I have passed up a few girls who were 7+ because they were boring/stupid/cunts. Men have lower standards (on average) and women have higher standards (on average). If you want to blame anyone blame the male brain.
>>685014987 >>685014987 You don't have to be a 7 to get a girl. You just have to have game. I'm a 4 or 5 in debt and am still married to my ex and I got a new 7 of 10 that went to college and is a teacher.
>>685014987 a 7/10 guy to a woman is like flicking between 1000 tv channels. A woman may well like whats on the current channel but there might be something better on the next. The ouroboros approach to finding a man.
>>685014987 Yeah women have it easy in the western world no matter how much they wanna complain. Be 6/10 or more, just take basic care of self, be presentable and literally money and a comfortable life will fall into their laps. It's pretty ridiculous what a vagina can buy
it can go both ways. im a 6/10 guy at best, but i found a 5/10 girl that makes almost 6 figures, owns her own house, where i live rent free, she bought me a 1500 dollar PC. all the money i make when i work i just spend on myself (and her, but not nearly as much). She loves me and her biggest complaint is i dont let her suck my dick enough. She genuinely loves the taste of my cum. Life is pretty good.
>>685017105 Degrade them casually, then shower them with love so they think you still care. Let them know you care, and that others don't. (Or not as much as you.) Lower their self-esteem, and just in general knock them down a peg, and lift them back up artificially. Get them to believe that you are their best option, and that you love them. Once they believe that, you're in.
>>685014987 >we guys have to be > 7/10, cool, interesting, $$$$, etc
Not entirely true. I am 5/10 at tops, no $$$, no etc, etc. But I have had some very beautiful girlfriends for shorter or longer time. And I mean model or filmstar beautiful, or more beautiful than that. Never had any probs get to know them, and ultimately charming their pants off. Could be that I show that I am am interested in her and enjoying her company all the time.
People who have sex a lot put a lot of effort into having sex.
Most average people go through stretches where they are single.
A neckbeard whose on /b/? Yeah, you're not getting laid as much as the average. A normal dude has some semblance of vice control, hair/body management, choice of clothing, and an interest in women generally. They like people and talk to them a lot, participate in social media, and work toward attracting quality mates.
You're not gonna do the time unless you do the crime, or hit the lottery.
Not true. I'm not that hot. Probably a 5/10. But I've fucked over a hundred girls. It's all about location. I'm from kentucky. I have an accent. Here, I have to work a little to fuck a girl. I found that being an asshole but in a funny way works the best. But if I go anywhere else, it's instalay. I went to new Jersey for about a year. I was fucking a different hot girl every single 3 days. All I had to do was talk. Bitches were all the time talking about my accent, where am I from etc. Didn't matter that I'm ugly. All that mattered is my accent.
This is the correct answer. You have to be around women. You have to behave in a manner where women feel good in your presence. It helps if you actually like women.
All PUA websites do is teach you how to fake these behaviors if you don't actually like being around women. If you do it enough, you're able to trick women occasionally. But wait! If you do actually follow their advice, you're out talking to women all the time anyway! You might as well actually be an enjoyable person rather than a fuckwit.
If you don't actually like women or don't feel like putting in the effort, then just buy a fleshlight and enjoy your extra money and free time. If a women is nothing more than a walking fuck hole to you anyway, what's the difference? Shame? Shame is for people who think other people care what men do with their time. Women care, and society believes men should spend their time on women. Buy in or don't.
>>685018501 As long as you don't look like inbred redneck trash, they fucking love it. I mean. I once said ice. And this bitch from two tables away immediately came to me and ended fucking me in her Lexus later that night
>>685018834 Smaller girls are the ones who tend to like tall guys. Tall girls actually use their tallness as an excuse to go for tall guys. I've only ever met ONE girl who actually liked my height and was into short guys. Bad part is that she was only into white guys.
>>685018579 This isn't true. I like to tease and be an asshole. I once told a girl to her face at the bar she could stand to lose 15 lbs. I fucked her that night. Idk what it is. My friends watch me and don't understand how I can be a complete dick and still fuck. Women are fucking retards and want to be put in their olace. Or they think that I'm an asshole and they can fix me given some time. Idk. I really don't know what it is but it's always worked for me.
>>685019492 See, I don't really know what to think anymore. Everyone on the internet says different shit. Some say show interest in HER, and not the pussy. Meaning having a casual conversation with her, leading things on. Then others say to make your intentions clear when you start talking to her. Don't let her friendzone you, etc. Then other fags say to degrade them, talk shit about their insecurities, and they'll be in your bed in no time.
>>685020434 I'm pretty confident, but I acknowledge that my face is pretty unattractive. There's nothing I can do about it, so I accepted it. I'm fine with myself now.
The thing that fucking kills me is how I'll never fuck or be in a relationship with a cute, sexy, freaky girl. Most of the girls I fuck I'm barely attracted to and in relationships most of the attraction comes from their personality.
Well, sometimes making a woman feel good isn't buying her flowers or telling her she looks nice.
Most of the time they just want attention... more importantly, they want to *win* attention, from men. The asshole jerk thing works sometimes... if you act cocky, they think "man this guy acts like he can do whatever he want, maybe he can, and he's paying attention to me." You make them feel good, so they want to get their hooks in.
It happens to me a lot at bars, as well. I once got the number a girl who was waiting for her boyfriend at a bar. I was interested in getting drunk, and she wanted me to pay attention to her, and when I did... she got her hit. A bit of joking and teasing later, and I'm pulling her out of her date.
That's what I mean when I say "liking women". You have to know their game and appreciate when they want to play it. Then, you're a fun guy who "just gets it". If you a fumbly socially awkward apologist, they don't want to play with you.
There's nothing to be afraid of. Yes, sometimes you'll go overboard and a chick will think you're creepy, but as long as you don't cross into molestation it's all part of the game, and nothing will come of it. I've seen a woman sympathize with a Chad who came off as a creeper twenty times before I've seen one empathize with a man who gets no play because he's too mild mannered. That's why the net is full of "nice guy" bashing. It's backwards... by being nice, sometimes you are being a creepy weirdo. Gotta get in the game.
>>685019492 you're confusing being an asshole with displaying confidence. You can keep being a dick, sounds like it's working, but it's the confidence that the girls are seeing that is helping you fuck.
To anyone else: Unless you're a 10/10 model/athlete/millionaire, girls value confidence above EVERYTHING else. Don't listen to what they say they like or are looking for - females are driven by emotion, not logic or reason, and what they "want" in any given moment defines what they see as truth. That isn't meant to be sexist, guys are weird in their own ways as well. If you're not confident, faking it works - be friendly, funny, but remain aloof and always act like you have shit going on. Dates, fun shit, etc. Lie if you have to, and don't be a beta orbiter. Girls want guys that other girls want, so you need to act like you're that guy.
Good looking guys have it easier, but there's enough on the internet that shows that it's still possible.
Yeah, girls do sometimes just look at a guy and then try to fuck him. Hell, it's happened to me a few times and I'm below average. You *could* put in the work to get to the point where it happens sometimes, as long as you have some working limbs.
You have to fix your attitude, too. 95% of the time a woman is not shopping for a fuck, so they'll treat you like shit if you let them. Just don't.
Everyone has something going for them. Maybe not looks or hobbies, but good friends and family, a job they do well at, some hobbies. Focus on those things, bring them forward in your personality. Why dwell on the shit? Just focus on what matters. People will look at you differently, even if all you do is talk about My Little Pony.
If someone treats you like a cunt, maybe they're having a bad day, or they're superficial, or they have their own shit going on. It's not even worth the time, just let it roll off and worry about the shit that matters. You'll look like you're having fun. You'll act "passionate" about the things you care about. Your attention will be focused on the good in life. Women love nothing more than to try and inject themselves into that.
>>685022794 rejection is totally normal, tho. Yeah, it sucks, but it's a part of life (for anything, really) and once you can get past that it helps a lot. Girls can reject you for millions of reasons - they don't think much of it and neither should you. In fact, a girl who sees you confidently shrug off a rejection can get you some points later on. The best idea is to take it like "oh, ok". and that's IT. No sulking, no begging, no settling on being friends (lol). You want to give off the impression that it's no big deal, and like I said, it's not a big deal to them.
if you're letting rejection destroy you than you're already not displaying the right kind of confidence that is attractive. Even if you really can't handle it, suck it up and fake it. The rest will fall in as you go.
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