>>692520040 Going to be commisioned as an officer in four months in the Navy. Any man who doesn't enlist or get his stem degree and join is a coward, pussy, dick sucking, kim jong un loving, ass filled with putin's dick faggot who hates his country.
>>692520040 I did and I can only congratulate to everybody that doesn't. It's a fucked up way to waste resources in an inefficient organization that is based on archaic principles and morales. The main problem with the military is, that it attracts A LOT of stupid and very stupid people. So unless you have an IQ of <90 you will feel like you are surrounded by idiots most of the time. There are certain branches that aren't that fucked up, but mostly they are and you will have to deal with them more often than you like.
>>692520521 So you are a fuckin hermit who makes his own clothes and food and provides himself with Internet on a homemade computer and walks everywhere is what you're saying? Or are you just talking out your ass
>>692520040 Got my ID with a generals name and phone number stamped on it. where is my fucking parade ? I see those faggots prancing around, known more than 30 people that were close to me death, they forgot about them just like the goverment forgot about me on operation phantom fury.
>>692521678 Too bad they won't lol. Get the fuck over it you're not doing anything noble you're a disposable asset for the military. Hahaha it's funny as fuck when people in the military think they're important
Commissioned as an Army Infantry Officer after 4 years of college, lib arts.
I hate jingoist militarism. I hate it because I used to identify with it. Flaunting quotes from Gates of Fire (still a great book) and random bits of Spartan ideology. College exposed me to critical and postmodern thoughts toward war. I watched Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, read War Is A Racket, 1984, Slaughterhouse Five, A Farewell to Arms, et cetera.
Felt ambivalent regarding supporting a military industrial complex. But hey. I'll be good at it, and I think actively combating ISIS can contribute positively in some way.
>>692521875 I'm not saying they're more important than you, just obviously tougher. Even your posts exude insecurity. If a stranger on the internet can tell you're a pussy just from how you type, I can only imagine what people must think of you in real life.
>>692520040 Because modern militaries are a fucking joke.... a bunch of fat-asses and stupid ppl acting as if they risked their life for their fellow citizens, while even 12yo kids understand that the military is only protecting economical interests. Also in a real international conflict these faggots would be dust 50minutes after the the war began since they'd be primary targets for intercontinental missles with nuclear warheads.
But tbh they didnt want to put me in a combat unit because i was in a mental hospital once and got charged because of mayhem a few times when i was a teenager and i didnt want to be an office person in an gouvernmental burocrazy lol.
>>692522182 I'm a pussy because I said you're not fighting for what you think you're fighting for? Lol sure whatever you say bud. I love the projection though it's funny as fuck keep it going maybe you can give me some new cringe material
>>692521831 Can Hook you up Bro no questions asked, you get payed hard cash. was in black water, arminia and know you can join just go to www shooterjobs com no questions asked just do your resume of when you were a soldier, they don`t give a shit if you have mental problems stuff like that. It is Private Security sometimes just a month overseas.
>>692521976 This. Being "the Marine guy" is sure cool for everyone that knows you when you are back home and tell your great stories about fighting close quarter stare into the eyes of your enemies. You can feel like Doomguy then.
But it also means you feel like Doomguy while doing it. And the chances are bigger that you won't ever tell your cool stories, because one of the enemies fucked you deep. There's no respawn in real life.
Another option is not to join. It's fucked up anyway. If you are enjoying it while doing it, then you are some sort of moron who deserves it. If you are somewhat normal and intelligent, then it is nothing you would wish to do or that feels good.
There is nothing glorious about war or the army. And if you think so, then propaganda already hit you hard.
>>692522856 everybody that has been in real combat doesn`t talk to other people that have not been in real combat their stories, just like alcoholics kept to yourself you only tell your combat stories with other people that have been through the hell you been through.
>>692522880 The ISIS ideology was there already. The people there have always been demented. Are you telling me sad dam was right for invading kuwait? And that the 30+ plus nations that backed the US during desert storm were wrong? Get the fuck outta here kid.
>>692523725 I wasn't the guy you were originally talking to. He's obviously trolling you and you're dumb as fuck to fall for it lol but sure keep on telling him how he's the dumb one. Christ what a sucker
Got asthma from air pollution like millions of others, for some reason you have to pass all the physicall training to fly a drone or drive a truck, pretty dumb since there are some great logistics/operators who can't join the army because asthma, even weak asthma...
>>692520040 Cause most wars and current battles are provoked by our own government. They trick weak minded teens into thinking they'll return a hero with all the video games. In war you experience horrible things and those poor bastards don't realize what they got themselves into.
i was in the military, i fucking hated it, i purposely fucked around and would sleep in until i got kicked out. best decision of my life. a year later the guys in my company got shipped out and 3 of them got fucked up. sometimes i feel bad about leaving but i also am pretty happy i have both my legs and arms and wake up to a pretty latina every morning.
>>692524040 Fair enough. I was born in 89 so I really didnt know anything at the time. I have to disagree. I think saddam was hell bent on power and chaos. Especially during the turmoil with the Soviet union.
Look how he acted following 9/11. He was trying to destabilize the US in anyway he could because we limited his power grabs.
>>692520040 1. I have a brain 2. I went to college 3. I have a well paying job 4. My job doesn't require dodging bullets and explosives set off by sand niggers 5. I don't have to answer to moron commanding officers shouting incoherent things at me 6. I own a comfortable home in the 'burbs - I don't have to live a tent in the desert 7. I actually pay taxes, not live off of other taxes 8. I didn't have to join a military who's sole purpose is to protect oil fields and fight wars to protect rich fags investments
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>>692523375 Because it is traumatic. Because you learn there, that it is nothing to brag about. Because losing a friend or being in existential fear is nothing you can feel great about.
But it isn't traumatic before you join. And a lot of people don't think of that, or can actually refer to what it means before joining. The military sells it as a glorious thing to you, that will give you appreciation from your society. It (often) tricks people into doing it that feel they can't do something that "matters" in their everyday life.
The feeling if you lose a comrade when you were responsible for him. The planlessness of all the people around you when bad shit happens. The moment you realize you can't do shit about it and he's dead. 21 years old and fucking dead. It's not worth it. Whether you are the guy dying, or you are the guy next to the guy dying.
If someone want's to get that feeling, sure, go. But all I can say is: Don't do it. You won't be happier. And you can do better things for your society at home.
New Zealand has no international obligation to wage war. Nobody expects us to help unless Australia gets involved and when do they ever do fucking anything? And besides that, who is going to invade this country anyway?
I did. Joined army, 11B in 2004. It was full of retarded rednecks and ghetto trash niggers with a handful of decent, upstanding soldiers. If anyone here is considering joining the military, consider something other than the Army. It's full of garbage people.
But some things are worth fighting against. And ISIS, and the things it does to people, are worth fighting against. Its the closest thing to what I would call 'evil' in this world... I wish I was young enough to join up and fight against them.
They fucking cook people and laugh. Slit throats and laugh. Run helpless people down with tanks... drown them... throw them off buildings.
>>692520040 I would have. Got the highest score out of anyone at my school that year on the ASVAB. Had each branch calling me twice a day. Had the papers all filled out and ready to sign per my army recruiter. Then 9/11 happened and I was like fuck that shit. Graduated in 03 during the Iraq blitz or what the fuck ever was happening. I was glad I didn't enlist then. But now looking back I feel like I would've done great in the military. I wish I hadn't been such a huge pussy.
Im lazy and skinny, don't feel like getting yelled at by a glorified babysitter, don't feel like eating bad food and getting treated like shit just so I can learn how to handle weaponry, which Im already quite good at, atleast as far as hunting and gun range fun times are considered
Oh and I also have an education and job so I actually have something better to do
>>692526246 Yeah. I know. I think about it a lot now that I'm in my 30s and wish I had. Past is past tho. I wouldn't have mattered. I'd probably be dead or all ptsd ridden and might've not met my wife and had my son. He's all that matters now.
>>692520040 im 27 and have been working a desk job for 6 years now. im physically fit and can do pushups for days. my only downfall is my endurance when it comes to running, ive smoked for most of my life and just quit recently. im wondering if its to late for me to join and if not what distances i should be prepared to run before i join.
>>692525294 My military trained senses tell me, that this is a decoy. But anyway:
If you refer to dying comrades as
Then you are exactly the kind of people I was referring to. It's basically a place made for you and all alike. And I suggest everyone with empathy not to do it, so they don't interfere with the party you guys have there.
The problem is that all the propaganda mostly gets people that are empathic, like you anon: >>692525831
Morally speaking you are right. And my assault rifle in my garage tells me that there is a good reason it has been made. But pulling the trigger infront of some crazy guys doesn't change the world. It's a way more complex system and at the end of the day I am 100% sure that if you use that empathy and morales in your everyday life and try to change the fucked up stuff right where you are, you will be much more successfull and doing much more good than what you could do in some desert on the other side of the planet.
There are so many fucked up things probably right in your neighborhood that you could actively change. Look at all the homeless. The children. Old people. Handicapped people. Lonely people. I believe that we all have a responsibility in the society we live in. But being an active part in a warzone is probably one of the least productive to way to spend our energy and life.
>>692525831 >implying isis would ever have been founded if you wouldnt supply islamistic warlords with weapons and even airstrikes to attack a pro-russian nation for their ressources. Maybe you didnt notice, but a few years ago you guys were saying assad was the new hitler and violently supressing a revolution....you guys supplied the free-syrian army or how this shitheads were called. Then you pushed your fucking agenda further until russia decided to get involved, when you bailed out. The free syrian army couldnt exist without your support, since nobody in syria actually wanted that revolution. At that point assad was gaining power again because of russian support and the guys who fought for a "free secular syria" or something like that suddenly decided to join their only left allies... the islamistic syrian rebelorganisations like isis. Now the new hitler is fighting isis with russia and your media-jews dont know what to say about that shit. Lmfao
>>692520040 No real threats to us that the military can do shit about, don't want to be a corporate goon, I prefer to earn my living instead of living off the government dime and pretending I'm some kind of hero.
>>692527647 History never changes. Hasn't anyone of you guys seen Rambo III? Watch this scene: https://youtu.be/VqWjJdXKIXA
That's been what Mudjahedeen have been referred to at the time. The quran and their Jihad was so useful at that time, that the US supported it by glorifying it. Oh how the tables have turned... Same shit with all the dictators down there.
>they need democracy >we need to remove dictator y,x,z for good
all that ever happened was leaving behind a destabilized region.
Was Hussein bad? sure. But he and his consorts were the best thing in controlling the uncontrollable. Open the box of pandora and you are handed the most evil of them all:
>>692527903 If you want an adventure, why not just do the same shit by motorcycle? When you are suicidal enough, go to Vietnam and drive until you are dead. The north is beautiful. Absolutely stunning. And the roads are totally deadly. Buy a Ducati or CBR or so to make it quicker if you feel like it
>>692528315 Because the miles you can run are in no way correlated to your actual preparedness. They will find a spot for you where you fit in, no matter if you run 5 or 35 miles. But if RUNNING MILES are what you are concerned about, then you are NOT prepared to do it.
If you enlist: Think about me when you are on your first mission, and how you thought running was the preparation you needed.
i've been training to join the infantry for the last few months.
went from 130kg to 91kg in three months, been sprinting and shit every day to get my fitness up.
only reason im doing it is because i got some inbred redneck buck toothed fuck hole slut pregnant when i was stoned and drunk. if they're going to take my money im certainly not going to earn heaps. ill join the army so i dont have to be around that fucking slutty cunt or her fucking dumbshit family. hopefully they'll send me off to Iraq 2.0 and i'll get my head blown off.
>>692531633 No, I mean I want to kill myself. I'm scandinavian and also a weeb - if I stab myself in the gut and then shoot myself I'll not only die honourably, but have a 50%/50% chance of going to Valhalla. I mean, why not?
>>692520040 If you are not a poor, ignorant yes man and you become a soldier or a policeman i have to question if you are just waiting for your moment to murder someone. Classically most sociopaths with homicidal desires tend to place themselves in military service to have am outlet to legal shoot and stab people
I tried to enlist 4 years ago when i was 22. australian defense force. my three preferences were Rifleman, Rifleman, Rifleman.
Psych test showed leadership potential, so my recruiter convinced me to apply for officer selection. didn't have any schooling past grade 8. ADF got me to sit maths, english and science tests for grades 9, 10, 11 and 12. failed the years 12 maths test. told to reapply as rifleman.
suddenly i just didn't give a fuck anymore. i didn't want to go into the army with "failed officer selection" on my file. so i just gave up the dream.
>>692533167 I either want to do it on broadcast/stream, or record myself in a secluded place. Only issue is that I want to make sure someone dipraved et.c. gets it and uploads it to 4chan, bestgore and so on... I mean, if I record it I actually want you fucks to see it lol
And I want the personal satisfaction of having done that journey in my lifetime before my death.
Grunt corpsman here Fucking military sucks giant green cock unless you go to war. Otherwise its like being on a football team practicing everday but you never play a game. If there's no war don't join unless you go officer route.
>>692529677 just like i thought, nonsense. my concerns are legitimate, i was looking for some information on what level of endurance i should strive for before i join, instead you gave me some cryptic bs about physical training not having anything to do with preparedness. i simply stated that my weakest point in the potential physical requirements i will be met with at entry level is endurance in running, your response not only gave me zero information of value but also made groundless assumptions. im guessing you do this allot in life, its probably why you're widely disliked by others.
>>692532913 This is so ignorant. Most sociopaths do not do well in the military because they have serious problems integrating with a team and following orders. Most receive dishonorable discharges or are kicked out for adjustment issues before they even deploy.
>>692520040 I was too autistic to understand militaristic obedience until I was too old to join. Plus I have a few minor but pertinent health problems that (and I understand it) would have disqualified me anyway.
>>692533878 As far as physical requirements, It would depend on the branch. If you can do 35 push-ups in 2 minutes and 47 sit-ups under 2 minutes and 10 or more pull-ups, as well as running two miles in no more than 16 minutes and 36 seconds.... you'll be well prepared.
But what the guy said is true as well... Its not just doing the physical stuff. Can you do it with blisters all over your feet? While Cold/wet/hungry?
>>692534149 I did mention homicidal tendencies. Just a plain sociopath doesn't mean you kill people but believe you are above most and therefore not subject to their rules and regulations. Someone who wants to murder motherfuckers legally would gravitate towards only a few number of professions. Pro tip! Just because someone seems sane and not homicidal just means that is how they want to be perceived. Manipulation is also a trait of highly functional homicidal sociopaths.
>>692533377 Believe me, if you record it and dedicate it to 4chan, then until the ond of this board you will be mentioned in every rekt thread plus in dedicated thread specifically made to glorify you. I have been long enough on this board to even imagine how the conversations go. You will be the valhalla master of their wet rekt-dreams. All you have to do is setting up a livestream through an app, put it live, post the link here, get enough people into the thread (bump with rekt gifs) and fucking do it.
>>692535110 kek, I'll keep that in mind. I'll have some sort of sign with me et.c. to make sure it's what makes my suicide "famous". >valhalla-master I mean, that'd be quite the legacy Also, I'd be the first to commit harakiri since .. the 70's, I think
>>692533878 thanks for the autistic pycho analysis. I'm used to let people think for themselves before giving them technical orders and suggestions. What you are looking for is about a 45 seconds of googling away from you.
This guy was kind enough of giving you uncryptic suggestions:>>692534686
What I meant as well was: can you do it while in fear?(PS: if you think you are the fearless motherfucker that rambo is in his movies, you are not prepared) Can you prioritize well in stress situations? (real stress, not some college paper work deadline shit) Do you really fucking know what the hell it means to sit in a helicopter and being flown to a fucking shoot out with some crazy towelheads?
Since your most important question was how many miles you should be able to run, my best guess on the last answer is no.
but that's fine, most branches wouldn't exist if people knew what they enlist for.
>>692520040 >tried to join millitary >scored high af on asfab >went for physical, perfection in all things except eyesight >long story short doctors say i have 3 more years before literal cane and dog blind from optic nerve degredation Whats your excuse?
Because I remember the Somme, and will not be lead to my death by career men.
In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the Dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Take up our quarrel with the foe: To you from failing hands we throw The torch; be yours to hold it high. If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep, though poppies grow In Flanders fields. Bravest amongst us all.
i did and promptly washed out...long story short, dont join unless you are absolutely sure you want to commit 8 years of your life to it. also, fuck hypocritical scumbags who abuse their positions in order to prove some retarded useless point to try and ruin others lives.
>>692520040 Because I'm not dumb op Because I don't like killing unless it's in self-defense Because I'm not trying to die for something that's really stupid Because I provide value to my family alive, not dead Because I like being involved in world events as a neutral party acting in the best interests of humanity Because I don't like doing things that I don't think I should be doing Because if I know someone is a racist dumb pig, I don't usually follow orders well Because I'm not trying to participate in an environment that encourages unnecessary violence and lack of consciousness
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