>>675690352 was a safe movie that is the perfect example of plagiarism. it is literally a new hope with a few things changed. difference is a new hope had character development that made sense where tfa has 0 development. its just hey a trooper rasied to be evil is suddenly not evil or random girl who doesnt believe in the force just decides nope im a jedi now. it gives nothing new to the franchise and shows how bad the writers and director were that most of the eu is better and as someone whos read most of the eu only about half is actually good and 1/3 of it awesome
>>675693984 Hmm fair point but you must realize that people (like myself) had a bad taste due to the prequels so it did sort of had to be re-made just to say that this franchise is back! with JJ out of the way Episode 8 is in good hands with Rian Johnson to branch out into something new for this story but till then let's hold our collective breath.
It has some of nice moments, some funny ones, and some where you thought: "man, that's badass". But the majority was blatantly ripped off of New Hope, and not relly interesting. It is not as bad as Episode 1 and 2, but not worth the hype and success.
>>675694236 that is obvious but thats just lazy writing. she went from fuck the force to i can beat the shitty sith lord who has had years of training. leaving it to the other films to develop characters just waste time unless its all flashbacks >>675694378 prequels were bad but also good. they got bogged down in politics and world building. i mena no one wanted the sentate meetings and shit but it gave you an actual look at the universe in a more in depth scale which was impressive on its own. what hurt it was no one wanted to tell george no thats stupid no one cares about politics in a world with laser swords. the next director could do good with it but he has to use the characters abrams left him and sadly that limits him. luke should be badass, rey may get better, and kylo i hope they play up the pussy bitchness more then switch actors(or make him like vader all burned) later to have him go from loser to straight up badass who did a full transform. abrams and writers just left bad characters which is gonna hurt the next story which sucks
>>675695245 Yeah Georgie went a little bit overboard for which I'm glad they booted his Jar Jjar loving ass out but Poe, Rey, and Kylo (at times) were good enough for my liking as a new start to this series, I think it would be a nice touch if Kylo actually kills Snoke to become this uber misinformed bad ass...like how Vader kills the Emperor but not for the sake of saving anyone he cares about ;)
>>675690352 it was fucking shit, why does everyone fucking praise it. saw the movie for the first time last night. didnt see it in theaters didnt want to watch it in cam. waited for a quality release to give my up most opinion and i can honestly say the new starwars is shit. the pre q was better. it was so fucking boring fuck sakes. the girl theres no story none of it has a story its just oh were at this time now. theres is a huge fucking gap in the story filled in the the old fucking cast why didnt they just make the new one with the old cast if they were just going to be in the fucking movie anyways. what in the fuck is wrong with you people. the fucking movie is shit listen to me. the fucking movie was trash.
p.s the new fucking madmax was trash stop saying it was fucking good. it was fucking garbage you fucking brainless fucks.
inb4 Rey is trained by Luke, Kylo by that ugly fuck. Rey is going to fight with Kylo and kill that faggot, Luke will somehow die by the ugly fucker, ugly fuck retreat. Rey will now be the last Jedi and pick up a new padawan.
Honestly. Fights were good, villian was shit. Not the character himself, he came off rather well until he took off the mask, then he was a pleb. Disappointed about how they killed off Han as well, could of gone better if I'm honest. Film was mediocre at best.
>>675696717 yeah. for some reason people seem to forget that it's supposed to take years of training to be able to do even basic force shit. kylo's character sucks - can stop a laser mid air, read people's minds, but gets beat by a shitty former storm trooper and rey
>>675690352 I thought it was great, but my life doesn't revolve around star wars, so my opinion will be disregarded. it was an enjoyable movie experience, and I couldn't be fucking bothered in the slightest about some young girl whooping the ass of some random experienced dudes I've never heard about before, because they are shooting lasers and swinging laser swords, reality is gone, get over yourselves, nobody cares. would watch it again, great experience!
>>675690352 That is was an ok movie, with potential to be great Tainted by political agenda of race diversity and feminism >>675691089 This >>675691368 Nowhere near to this level, rey takes the cake for that
>>675697812 People tend to overANALyze when it comes to their fandom and honestly I agree with everything you have said, it was my best theater experience of 2015 and just felt nice to escape reality for those 2 hours People who complained about a "Mary Sue" or a black stormtrooper came off as such idiotic and misinformed people but it's out online now in 1080, enjoy! :D
I agree, Mad Max was utter shit. TFA was alright, not great, not bad. But it serves its purpose. That purpose being launching a new run of Disney Star Wars movies, that will not be pre-judged as bullshit.
Also, your comment was hard as fuck to read, either you're a autist, or a dumb fuck.
Example: What the fuck does:
>" the girl theres no story none of it has a story its just oh were at this time now"
The girl has no story? the girl is no story? No girl story the?
or how about:
>"theres is a huge fucking gap in the story filled in the the old fucking cast why didnt they just make the new one with the old cast if they were just going to be in the fucking movie anyways."
Firstly, capital T, we're starting a sentence, aren't we? Next, 'filled in the the old cast'.
The key point to take away from this brief encounter is, no matter how valid your point, if you are unable to communicate it successfully, you should kill yourself. Because you're full on autistic. You utter fucking bellend.
>>675695973 Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies. We often put our false morality on a petal stool like a bunch of pre-Madonnas, but you all seem to be taking something very valuable for granite. So I ask of you to mustard up all the strength you can because it is a doggy dog world out there. Although there is some merit to what you are saying it seems like you have a huge ship on your shoulder. In your argument you seem to throw everything in but the kids Nsync, and even though you are having a feel day with this I am here to bring you back into reality. I have a sick sense when it comes to these types of things. It is almost spooky, because I cannot turn a blonde eye to these glaring flaws in your rhetoric. I have zero taller ants when it comes to people spouting out hate in the name of moral righteousness. You just need to remember what comes around is all around, and when supply and command fails you will be the first to go.
>>675697975 I'm as much of a feminist as anyone else on /b/, but I'm a sucker for the good side winning, I don't care if it's down to that weak girl, as long as han solo is avenged, and the planet destroyers are killed, I'm more happy than otherwise. it doesn't matter anyway.
>>675693400 He wasnt the hero, it was more like a femminist empowerment movie, which is disgusting in its own right The whole black jedi was a diversion tactic from the real evil, the feminist agenda behind this movie, and all the emasculated cucks from the media that backed it up with praise and high scores
Point in case this guy>>675693461 He still thinks the nigger was the main character
My biggest problem was ray using mind trick.... He only heard of the force an hour before and had no knowledge of Jedi abilities. Yet she's able to pull off high level stuff that Asoka tano couldn't after studying the force for 14 years.... Bullshit
K, first of all... EVERYONE HATED THAT FUCKING MOVIE and specifically criticized 9 year old boy blowing up a space station. Nobody ever fucking called anyone a sexist for that.
Second, he did it by accident.
Raereyreirai picked up a lightsaber for the first time in her life and beat the shit out of a Dark Jedi trained by Luke Skywalker and Darth Big Giant Head. This Dark Jedi had been powerful enough to kill every other fucking student at the Jedi academy. An he could stop blaster bolts in mid-air, something nobody else had done before.
>>675690352 It was OK. I have to watch 1-3 again for some more perspective. I only watched them once and I was really young when I did, I was like 10 when it came out so I don't remember much. All I really know about it, is that it rustles all the star wars nerds jimmies super hard.
>>675690352 >soft remake of the original >40 years have passed, but nothing is different >Empire gonna empire with TIEs and Stormtroopers, Rebels gonna X-Wing with no Jedi >Muh inclusion with a strong female lead that no one will like in the long run, useless negro, and gay puerto rican >'Sith' is a bargin basement Revan/Jacen hybrid with no purpose other than to be the bad guy and kill of Han >DEATH PLANET because the Death Star was for Normies >Casual fags love it because it's cool to hate the prequels
>>675698944 Me included lol but I did like it cause I was 6 at the time and very fucking stupid but I'm just saying that Anakin had no faults besides falling in love and being so easily influenced, Rey is a better character so far when it comes to the first movie to establish these characters
>>675690352 The whole 'orphan-girl is instant jedi-master, because wuhmyn-untuition' was a dealbreaker. Oh yeah, she is basically R2-D2 also, knowing instantly the technical gimmicks of new ships/areas. She got the best parts of the woman myth (good intuition) and man myth (good with technology). She had no parents, so she is as independent as humanly possible. Oh yeah, the male-lead is a dufus too...
Harrison Ford was a bright spot, but otherwise it was feminist propaganda, not even joking bros
>>67569857'3 Is this a joke? it was not until the second movie where anakin grew up and got proper training that he got into battle and got his ass handed to him by the end of the movie, greatest thing he did as a kid was win a fucking race against bunch of amateurs, using his natural jedi reflexes and practice with the pod racer
Unlike rey the Mary Sue god mode Flies the falcon better than Han Solo, despite never touching the ship before, can close her eyes for 5 seconds and become a master jedi
>>675699565 Well we have 2 more movies to decide the course of where this goes, who knows she might even turn to the dark side perhaps since Kylo is clearly struggling with the Light but that's just my shitty fan-fiction talking.
>>675698744 >>675697812 I will however retract all my statements in these posts regarding hardcore fans, I understand why these movies are absolutely ridiculous to you guys, you are passionate and dazzled about another world of wonderful things, but you are waaaaaaay in the minority, and such minorities exist for everything. Just think about how much you care about hardcore fans of harry potter, that's how most people view it all. Yes the movies might be stupid if you analyze them, but pretty much all movies will have lots of flaws, and may be stupid, the difference is that most people only want to be entertained for a while, and then move on.
>>675699479 >The whole 'orphan-girl is instant jedi-master, because wuhmyn-untuition' was a dealbreaker. Pretty much this all the way Which is why i deciede to skip the theater and watch this and all other future sw film on torrent blurays on my comfy couch
>>675700392 If more people like you did that, then we wouldn't be able to watch these movies cause they need some sort of profit in order to entertain the masses I'm all for free shit but it doesn't hurt to think of the economy as well before we're stuck with sticks and stones to entertain us to death lulz
>>675699872 Do you honestly believe this? she is clearly the hero of the franchise now, until the trilogy or whatever is gonna end up being concludes
Not gonna beat around the bush as a fan it sucks to have a female main character on sw, as a secondary side kick i could del with, whats worse she is the epitome of mary sue, its clearly force to pain women in a power like image by feminist
>>675700674 Not true. That forces companies like Disney not to buy up all this IP and crank out movie after movie instead of letting creators create proper films. Say what you want about the Prequels, they won't be as bad as most of the Disney shit.
>>675699479 >The whole 'orphan-girl is instant jedi-master, because wuhmyn-untuition' was a dealbreaker.
Where the hell does this come from? I am glad to see a female Jedi, and I'm sure it will turn out she had some training as a young child. And even if not, all they did was accelerate her a little bit so they don't drag it out over 2 movies or try to cram it all into one.
So a woman trained probably with some Force, and capable with a staff, fought a tuckered out and twice badly-injured, half-trained Sith and won, maybe, who wasn't even trying to actually kill her, but convert and train her.
>>675700994 Of course not but we need something new like this cause let's admit it, it's a cool concept to think about I didn't think I'd like her role as much as I did but I grew into it with repeated viewings, everything has changed but nothing as changed so I can live with a Rey "Skywalker", besides more female viewers can never be a bad thing...unless they're land-whales :p
>>675690352 Just watched the pirated BluRay rip, literally a waste of 2 hours. The battles were boring, the stakes were literally the lowest they have ever been in the Star Wars universe even though there is a thing that can blow up entire solar systems and the new and returning cast except for Ford are useless scrubs.
I mean it. You have this ultimate weapon thing, it has an obvious fucking weak point, and when it obliterates a solar system nobody gives a flying fuck because the people there were never introduced. It has literally no impact if all we see are 30 seconds of red CGI sky and some screams, lucas, you useless motherfucker.
>>675700750 I just took for granted you'd been browsing this website for a while. Based on my experience, feminism is not supported here at all, only by people who want to anger the regulars. I used that observation, which I think most people will have made, to imply that I was not interested in supporting feminism further. I think you already know this, but I'll explain anyway.
>>675700674 >If more people like you did that, then we wouldn't be able to watch these movies Im ok with that, im only watching it because i am a stw fan, in the state it is i would have preferred it ended with lukes story It would be ideal if movie makers realize that a fmeale hero does not sell as much. But now the media is full of emasculated cucks doing propaganda for it
Im ok with pirating movies i disagree with their setting, political agenda or casting, if they go down or not i could not care less. In an optimum scenario they will get the message
>>675701178 In all honesty im scared more flicks will follow suit with the feminist agenda Then the tables will turn, and all the cool summer block busters would be femme approved >>675701401 No its not, and only cucks and feminist need I certainly did not ask for it
>>675691089 Luke Skywalker spent ages training with Yoda to slowly and progressively take hold of the force. This skinny bitch appears out of nowhere and somehow knows it all, no training whatsoever yet she's on a par with Obi Wan
>>675690352 That movie was so fucking shit. I want this trilogy to be full feminist pandering and have a Finn/Poe relationship happening. I want Rey to master her already overpowered abilities complimenting her generic personality and have a multi-ethnic/progressive Rogue Squadron discuss about the patriarchy and have cisgendered males are the Antagonists/Sith. The Force Awakens ruined the potential hype. Now I want it to burn to the ground!
>>675702225 Even then, Luke wasn't strong enough in both fights. The first fight he gets his as handed to him and Darth holds back to capture him as that is his order. Luke loses still and gets his hand cut off.
The second fight Luke still loses. Darth's taunting nearly causes total victory as it sends him over the edge into the Dark Side right into the Emperor's plans... and when Luke resists the Emperor would have killed him. Both times Luke was completely outclassed.
Rey however beats the Sith who murdered all the other Jedi.
You people are the polar opposite of the Sarkeesians of this world, just as irrational and stupid, but without realizing it!
>>Then the tables will turn What the hell are you so afraid of? I know 4chan can be pathetic, but a lot of the time it's done in an ironic way. I think you're genuinely threatened by a female Jedi hero.
>>675702101 I don't think you understand what I'm saying, we're back to square one now. I'll just be straight forward about it. I think women imagine themselves to be in a much worse position than they actually are in, and nothing is ever good enough for them, they will always want more, even if they already have more. That is my view of feminism. My point was that I wanted to defend the movie, even if it was made to empower women, because the movie was very entertaining, and I wanted to underline that I had no agenda when I was praising the movie.
>>675702086 With the massive advertisement and prop it got even as far back as a year before, the masses would have flocked to it irrespective if the main jedi was nigger, an asian, a man, a transsexual
They just took the chance to take this blockbuster to promote diversity and female empowerment, which the director, staff and actors openly talked about
>>675703553 Which is why I am saying to say Star Wars Episode 7 made X at the box office is nothing. Avatar did how much, and who gives two fucks about it?
Episode 7 will always have some notability... but do people care about it that much? I think Game of Thrones is bigger in the culture right now. Even for Episode 7, they sold it using the 80s films imagery of Darth Vader.
>>675702798 Get out of your ass dude, stop cracking wise ass jokes and think for a moment The actors, the director went on record about the diversity and female image behind this movie, its not some tin foil hat thinking, its what actually came out of the mouth of people directly involved with the movie
>>675702798 >What the hell are you so afraid of? Afraid as in life or death ofc not Afraid in the sense that they will start forcing female leads movies specially super hero and transformers like movies, yeah that would suck
>>675702798 the tables will turn because men built this world, the buildings, the roads, the infrstructure, the inventions, electricity, computers, the internet, satellites, the internal combustion engine, the railway, trucks, ships etc etc.. women are the best mothers though, they should stick to that, it makes them happy
>>675703069 they claim to want equality, yet there are no male abuse refuges, they don't care about sewage worker being male, or miners, or trashmen. they want equality when it benefits them, but they don't care that 90% of divorces re initiatied by women, and that women get something like 75-80% custody of kids
women are part way between men and children, we shouldn't give them any power in the real world, taking care of children is what makes them happy, and more importantly makes the children happy and well nurtured
next time a feminist pretends we are equal, trade face punches
they only get away with this shit because we let them, we can stop them whenever we decide we want to, and they can't do shit about it
>>675703837 That movie was just a tool to steer that 3D gimmick in our face which didn't actually pan out haha but Star Wars was always a cultural phenomenon but with the prequels that left a bad taste we were just cautious but I must admit Ii am so excited for season 6, FOR THE WATCH!
>>675703423 Whats your definition of disturbing? I cant sleep, i go around crying, having anxiety attacks, stress loss of appetite, depressed? please be more specific about it im all ears, Let me assure you this ha not affected my life in the slightest
To me it sounds like you are suing buzzwords to make case of poor man baby is scared of teh powerful womyn, im merely voicing my opinion on the diversity agenda behind the making of this movie in a... guess what? movies asking about your opinion
>>675703920 I'm not interested in debating feminism with you, or anyone else, internet feminism is a drain of my happiness and energy, and I will only give a shit when a self-victimizing narcissist is put in her place. Then I will bask in the joy of disgusting humans getting what they deserve. Otherwise I don't have time for it.
>>675704655 and now people are talking about Episode 8 spoilers on Reddit and curious about Rouge One (however you spell it) we're getting Star Wars every year thanks to Georgie being out of the picture
The only hope we had for a good Star Wars film was if George Lucas surrendered some of his power to more talented and competent filmmakers. Instead, he sold the franchise to greedy cocksuckers who are only interested in milking his creation for billions, and aren't willing to take risks in the story-telling that might alienate audiences and reduce their profits.
>>675690352 Honestly I liked it, that's about it. I enjoyed it and really can't wait to buy the steelbook. I wish Captain Phasma played a bigger part but I think they got the idea across that Ben is conflicted so he doesn't seem whiny like Anakin.
>>675690352 pandering to the feminists, and trying to tear down social norms with a fighter female warrior who got it all on lock down, flies the milenium falcon better than Han Solo, knows Jedi Mind Tricks and rapes that Sith faggot, her fucking name means "king"
and the other dude, some faggot searching for his identity and being a total bitch about everything
>>675690352 Not as good as the original three, but substantially better than the prequels. However, I didn't approve of the cliffhanger ending. Star wars movies are supposed to end with a feeling of conclusion. This one ended with a "HAHA NO LUKE TILL THE NEXT ONE LOL". That was shitty of them.
>>675704923 then I am glad you acept my points, it's a start
>>675705219 and the media? and banking? and politics? and publishing? and print media?
why does 2% of the population control what we are supposed to think? is it in our benefit?
also, I didn't say there were a lot of jews in hollywood, I said that they OWNED and CONTROLLED ALL of the major hollywood studios, OWN AND CONTROL
they tell you what to think
when did you last see a movie from hollywood about the 60 million killed by the jewish bolshevik communists? what? NEVER?
but how many movies about the holy 6 million jews claimed to be killed by hitler? Do you know how many gays, gipsies or non-jews he was said to have killed was? NO? wow, how wierd that you know about the jews killed, but not the others, and you were told that by JEW controlled sources?
and people are sent to jail for questioniong facts about the holocaust in many countries, how wierd
>>675704711 You're patently pissed off about it, and in your own words have said oh no, the tables will turn and movies will be femme approved.
Females are part of society - why shouldn't movies appeal to my daughters as well as my sons?
Man, the Fates really fucked up by not having you be born in 1930s Germany, didn't they? Your anti-semitism, your embarrassingly insecure obsession with keeping women in the home, your inability to conceive of a reality outside your own mythological pseudohistory. Face it, you're a fringe lunatic in the 21st century, and you and your ilk are destined to die out.
>>675690352 Eh... roughly on par with return of the jedi.
Poe & Finn were cool enough. Kylo has room for growth... something we haven't seen in a sith since Vader. Rey was kinda mary sue... but I'm like 90% certain she's a trained padawan with amnesia. So that'll minimize that.
Starkiller base was kinda lazy & poorly thought out. I liked the ideas being thrown around with what happened to the original characters, but you could tell some of them really weren't all that into it. And the map to luke and R2 spontaneously waking up with the missing piece was stupid. I'd have had the mind probe give them luke's location & the time pressure foring target be gos location instead of the nebulous rebel "base?"
Step up from most of the shot in the prequels though.
I've become completely empathetic about star wars. it's become so fucking big and messy. decent movies, shitty movies, moneygrabbing myriad of comics, vidyagames, novels and novellas, ridiculous non-canon extended universe and alternate histories. the juggernaut of star wars is almost nauseating at this point. the farce awakens is a pretty good movie, but at this point who the hell can really tell anymore.
>>675706583 I feel the same way as you with all that's thrown out there, but you have to admit there is a ton of passion behind it which I love sometimes it's just a bit overboard, especially with the rabid hardcore fans out there that just take me out of it :/
>>675705802 At least ESB ended at a point where it felt natural to take a break and wait for the next movie. FA gets you all hyped up to see what Luke's been up to all these years in seclusion, then cuts it off. It's like someone interrupting your fap right before you cum. That's just mean.
Episode 7 was a poorly made movie that also made billions.
>Rebellion? More like Resistance >Empire? More like First Order >Death Star? More like Death Planet >Tattoine? More like Jakku >Obi Wan? More like Han Solo >Han Solo? More like Finn >Darth Vader and the Emperor? More like Kylo Ren and some amorphous Snoke thing... >Blow up the Death Star easily? IT'S A FUCKING PLANET IN THIS MOVIE!!! A DEATH! PLANET!!!
>>675707730 Nope. Disney doesn't care. Episode 7 made $$$ which is all they want.
People will genuinely not care about Episode 7 like with the Marvel films outside Iron Man 1 and the Winter Soldier and maybe Avengers, they're all forgetable stuff to jam onto FX for Sunday Marathons.
>>675706213 Pissed off? yeah thats one way to put it When i realize what the new star wars was gonna be like, you could say it pissed me off So what? many things piss me off, spring allergies piss me off, waiting in a stuck line pissed me off, getting shit service at a restaurant pisses me off, a flat tire pisses me, i could go on and on about it but im sure you catch my drift
Again it sound to me you are trying to do this pseudo intellectual shift of the discussion into my supposedly troubled emotional/mental state, seems like the text book definition of a ad hominem to dismiss my opinions in a opinion asking thread
>why shouldn't movies appeal to my daughters as well as my sons? Never said that, there is a shit ton of movies for every demographic What im talking about would be akin to making a barbie that appeals to boys, there is plenty to go for each
Im all for original content gping either way what "pisses me off" as you put it, is having established franchises having characters and political ideas forced into it. Wanna make a movie about a female kick ass hero? cool just dont make something like Antoniette Stark
>Your anti-semitism Not once did i talk about jews in this thread
I don't look at Star Wars movies for the hurrrr acting or rando bullshit you faggots claim. Fucking loved Star Wars cause it was cool shit with simple shit happening.
That being said, SW - E7 was absolute shit. 1. Kylo Ren. The fuck is his problem? 2. Biw caster sends people flying, but not Kylo? When the fuck was Kylo stronger than Ki Adi Mundi? 3. Continuity was absolutely trashed. Yeah, cause fuck the other shit that happened a long time ago. 4. They didn't fucking know the Force existed? What the literal shit!? Fucking Vader killing people with the Force is apparently forgettable? Fuck this.
Could go on, but there's just too much to rage about this piece of shit of a movie. It had literally ruined Star Wars for me. Never watching this shit again. I'm gonna stick to knowing 1-6; the better movies.
>>675707730 It had the potential to be an incredible movie. The first half or so was building up to be something fucking amazing. ...But then it quickly disintegrated into the exact same CGI war that every sci-fi/fantasy movie for the past 15 years has concluded with. Ruined itself just when it was getting good.
>>675690352 Man remebering when my family wanted to see it and my two bros saw it and thought it was a good move. After seeing the trailor after they did I thought it was just another horrible reboot. Then after hearing about the pandering to the SJWs and feminist, I watched it. I was disappointed an come on don't make another death star but now planet. Rehashing the death star and making a darth vader look alike and pandering to the groups I hate killed it for me.
really awful, and not because of the imaginary sociopolitical issues faggots on /b/ keep transferring onto it. It lacked scope, the acting was bad, the direction was bad, it just felt trivial as a whole...which is really saying something considering they killed off a major character and technically had a more powerful weapon than in the original series.
Lots of deus ex machina and forced causality and other shit-tier movie-making bullshit. Will NOT be seeing 8 in theaters, if at all.
>>675692111 Probably my favorite new character. I don't like him because he's edgy or whatever, just that he's young and misguided and probably still has something good left in him. He served well as the main component to advancing the plot.
>>675696051 >Fisher fucked Lucas and others to get the role >She was fucking Ford through most of the filming >She and Ford were fighting through most of Empire and it's apparent. For the carbonite scene they were barely speaking to each other off set and the lines said were partially ad-libbed >Fisher fucked fans just to fulfill their fantasies
I'm not usually attracted to slutty women, but all that shit is pretty fucking hot.
Better than prequels obviously, but that's a low bar. I didn't like it because it was astoundingly unoriginal. The defecting storm trooper was the only new idea they had. Everything else was a mindless rehash of episodes IV and V
>>675692111 If the Mary Sue hadn't been so OP maybe he would have been slightly interesting. As it was, he posed no threat whatsoever. By far the least intimating villain ever in Star Wars.
And his helmet was stupid. Abrams talked about going through like 1000 different pieces of concept art before coming up with Kylo Ren's helmet. Really? This was the best you could come up with? Ok maybe the helmet isn't actually bad or anything, but for all the effort they put into it it's really unimpressive. I'm sure any dumbass on this board could come up with a better face for a sith lord if they tried.
>>675690352 worse than the prequels on a cinematic level. there is nothing to be gained by watching the film aside from brief distraction from your life. therefore i must assume that the only people that can actually be fans of such a mediocrity of cinema are people whose lives are so terrible that even something this bland is enough to distract them for just a little while.
>>675693313 I actually wish we'd seen more of the thing. That starkiller base was pretty cool looking, but didn't have much of a presence in the film. The original Death Star was a fortress they'd had to infiltrate and fight their way out of, so when it blew up at the end we cared about it. The thing had had a presence in the film. Not so with the starkiller. It was just there: something that we could watch explode at the end of the film. Because there was no way in hell it was going to NOT be destroyed at the end.
That and the fact that it was just a death star ripoff pissed me off. I mean if you're going to rip off the death star and add some "artificial planet" elements from the Halo series, at least do it well
>>675697975 Yea, I didn't like that he was able to do that. The force used to be a whole lot more subtle than it is now. A torpedo would change direction or a guard would be fooled, but nothing crazy. Now jedi are basically gods that can throw planets at their enemies if they want to. It's less fun that way. Like if you can stop bullets with your mind why the fuck do you even need a sword
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