>>683425320 losing what? i love how white trash have no idea how primaries work. if every single person who voted for him in the primaries votes in the general election for him, we're talking like maybe 15% of the vote.
>>683425827 >https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/02/republicans-have-a-massive-electoral-map-problem-that-has-nothing-to-do-with-donald-trump/ thats a scary thought anon so now we dont even have a two party system no checks and balances t oeven out the bullshit both parties try to pull
>>683425058 Maybe so, but the Republican party has become a sideshow over the last four decades. Hopefully this strife can help them refocus the party and get back to pragmatic, analytical thought processes.
Don't blame Trump for this, this is a party problem, he's just the most noticeable symptom.
>>683425875 Those stories have been around for months. You're just upset that facts might hurt your orange-meme-man.
>>683426438 >Those stories have been around for months. You're just upset that facts might hurt your orange-meme-man. not even close, i dislike trump and dont want him in office, but your not evening going to admit the timing of this is suspect as fuck? the man has been a presence in the media and tv for a very long time and is rich as fuck, but somehow this allegations only pop up now? far to convenient for my taste
It's no wonder you're so stubborn. You barely have your head above the sand.
inb4 having to defend infowars, which is a shitty publication to say the least, but god damn if you can't distinguish between the "mainstream media" and fucking infowars then you must really not be that attentive and probably aren't that seriously attentive to politics and the election season right now.
>>683426651 who would be your choice? Ryan? Id love that to but honestly enough of the rightwing majority is so brainwashed they will vote for the main republican candidate no matter whos name is there sadly im afraid we will just split the vote and let killary win by a bigger margin
Nobody gives a fuck about what a "true" conservative is anymore. If you think that somebody is a person like Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, or Ted Cruz then that is why you don't understand why the only "true" conservative-types are marked by natural selection for extinction. Nobody gives a fuck about social conservatism and most of us are tired of propping up people that lose because they're so invested in exactly that.
>>683427035 I didn't read the article, but I thought you were conflating the efforts of the MSM with infowars. I can definitely read, bruh. Calm down. We both probably care about the same things so let's not devolve into a shit-flinging contest.
It's not just that, though. Directly wooing the cynical, corporate effort at social engineering that is the TEA party was a terrible decision too. They've deliberately courted ideologues in place of a pragmatic core in the party. It's been bad decision after bad decision because the core of the party, the "hawks" have remained for the most part the same. It's been filibusters and embarassment for the last seven years in particular, they've become the petulant children of politics.
Once the GOP flushes the toilet and jiggles the handle a few times they will get back to not being a joke.
>>683427488 If that's all you have you haven't been paying attention. Not just the social wedge issues of abortion, guns, race, gender issues; Trump also has problems with the left on immigration, domestic freemarket, NSA spying, torture, and civil rights abuses.
>>683425058 >Hillary Clinton has been attending Bilderberg meetings for years >Bilderberg will show up as incorrect on your spell check >I knew Hillary was going to be president before anyone even knew she was going to run >Your election is invalid. It doesn't matter what you think or want faggot, or anyone else in this thread, we're all just goyim meat monkeys >goyim is incorrect on your spell check also
>>683430282 Trump is smart. He knows the only constituency stupid enough to vote for him is the conservative base. All he had to do was speak at a 4th grade level and throw out some simple lines about building a wall and now he has the low IQ segment of the country wrapped around his finger.
>>683431093 Romney ran mostly unopposed, Santorum wasn't getting nearly as many votes as romney. Trump is still getting more votes Romney even with his Cruz competition. >>683431243 Trump is near the sum of voters that Romney and mccain had during their run. Face the facts neckbeard liberal, people love Trump.
>>683427131 sounds like you shuoldn't be supporting the republican party at all. why are you? this is why i say we need a purge. get everyone unregistered as republican who vote for trump. this pandering has to stop.
>>683425058 that nigger was fucked from the beginning he's a joke he ran just to prove that GOPers were fucking dumb it's gonna be the defeat of the century, he's gonna beat Walter Mondale's record defeat
>>683431588 what proof? i posted it because i thuoght the guy would enjoy reading it, sicko that he is. there is proof that a lawsuit was filed, not that it was true. even if trump loses the lawsuit or pays it off that wouldn't necessarily mean it was true.
>>683431809 So people vote for the guy that says "free shit" to get votes. Guess what kinds of people like "free shit" by the govenment? Oh right, niggers, teenagers, mexicans, immigrants, muslims. Guess who gets screwed over? White people with jobs. The working class.
>>683432000 I'm not surprised they're more things in common between the Establishment of the GOP and Clinton than between the Establishment and Trump plus Hillary isn't going to be the most radical POTUS ever
>>683432266 florida is the only number that even comes close to being meaningful in this meme. it's also very telling that they've only chosen these states. if trump gets 100% of vote in every one of these states he still won't win.
Who cares what the Conservatives want? They had their chance twice with candidates they loved, and proved that Conservatives alone can't win. For every conservative that hates trump there's another independent and/or another frustrated liberal who would vote for him. People who wouldn't vote otherwise are going to go out and vote for a candidate they can finally feel passionate about supporting instead of just settling for the lesser of two terrible choices.
The main election hasn't really even started yet, Trump has barely had the time to really tear into Hillary. She is going to be annihilated in the debates - this is the woman who was scared to debate Bernie fucking Sanders, Trump will have a field day with her.
Maybe Trump is just pandering and saying what the majority of voters wants to hear, but who cares - Obama did the same thing and it was enough to get him elected twice. Trump has a very real shot at winning, and don't let CNN/MSNBC convince you otherwise.
>>683432294 >Establishment of the GOP and Clinton That's the argument they made Clinton is very much establishment so she won't do much damage or changes to long standing institutions so even 4 or 8 years of Hillary won't matter but 4 or 8years of trump could do lasting damage
The whole story of Trump raping a girl is the first smear coming from the Clinton campaign.
First, this was brought up in California, where you don't need to have a lawyer to bring a lawsuit forward. No actual lawyer would get behind this.
We know this is a preemptive attack because one of the greatest weapons Trump has in his back pocket for Clinton is the connection to Jeffery Epstein. They put it out to muddy the waters so he couldn't as easily bring it up. They are playing scared.
Trump was in the Jeffery's black book, his daughter even flew on Jeff's private jet. Some have speculated something went down on that and Trump wants blood.
>>683432046 he's a populist and a demagogue so he can't stick to Conservative principles the way traditional GOP candidates did before he needs to follow the zeitgeist to stay relevant abortion and trans rights aren't the priorities of the common people, they want jobs, they don't want more immigrants who can't speak proper English, they want a better future and to feel strong in a dominant country
>>683432886 maybe it's a smear but it isn't clinton. bill has ties to the guy too and she would not want it coming out. epstein is a convicted child molestor and spent time at mara largo as well as hosting bill on his plane.
>>683432965 they also have to be dumb enough to believe trump will deliver them jobs. personal responsibility used to be something the republicans stood for. we need to get back to this basic fact of conservatism.
>>683433235 what would you rather see happen to illegals? They are breaking the law every day they are on American soil. The established punishment is to deport them. It is not "racist" or xenophobic to want criminals to pay for their crimes.
>>683433466 >their lives better HAHAHA holy fuck is that what you vote on? Some people are self-less and vote on whats best for the country which is what you should be doing. Are you just voting for whichever candidate wants to lower taxes for your self? Why are so many democrats narcissistic?
>>683433759 not the same guy. but i doint give a fuck about illegals immigrants, not really. if they break a law and get caught they should be deported. but if they abide by laws and shit and do work that others don't want to, because they don't hve choice, then i have zero problems with them. they obviously fill a niche in society.
>>683433188 shipping their jobs to China really helped these people right? they want him to build back a strong US industrial complex that could provide jobs low skilled US workers and they want him to prevent cheap labour from Latin America from creating a competition on the domestic market Is it possible right now? no but they want to believe so they vote for him you can say that these people are dumb rednecks but the fact is that their suffering is real, these people are struggling right now and the status quo won't do for them
>>683433759 If they're caught breaking the law; then they have to go but if they're here working and paying taxes then issue them some type of work visa or temporary citizenship. It's not that difficult to figure out man.
>>683433992 they could have done that themselves if they wanted to. There's a process for a reason, we can't just throw it in the trash because "well, that spic who painted my house was pretty nice" and open the border.
There are just as many or more legal immigrants who are just as hard working and just as willing to work those "dirty" jobs.
Whoever wrote this was not objective and had a clear prerogative to defame Trump. If their primary concern was with obtaining justice they would not be using such derogatory and subjective terminology.
>against money in politics >against free trade agreements like TPP and NAFTA >against the war in Iraq >wants tax penalties on businesses that move jobs overseas >recently said taxes on the rich should go up >and from holding all these positions he is wildly popular with people who consider themselves conservative
I'm a liberal and I love Donald Trump. He is single handedly exposing how popular leftist policies are even among the most conservative republicans. Trump is the greatest gift to leftism in a generation and he is going to do untold damage to conservatism in America.
>>683434340 or all the lawyers saw it for what it clearly is - an attempt to defame someone she doesn't like and cash in. There's a reason she's taking this to a lawsuit instead of actually reporting the crime to the police.
>>683431243 They also include a ton of Bernie supporters that won't vote for Clinton. And repubs that won't vote any other ticket. And a bunch of people that voted dem bc their mommy made them but now that actually have a job and pay taxes so their not gonna vote to pay for the dindus and Jose anymore.
Well, I hope Trump will be a low point and a wake up call for the Republicans. And I'm not even right wing.
I wish the Republicans can refocus on their actual values like intelligent nationalism, intelligent economy and modern conservatism, rather than social stagnation, bigotry, idiocracy and blind opposition. i.e. The Republican party used to care about getting unemployed people jobs and give people opportunities to make it based on personal merit. Now it's just about fear-mongering the middle-class while abandoning the lower-class.
Not that the Democrats haven't had similar issues in the past decades, in their own way. It just seems the Republican party has driven itself into a rut, devoid of any intention of making some intellectual changes. Until now.
Good luck, Republicans. I hope you find your former glory.
>>683429355 Muh vote matters types like you political fucks are the raving lunatics who have the asinine audacity to legit believe that the next president is elected not selected. Fluoridated meat sacks that you are, so content with being statist cucks.
>>683434425 Doesn't change the fact that he is intellectually damaging not only the Republican party, but the US as a whole. His plans really don't matter, when he attempts to win with a rhetoric one might find in (too) far right parties overseas. I agree with a couple of his ideas. But the persona he chose to be is just a deal breaker and should not be elected as the representative of the USA.
The allegations are not only categorically false, but disgusting at the highest level and clearly framed to solicit media attention or, perhaps, are simply politically motivated. There is absolutely no merit to these allegations. Period
>>683435589 Are you really suggesting that if he gets more votes than her he still won't win? And not like Gore in Fla. like he could get a majority vote and lose? Popular and electoral? Or are you saying there are enough states that he won't get all the "non key" states and so the usual key states won't matter because it'll be like a flip on what states do? You've said this a few times and I'm just trying to wrap my head around your logic.
>>683436072 Well, they need representatives as well. That doesn't mean that those representatives can't formulate that portion of the people in an intelligent and democratic way. Many countries in Europe have been ignoring their conservative population and as soon as shit happened, they fled into far right camps, because nobody else listened to their concerns.
I'd rather have a concervative party with a couple bible thumpers than a wannabe concervative party and an uncontrollable fraction of the population giving up on democracy.
>>683436346 i'm saying that the states that are on that meme do not matter at all in the outcome of the election. if he wins against clinton in every one of them, and he might, he could still easily lose the election.
>>683435929 Good little goyim, go on with your puffed up illusion of freedom in your corporation government. Shit stains like you all in this shit filled thread make the elite prove a point of why they dominate. The reality of who's actually in control of all government institutions is the only thing that's relevant here. But please, continue your political feces smearing. Whatever brightens up your homeostasis, goyim.
>>683436072 Not him but that whole statement you made is what's wrong with them. If they would just stfu about religion and laws made based on religion they would be the best party. But no. This is why we can't have nice things
>>683436666 the problem is both parties have now gotten to the point where they only want to protect their own majorities or near majorities. they don't care too much about the issues. they both pander. democrats used to be the pander party and it works better for them. now they both do it.
>>683432266 >Implying surprise that Southern states vote Republican. >Implying that extrapolating from the tardiest of the Conservatards will give accurate nation-wide projections >Implying he doesn't know how to data
>>683429463 It's one of the reasons the Republican leaders hate him so much. >>683430047 The media wins either way actually, he'll be a one term clusterfuck of a president. They'll be able to cream themselves over his constant newsworthy fuck ups
>>683436519 Ah. I see now. Good thing he stands a good chance to win in as many other states as he would need as well. At least I hope so. I'm tired of our govt pandering to the likes of BLM and sjws and the PC crowd and also I'm tired of spending thousands of my dollars a year supporting poor culture and not enforcing even our current immigration legislation. Much less just saying fuck it, you can stay. No Jose. It's time for you to go home now. Maybe if we sent them all back and made it way more harder to get back in they would stay home and deal with their problems instead of running to America so they can send millions of untaxed dollars back home every week
I don't see the problem here. Prostitutes working *several* times with their wealthy customers. Now the opportunist literal whore is trying to get $100M. I still think that Trump would make a shitty president, but prostitution has always been there and 12-13 y.o. females can use their own brains.
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