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>someone ususes a gun to kill 50 people >blame guns >someone

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>someone ususes a gun to kill 50 people
>blame guns
>someone uses a truck to kill 80 plus people
>blame the person driving the truck
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>truck is used for delivering goods and transportation
>a gun's only use is to kill
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>kill animals for food with guns
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>>694744426
You need a license to purchase and drive a truck in the US, you can drive into Walmart of your scooter covered in dorito crumbs at two in the morning and leave fifteen minutes later with an AR-15. Silly Amerifag.
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>>694744426
are you actually stupid?

lets ban planes cause those have also been used to kill people actually

>kill yourself
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>>694744878
Last time I checked slaughter houses don't use guns.
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>>694744426
fucking retard
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>You need trucks to get around
>You don't need guns to do literally anything but shoot other people who have guns
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>>694746092
No that's not true
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>>694744426
If everyone had their own truck, No one would have died
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>>694744426
Actually I heard they are discussing the illegilization of trucks...
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>>694747379
this
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>>694747474
>4747474
Damn
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>>694747433
>>694747433
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>>694747474
>747474
that's some kind of cool get

But still, tucks are useful, guns have literally no use
Stop pretending to be retarded, guise
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>>694747474
Good. it's about time we ban these high-capacity heavy assault trucks. I mean, everyone needs a license to use a truck but look what happened.
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>>694746092
Do you really need a license to purchase a vehicle in europe? That is lame.
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>>694747433
Hahaha! XD
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>>694744625
Don't be stupid, stupid.
A person murders.
A gun is a machine (until terminator happens)
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>>694746508
Exactly his point, you're the stupidly. Don't ban the weapon, ban the muslim, I mean murderer.
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>>694746609
Also, you need a license to drive a truck, and if you own one you need to register it...
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>>694746663
OP is on point, you're the dumbly here
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>>694744426
So true
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>>694746092
You don't have to have a license to purchase a car in America. Just to use it on the roads. Same goes for most places in America. Nothing required to purchase. But you typically have to be licensed to carry in public. And if you act stupid is revoked. Plus they don't sell ARs in Walmart anymore. Haven't for a while.
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>>694744625
Guns are intended to protect.
You are a brainwashed sheeple that cannot fend for yourself.

That's why someone can walk into a Chinese subway station and kill 50 people with a KNIFE!
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>>694744625
http://abcnews.go.com/US/sharp-shooting-us-army-veteran-rescues-bald-eagle/story?id=40325880
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>>694744878
> only niggers do that

> normal people buy food
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>>694748602
A truck can carry 30 tons of life saving medicine.
A gun can carry 30 rounds of life saving bullets
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>>694744426
>in b4 Americans out panic buying trucks
>I's the only way to be safe
>We gata defnd r slefs
>2nd amend ment

>tonight on fox
>concealed truck's a step to far?
>Locals say No and have petitioned the government for the development of assault trucks
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>>694748762
Wait... what?

Most niggers don't hunt. Is mostly white people who aren't afraid of being shot for owning a gun.
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>>694747808
says the guy that need an insurance to have basic medical help, get in debt for all is life to have an education and can't drink before he turns 21
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>>694749192
Haha, yeah, I've never seen a single black person ever hunt a damn thing in his life, aside from stalking through dark alleys looking for a rape victim.
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>>694746092
And look how many people drive cars without a license. Drivers license laws were created to make money for the state. It's not about public safety. Immigrants that don't know the language the test is written in can pass it.

Gun licenses are just as corrupt, but in a more nefarious way. The government wants to be able to decide who is allowed to have a gun. All laws intended to control guns will be used to this end. The constitution protects our riot to have guns beyond the power of the government so that we can OVERTHROW THEM if they become "unruly".
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>>694746092
Listen dumbfuck wal Mart doesn't sell guns. You need a license to carry concealed weapons permit and need a background check to even think about buying a gun legally. Otherwise it's street niggers selling faulty weapons
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>>694744426
Folks, it's time we get serious about vehicle control and vehicle control legislation as well as brining the manufacturers of these vehicles to court as they are responsible.

This wouldn't have happened if there were laws prohibiting driving over people. This wouldn't have happened if there were laws restricting how you can operate a vehicle. This wouldn't have happened if there were vehicle free zones.

The time has come to act like a civilized nation.

Also, Islam is a religion of peace and Muslims can never do anything wrong ever no matter what.
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>>694750144
Pretty much
Nice dubs
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trucks are used to deliver guns,explosives and isis troops, we should ban them!
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>>694750145
Walmart does sell guns just not ARs and handguns. They do sell rifles and shotguns. Not him btw. And every Walmart that sells guns still runs backgrounds and follows all state and federal firearms dealers laws. Same as any gun store or pawn shop
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>>694750145
You fucking autist bro? Every walmart except one within 15 miles of me sells guns. Try going outside and getting some sun on that neckbeard
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>>694750145
Walmart does sell guns.
I bought my m4 from walmart.
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so what happens when a driverless Lorry plows into a crowd of people is that a truck or a Terminator?
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im gonna vote for trump and im glad for the brexit, so i sleep very good at night.
lets hope all the ones who died are people who supported the immigraton.
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I identify as an assault truck sexually
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>>694747474
Is easier for a 3 year old in the ghetto to get a truck than a glass of water.
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>>694744426
I don't care about the method of killing employed, when a muslim does it, it's just further proof of a problem with muslims. They're dangerous people and I don't want to live in the same country as them.

When my own compatriots commit a crime, well, there's little we can do about our own people commiting crimes in the country, but there's a hell of a lot we can do to stop people who commit crime from coming in.

People from North Africa, the Middle East, and the children of immigrants from these countries, they're dangerous fucking psychopaths, and we need to be realistic and kick them out.

Kick them all out.
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Quick give me a life saving Bullet I'm having a heart attack :D
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>>694750792
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Ban trucks there's so dangerous kill many people stop the violence America has so many trucks that people are kill in with nobody need trux only reason fo tux is mooder piiplz durm murcans wan creek stop 8 babbies huradura fartknockerflabbadabba Doobydooby deez nutz
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>>694751133
Thanks for shitposting. Have a nice day
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>>694750145
While I am a staunch advocate of supporting the Constitution instead of destroying it like liberals want in their pursuit of tearing down America, I must point out a flaw in your statement.

CCP laws vary state by state and are regulated at the state level, for example in my state you can open or conceal carry without a permit.

Additionally, private sales are allowed between citizens and require no Federal Firearms License which can also be extended to gathering events such as the floors of gun shows. This is a risk as you get no warranty and are typically purchasing a used firearm.

Only niggers buy guns from niggers in the street and typically because they are felons and have the guns illegally, like ol Castille when he tried to pull his illegal gun to kill a cop and got shot himself instead.
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>>694744426
>OP uses his mouth to suck 50 dicks
>blame the mouth
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>>694750541
CT here the Wal-Mart's dont sell guns anymore just airsofts and the like. Machete and knife city though.
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>>694750457
Bull shit. I live in the bible belt and you can buy every type of gun at Walmart.
Handgun, rifle, shotgun, and AR
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>>694744426
Guns have one purpose, To kill. Trucks on the other hand...
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>>694751535
You my friend are a liar.
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>>694751661
Target shooting isn't killing and that's even in the Olympics.

Liberal harder you douchebag faggot.
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>>694751525
Sucks to be where you're at, doesn't change the amount of guns for sale where I'm at
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I blame Optimus Prime, it's all his fault,we never had this problem till the Transformers got here!
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>>694744625
/Thread
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>>694751346
What about me? I can't get a gun cause I tries to off myself. What if I get nigger raped in the streets and have to start a racewar in whitch all mexicans become radioactive and people and they make earth there colony and fees the other races to a giant female George Lopez and queen. Then how will you get to work Dave
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>>694744625
/Thread
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>>694744426
The truck's intended purpose is not to kill as many humans as possible.
The AR15's intended purpose is.
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>>694749031
A truck can carry 3 tons of explosives ... check
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>>694752051
When in doubt, you should always absolutely, positively, kill every last motherfucker in the room.
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>>694752051
You already tried robbing the government of one of their slaves (you) so they really dont give a damn about you anymore. You better start sucking bbc for the guns you need in that race war
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>>694751661
Technically, you're wrong. Guns don't kill, bullets kill. An unloaded gun sitting on a table never killed anyone.A Jeep with no driver killed an actor.
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>>694751661
Bullet: low mass + high velocity = kill
Truck: high mass + low velocity = kill

With enough force you can kill someone with a fucking apple. It just depends if *YOU* use that force in self defense or not. It's not the object's fault.
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>>694748237
So a license and registration didn't stop the truck from plowing all those people, huh?
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>>694752179
What is the Alfred P. Murrah building?

Shit Retarded Liberals Forget for 1,000.
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>>694751861
You an use a gun for whatever you want. But it's purpose, it's reason for existing, it's intended purpose ans the reason it was invented, remains, to kill.
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>>694751661
Wrong, Guns have one purpose. To fire a projectile at a high velocity. Try to logic.
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If guns are the issue and are what kill people. Set a gun on a table and tell it to kill. Let me know how many die. If you believe it's guns and not people then people don't write books pens do . So why don't you go ahead and take this time to lay a pen and pad on a table and have it write a best seller.
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>>694752116
>The AR15's intended purpose is.
it would be the purpose of the soldier/terrorist. not the purpose of the obtect per se

there are many people with guns that never would consider "kill as many humans as possible"
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>>694752392
>With enough force you can kill someone with a fucking apple
top kek
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>>694752468
That's what a gun does. Not its purpose, I think you have logic confused with something else.
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It can carry a hell of a lot more than 3 ton of explosives, depending on the size of the truck and the type of explosives. I still can't believe that the mad man that carried out the attack only used the lorry to run into people. I am very surprised that the lorry wasn't pack with explosives.
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>>694751535
I've worked in the Wal-Mart product department for the last 4 years. You're lying.
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>>694750973
What about the hispanics?
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>>694744625

I'd run you over given the opportunity.
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>>694744426
Except gun murders occur all the time, and vehicular murders occur almost never, so your argument is trash
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Most Americans and the rest of the world don't even know why we have the 2nd ammendment. We have it so that we can form militia and have a fighting chance against out government should things get to a point where the govt needs to be over thrown
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>>694748602
>he thinks using a gun is 'fending for yourself'
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>>694752448
see
>>694752468

Stop trying to apply liberal brainwash logic to everything and learn to think critically. You will enjoy life more if you don't repeat what your underwater basket weaving professor taught you on your path to your gender studies degree.
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>>694752569
Yes, it's a funny thought but it is true. You can kill people with a lot of random every day objects/food etc. If you really wanted to, you'd find a way to.

An apple is fairly solid, the initial impact if thrown at a high enough force will be enough to knock someone out. Even higher, it could just be enough to do some internal damage.

It'd have to be a lot of force though. When the apple splits a lot of the energy would be lost.
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>>694752468

How else are we supposed to keep savage niggers from raping our women?

checkmate.
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>>694750949

Which form of payment would the nigger be able to present forward?
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>>694752788
So it's there in case of Trump?
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if clinton wins, i will be happy to tell everyone who didnt vote for trump that they are the reson why the world is shit.
and if trump wins, im ready to be told the same.
i kinda want hillary to win, just so i can treat people like crap lol.
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>>694752857
See
>>694752652
Try not to be an idiot for a change.
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>>694752487
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>>694744426
i used to fuck a girl that transformed into a truck sometimes in my yakko suit.
she'd come over sometimes while her boyfriend was away after school.

once the door would close she'd almost instantly get naked. most times she'd put on her favorite song and start sucking. then she would cry. her tears and makeup would drip down her face onto my dick. its surprising how cold tears are. eventually i finally asked her what was wrong. in between licks she told me that her favorite song was also her bfs favorite song. so even though she loved hearing it and it totally got her pussy wet, it also made her think about the fact that she was cheating on her boyfriend. i dont think i ever came harder down somebodies throat then right after she told me that. she was beautiful. we dont hang out anymore. wanna get lunch?


this was the song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOOb3wPNMAg
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>>694752983
So you're going to use gun control to stop a terrorist who used a truck?
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>polchan.net
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>>694752918
im gonna find a few people and make them feel like shit after a few years of blaming them. hopefully they will kill themselves. i know a few who are mentally on the border.
everytime i talk to them i will say:
"what do you think as a racist?"
and things like that. and hang up notes in their community.
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>>694752721
beaners need to go back
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>>694752857
Underwater weaving is cool and all, but I prefer time at the range. I have national color in sharp shooting, and carry.

But I have managed not te delude myself to think of guns as soft cuddly toys. They are designed to and maent to kill. Period.
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>>694744426
what was the cause we made the first truck?
What was the cause we made the first weapon?

FFS
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>>694752901
Bruh thank you for that I mean I was feeling like this thread was lacking in many ways and then I read your post and EUREKA!!!.....your a faggot
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>>694753185
See there you go again, confusing logic and idiocy.
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>>694753285
Thanks.

Vote for Trump, make the 2nd amendment relevant again.
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>>694747433
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>>694753350
I'll also take note that this is France with strict gun laws yet the terrorist had guns and bombs as well as a truck.

How exactly did gun control stop him?
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>>694752690
Guy he was talking to. Was the removal of ARs from Walmart a PR move?
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>>694744625
Exactly. OP just set up a false equivalency fallacy
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>>694752901
There's a reason Hillary wants the 2A gone
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>>694753514
Ironically for once. He's right.
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>>694753696
see >>694753586

France has gun control. Yet this happens. How did gun control keep this from happening?
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>>694748717
Nice gun.
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>>694748602
/thread

And I'm not even pro-gun or own a gun. This anon just made a good persuasive statement.
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>>694744426
>someone ususes a gun to kill 50 people
>>blame guns
>>someone uses a truck to kill 80 plus people
>>blame the person driving the truck


YOU ARE OFFICIALLY RETARDED

no one ever said to was the fault of an inanimate gun that killed people in Orlando
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>>694747745
Tell that to a farmer, moran.
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>>694753835
And yet they're going for gun control propaganda instead of dealing with extremist Muslims for fear of appearing religiously intolerant in this PC world.
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>>694744426
>>694748602
If guns don't kill people, then guns don't save people either.

Allowing easy access to guns so that 'good people' can protect themselves and others also allows 'bad people' to buy guns. What good is a gun if the aggressor also has a gun? Surely an armed mugger will have their gun pointed at you before you can get your gun pointed at them. There is a huge risk associated with loose gun laws, considering that a 'bad guy' with a gun could kill someone in seconds, before any 'good guys' could possibly react.

'Herd immunity' due to everyone owning guns is ridiculous too, because it makes gun-free zones obvious targets to terrorists or criminals. Unless you plan on everyone having a gun at all times (e.g. at the beach, in the cinema, at school, in a restaurant, etc.), there will always be vulnerable targets. Of course, this also allows criminals into places which may be vulnerable for other reasons (e.g. schools, hospitals, etc.), so this is not a sensible option.

Allowing access to guns for the protection of the community only makes sense if you make efforts to ensure that you're only giving guns to good guys who understand the laws of the area, e.g. through the establishment of a police force.
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>>694753835
Yes. Yes they did. Even Obama used it as a chance to blame guns. Didn't mention Islam once in his address. But damn sure said guns were the problem
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>>694753586
>>694753783
No one is answering these questions. I rest my case. Liberals are fucking idiots.
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>>694753955
Carmegeddon FTW.
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>>694753783
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>>694753783
Who said anything about gun control? Not me. Red herring fallacy
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>>694744426
Damn
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>>694753586
he had one gun, I think I read that all the others were fakes
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Pretty sure anybody blaming the gun would also blame the stupid motherfucker using the gun.

Your logic is retarded. Trollfag detected.
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>>694752468
So you are saying that guns aren't meant to be used as a blunt force object?
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>>694754106
Backpedal harder, bitch.

I rest my case.

>>694754136
And a truck. And bombs. Gun control did shit. Same with Charles Hebdo. Same with all the other terrorist shootings.

Answer that.
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>>694754050
Yep but Look close at the dash board
>guess your safe
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>>694746092
This, sans Amerifag.
>>694746609
You're a fucking retard.
Captive bolt gun. The word "gun" is right there, fuckbrain.
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>>694754006
>Allowing access to guns for the protection of the community only makes sense if you make efforts to ensure that you're only giving guns to good guys who understand the laws of the area, e.g. through the establishment of a police force.

We do this already. And because of it areas with higher legal gun ownership see lower violent crime rates. And liberal Utopias where guns are more restricted have the highest violent crime rates in the world. Chicago has carry now and their crime rates are getting lower.
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>>694753586
anddddd

I've had guns for years

never shot anyone
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#truckcontrol
#banalltrucks
#religionofpeace
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>>694753265

And? does that matter? Many things the government has banned are things that werent intended to be used maliciously. The weapon was invented for defense purposes/war/hunting. What op is saying is that liberals like to pinpoint at the gun itself, not the person who shoot at it. Dumb fuck.
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>>694752468
I'm so tired of explaining this!

Guns are intended to provide everyone with the ability to use deadly force against others to protect people and property from people that you wouldn't be able to defeat otherwise. They provide defense against dangerous people that pose a threat to your safety or property.

This is why every politician in the work is protected by men with guns. Because it keeps them safer. MY SAFETY IS JUST AS VALUABLE AS A POLITICIANS!
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>>694746092
>covered in dorito crumbs
Is this common practice in the USA?
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>>694754045
you waited like 2 minutes. try reading some other responses which may address your questions before you declare a resounding victory
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>>694744625
A "Gun" can be used as a...
-hammer
-paper weight
-window breaker
-a door stop
-a spatula
-an ammo holder
A device that sparks conversation everywhere.
Etc...
More than one use. Use your head.
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>>694754461
>the way to stop terrorism in France is to do nothing and let them run roughshod all over us

Prepare your white flag.
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>>694754006
Imagine the guy used an assault rifle and nobody had a weapon to shoot back at him, how many people would he have taken out? The idea that banning weapons magically prevents thugs from getting weapons is just retarded. It doesn't work and you look like an idiot for saying so.

The US' "gun problem" is really a cultural one. Gang culture is killing the fun. There's a lot of countries with similar gun ownership rates than the US and no serious incidents ever happen there.

>it makes gun-free zones obvious targets to terrorists or criminals
That's already happening. The majority of shootings are carried out in gun free zones. The question is: Do you need more or fewer gun free zones to solve the issue?

>ensure that you're only giving guns to good guys who understand the laws of the area, e.g. through the establishment of a police force.

You can't. Under no circumstances ever. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try, but luckily we already are.
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>>694754461
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>>694754006
>If guns don't kill people, then guns don't save people either
Correct, it however makes it easier to do both
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>>694754544
And? You still have no answer.

How did France's gun control laws fare in stopping terrorism from getting guns or even other means of killing people?
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>>694754093
This.
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>>694747729
wtf stop usin my meymeys u faged >:c
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>>694747433
PHew I'm safe. I have a truck to defend myself from a tyrannical government.
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>>694754596
I'm a of Amerifat
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>>694754557
anything can be repurposed for anything, but tools are made with a purpose in mind, and a gun's purpose is to kill.
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>>694750144
but the government has tanks
and drones with missiles
and aircraft that can drop a 1000lb bomb through your window
what is your ar going to do to an abrams tank?
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>>694747745
>>694753928
or to the guy living next to nignogs.

if by "no use" you mean "saving your life" then yeah, guns have no use.
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>>694744426
>someone ususes a gun to kill 50 people
>blame guns
>someone uses a truck to kill 80 plus people
>blame the person driving the truck
>someone uses an aeroplane to kill 2,900 people
>blame the govt.
>hurr durr
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>>694754850
Use his gun as a blunt force tool.
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>>694746092
You cant, actually. Fucking retard.
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>>694754660
>>694754006
>police
>understand the laws
i don't think you've ever had to interact with a police officer
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>>694754786
Move to France please.
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>>694754242
Ad hominim attack
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>>694754850

Who says civilians wouldn't be able to get such weapons? or that another country joins the war in favor of civilians? Think you fucking moron.
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>>694754821
or make small holes in you
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>>694746609
>Last time I checked slaughter houses don't use guns.
The Pulse in Orlando says you are wrong.
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>>694752468
There's some truth to this.

A pen's purpose is neither to draw a masterpiece nor a dick on a table, it's to release paint onto a medium.
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>>694753783
>How did gun control keep this from happening?

reduces the frequency of attacks. obviously guns can be had on the black market in France. But if they were as easily available as the US , France with an %8 Muslim population would be having two mass shootings a day.
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>>694754982
can I bring my cat and gun?
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>>694754850
My Ar will cause a roadblock as they wait for the EOD team to come collect the scary assault weapon. Then you shoot them with home made guns or blow them up with pool cleaning supplies.
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>>694754850
The govt has none of those things. The military, made up of American citizens that swore no oath to defend the federal govt, have those things. All the federal govt has is federal special agents. The only police to swear to protect the fed govt
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>>694744625
/thread
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>>694754821
Yea because weapons aren't fun to shoot for entertainment. Just use them to kill...
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>>694755251
That's it's function, what it does. Not its intended purpose.
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>>694755262

That doesn't matter, look at what happened yesterday in France, you dont need a gun to kill people.
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>someone kills people with a truck
>this person is a horrible person!
>how was it possible for them to get that vehicle? let's work on preventing potentially dangerous people from getting vehicles like that in the future
>"that sound reasonable"

>someone kills people with a gun
>this person is a horrible person!
>how was it possible for them to get that gun? let's work on preventing potentially dangerous people from getting guns like that in the future
>"HOW FUCKING DARE YOU, SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, MUH GUNS"

The biggest difference being that mass shootings happen all the time and the truck thing was a rare case.
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>>694753225
Why the fuck does it matter what trucks are designed to do? Does that make it worse when people are killed white them?

Does it not matter that 500+ Children drown in swimming pools annually, since swimming pools aren't designed to kill? That's more people than "Assault Weapons" kill each year.

Jesus fuck, you literally think 50 people getting shot is worse than 50 people getting run over.
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>>694755352
I'd rather put small holes in him
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>>694755516
Pew pew
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>>694755352
You can make music with a saw. That doesn't make a saw a musical instrument.
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>>694755122
You won't. If by some magical chance that all the US military were to 'enslave' civilians and make a 'policed state' you wouldn't stand a chance.
A single flying fortress can level an entire city in a matter of hours. What you gonna do, pew pew into the sky? Try and storm military compounds with pistols and hunting rifles?

Plus to add to how unlikely the military would turn on it's people is that they are set in place to make sure the government doesn't step out of it's bounds, if by some freak accident all of the government was wiped out, who is in the last line of defense? The military. They can say no to the president if they want.
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>>694753955
No not my mommy
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>>694748536
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>>694755467

What about bomb attacks? Those arent rare.
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>>694755403
So what's the intended purpose of a pen, then, if not releasing paint onto a medium?
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>>694755590
so much win
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>>694755607
Not him but I have mixed emotions about what you said.
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>>694744625
Are you implying that killing can't be justified?
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>>694755706
to produce a message that remains over time
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>>694744426
YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY THE ISLAMIC TRUCK OF TOLERANCE

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>>694755607

If the u.s were to use such weapons on civilians. The whole fucking world would be against them. Thats why the geneva convention exists.
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>>694755661
And when that happens, people investigate how they got bombs and work towards preventing it from happening again.

Not how it works with guns though.
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>>694754323
which liberal utopias would you be referring to, out of curiosity?

Also, I don't think that the claim that violent areas have tighter gun laws compared to peaceful areas really helps the argument against gun regulations. Areas that have high rates of violent crime (for whatever reasons) will obviously try to restrict access to guns: if two people are fighting and you want them to stop, for example, you do not give them weapons. However, more peaceful areas will be able to have looser gun laws because there are fewer violent crimes, but that doesn't mean that there is no risk
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>>694755601
The majority of weapons are never used to kill someone, the majority of ammunition goes into targets, not people. Wouldn't your rethoric let you arrive at the exact opposite conclusion you propose? If guns are predominantly used for entertainment, then using it to kill does not make it a killing maschine.
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>>694755471
The most amazing thing about you flag waving gun nuts is the fact that you are all brainwashed morons despite having no actual brain to begin with.
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>>694754850
Asymmetric warfare.

Look it up.
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>>694755895
So what you're saying is there is one need for the 2nd amendment?
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>>694755467
>thinking your efforts to remove the tools to hurt/ruin lives will work
>problem being the people who use them hardly focused on
im interested in how you guys will do as your leaders figure out opinions like yours are proving more and more costly and less and less ineffective
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>>694755607
>a single Flying Fortress
>you can't beat the U.S. Government with small arms
>imying the U.S. Would ever conduct drone strikes on their own people, at that point they've already lost.

There are a bunch of guys an Afganistan that would love you hear how they will never beat the U.S. Gov with only small arms.
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>>694755946
See
>>694754679
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>>694755935
Because when the first gun was in invented, or every time someone designs a new gun, they think to themselves. "now this is going to be a cool target shooting device", right?
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>>694755869
No. That's arguably the purpose of letters. A pen is merely a tool that is able to draw such a letter because of its intended purpose: Releasing paint onto a medium.
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>>694744426
u serious?
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>>694755946
I want you to do something for me.

Go online and find the number of times guns are used in self defense annually.

Find the smallest number you can.

Then reply to this post with that number.
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>>694755607
>I don't understand the basic concepts of guerrilla warfare and then proceed to talk like I even understand a microcosm of military strategy!

Yeah because the US military blowing up it's own infrastructure is a really good way to win a guerrilla conflict.
>>
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>>694756000
>Why own a fire extinguisher when the Fire Departmebt exists?

Shiggy diggy
>>
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>>694755869
-Hammer
Chizzle
Used to leave messages intended for long time,
-Hammer nails
-Hammer my dick in your butt.
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>>694744625
That doesn't mean ANYBODY should be allowed access to them.

Only let people mental-health checked people with special licences buy/own/drive cars.
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>>694756381
I love how you can both define the purpose of a pen, and ignore it I one sentence.

You may as well have said a keyboards purpose is to go clickety clack.
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>>694756592
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>>694754976
police officers have higher expectations of them than the average person, they are supposed to uphold the law, and they have training that the average person does not

If you're so concerned about the integrity of your police force, I think you should work on improving your police force rather than relying on the people on the street to dish out justice with a gun. In practice, a police force may be flawed, but in theory it is good, whereas easy gun access is flawed both in theory and in practice
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Congress needs to pass the TCL = Truck Control Law
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>>694756675
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>>694755903
That's an interesting take on the facts. I respect that. Let me give a different example. Kennesaw GA passed a city ordinance in the 80s stating that every household in the city was required to have at least one firearm(this was unenforced obviously) and as a result the violent crime and burglary rates dropped about 80% and are still holding steady to this day. If criminals think they're going to face an armed victim they are much more likely to either not do it or find a softer target.
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>>694756320
Given our knowledge of the history of science most military technology is repurposed inventions or research results. I don't think, for example, people working on more potent explosives think to themselves "yea, this is going to kill five more people than C4", it's more likely they say "Let's soo how strong an explosive we can produce".
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>>694756320
Of course anon. Unless you think that the thousands of gun designers in America think "WOW THIS IS GONNA KILL LOTS OF FUCKING BABYS WOOOO."

No, they design weapons that are accurate and reliable. Anything that that they are used for is outside their responsibility.
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>>694756765
How soon is too soon?
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>>694754850
Gee, the same things that worked so well against isis.
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>>694756477
>>694756254
It was an example of how powerful the military is. Not a likely scenario.
And Afghanistan could have been just like Iraq, completely obliterated in a week if the US wanted to do it.
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>>694756320
an item's purpose is what we attach to it, not what it was originally designed for. every saw in the world could be made with making music in mind, but because it's primarily used to cut things, its considered a tool for cutting.
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>>694744426
Most stupid argument ever.
Guns get blamed because they're way too easy to get.
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>>694756853
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>>694755467
Were you trying to make a point? Not one single person would think it's reasonable to give up trucks in any situation.

>preventing potentially dangerous
Care to tell what kind of criteria they would use to punish people that could be "potentially dangerous"? I mean all women are potentially dangerous drivers because they are more likely to get scared and maneuver like shit, so I guess all women can't drive trucks in your world, lol.
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>>694756756
>they have training that the average person does not

AHAHAHAHA

Oh man, you must be really sheltered if you believe that shit. Former LEO here, most of the guys in my precinct did the absolute minimum of the required firearms training which basically just made sure you can hit a man sized target at what might as well be point blank range and follow some of the most basic principles of firearm safety. Most of them were absolute morons when it came to firearms.
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>>694744426
OP is not a faggot today.
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>>694756896
Yeah an example that is completely invalidated by the fact they can't reasonably use it.

It's like saying "WELL THE MILITARY HAS NUKES" and completely ignoring the fact there is no way in hell they would ever use them.
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>>694756435
Not him but if he doesn't answer that stat is here in obamas gun study.

http://www.nap.edu/read/18319/chapter/3

That stat alone is the likeliest reason why the media was told to sweep it under the rug
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>>694757267
You're taking it to literal. stop being picky.
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>>694756756
In American you're more likely to be shot by a police officer than a law abiding citizen/Conceal Carry holder.
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>>694756669
>define the purpose of a pen, and ignore it I one sentence.
I didn't. What made you think I did? There might be the problem.

Also a keyboard's purpose is to handily organize a set of keys. Clickity clack has nothing to do with it. Damn man, you're horrible in identifying intended purposes, wow.
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>>694757267
Stop thinking logically
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>>694756937
Guns don't kill people. Vehicles do.
Maybe if all the fat asses had to ride bikes instead of a vehicles the top two killers of america would lessen
>#1 Heart Diease
>#2 car accidents
>#3 cancer
And if you kill yourself the 3rd can be elimanated
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>>694744426
Fuckin' Tonka Trucks.
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>>694748002

a machine designed to kill humans with. Handguns, assault rifles, fuckin ww2 era bazookas, anything that isnt a single shotgun or a bolt action hunting rifle or something like that was designed to murder humans with. Then unsurprisingly they get used to murder a lot of humans. That's why people think you should take them away from the people that cant be trusted with them.
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>>694744426

This post is right! We need to ban dangerous assault vehicles like these to protect our children!

Ban assault trucks everywhere!
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>>694744426
That's not a truck, it's a MAN
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>>694756896
>The U.S. Could have won in Afganistan
Yeah dude, just like The Soviets could have won.

Just like Israel will one day destroy all Palestinian terrorist

Just like the Kurds will eventually be defeated by Turkey.


Fuck off, you know absolutely nothing about asymmetrical warfare.
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>>694757898
Kek
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>>694755607
>A single flying fortress can level an entire city in a matter of hours.
And what is the military supposed to gain from that? It's a fact that people have been overthrowing their totalitarian governments throughout history, despite the disproportionate power of the governments they've succesfully overthrown. There is a certain point at wich a military isn't fighting for power, but for survival and if that point is reached they will inevitably surrender. Look at history.
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he got out and fired on them with a gun, thus causing many of the deaths
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>>694747745

>guns have literally no use
>guise

You should literally be shot with a gun. You are the reason guns were invented. To shoot you should you ever come into existence.
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>>694747433

We need this to be a meme. Any drawfag lurking?

>captcha: select all images with trucks
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>>694756381
pens can also produce messages that aren't in an alphabetic form, such as images or pictograms.

also the first pens were used to cut into clay tablets, no paint involved
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>>694757880
Hey man.

What did the police use to stop the guy driving the truck?
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>>694747745

Holy shit man,

Trucks don't kill people, people kill people. With trucks.
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>>694747232
What is feet? You do not need a truck. Try again fag
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>>694748766
>>694748812
>>694748717
What does the "kut" mean?
It's a rude word for a vagina over here...
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>>694747232
Do eurofags have no legs?
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>>694747808
At least i can have cancer without being indebted for the rest of my life
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>>694746092
Why are liberals allowed to use 4chan?
>>
Tumblr:
>kid killed by aligator
godamn white people
>islam kills 50 men at a gay bar
what the fuck is wrong with white people
>Man runs over and kills 50 people
Done with white people
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>>694758549
When more than half your population use scooter in the fucking wallmart I dont think this kind of comment can be taken seriously
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>>694758168
>also the first pens were used to cut into clay tablets, no paint involved
Those weren't pens, by very definition.

>pens can also produce messages that aren't in an alphabetic form, such as images or pictograms.
Exactly. That's my point, in fact, I've said exactly that earlier. Pens aren't indended to produce XYZ, they're intended to transport fucking paint onto a medium.

Also pens aren't able to produce messages, etc., people utilizing a pen are, which brings us back to the point that it's the people using the tools, not the tools intended purpose that results in death, art, whatever.
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>>694756320
>>694755601
>>694754821

what are you arguing? blame the first creators of guns hundreds of years ago. okay fine, but dont blame us from continuing to make guns. we have too. guns will always be around from now on, if we stopped making them it would only put us at a disadvantage against enemies that continued to make them.
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>>694756254
>small arms in Afganistan
lol
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>>694757127
even if they're shit, police officers are professional peacekeepers and law enforcers, and the average police officer is probably better equipped to wield a gun the average guy on the street

I dunno if you're responding in the context of the previous posts, or if you're just nitpicking, but the theory and principles of a police force are much better than justice as decided by whoever can buy a gun
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>>694758336
Guns, which they used to kill him. Because that's what guns are for. To kill.
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>>694749192
Does hunting wallets count?
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Switzerland is awash in real battle rifles, yet is remarkably low in murder stats.

Switzerland is also remarkably low on niggers and is solidly controlled by whites.

The cities with the highest crime rates in the US are infested with shitskins.
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Can I just throw a simple fact into the discussion against guns?

If you call the police, you're not calling them for what they are, but for what they bring: Weapons.

Literally the only reason to call the police is to overwhelm whatever threat you are facing and the only means by wich they do that are weapons. If the police didn't have weapons, you wouldn't need to call them when you're hiding in your closet from an armed robber.
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>>694757429
yeah, well which one is more likely to get called in to deal with violent criminals, ya dingus

also is that even true
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>>694748536
This. My son bought his first vehicle at ten, and drove it on private property for years, until I blew the engine.

When he got a license at 16, I had no worries about his driving.

Also, he'd been handling firearms, chainsaws, and computers since he could walk, so I made sure he knew how to use the most dangerous tools there are.

And if you don't think we need to know how to danger, you're cattle.
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>>694758839
I disagree. About half of gun owners spend more time at the range in a month then most police do in 10 years. So you tell me who would be more proficient
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>>694758725
I wasn't arguing one way or the other. I was just pointing out that guns are meant to kill. Trying to portray them as soft cuddly toys as part of a pro gun argument is simply disingenuous.
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>>694758880
So is a knife, don't see us banning them
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>>694758839
>average police officer is probably better equipped to wield a gun the average guy on the street

Not in my experience. Maybe in hyper liberal places like California and New York where the average person has an anxiety attack when coming into contact with a firearm.

Here in Georgia, the people I talked and conversed with at the public ranges were always more knowledgeable and safe with firearms than most of the guys at the PD. When you live in a place where guns aren't some sort of taboo, people generally have a tendency to want to learn and understand them better.
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>>694758839
Cops can only react. When my wife defended herself (without having to shoot them) against trespassing crackheads while I was deployed, the sheriff took a half hour to get there. He approved and told her if she had to cap someone to drag them indoors. That's a good cop!

Check the Kleck report. Most defensive gun uses don't involve firing.
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>>694759375
>>694759178
Both of these are 100% true
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>>694755946

yea, we can just ignore that suicide number, like i give a fuck if someone wants to take his or her own life, it's that person's fucking life
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>>694759264
True. But why can't pro gun fans admit that guns are meant to kill. I haven't once argued for or against gun control. Yet mentioning that guns are designed to kill gets all the problems gun fags pa ties in a knot.
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>>694759178
No shit. I got more personal range time than Air Force bi-yearly practice.
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>>694755607

Are you Fucking kidding?

Here at America freedom land, we can buy all the deadly assault trucks we need to fend off the government corruption and slay all them minoritys an Jew's.

Now over there, in britfag land, a man gets his hand on not even a high capacity assault truck, and mows down nearly 2,000 people! If your idiot government didn't disarm your police (the people protecting you) and force them to use light sedans to enforce the law!

It's like 90/11 all over again, and no one gives a shit

LEGALIZE ASSAULT TRUCKS IN AMERICA

#DONTLEAVETREADSONME
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>>694758144

I really hope some drawfag draws a few dozen guys about to be hit by a truck all drawing their trucks out of ass holsters
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>>694753634
Hello, I had to go outside.

Mostly yes, but also the cost of security on deliveries and the hassle of audits that had to be done, it was just easier to get rid of them.
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>>694758715
according to Tucker's examination of the Latin "pinna," the word "pen" comes the proto-Indo European *spei, meaning "a sharp point"

I won't argue against the other point since you're too dense to understand something perfectly obvious, but thought you might learn something
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>>694755961
>Asymmetric warfare

Fucking delusional, these kids.

You'd be stacked up against the most well funded and advanced military force in the world, with a massively developed intelligence infrastructure and ability to control and cut off resources to any part of the country with relative ease.

They wouldn't even have to fight you directly, they'd take down the power and water grids and cut off food supplies until all the wannabe revolutionaries tear each other apart from paranoia just like what happened with those mormon fucks in oregon earlier this year.

To top it off the insurgency wouldn't be in a foreign country surrounded by hostile states like Iran, it would be in the country where the military is established and integrated.
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>>694759546

I mean legalize assault trucks in Britain and not America, fuck
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YOU HAVE BEEN VISITED BY
THE ISLAMIC TRUCK OF
TOLERANCE

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>>694746092
You don't need a license to purchase a truck
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