>>683612366 No, you can't have your cake and eat it to. You can't claim you're a feminist and expect equality while at the same time expect special privilege and circumstances. It's like the people who say they believe their holy religions bible book, but then think they know better and ignore parts they dislike. You're not ACTUALLY a feminist/christian/jew then.
>>683611621 anti third wave feminists first wave feminists: get right to votes second wave: equal rights third wave: bitch about stupid shit because almost all of the legal and social goals of actual feminists have been met
>>683611621 they don't say that because you're a woman, they say it becaus you'ree a hot woman. it's fucking banter. guys jokingly give eachother shit too if they know a flaw or something that stands out about you. don't make it about gender just because you don't know how people work.
gonna be 100% real here for a bit >be me, as a young child >get sexually abused by female babysitter, raped by neighbor's friend >grow up fucked. socially inept, gynephobic to a degree, couldn't really talk about it until i was already an adult >went off to college, therapist suggests i go to an offcampus support group for rape/sexual assault victims >as soon as i get there, the lady working the front desks says "what are YOU doing here?" (cishet white male oppressor btw) >tell her that my therapist recommended i come, should be self explanatory >says something under her breath, but tells me what room they're going to be in (i was a few mins early) >wait til it's 5 minutes from the start time, go in and find a seat >only male, getting fucking death glares from all the women there >the session starts, as soon as the woman running the thing asked for opening remarks/hellos/introductions a few women speak up >all demand i leave, saying i'm just there to mock them or whatever the fuck >stupidly, i tried to defend myself. it was fucking awful, since i just started talking about it and already have a fear of crowds >a few laughed, i got called a liar, a couple said "GOOD!" when i mentioned the rape >this is fucking shameful, but i was a grownass man and i was so fucking close to crying then and there >heckled as i walked out of the room i ran into almost every single one of the same people at feminist/gender equality/social justice rallies that would be held pretty frequently at the center of campus. fuck them, they don't give a shit about anyone but those who fall into line with their bullshit. they use their position as "oppressed" minorities to be the same racist, sexist assholes they're raging against.
>>683612851 >third wave: bitch about stupid shit They want superiority. Not that they can ever actually agree on a final win condition, a common goal they're working for. It's just endless "give us what we want" and then when they get it "okay now give us this" They get to hide behind "feminism" because most people still associate it with seeking equality, while simultaneously getting special treatment.
>>683611621 >guy goes into a job >gets called a name >he lets it get to him >it shows >every single time he goes into work the other guys call him the name that's how it's supposed to work. They're treating you like an equal, they'd do it to anybody else. Either it's about being treated the same as everybody else, or it's about being treated special, you cannot have both.
People don't actually need feminism anymore. It's over, they won, they have votes and equal rights. There's nothing left to be equal in. We share water fountains and have separate bathrooms. If you can call yourself a feminist without getting your hand chopped off? You don't fucking need feminism.
>>683613405 do you actually work together with women? they are jobs that fit women, anything that involves talking to people, but apart from that they are just not capable and constantly ask coworkers for help.
>>683615790 Low hanging fruit? You've never worked in construction, have you? She wants to think herself lucky that's the worst she's heard. They're probably holding back because she's a special little princess.
>>683615707 Just by looking at the avatar in that pic I can tell the person is a pussy. Enlisting in the military should have been made mandatory for women years ago in every country. If you're going to reap the benefits of living in society, you had better be ready and able to protect that place and even die for it.
>>683615929 Stating shit could get far worse and more sexually threatening isn't really making the case that everything's fine.
I agree she should expect people being crass, and she'd be better off learning to backtalk than running towards feminism, but I also think it's a problem women are often immediately sexually approached in those lines of work.
>>683615410 Look at the girl. Sure, she has the face protector and gloves, but that doesn't mean shit. Look at her fucking hair, "I'm definitely a welder, I just love the smell of fire on my hair" her clothes, "I better wear this fuzzy, flammable clothing so I can look good, not do my job" and her fucking makeup "I wanna look pretty, not do my job." If I was hiring a welder, she'd be on the bottom of my list.
>>683611621 When I was attending my welding school we had a few girls there to, every single one of them except for one big butch dyke were learning to weld so they could make "art pieces", the dyke was doing it along with mechanical engineering classes because she wanted to become a custom car builder, I had max respect for her, the other women were a fucking waste of space.
>>683616292 >immediately sexually approached When your brain does the thing where every single interaction is treated like a come on, and you twist every single thing said into the worst possible way it can be taken? It'd be maddening, I'd be triggered all day long, feeling like a piece of sexual meat good thing i'm a guy and know that's not what they meant and my brain doesn't automatically jump to the worst possible conclusion friend said i looked cute, and i knew it was because i had a pink shirt. he wasn't being serious, he was making fun of me, it was a joke at my expense, not a come on.
>>683616626 >No one is retarded enough to believe women aren't entitled to a comparable quality of life with the same rights as males. Actually, I believe that. I think 99% of them are pieces of shit, scum of the earth, and that 1% that might actually not be so terrible? Doesn't make up for the rest. Kill them all.
>>683617464 That experience opened my eyes. In the jury with us we had a white, high-middle class hamplanet SJW college student. She wanted guilty all the way cause muh feels. 2 old faggots who wanted the same cause we must protect women. Only me and a black woman were not fooled by the lying cunt.
you dont think guys deal with that too? you made the choice to enter our domain, if you want to survive there start making fun of them in the worst possible way, and they will respect you. start by picking on the weakest or the strongest one. Or you can be morally correct and just feel sry for all of them.
>>683616325 >because women go home at 5 >because women will take leaves for the most bullshit reasons >because when women are pushed to perform they buckle and quit >because women never truly care about anything without whoring for attention >because women will not produce results when they are absolutely necessary for a cause
>>683618115 No, it's because men hold out or negotiate for more pay. The apparent wage gap is based on skewed numbers. The starting wage for a job is the same for both men and women, but because of previous reasons men make more. Men demand reviews for their performance in hopes of getting a raise in pay.
>>683618441 And then it will go to shit because there won't be any men to do the work women have comfortably and contentedly enjoyed being exempt from because they have a pussy. Have the world, but you won't be able to enjoy it.
>>683618344 Like in the earlier days of the internet, not when it started but a few years after when forums and chat rooms started up. You got on the internet, and you're like "I enjoy...paintball" and then you looked up paintball, probably found a forum and signed up to talk to other guys. There may or may not have been some elitists, or people didn't take you seriously, you just stuck around and eventually fit in.
Girls never have had to do that, especially on the internet. They just don't know what it takes to become a part of something and to not be immediately accepted and accommodated. It's so foreign to them so it probably hurts them more when they're told to shut up, that they don't know what they're talking about, and that they're a fag.
>>683618420 You are an idiot. The "Women get paid X% less than men" is based on averaging all female income against all male income without considering that a barista doesn't make as much cash as someone working on an oil derrick. Men tend towards nastier jobs that pay more. So on average they make more. With in a specific field women will make as much as their male counterparts or more (In IT they certainly make more as there are quotas to be filled and not as many women want to be computer nerds. Supply and demand)
>>683618821 Yes, and to the people who said it. It's not ball achingly funny, but it's a different environment when you're with a buddy and he says something slightly funny. I doubt even anybody would have laughed out loud, but that doesn't mean it's NOT funny.
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