These guys should really check out if jetfuel can't

>>602538769

>it can't

also check em

>>602538769
yes

why dont you chekum yourself ive had a steel beam on my BBQ for 3 1/2 months now and it has t even bent yet

>>602538769
They should also prove that vaccinations cause autism.

>>602541081
you see that word 'jetfuel' dipshit?

>>602538769
they did.
it can't.

>>602538769
They already did the moon landing where they blatantly ignored any scientific approach to the validity of the event.

>>602538769
Doesn't need to melt the beams. Only needs to weaken them enough to collapse.
Fuck, you conspiracy fags are potato headed morons.

>>602538769
They did it, about 5 years ago. They had a steel beam over burning jet fuel, and they put a large object on the beam. After a few minutes, the beam softened, bent, the large object fell off, then the softened beam collapsed into the fire. It didn't liquify the beam, but it softened it enough for it to lose strength, and collapse.

>>602542442
video link perhaps?

>>602542201
>validity of the moon landing
:^)

>>602541762
Yeap Jetfuel, that Kero based product which burns very slowly and comparatively cool in atmospheric conditions, same stuff they use in oil lamps because it burns slow and low.

>>602542600
this

>>602541665
they dont you dipshit

>>602538769
The two biggest shills on television? That would be a good idea. If they do something to show how to "beat the law" you can guarantee 99.9% of the time it's impossible even though you know fine well it's entirely possible. Remember when they "busted" the myth you can beat the entirely beatable breathalyzer? Remember when they "busted" the myth you can beat the entirely beatable speed camera if you're going fast enough. You've even seen ones where they'll bust something and then say they didn't or completely confirm something and say it's only plausible. That was the reason most people stopped watching. The early seasons when they weren't known worldwide with a huge following were actually done properly with proper results. Suddenly Obama asks them to test something and they're official disinfo agents working for the NSA.

>>602541665
Read recently that the feds in the middle east are arresting parents who don't vaccinate their kids.

Fucking towel heads beat us to it.

metal furnaces cant boil metal, therefore you cannot forge iron and the whole history and industry to modern times is false and there are no such thing as deforming metal to you liking. Wake up!

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>>602544040

>>602542442
i call bullshit

>>602538769
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat. "I have never seen melted steel in a building fire," says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. "But I've seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks."

>>602545033
Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F

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>>602538769
Prepare to LOOSE faggots
>Pic Related

>>602545033
Not in freeburn conditions it doesn't.

http://www.statoilaviation.com/en_EN/pg1332347009500/ar1334072083204/SFRAviation/fuel_jeta1.html

> Open air burning temperatures 260-315 °C (500-599 °F)

>>602544040
holy shit you are retarded. you have been watching too much fox news.

They should remake 9/11 on a tiny dcale, then ask tory to fly a plane into buildings of the same capacity

>>602545560
Just get him to jump a skateboard into it.

>>602545299
The jet fuel was the ignition source, It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and the towers were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down

the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F

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>building 7

>>602545261
lol
10/10

the ghostbusters why?

>>602545560
Tory isn't on the show any more

OP here, im a faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjMuA7skL0k

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>>602545804
Thankyou, you're the first person that I've seen understand this on /b/

>>602542442
Good goyim

>>602538769
Niggers don't understand how furnaces work. I understand that this is a troll question but I'm sure some idiot truthers are out there thinking that jet fuel can't in fact melt steel.

Pretty sure it was a gas leak.

>>602545829
Samefagging your own post.

>>602545261
2/10 not funny.

>>602546420
Of course it can, when under pressure and fed pressurised air or oxygen but it's never going to when free burning in the atmosphere, never.

>>602542201
This episode was stupide. They did everything to fake a moon landing, succeeded, then said it was busted.

>>602545827

This

>>602545261
lol
10/10

>>602545261
lol
10/10

>>602545261
lol
10/10

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>>602546700

>>602545261
lol
10/10

>2015
>still believing pancake theory

>>602546828
>>602546936
>>602547142

please stop >>602547307

regards,
op

>>602547374
Lol
10/10

>>602547297
>Clearly never worked with kero or diesel.

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>>602547782

>>602545804
was about to write exactly this

>>602538769
There's more to the problem than that question. There's the free-fall rate of falling along with the plumes to the sides of the buildings in areas not yet affected by the collapse. And then there's the basic improbability -- no fire has ever before or since taken a skyscraper down. And mere debris took wtc7 down? Please. How stupid do they think people are? I have YET to meet a structural engineer or architect who buys into the story.

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GOOD THING YOU WORK IN A FIRE HOUSE

>coz you just got burned

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Hey guys Adam Savage here! AMA

>>602545299
>freeburn
You realize the wind at 1300ft is usually 3-4 times that of the surface, right?

>>602548916
no its not him

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>>602549404
Sure as fuck looks like him you fag

>>602549558
>implying assholes on the internet are who they claim to be

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so are these guys actually respected amongst /b/tards?

personally i enjoy the show.

>>602549333
You realise how diesel/kero/jet a1 burns right?
All that black smoke pouring out of the building, that's the jeta1 burning poorly, not receiving enough oxygen which it never will unless it is fed oxygen directly. There's numerous reasons it's used for jet engines, it's ease of handling, low natural burn temp and ignition difficulty being 3 main ones.

>>602542908
Firstly, you are comparing burning temperature of kerosene to burning temperature of kerosene derivative. One does not merely call them equal unless one is potato. In the middle of that burning inferno the temperature would not be the same as the burning temperature of the fuel as read off Wikipedia. There are more principles to account for as the initial fire spreads and ignites more materials.

Second you don't need to melt any steel. You know the bits before melting? When it goes soft and weak? Well, a soft weak steel beam can't keep the building together...

Not forgetting that there are hundreds of cases of solvent fires where you'd think the same thing of the temperature but you find bending of tanks and other metal things.

>>602542405
Unless it weakened the entire building, there's no way it would have collapsed like that. And what about building 7?

>>602550300
Nope because you only need to destabilise one little bit before the mass resting above the weakened point to fall, then the lower areas collapse under the force of the top floors falling on them. That's why it happened top down with the top part roughly in tact in the instant it began to fall.

>>602549860
Ok, lets start from the beginning.

1:NOWHERE did I imply it didn't or can't weaken the building - but I am stating it can't "melt" steel when burning in an atmospheric state, not going to happen.
2:Jeta1 has massively similar burn properties to Kero and Diesel, Diesel engines are run on it regularly - see, most diesels in the US military
>In the middle of that burning inferno the temperature would not be the same as the burning temperature of the fuel as read off Wikipedia.
3:So what you are saying is the other flammables in the fire are what is actually contributing to the heat and the jeta1 will simply be starving other combustibles of oxygen.
4:My entire point in every one of these threads is the Jeta1 by itself doesn't melt the steel, it simply creates the ignition point and brings other combustibles up to ignition temperature and the subsquent inferno is what does the harm.

I try to tackle the whole "jet fuel" thing first as for some reason the world seems to think it's some sort of super fuel which burns with the fury of a small sun, when in fact it's a fuel which burns horribly when it isn't supplied with direct oxygen sources.

>I do wonder why I even try