I think I wish the coup had worked. It sounds like people are trying to have a say in their government but they're being silenced by a pro-Sharia regime that's had a stranglehold on the country for 14 years.
>and this is the 5th time they've tried to do this
>>694846076 The Turkish army is well known for being secular Erdogen is known for being the opposite, and keeps religion + goverment very close togetgher. unfortunately most Turks are muslim, and Erdogen was elected fairly, It's just the Secular army is smart enough to see that all he is going to do is take the country backwards, and undoing a lot of what Ataturk worked for when he formed modern day Turkey.
Western media will spin this as a victory for the people and democracy. When in reality it is everyday Turks who are probably going to be hurt the most by their country going backwards towards the Stone Age.
>>694846076 He is a dictator. He have no tolerans for any other ideology. If you don't think like he do, you are his enemy. He will implement Sharia law. At least he wants to do this. Not like other Islamic countries but he wants it.
Btw 726 soldiers arrested. Full genaral was captured by coup force but saved right now.
>>694842004 It was so poorly done, it failed before it even started. It's like they thought their entire plan could succeed as long as they could take a few media outlets. Plus, they did it when the president was out of country? That's a huge failure of trying to do a coup. They only had a handful of men, and almost no support from the people, which is why the failed because of the people. I can't believe the story was even hyped in the first place.
>>694848226 Turkey has almost 79 and a half million people, most of them are pro-islam and pro-government and 630 million of which are armed forces. Those almost thousand rebels aren't getting anywhere. It's over.
>>694848725 My people aren't that bad. They aren't well educated. They have strong faith and strong loyality to country. They are just naive and not educated. If you start a party with " I have faith, Allah is great and bla bla" and do some stuff for country they will vote for you. This is the way Erdoğan gets his power and stay powerfull.
>>694851108 Cry over your Brexit on the way, humans are tired of Muslim filth. At least the ones not like you licking shitskin nutsacks and enabling and encouraging their natural terroristic ways like you and all liberals.
>>694842004 Fucking EU and Hillary supporting a corrupt Muslim extremist and acting like the military is the bad guy...and this is after said corrupt leader killed the Syrian groups NATO was arming... Jesus Christ what a bunch of faggots.
>>694848889 Not extremism like ISIL but extremism as in, going from a secular society founded by a famous secular Muslim leader to a corrupt theocracy similar to Iran. Bad shit happens but throwing yourself to religious leaders because the world is scary is dumb.
>>694852833 >>694852970 Not baiting. And where did i say i support isis? Fucktard. I hate isis as much as you do, I'm just saying if ataturk leads the country, it will be screwed. The democracy Erodgan has created is what makes this country beautiful. If someone else were to become a president, Muslims in the country will have no freedom.
>>694853960 He was democratically elected you retard. To even have a successful coup you need to have the backing of the people. Clearly they didn't have the backing of the people considering many were protesting and confronting the military, Not only that but the chief of the navy didn't support the coup either,
>>694854234 He said that Erdogan created the democracy when anybody with open eyes can see that Erdogan is actively ruining the democracy. He's a goat fucking haji with a penchant for death, except he wears a suit and achieves his goals through intelligent manipulation rather than overt violence. Why don't you go on social media and start posting a lot about how you think Erdogan is gay, then get back to us from your prison cell. Enjoy your democracy.
>>694843135 The coup leaders are ISIS. Did you get to see the Turkey CNN broadcast when they took it over? It lasted for about an hour and the screams and yelling were chilling. Guess we gotta pick on raghead over another one.
>>694854929 I'm not saying he isn't one, im just saying that if the people really wanted him out he would be fucking gone! Its basically written in their constitution. You can't just dismiss people by calling them blind, learn to put up a fucking argument.
Fuckem. Let them slide into their 7th century goat fucker religion. NATO needs to kick them out and hopefully Russia will conquer them and reestablish Constantinople. Not like the faggots in the EU will ever do anything.
>>694842004 holy shit the military was the last defense for SECULARISM in that shit country and now that they got defeated Erdogan is gonna go full islamist. he already jails anyone that insults him or questions him!!! Turkey is fucked if you are secular
>>694842004 Well trained armed forces with firearms, light and heavy armoured vehicles, armed jets and helicopters and they still managed to fail this quick and this badly, with countless soldiers surrendering too. This doesn't sit right with me, not at all. I imagine these people had at least some intelligence as it's needed in the military to conceive achievable missions, so they would have known when and where to hit Erdogan himself and take down a large chunk of the government. Instead they attacked government buildings in the middle of the night when few people of real importance are nearby. I know these people are retarded hajis but, fuck, this seems like just one part of a bigger picture to me, and not a picture intended to overthrow Erdogan. Maybe my tin foil hat is one size too big, I don't know.
>>694855981 Exactly, the people are fucking deluded by this shit religion and therefore want their shit muslim leader. And as the other turk anon in the thread was saying, secularists are far and few between there.
>>694842004 I wonder why americans are a bunch of pussies. They were crying for obongo to stop being their president, and what did they do? They sat down on their porches and kept eating hamburgers. AMERICANS ARE ALL TALK AND NO ACTION.
>>694855289 indeed. heart sank when I saw it had lost. Should have moved earlier. Ataturk is weeping in heaven.
>>694845538 There's always hope, brother. Any culture that locates its nexus in the past is doomed from the start, because we'll only ever move further away. Things might get worse, they probably will, but the future is ours. Look to that.
And when the time comes, do what you have to do to ensure it.
>>694856590 I think Erdogan just got lucky, the military has a history of doing this but remember back then Turkey was more secular. Today Turkey is full fucking Islam and the few Secular people have fucked off or are afraid. Turkey is truly dead now and Erdogan will have all the power
>>694857783 Well this seems mighty unconnected to the content of this thread, seems like you have some pent up hatred toward the yanks. They dumped our tea in the see a while back and even we managed to squash that beef. Wew lad.
You know, it really bugs me that no one is mentioning the purpose of Turkey's military and how it's structured. It's akin to the US's 2nd amendment. It's entire point is to fuck up the government when they start to get to islam-ified. They have broken their foot off in the government's ass 4 times since 1920, overthrowing it completely. That is their job. It is their duty. This is not some terrorist act, or rebel uprising. This is the government's failsafe kicking in. A threat to the country was identified, and it needed to be put down.
The problem is Eddy has been systematically removing all the people not loyal to him from the military and replacing him with his poker buddies. The effect is that the military's ability to do its job and overthrow a corrupt government is significantly weakened. And *if* this whole thing was not staged by Eddy, then what you're seeing now is a weakened military's last stand and doing the job it was made to do.
>>694854549 >Clearly they didn't have the backing of the people considering many were protesting and confronting the military
Okay, this is plain wrong. He used religion. He did the prayer call all fucking night to call people to the streets to fight in the name of Islam. This is like the Pope calling out Catholics to smack down Israel in the name of Christianity. Except in this case, it's Islam, who are loyal to the point of retardation when it comes to their religion.
He used Islam as a tool against the stupid people that swear by it. This had nothing to do with his personal approval rating. Which you know damn well was rigged in that election. To this day people still talk about the circumstances of that election being extremely suspect.
>>694842004 The army thought the people would be on their side, but they were wrong, because most of the people are uncivilized muslim brutes who listen to no one else than Erdoğan the dictator. Also, they should've captured the president/prime minister/etc. first. That's one of the reasons they failed. This is going to be good for Erdoğan. He's going to do a referendum about changing the government system from the system in the UK (there is a prime minister and the president has less say in stuff) to the system in the US (president has much more say and he's the commander in chief), and people will support him. It's going to be fucking horrible.
>>694865765 > they should've captured the president/prime minister/etc. first >This is going to be good for Erdoğan
also remember that this is already the 4th time the turkish military makes a coup!
Am i the only one who is amazed how stupidly they arranged the coup? Doing it while Erdogan is (or so they say) out of town on holiday. Not claiming and infiltrating important buildings and infrastructure first, etc.
it will be easily countered. and they turkish people will remember those who were against erdogan as those who killed and injured all those civilians.
erdogans position will be even stronger and more influential.
with that coup he has nothing to fear but so much to gain.
>>694867583 also erdogan blames Fethullah Gülen for the coup who currently lives in the USA. also i am certain that after the coup is unsuccessful he will ask the USA to hand Fethullah Gülen over. they will decline and erdogan will start a campaign against USA. slowly turning the turkish people against their former ally. but if you keep in mind how many military bases the USA have in turkey and how many american ships are in the mediterranean sea in turkish waters.. this will be a huge conflict.
and with turkey being the only landroute to the EU (northern route will be heavily fortified and protected by russia) turkey will become the last key piece in a full on offensive of the islamic forces against Europe.
and that'll be how the next big war will come upon us.
the most funny thing is that every single turk loves atatürk. but then they praise Erdogan who does the complete oppsite of Atatürk and wants to make Turkey an islamic republic. holy fuck turks are the dumbest people on earth
Erdogan will weaken the military Erdogan will replace the key generals with Erdogan loyal soldiers Erdogan will by law strengthen his position in case of war, uprising and future coup Erdogan will hunt down those who took part in the coup Erdogan will use this as an excuse to hunt those who think critically of his regime Erdogan will blame the kurds for terroristic acts Erdogan will further strip the kurds of rights and make them the turkish jews Erdogan will still be backed by european leaders as they are saying that they have to respect the democratically elected leader Erdogan will start an offensive against the kurdish populated (not recognized) area of kurdistan Russia will threaten Turkey. Turkey will not stop. Russia will send lots of troops to the black sea That is they reason why Russia took Crimea earlier as it has HUGE strategical value!
>>694855276 You should never believe CNN they're one of the most partial and playing parts of intrnational conflicts. This could b easily staged by top chiefs in the network with coup leaders and if turk anon is right also with the president
>>694871811 Russia will let USA and EU fight against northern Africa and the near east. as soon as islamic countries are weakened russia will help bring freedom to turkey, invading from the black sea and through Georgia and Azerbaijan (and Armenia).
There will be threat of nuclear strikes. It will be feared that Afghanistan, Iran, Irak and Turkey have access to nuclear bombs.
With Afghanistan being so near to Pakistan and India, India will join in. Fun Fact: India spends a LOT of money on their military
>>694854194 kek with what? Muslims are just a piece of shit, same as the africans living in the medieval age. They'd lucky sitting on some oil field, make them rich. But they are still dumb and garbage of the world
>>694847416 no hold on, it was the police who were radicals and BROKE the govt chain of command right, who were THEN repressed by the government THROUGH the military. its not like the military isnt part of the government...
>>694873559 I am glad you do. I don't hate Turks, just people who has that kind of thinking like muslims right now. If you don't believe in our thing, you will be punished. Goddamn it's 21st century, those practice were cool 500 years ago.
The really horrible part of all of this is that it is democracy that have won. That means most turks actually is behind that retarded fuck. I'm from Sweden and I have no problem with migrants but ever sins i was a kid just every turk I ever meet has been a fucking horrible human being. I was sooo hoping for Russia to just make a parking lot of the hole country or give it to the Kurds. Fucking NATO!
>>694872588 India will use this opportunity to end their long dispute with Pakistan. Also they will try to fully take the Kashmir region.
China will take Tibet.
Northkorea will do Northkorea things.
South Korea and Japan will want to invade North Korea. China will threaten South Korea and Japan. America will pledge alliance to South Korea (again) There will be attacks on south Korea from north korean side done by north koreans and chinese. south kora will attack north korea. china will aid north korea. japan will do nothing. small conflicts possible uprising in Myanmar, Laos, Thailand, ... because of the muslim population.
i don't claim to know much about the situation in turkey but msnbc was calling out erdogen and how similar he is to putin in the way that he's abusing his powers and also gave a ton of context to what's going on, not unlike what you did
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