>>675778521 Sure it's better for the niggers spics and single moms that need "dem programs" to "pay for all these kids" but it's really bad for people that actually earn the things they have and worked hard to live a comfortable life.
>>675778723 "wahh waaaah waahh da rich people are not going to have as much money after they pay tax waahhh wahhh its soo unfair on the rich people to have a slightly less amount of money waaaaaa waaaa i want my republican security blankey"
>>675778982 It really has nothing to do with rich people. Between me and my wife we barely cleared 50k and we were already taxed to hell and back. We don't qualify for any breaks and every year that a socialist democrat is in office means we take home less and less. I can't afford Bernie sanders. But a lazy welfare leech can. And I don't care if it's 2% more or 0.00000002% more I don't feel like I should be responsible for a crack addicted black single mom who should've kept her fucking legs closed.
>>675779529 There are increases across the board to affect the average worker at about 2% increase. I'm too busy working right now to look it up. But the only decrease in taxes hits the(and I may be wrong) 30-40k tax bracket. Someone please post the (pro Bernie) infographic plz
>>675779385 If someone legitimately needs and deserves govt assistance I'm all for it. But too many of these people have made choices that put them where they are and I say keep your fucking hands out of my pocket and let them sleep in the bed they made
>>675779287 Most welfare cases are white and temporary. Read walmart employees. Why should we subsidize them while they work? Research your red states or watch the Wonderful Whites of West Virginia. You will see the less than 1% of your welfare tax dollars you pay hard at work.
>>675778982 >implying you wouldnt be one of the peasants sacrificed for "the greater good" in a communist system... 120 million+ sacrifices and counting and thats just the last 100 years shit for brains
>>675778723 LOL YEAH LETS JUST HAND OVER ALL THAT SHIT TO THE MILITARY FOR SHIT WE DON'T NEED AND GIVE RICH PEOPLE OUR MONEY INSTEAD LOL CAUSE UHH RICH PEOPLE WHO PAY ME AS LOW AS POSSIBLE CREATE JOBS? I ALSO DUNNO WHO PAYS FOR SNOW REMOVAL I THINK ITS SANTA?
we all started out like africans, hungry, naked and alone. everything that's not food (calories and vitamins, nothing gourmet), clothes (anything that fits, not designer), and shelter (a roof at night) is a LUXURY.
>>675780402 nobody ever goes after hassidic communities and other small communities that fucking milk the system harder than anyone. people hate welfare because they think of black people and they're racist. fucking shitloads of white people are on welfare. if people could get fucking jobs and education we wouldn't need welfare. also who fucking cares if a small small small amount of people abuse it because the whole system is fucked and nobody cares about fucking bailing out massive banks and corporations. yeah. but OHHHH some black person bought lobster. fucking kill the program!
>>675779977 I'll take it. Repubs and their donors are like welfare cases. They want shit but expect others to pay for it. Inefficient militaries cost trillions. Road, bridges, etc. The larger the entity the less efficient whether it is business or government. Why not cut the military and expect some efficiency? Its the largest part of the budget. Oh yeah, the contracts. Its like the license branch with guns. Cue navy seal copypasta.
>>675779136 >implying rich people don't have immense tax loopholes they can exploit to avoid being taxed >implying rich people in America are exploited and disempowered >implying the rich are entitled to everything their workers create keep sucking the banker dick anon, it accrues interest over time.
>>675781107 I wasn't implying that. I already know that they're leeching right outta my back pocket. And I'm not ok with that. No self respecting person would be. And to the guy that said whites do it too? Yes. They very well do. And they also don't deserve shit.
>>675781031 thats a total load and you know damn well that ALL communist leaders so far have been bloodthirsty monsters with not other goal in mind other than to secure their position in power and theyve killed houndreds of millions to stay in power just a while longer... capitalism promotes social and technological evolution and communism just stagnates all kind of human progression what so ever... faggot
>>675781608 So why not vote to change the system for the better?
There is always going to be some niggers, black and white, that just want to mooch, but making a higher education more available will help low-income people who want to improve their station in life to do it.
Also more well educated people means more new innovations in living and medicine.
>>675779287 No you shouldn't, but people that earn way more should.. The money redistributed from people who earn way more than they can enjoy will increase overall utility.. It is an easy fix: increase the marginal tax rate for high income brackets. I am not a socialist and believe that incentives shouldn't be significantly skewed, but the level of inequality in the US is just ridiculous, and I don't understand why working class people would ever consider voting Republican, as it is in their own self interest to vote bernie or Hillary.. Maybe people have just been brainwashed enough to actually believe that having guns are important and that the government will come and steal everything away from them.
>>675781619 Ha yeah social and technological evolution. Like how IBM innovated the software that the Nazis used to route people to concentration camps. Or the atom bomb. Or chemical weapons. The reason you don't hear about capitalist atrocities is because the capitalists fucking won the Cold War, so the history books are all one-sided. For every filthy, shitty thing that a communist has done, there has been a capitalist to one-up them. Communism wouldn't have even existed unless capitalists utterly fucked up life for most of the people living. Most people live shitty, miserable, hopeless lives of getting fucked in the ass by huge corporations, having no chance at moving up in life, and that's if they're lucky enough to live in a first world country. God help you if you're in a third world country like Somalia where good old friendly capitalists dump toxic waste into the bays where people catch the fish they fucking live on, or if you're in the Congo where capitalists buy warlords with child-soldier armies to duke it out over coltan mines, or if you're in rural China and your hometown turns into shit because nobody can make any money for all the cheap goods that flood your market. Get the fuck out of here with your fucking culty capitalist worshipping shit.
>>675781837 This would work if the lower class wasn't more concerned with "muh gangsta" and "muh whip n nene" and "fug da police". And if you flood the market with bachelors degree holders the whole "you can tell me all about your degree while you make my frapp" meme just gets worse. There's already plenty of monetary aid out there to where higher education is pretty much already free if you're willing to work for it. Early education is key. Get the kids to understand that life is coming and they need to adequately prepare for it. If they don't then it's on them entirely and I don't want to buy their hot pockets.
>>675781790 Social contract theory is an outdated idea made by a rich French guy who nobody with actual power reads anymore. And having social welfare and a strong left is the only reason that any Americans enjoyed stable employment, weekends, vacations, pensions, and so on. The left gave you that shit, not the free market. If it were up to the bankers you'd be illiterate and digging ditches for a penny an hour. And that's what we're moving towards as a fucking nation because banker propaganda has made us so cheap that we're now refusing to give future generations the opportunities we had, telling them that their "ingenuity" or some platitudinous piece of shit like that will create money for them to live on. Don't be surprised when people don't fucking listen.
And neither of us are selfish. I'm arguing for the benefit of everyone, and you're arguing for the master you want mercy from.
>>675782126 >china >capitalist butthatswhereyourewrong.jpeg china is in the state it is right now because of communism you fuckfaced retard and alot of colonized (if not all) subsaharan countries agressively chased away or slaughtered the capitalists that wouldve put their countries on a one-track-path to becomming an actually civilized country... like south-africa for instance... youre just some apologist fuckwit who wants to leech off big brother government until you die
>>675782736 He was born a Jew but he's basically atheist. And he was the only candidate to NOT attend the zionist AIPAC conference. If you generalize and think everyone with Jewish blood is the same you're a complete moron.
>>675777760 Bust your nuts you self righteous cappie bitch. The filthy stinking rich dont deserve fucking shit, and should be pulled their oppulent nests, and beaten and raped for oppresing us for so long.
>>675782714 Yeah bro China is communist. For sure. That's why they're inviting a bunch of foreign businesses in to gang-bang their working class into submission. The communist party in China is rotten from head to toe, but the maggots are all capitalist. Capitalists have been behind genocides in Indonesia, South America, all over Africa, and beyond. Capitalism is the world's most effective killing machine because it makes it so that a person's life is only worth as much money as is in their pocket - people have no fucking rights when money buys everything and does everything. Your "big brother government" is just the puppet on the bourgeois hand.
>>675778982 >>675779136 The filthy rich dont deserve their wealth, anyone woth over a billion dollars, and isnt a fucking philianthripist or hoards it all for themselves, rither did not get it through lawful or moral means, or atleast certainly doesnt deserve said wealth.
I haven't seen so many lies about Bernie sanders since well the last time I watched faux news. Some people are so fucking stupid. They'd rather keep funding shit wars and fucking over education. Watch America in 50 years our population will be a gaggle of knuckle dragging troglodytes. afraid of brown people and worshiping the wealthy. While the rest of the world laughs at the hollow empty shell of what the USA was.
The biggest flaw in this whole "big government" or big business" fight is that both are so interdependent that separating them is impossible. People go between the public and private spheres for employment all the time, from the lowest to the highest ranks of power. Trying to cut the government aspect out of social life doesn't remove the need for governance, it just makes governance dependent on whoever had enough money to buy the public works/public park/public school/etc. So what it really comes down to is your attitude towards democracy. Would you rather society be governed by a closed clique, or would you rather have a say in your own fate?
>>675783409 youre an imbelice if you think that whats going on in china isnt a bastardized version of capitalism bud and for the record, youre enjoying the fruits of capitalism as we speak so you know, take your self-destructive shit-tier ideologies else-where nignog
I wonder when the american public will wake up. We are nearly the highest taxed nations on the earth, and we have the very worst in benefits from those taxes. In some states, you have a income tax of over 60%. One way to look at it, is if you sold everything that you owned right now, you could only buy 40% of that shit back (and that is not including sales and other taxes).
The 1% is not the wealthy of this country. The top 1% of the 1% owns vastly more than everyone else put together.
When people caterwaul for taxes and benefits, they don't seem to get that with all the taxes we are paying ZERO of that money is going into infrastructure, like schools and roads.
For instance, I am on food stamps, and I barely get by, I pay vastly more in income tax than I get back from food stamps. Think about that for a bit... I am LOSING money with taxes than I am getting back from the nation and state.
Obamacare is a fucking joke - not only can we not all chip in for health care, now I am on the hook to have insurance,... something that I have no need nor want for. If anything, insurance is one of the few things that is absolutely ruinous economically (if insurance 'covers it', then why wont drug companies just charge more and more for their products --- oh fucking wait, they do!).
All and all, this call for poor people (myself included) to get benefits in return for higher taxes is fucking stupid because I just have to pay more and more of the little money that I have away, and I get the same bullshit that is worth less than even what I put in...
All the rest of you dumb fucks need to wake up and understand that all that clambering for more taxes is doing is funding more black boxed military expenditures, and very little of that shit is used to help our your fellow man.
>>675784152 But there is a workaround. States rights. The individual states need to have the end all say in how they handle those matters. That way if you want to live in a socialist utopia you can live in California. If you want to live in a far right religious state you can move to Utah or Texas. But this country is to large to expect everyone to want to do the same things. That's why states rights exist. And the entire left want to nationalize the country and run the show from the white house and congress i.e. Big government. And the right want as little federal influence as possible i.e. Small govt. there needs to be a middle ground if we don't want to end up in the shitter
>>675781242 >if rich people have "immense tax loopholes" then why tax them at all dumb ass >who's saying that? I'm not responsible=/=i am exploited and disempowered(do you assume everyone is out to play the victim like you liberal cucks?? >if the workers don't like it, they can quite. its not like you can produce anything without capital. anyone can be a worker at a business not anyone has the capital to create one.
keep sucking the minorities and sjws genderless dicks anon
>>675784739 I'm a commie but one thing I can agree with southerners about is that the USA is too fucking big. I truly honestly don't give a rip what goes on in other states. I don't care if Utah makes polygamy and child marriage legal.
The only problem with being a small government is that a big government will inevitably kick your ass.
Jesus. All of you guys are fucked. The rightists for being actual brain-damaged, incoherent imbeciles incapable of making any kind of rational argument based on reality, and the leftists for not realizing that the rightists don't possess the capability for rational argument. You might as well be arguing with mad dogs, and that's just stupid.
>>675784625 You're a fool, under a single-payer system you may pay a little bit more in taxes but you won't have to pay high ass premiums and deductibles that you'd have to pay under corporate run insurance. This would net save you thousands of dollars per year.
>>675785018 >if rich people have "immense tax loopholes" then why tax them at all dumb ass My point was that the rich are bending rules that the rest of us never get to bend. That isn't right. >I'm not responsible=/=i am exploited and disempowered They are responsible for what they do. Trying to dodge that responsibility on the basis of some made-up "rights" that can be found neither in nature, nor in reason, nor in law, is just bullshit. >its not like you can produce anything without capital. Uh...human society existed before capital. Also you can still produce things without capital. Weave a basket for all I care.
Are the rich people giving you cookies for your loyal behavior?
>>675784640 lel, theres a difference between spelling something wrong and misstyping bud and im not surprised someone that defends communism tries to derail the concersation and goes straight for the character-assassination as fast as the opportunity presents itself... kill yourself pal
>>675785616 It is greed to have a "fuck you pay me" mentality. The rich in the country have long exploited others to get and stay rich. I suppose the poor could "earn" some money by overthrowing the rich. Would that make you happy?
I'm easily considered middle class, but I would love to see these evil bastards hanging from a bridge on the morning news.
>>675778521 You're a fucking faggot. Communism is bad because no one will be inclined to do a better job at anything because there is no competition, and it will bring down the quality of the entire system
>>675785842 You don't know me, and you're a fool for making that assertion. I've seen the video that you took that screenshot from like years ago.
That graph within of itself is not proof of anything being rigged - that graph could easily be the same for the distribution of slot machine payouts in Vegas, but that within itself does not mean that the machines are rigged to only let specific people win.
Try again with an actual argument rather that stupid shit
>>675785683 >My point was that the rich are bending rules that the rest of us never get to bend. That isn't right. my point is that if the rich can bend and break the rules were trying to impose on them, whats the point of trying to impose them. >They are responsible for what they do. Trying to dodge that responsibility on the basis of some made-up "rights" that can be found neither in nature, nor in reason, nor in law, is just bullshit. What makes them responsible? it seems to me that you think someone should pay for your shit simply because they have more than you, which is the real bullshit. > Uh...human society existed before capital. Also you can still produce things without capital. Weave a basket for all I care. not in the way that drives economies.
At least i earn my cookies, instead of taking from who ever has more than me because it's not fair, like a child
>>675785635 The fuck are you even talking about welfare doesn't give you enough money to live confortably in you fuckwit. The amount of people committing fraud from welfare is less than 1% of its recipients. And most state welfare programs have require occupational engagement requirements. When I lost my job and needed food stamps to get by for a couple months I had literally a quota of jobs I had to both apply for and prove I applied for with records. And it only lasts three months at a time. This fucking argument is so invalid it hurts. It's like the people who say this shit are just wildly guessing on what these programs actually offer
>>675786469 Billionaires/corporations have bought off nearly all politicians and literally rigged the rules in their favor. Wall Street owns congress. The elite get masses tax breaks and corporate subsidies at the expense of the crumbling middle class. If you don't understand how corrupt the system is you're an utter moron.
>>675786618 How about I will pose an argument, I think the loaning of money at interest from the fed is where the vast majority of the rigging is, let alone sweetheart deals to government military companies and other black book projects. And it is these same crooks that you wish to entrust even more money to... in hopes that they will give you some table scraps.
I would only add, that the stock market is absolutely fubar, and should be dismantled altogether (I personally find it to be tantamount to theft, personally). And that I agree there is mad amounts of corruption in nearly all levels of government (even though this does not strengthen your hand that we should entrust these crooks with even more money)
200 years ago maybe. There are too many lobbying groups pressuring lawmakers to pass anti-competitive laws for your kind of idealistic view to be accurate these days. Patent trolling, anti wage rise lobbying, the contents of bills like TPIP etc.
Capitalism no longer exists and neither does socialism really. What we have today is a mixture of the worst aspects of both those systems. And that system needs to be fixed.
and do you honestly think it's a good idea to have to pay a subscription fee to your local fire department and if you don't they let your house burn to the ground, pets and all? and what about the people who refuse to pay the fee yet their little child is trapped inside, should the fire department let the kid die? obviously taxes are a better idea for this. and police departments and roads and the military and school and fucking healthcare. you're a fucking moron, just shut the fuck up or learn something before you open your retarded mouth. faggot.
>>675786985 >Billionaires/corporations have bought off nearly all politicians and literally rigged the rules in their favor. Nope. Urbanites and/or Catholics are the ones who grabbed power. With the 17th Amendment turning urban areas into mere rent-seekers instead of wealth creators, its no suprise that Catholics have used numbers to rig the system since the billionares, like the catholics, only care about the urban centers. You need to look at the true cause.
> Wall Street owns congress. Urban centers own congress
>The elite get masses tax breaks and corporate subsidies at the expense of the crumbling middle class. If you don't understand how corrupt the system is you're an utter moron. No, urban areas steal money from suburban and rural areas. No shit the fucking middle class is dying and its bceause they're stagnating both economically and legally. The only group that's going to come out ahead in the long run are the blacks and that's only because they kept their numbers up and they're moving south where the local population - being fucked over by reconstruction and other anti dixie shit - won't be able to keep them jobless and out of the workforce like the northern cities were able to do with the "great" society. Considering that southern blacks will hate the newcommers too, racism won't be able to prevent the migrants from realizing just who actually did fuck them over after 1865 and who their allies actually are.
The South was full of serfs and some slaves(slavery is a means of immigration into society and thus doesn't re-produce at sustainable levels) and these rural serfs, being treated well by their "owners" even to the point of running the plantations during the war, were growing in numbers and that scared the shit out of racists and northerners who knew that blacks would rule the South one day without being bogged down by urbanism like in the north.
>>675777760 >rightwing leading polls for years after years >leftwing infiltrates education, starts preaching far leftist bullshit they hardly agree themselves with so that even the ones who wont completely buy into it will lean moderate left atleast >younger generation all voting left EU here, if you want your country to be defenseless and in denial about how much more horrible other cultures can be then the western culture vote left
Who is to say that Bernie supporters are supporting the redistribution of taxed wealth for a greed-driven purpose, rather than an altruistic one? I think that's a big disconnect that exists between Bernie's supporters and his critics. Many of the Bernie supporters I know don't need his social programs, or would not directly benefit from them. For example, students who I know that support Bernie would most likely never benefit from his proposal to make public universities free, as they either attend private universities, or simply because by the time such a proposal would pass, they would be out of school. Similarly, none of the Bernie supporters who I'm friends with need universal healthcare, as they have a job which provides some sort of health coverage. I don't know any Bernie supporters who fit the lazy millennial stereotype, if I'm being honest. I think a good amount of Bernie's supporters are hardworking Americans who look at his proposals and say, "Plenty of other first world countries have similar systems in place, and they're thriving. Also, I can see how these systems would benefit other people in my society."
Furthermore, I personally support Sanders not because I want to mooch off of his proposed systems - in fact, I hardly believe that they would be successfully passed if Sanders was to be elected. Rather, I respect Sanders the most out of any candidate for the honesty in his track record; the issues that he fights for today are the same issues he was fighting for 20 or 30 years ago. Unlike Hillary, he does not flip-flop, and unlike Trump, he doesn't spout his ideas without thinking about them first. One may call Trump honest, but it's not the type of honesty I want running a first world country. To further explain, imagine a small gathering of friends who haven't seen each other in a few years. If one person said something to the other along the lines of, "You look like you've gained weight," that's honest and may be correct denotatively, but rude.
>>675788054 You do know it is "THE first world country" right? Russia was second world, and everything else is third world. Pet peeve of mine is when people use that phrase without understanding the cold war and where it came from.
Trump's honesty can also come off as incredibly bigoted (see: his comments about Muslims.) Trump, to me, seems like a modern McCarthy, except you're replacing communists with Musilms/people of Middle-Eastern descent. A modern McCarthy, or even a Hitler, as some may call him, will not do anything good in the realm of a Muslim extremist threat. I feel that putting Trump in a position of substantial power will only further radicalize Muslim extremism. While I can see why some people may be fed up with the increasing political correctness of society, I feel like it's a safer bet than aggressive bigotry. Sanders may be PC, but I don't think that means he'll be soft on extremism by any means. If you look at his response to the attack in Brussels, he seemed to be the only person who responded accordingly. Trump, Hillary, and other candidates used it as a platform to further promote themselves and their views, and to me, that's despicable in a time of mourning. I understand that they want to tackle the issue that led to the attack, but doing so in the same breath as mourning seems to put themselves before legitimate respect to the victims of the unfortunate attack.
Lastly, while Sanders' proposals may not ultimately be passed, I think the altruistic and humanistic intentions and ideals behind them are important. I'd rather have someone who is at heart selfless and caring about other members of mankind than a money-hungry individual who puts themselves first. I understand the desire to keep ones' own hard-earned money, but I don't see what's so wrong about the good intention to honestly help people who need help.
>>675787998 Everyone will fuck you over, but atleast rightwing wont leave your country defenseless while fucking you over
They bombed the capital of the European Union, the politicians who support the European Union are mostly all leftwing
The European Union is mostly leftwing itself and has also not done shit about defense nor did they ever prioritize it, they kept borders open even tho it was known Isis fighters were among the flow of refugees something they refused to admit until Paris happened and according to reports weve got like 20k Isis Warriors some where in Europe because the Union demanded to keep borders open to protect their multiculturalism leftist ideals and even now after Brussels they still believe in open borders
So vote right, not because they wont fuck you over, but because it increases your countries ability to respond to foreign aggression
>>675788405 Words and terms change their meaning over time, though. It's easy to be cheeky in an argument and bring up an old definition (i.e. teenagers who try to excuse the use of the word "fag" by reminding others that it previously meant a bundle of sticks) but we do have to use the modern understanding of a term, and in a modern context, a first-world country refers to a well-developed country, with relative wealth and stability.
>>675777760 Trump's the only republican with a chance, but won't become president. Your a fucking retard if you think that will happen. Hillary or Bernie will be the president. No one should want to vote for him anyway, >Republicunt >Against gay marriage >Against Abortion >Against raising taxes for the 1% of Americans that get 50% of its money >Doesn't support free college >Thinks Mexico will pay for his wall (seriously this makes him look like the biggest retard on the planet) >Supports the death penalty (that murders innocent people 4% of the time) >Thinks a business should be able to deny customer service because of religious beliefs >Believes in workfare (slave labor for people receiving government benefits) >Doesn't believe in criminally charging executes on Wall Street, who committed fraud and caused the greatest economic crisis in American history since the great depression, because of which people lost their life savings, their homes, their families, and some took their lives. >Wants to waste time and money testing all welfare recipients for drugs >Believes a photo ID should be required to vote, even though every expert says voting fraud is extremely rare while some even doubt its existence. >Doesn't believe immigrants should be able to receive subsidized healthcare >Doesn't believe in creating a path towards citizenship for immigrants without a criminal record >Thinks drugs should be illegal, thus filling prisons with millions of young and old people with sever health problems >Doesn't believe in the legalization of marijuana but is fine with no gun control. >Doesn't believe in gun control because not everyone with a gun is bad >Doesn't support Muslims coming into our country because all of them must be bad.
>>675789630 >Believes in expanding offshore drilling, and the use of fracking, thus causing more environmental problems that we desperately do not need, as Earth is doomed according to every scientist. >Doesn't believe in affordable healthcare programs made by the government, despite many Americans dying because of medical related causes such as not being able to afford prescriptions, meanwhile the 1% (which includes Trump) gets 50% of America's money. That's unAmerican as fuck. >Doesn't believe children should be vaccinated >Doesn't support the governments funding space travel. >Contradicts himself all the time. >Doesn't care if the KKK and confederates endorse him. >Thinks his IQ is one of the highest >Giant ego >Extremely intolerant towards Muslims, despite saying he loves them >Super racist, saying Obama probably wasn't born in the US and thinking that immigrants should be oppressed by the government, despite America being founded on diversity and immigration.
If you look at all of this and still support that lunatic, it doesn't matter. Trump will get nominated regardless and then go on to either get defeated by Clinton or get his ass kicked by Sanders. I highly doubt Trump will get elected, and so does every politic expert.
>>675789086 I take it you vote left I based this on you directly trying to make my arguements seem bad by making a really bad summerisation of it which completely misses the point and deliver not a single valid counter arguement >like leftists do 95% of time
>>675788687 >SHEEIIIT TRUMP RASIS GAINST MUSMS, MUST BE HITLER I for one think it's perfectly reasonable to halt immigration from a war torn region where people are being recruited into terrorist organisations terrorist organisations solely recruiting people of specific faith.
>>675790492 this fucking false left/right paradigm. they're both two sides of the the same goddamned coin. the only real difference in candidates is whether they are bought off and corrupted or not. it's controlled opposition. divide and conquer. oh shit this evil person on the left is gonna win, better vote for this asswipe on the right who is the ONLY CHANCE to beat them! oh fuck this guy on the right is hitler, your only choice is to vote for the person on the left who we tell you to fucking vote for because the majority of you eat this fucking shit up!
>>675790811 I didn't say I think of him as Hitler, but I know some people would say that given his gold-star policy. I can agree that halting immigration is somewhat reasonable given the circumstances, but I also think a complete halt is unfair to those who are trying to escape that war torn region for the sake of their safety. What would make me compare Trump to McCarthy, though, are the comments I've heard him make about deportation and the gold-star policy. He's not proposing deathcamps or genocide, he's not Hitler, but he is trying to expose people who have not done anything wrong and remove them from our society, solely because their faith happens to be radicalized in certain parts of the world.
>>675791197 yes it's unfair but we need to face harsh realities And one harsh reality is that these terrorists organisation only recruit muslims, they're propaganda is designed to pander to muslim culture and promotes islam. I agree its wrong to say that all muslims are terrorists but its not beyond reason to say that all(or at least the vast majority) of the members of these terrorist organisations are muslims. Not that muslims are bad.
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