to it cows and other animals are aware of death and frightened of it. There use to be a video online of a cow walking into a slaughter house clearly yelling that it doesn't want to die. It's been edited now so you can no longer view it as it should be done. My tinfoil hat is permanently glued to my head so disregard this if you want because it's a pretty hard to accept conspiracy.

>>696196767 It really isn't a bad view. You take the position of being a controller over many beings of an environment. Substitute in a scenario where you're one of the controlled. Then use the teachings of Jesus basically, do unto others which you would wish to be done to yourself, to guide how you feel about being the controller in the situation.

There was no reason for people to take that very simple concept and go into debate about how aliens would really work, or why they believe dominance is the only truth or shit like that.

>>696193507
>>696193515
>>696193674

Plants don't "talk" or "listen" but they do communicate. Animals don't "talk" either, but they also communicate. It's incredibly short-sighted of people to view the world only through the lens of our own experience. Chemicals are required for emotions, which exist and are created in the brain. The neurons in our brains communicate chemically with each other. Brains are then required for emotions. Wouldn't you agree? If so, then we would be in agreement that higher animals are capable of suffering emotionally while plants are not.

All of your original posts appear to imply that since plants communicate with chemicals, there is no rational justification for preferring to eat them over animals. I claim that the rational justification is that plants do not suffer emotionally, but higher animals do. Do you disagree? While I agree that one can (and should, in my opinion) prioritize one's choice of food, based on the amount of suffering that the organism perceives - all organisms suffer a form of death to become a meal.

Oddly hungry now

>>696197027
I raise cattle. 150 at a time. They just don't behave that way.

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>>696187198
>Samefagging this hard

>>696183096
I am impressed. Why doesn't shit like this make "How It's Made"?

>>696197440
We are predators. We can fight back, nothing will be controlling me

>>696197483
Shut down by an experiencefag
What now tinfoil?

>>696197797

I actually agree. More people need to know about how they receive the meat they buy. Most people don't have a problem buying/eating meat because they make a disconnection between where it comes from and how it gets there.

>>696197471
>Plants don't "talk" or "listen" but they do communicate. Animals don't "talk" either, but they also communicate.
You just proved them right dumbshit

>>696197483
Montana fag here, this is correct. Cows are retarded and don't realize they're about to die.
Evolutionary-wise going on to trucks and in to buildings isn't a fear response threat for them, they've been doing it most of their lives

>>696183917

inb4 clueless newfag says the inevitable

>>696183096
I am impressed by the cleanliness of this operation. It makes me feels

>>696183096
efficient.

>>696198186

Just because something can communicate doesn't make it intelligent dumbass

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>>696198006
My wife has a mental separation between cows and beef. One time walking through the grocery store she said "Lamb chops... Why are they so small?... (5 seconds pass) awwwww :( "
>mfw

>>696197027
>cow walking into a slaughter house clearly yelling that it doesn't want to die
>yelling that it doesn't want to die
>yelling
where is this magical place where cows have voices?

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>>696198355
Me too /b/ro

>>696198556

Yea I hear you. My girlfriend is the same

>>696198470
Exactly and he just said plants do the same shit animals do so who cares

>>696183419
Your greentext skills : 0

>>696198006
I highly doubt the meat industry wants people to know how meat gets in their mouths. If people can just see animals as things and dont give a shit about hygiene they make a lot of money

>>696183096
made me hungry tbh

For the PETA fags ITT ranchers and slaughter house operators have a vested interest in keeping cows cortisol levels low before death. The meat gets gross when they are panicked before they die.
Fast Food Nation anyone?

>>696198910
Fact. A happy cow is tasty cow. Proving there is no abuse present

>>696183096
Buy some steak

Think about brisket. I want good brisket.

>>696198830

In an above post, I stated that the rational justification here is that plants do not suffer emotionally, but higher animals do. One can should prioritize one's choice of food, based on the amount of suffering that the organism perceives - all organisms suffer a form of death to become a meal. That's why we should care.

>>696186601
nice

>>696197996 I've been around cows too. I also have been around a lot of animals in general, my dog for example, or the birds who I converse with. It really doesn't matter and I don't expect someone to understand it without becoming aware of these things on their own. There's no much point in stating what I did other than giving an alternative viewpoint that most people seem unaware of. I still eat meat fairly often by the way.

>>696198882

I know; they don't want people to know. That's why I agreed with the above anon as to why vids like that should be on how it's made, or just made more public. Similarly, two documentaries that I can think of atm are Food, Inc. and Earthlings that deal with what you just wrote

>>696199064
The problem here is that most of these fags take a few anecdotal videos and say it's endemic when it's not. They don't realize how many millions of cows are slaughtered each year. Everyone has phones with cameras... We've seen cops killing people in the past few weeks from cellphone videos, and you're telling me that no one is recording this 'abuse' of animals?

everybody watch this
http://watchcartoonsonline.eu/watch/king-of-the-hill-season-12-episode-6-raise-the-steaks/

>>696199172
Bro we kill animals so quick they dont even know they are getting killed

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>>696183096
Slow, inefficient, expensive

Most ranchers love animals. They care for their stock. Cows are a commodity, yes, but cattlemen aren't cruel. You'd know this if you've ever pulled calves in a February blizzard.

>>696199930

Sure the death itself might be quick, but what about the months/years leading up to that death?

>>696200209
They hang out in pastures and frolic. The feedlots are like a social gathering with a ton of food. They are HERD animals.

>>696200334

I'm under the impression that general cattle are crammed in tiny, unclean and extremely harsh living conditions. Or are you referring to free-range?

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Who could murder this sweet face?

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>>696200209
They live great live in america dude. We hang out with them, help them raise babies keep them safe
>Pic related
Do these cows seriously look like they are sufferin?

>>696200541
>cattle are crammed in tiny, unclean and extremely harsh living conditions.
That's mostly massive feedlot operations after they're sold by the rancher and about 6 months before going to market.

Up until the rancher sells them, they're treated well.

Feedlots are fucking disgusting.

>>696200541
No nigger I'm not. I'm referring to beef raised in the cattle states like Texas, Wyoming, Montana. You can't raise cows in pens like chickens. They have to move and develop. I can't imagine the cost of penning them in and feeding them hay, it's cheaper and easier to put them in pastures.
You have a lot to learn about cattle if all you know is the propaganda about "end of life" shit spewed by vegans

>>696183574
How can you tell if someone is vegetarian? Oh, they'll fucking tell you they're vegetarian

>>696183096
There goes even less employment.

When it hits the service sector we're screwed.

>>696200885

This was what I was referring to

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>>696200919
This

>>696200919

That's why I don't tell anyone

>>696200919
I'm aware of how fucking annoying that sounds which is why I don't care to tell people my eating habits

>>696201185
This is where you get select and choice cuts. In order to get high quality beef they have to be finished. Feedlots are gross, but Americans aren't willing to pay $6/lb for burger so the cows can have more room. The market drives conditions. The USDA has requirements on the treatment of livestock for food, they are aware of feedlots, and you're dollars and government say what's happening there is OK.

>>696190526
the point is to free yourself from any sort of social or philosophical concern about what to do with your life. it's understanding that as humans, there's tons of shit we worry ourselves over and remembering that it ultimately means nothing

the tl;dr for nihilism is pretty much "don't worry about stupid shit"

>>696200209
They are genral treated very well in my experience.

>>696200919
saying youre vegetarian to a group of meat eaters is suicide. Holy shit it triggers people

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>>696203183
Same thing when a conversation leads to me saying I'm atheist
>tips

>>696201854
Why would i pay more for cows to be treated well if they dont have feelings and also have a painless death? Theyre not in fucking distress.

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>>696183096
Start a BBQ

>>696183096
Damn those machines are amazing

So I'm a vegetarian, but this is fucking cool.

>>696201930 we both gave the same definition, mine is just more generalized

>>696191658
Making excuses.

In tests with Philodendron, plants reacted to the deaths of brine shrimp.

Plants do in fact suffer and react to pain.

If you are going to act as if you hold the moral high ground?

I would suggest you follow Jainism or become a Breatharian. Do not eat other lifeforms to survive it is an evil act.

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>>696183096

Damned Robots took er jobs!

>>696183377
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_1apYo6-Ow

>>696190731


In case anyone is wondering what/why he is doing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cow_blowing

It stimulates cows to produce milk when they have had any calfs. It's a practice that happens in many third world cultures - not just africa.

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>>696190747
The fact that you can't figure out the dirrerence between the words no and know means you probably are not any better than any other human on the face of the Earth. In fact the level of your arrogance would suggest you are lower than whale scum.

>>696190747
The fact that you can't figure out the difference between the words no and know means you probably are not any better than any other human on the face of the Earth. In fact the level of your arrogance would suggest you are lower than whale scum.

>>696183574
That sounds about right for vegetarianfag logic.

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>>696207356
For fucks sake Hiro the posts are less than a minute old and you do not allow them to be deleted fuck off you 4chink you are no longer a viable website owner.

>>696183096
Crave a pulled pork sandwich

>>696207876
There is never a bad time for a pulled pork sandwich.

>>696183096
WHEN IS THE ANUS SERVED?

>>696183096
Gain a greater appreciation for the meat industry. Look at how clean and efficient that shit is!

>>696183096
when i was a kid i wanted to be a butcher, now i understand why i'm unemployed

>>696205925

Had you read the entire conversation, you would have read this post

>>696197471

While I agree that one can (and should, in my opinion) prioritize one's choice of food, based on the amount of suffering that the organism perceives - all organisms suffer a form of death to become a meal. Plants suffer far less than animals do. Also Breatharianism is bullshit. And even in Jainism they eat fruits and vegetables you fuckwit.

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>>696186510
Of all the butthurt replies to that guy, yours is the most butthurt of all and that, on this occasion, is truly no small feat.

Congratulations.

>>696183096
Go cook some bacon.

>>696205925

how the hell can an organism without a central nervous system suffer?

>>696210161

I think he is referring to this post, among others. New research suggests that plants actually do have a sense of "intelligence" to them.

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>>696195436
>Also if you eat corn or shit the plant doesnt even die

If you buy corn at a store the plants the ears grew on have been shredded to death. Also wouldn't eating just the limbs of an animal and keeping it alive be considered a greater cruelty?

>>696210161

Literally what I was arguing in this entire thread

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>>696210883
ignore the trolls