They try to say the things that hurt because they are puny little people. They can't physically do shit, because they're pussies. Literally. Unless you are dating a Spartan or a Amazonian. Don't EVER break up with a Spartan or Amazonian.
>>600260555 >And does every woman turn into a cold hearted bitch when shes not longer into you?
Probably not, but it does happen and there's a possible evolutionary explanation; women may be more adept than men at moving on from a loss because it was necessary for survival. If a primitive woman's mate was killed and replaced by another male, she had to be able to get over it quick and adapt to her new circumstances.
It doesn't mean women don't become distraught by the end of a relationship, just that they pull themselves together and move on much faster than men do.
because women don't really understand emotions. They have them sure, but do not understand, that's why they always talk about them. they are generally better at talking about emotions because they do it more but men generally have a base or natural depth, breadth and awareness of emotion that we function well without it being a problem worthy of discussion. in short women are emotionally stunted and keenly aware.
>>600265076 You can love them, just realize it's conditional. Women are fine, but some men are deluded and fail to see the reality of the female sensibility. You are dealing with an unreasonable, emotional, irrational entity and you should treat it so.
In short don't put the pussy on a pedástool and you'll be fine. You don't have to treat them poorly,but if they think you don't need them or that they are easily replaced that will generally work to your advantage.
In my experience, it is harder for me as a man to both get attached and then get over the attachment. Women seem to get attached to me once I put my dick in them, with the exception of hookers, I have never had a girl not think she is in love with me or whatever after I fuck them. I have had girls that were basically stalking me at one point just completely stop talking to me as if I don't exist basically overnight. I chose my current girl based off her personality more than her looks, so I am hoping I have a real partner finally, as I am hitting 30 and want to have kids now
I had a weird experience. Been dating this chick for about 2 months. She was married young, about 18 yro, told me she divorced later because her ex was a gambler. We were at a date in a restaurant, having dinner. She told me she was gonna make a plastic surgery. I was shocked, but didn't want to show it that much, I gave a smirk and stood up to pay the bill, without a word, not giving it much thought. Later, as we went out the restaurant, she was totally pissed. Seemed to me she was offended that I stood up, she told me that was totally disrespectful of me. We went to my car, and thats when things got insane. She started offending me, screaming and generally being a stuck up bitch. Told me some shit another women never told me in my whole life, for such a stupid thing. I tried to reason her with her but that wasnt possible. She broke up with me that night, although i treated her as a princess... gifts, travelled over 400km to see her every 2nd weekend etc. TL;DR; Feels bad men.
>>600265677 i know anon. Its just im disaffected right now. The first girl ive slept with first let me hang in for a month after seeing each other 3 month. And when i told her i want to talk about that and that id understand if she doesnt want to see me anymore and everything,..... she didnt even write a bullshit excuse or bye or anything. just nothing
>>600265677 Yeah definitely, I treated my ex fiance like a queen, I was basically a long (5 years) rebound guy. I am funny, nice, big dick, decent looking, romantic etc. she had a neglectful guy before me, thought I was the best thing ever. Then she got cold, left me, and got knocked up by some older douchebag, fat, poor, unattractive. Think she got bored when I didn't treat her bad after awhile. Idk. Scratch my head about it sometimes.
>>600266035 You can't expect much from them. Although its possible you'll find something worth talking about, that's probably the exception to the rule.
The more you date and the more girls you interact with the less you will fixate like that. The problem is that some guys (myself included) tend to just go after one girl. Although that seems efficient it is less effective. Imagine having one fish on the line, or ten poles lined up on a dock.
>>600260555 Only if you piss her off/hurt her. Try not to apply absolutes like every/all/any to shit that happens in life - it's unrealistic and leads to bigotry which leads to loneliness and misery. Keep smiling and giving people chances - just learn from your past experiences who DESERVES those chances and who doesn't.
Women don't think in terms of what's fair. They think in terms of what feels nice. It's not as though they think, "This is unfair and this is what I want.".. it's just that fairness doesn't occur in their heads. This is because women are emotional. (duh) It makes them capable of incredible displays of love that I've rarely seen men perform, but also makes them capable of incredible acts of cruelty that I don't believe most men are capable of. (This is all excluding psychopaths)
If a woman is chewing toast too loud, a meaner man might say "Shut the hell up! You eat so loud!"
But if a man is eating a piece of toast too loud, a woman might say, "You're a piece of shit and a failure! I don't know why I married you! You're so annoying!"
With women, it's that fact that SOMETHING is annoying them at all, that makes them mad. They hate that ANYTHING would be bothering THEM.
Men are mad at the action itself, because men are more goal oriented.. and maybe mechanically oriented. They see the act as the source of annoyance, and if it would stop, they'd get what they want. Like a tool fixing a loose screw.
While the woman just screams that she hates all the loose screws in the world.
You have to realize that that is how all women tend to see things.. it helped me understand them a lot.
>>600266230 I don't think stability appeals to the younger girls. The less they know, and sadly the worse you treat them the longer they will stick around. I have no idea why. Its something about them thinking that they are expendable to you that attracts them.
Been my experience with LTRs as well. Then again I am about to turn 26 so the chicks I dated did not hit the sweet 30 milf landmark.
They always fell for me because I was aloof, didn't care what they thought of me and just did whatever I wanted.
After we date for a while, I would get nice and show them "marriage" type qualities, and they would be retarded and start dumb fights, argue, push boundaries etc. Then run off for their inner hooker qualities to shine.
Now that I am a bit older, I'm pretty understanding and mature, sound and wise, and more stable, i.e. marriage type, it's like they think of me as an older brother, and they get all protective about who I date "I don't want to see you get hurt, blah blah blah".
>>600266365 i didnt expect much, Just a simple goodbye. idk man. So with that fishpole idea. As soon as they find out theyll cut your dick. i mean i understand it and everything and it works (atleast for some of my friends) but call me a faggot, i just wanted a girl i could love. Guess that was retarded
>>600260555 What I found out was your dick is always tiny after you've broken up. No matter how long you were together, how many times you fucked her and she loved it, once you're finished it's suddenly only the size of a thimble.
Are you shittin' me? Women bitch about every little thing, then they act like you owe them for the times they don't bitch about some bullshit like, not holding their hand enough, or not reading their mind at the right time, or ordering a burger at a restaurant thus "forcing" her to order one too because she can't just watch someone else eat something she wants.. They bitch about how you don't hold them enough when they come home from a tough day, then they bitch when you try to hold them when they're feeling bad about some more bullshit like another girl being prettier than them. AND they bitch when you eat your goddamn toast too loud, IF they WANT to bitch about you eating your goddamn toast too loud.
All the women you've met are just chicks trying to be "bros" playing video games and making fart jokes.. Just try to date one of them and you'll see they're all the same. One day you're happy then the next she's bitching about your fucking toast eating.
>>600266643 By queen I was using a figure of speech, I have never been like whipped. I literally just treated her like an equal, 50/50 on finances (for the most part), talked to her like a friend, etc. I would do the traditionally male things around the house, she would do the traditionally female things. I Am Always dominant sexually. I don't argue, fight, none of that shit. I also don't cheat or abuse women. I think they get bored because bitches have to have a conflict of some sort at all times. I just want to enjoy life and better myself, so I am apparently boring.
>>600267114 no not really to be honest not at all Last girl She wanted me to be romantic, was mad when i didnt respond immediately or shot her off for a day and so on, didnt even want me to talk to other girls. I didnt care. Did everything just to see her happy. Now she doesnt give a shit anymore. And thats okay for me too. I just wanted to find a good ending instead of her ignoring me. that your ,,unrealistic expectations?``
Anyway when I was younger I used to treat women with respect and dignity, was all well and good to get into a relationship and getting into their pants, but usually after the three month mark they would start picking on the small things and turning everything they could into a fight. This happened about three times and it wasn't until I was talking to my dad about it when he explained a golden rule he had used since day one of his relationship with his wife and my mother. "Let them win all the small arguments and when something big comes along just do it without discussing it, they will be so shocked you stood up for yourself they won't know how to react."
Now this advice is all fine and good, but when I was discussing it with my grandmother (My dads side) she simply said to me "You know why your grandfather and I have been together so long, because I know the secret, men only want four things in this life, a full stomach, an empty ballsack, a cold beer and time to be alone in peace and quiet. You just need to find a woman who will give you that."
So I managed to find a woman who was like that (Strangely enough was introduced to me by my grandmother) and I have the easiest marriage you have ever seen, I do all the small things, let her win the small arguments and when it comes to big things such as stock purchases or purchasing a new car I just do it and tell her later.
>>600260555 >And does every woman turn into a cold hearted bitch when shes not longer into you? no, only the ones who where cold hearted before but you didn't notice because she let you fuck her 3 times a day.
>>600261278 don´t try to explain modern relationships with evolutionary reasons. Monogamous realtionships and even moreso marriages are a social construct enforced by religions and other ideologies. We are slowly moving back to a natural state of alpha males having a harem of women which they get rid off sometime after they have born him a child and the weak unsuccessful males not having relationships at all. It´s natural for a woman to lose interest in a man after some time and the same goes the for the other way round.
>>600268213 It's also natural for women to fuck whenever they want with whoever they want. Do you like that part of natural behavior too? No, you'll fight that to the end with "hurr durr women kitchne plsss"
>>600260555 >be me >read this thread >couldbeusefullandinteresting >read through everything >my grin is fading away >my balls hurt just from the reading >seems like they are all batshit insane despite 10% of em >No that cant be >I bet there are nice women out there, like the one im dating curently, >Door flips open >its her >Madness and doom in her eyes >She flips me over scratching my back and squeezing my balls so hard i cant do nothing but freeze and grunt >Spanks my ass and tells me how im useless for beeing nice and rational >Rapes my ass >Insane is love >Insane is life
>>600268310 You do actually have an IQ of 85, don't you? There's no shame in that, but once you realize how retarded you are, you can try to adapt to a simpler life. One where you can play with bricks and such. You'll be happy one day anon.
Essentially treat them you would a child. If they do something that pisses you off punish them. Let it be known she's pissed you off but unlike children make she knows at the back of her head that she's replaceable. At the same time show plenty of love and affection but like I said when she does something wrong, make sure you punish her. whether silent treatment or just seeming to lose interest in her.
Learnt that from my current g/f. Used to be an absolutely stuck up bitch. In every sense of the word. Didnt give a shit how anyone felt or who she hurt. She had a pretty rough past which sometimes bothers me (Im little bit inscure cause I was a virgin, she had 4 b/fs and 1 hookup) and daddy issues. Then I came along. I was all nice and romantic in the beginning. Took her out distracted her from her bullshit past. But I let her vent and anytime she did Id listen and offer advice. There was 1 guy she was in love with at the time which really fucked me up. She was also suicidal and depressed. Anyway put up with it, accidentally knocked her up, aborted (being muslim she had problems coming to terms) helped her through everything.
But heres the thing. Id occasionally remind her of how Ive always been there for her. But if she ever did something that pissed me off I made sure I punished her one way or another. Biggest thing I learnt with her though, sometimes you have to say no. And flirt with other girls in front of her. Dont be obvious though. And talk about other girls to her but not too much.
Anyway, now she's head over heels in love with me. Shes deathly afraid of losing me and will do just about anything I say.
TL;DR - > Be romantic and a good listener > Be there for her > Be Loyal > Learn to punish her if she fucks up but dont take it too far > Keep her on her toes (light flirt with other girls, talk about others but not too much) > Subtly make sure she she knows you have options
Anyway, thats what I learnt. Hope it helps someone
>>600268421 It doesn´t matter what i want, it´s just human nature and you can´t argue with that. I´m by no means a womanizer but this kind of behaviour can also be exploited for your own good. It´s easy to fake attractive personality traits for a short time.
>find 7/10 >amazing cook so that bumps her to an 8 at least if not a 9 >date for 2 years >put a ring on that shit >within a year of being married she gains 75 pounds >will burp and try to make it loud vs covering it up >will lift her fat ass legs up, scrunch up her face and let out nasty as farts >hardly ever says escuse me after doing disgusting shit like that
cant do jack fucking shit about it because if we split i would loose so much shit and have to fork over a good part of my paycheck for child support because lets face it the wimmins get the kids.
i bought my house before we were married and its just my name on the title. same with my car. so i at least have a fighting chance at keeping those.
but my 401K would be plundered and i would end up having to sell the house because child support.
>>600269099 If you have ever tried to reason with a female you'd realize how utterly pointless it is. You cannot reason with unreasonable people. You have to treat them children as the other can on said. They comprehend consequences and volitity.
I noticed that a thing like this has happened in my relationship (letting small argument pass through you, and standing your ground on bigger issuers), and I've never heard an advice like this before! I can confirm that by doing so, the relationship keeps very stable!
>>600269581 Trick is to maintain control of all aspects and let her motor mouth all she wants. As long as you control the resources who cares what she Says. Women are pointless to argue with. But they are generally dumb so easily controlled.
>>600269369 She's had plenty of chances to do so but she didnt. I know she hasnt cause once she was really wasted and gave a guy her number while we were out. She came up to me teary eyed and told me. I flipped my shit at her and took her home. She apologized profusely so eventually I let it go.Being gorgeous she gets asked out A LOT, by guys that are not only better looking but more successful than I am but always turns them down.
Truer words were never spoken. That's why marriage is such a bad idea. The moment you marry the bitch, or even qualify to be considered a "common law marriage", she OWNS your ass, your house, your car, half your retirement fund, and your kids. That's why women get so shitty in marriages. They know they finally can.
Contracts are only worth shit in family/divorce courts. Damn son, google it, prenups are thrown ot left right and centre for the most ridiculous reasons. Like she said you've browbeaten her into it. Or tricked. Or she didn't understand what she was actually signing.
>>600265677 >In short don't put the pussy on a pedástool and you'll be fine.
This is one of the BIGGEST things to take away from here. The problem is when you fall in love (in to deep), the faults of the person you love disappear and you could make the mistake of thinking they are perfect. Make sure you have notice small warning signs: > Daddy issues > Tattoos > Feninazi follower >Emotionally unstable > Shit that could potentially make her turn on you on day
I'm not saying that all girls with Tattoos or Daddy issues are wrong but a good portion of them are fucked in the head.
>>600270271 She knows Id ruin her if she fucks me over. Ive made it very clear that her sisters are very much up for grabs. Ill flirt openly with them and she knows they both have a crush on me,
Ive pissed her off more times than I can count. She'll usually chuck a fit, storm off, yell and so on. But at the end of the day if shes wrong she apologizes. She knows all too well what happens if she goes too far.
She tried to do it once. By flirting with a guy to get back at me. I let her then I did the same and watched her burn up.
>>600261900 Underrated post. My last ex, when I finally confronted her on why she was treating me like shit for months after she ended it, told me she didn't even know why she dumped me in the first place.
IF you're women, give it up, you know we're right and there's no changing the fact that men are waking p to your bullshit.
If yo're young guys, ask yourself why is it that almost all men with some experience in dating/marriage/cohabitation have such similar stories to share? Why so many men seem to be so "bitter", as you put it?
>>600273440 Nope, not a woman. Not all men have your faggy problems with women. It's so fucking funny how fags like you always assume that we can't be men and that "men are waking up" or bullshit like that. Haha, you're all such fucking fags.
It's simple dude, if you're having bad experiences with women, you're the common denominator. You're either ugly, stupid, or socially awkward. That's it. That's all. Deal with your shitty life. I just come to these threads to laugh at little fags like you. It's hilarious.
I've been divorced twice and am in my 50s now. I love pussy as much as any guy but wow am I done with the bullshit that almost always comes with it. western women are the most privileged and entitled humans on the planet and almost all have the most hypocritically base and transactional view of the relationships with men they spread their legs for. they'll claim they're being oppressed constantly even as they drag the goalposts of their happiness around to further and more difficult parts of the field, demanding of their men to keep them happy.
I initiated my second divorce after I woke up one day and realized I'd spent almost a decade trying to keep a woman happy who had zero intention of ever being happy. no matter what I did for her she was always just re formulating and adding to her list of unreasonable demands. the fact that I was gone all day working 60-80 hours a week to support both of us in a nice house was ignored. after another hard day of watching the maid clean up and listening to Oprah tell her she had the hardest job in the world she'd have all her fresh complaints lined up like ducks in a row for when I got home in the evening. she'd stand there with an oh-there-you-are look on her face like I'd been out fishing or getting massages before starting in on what exactly I was doing wrong in our marriage. that was how she felt she had a right to spend the couple of weekday hours we had together in the evenings, picking fights with me.
domestic abuse comes in many forms and from watching the women that I and my cohort have dated and married (not to mention my own mother) I fully believe that women cause the vast majority of it. recent stats show they physically attack their men at least as much as men attack them but I sincerely doubt men hold a candle to women when it comes to emotional abuse.
my advice to young men is never marry and never ever get them pregnant.
contd: ...who aren't like this but I think they're as rare as unicorns. best bet is to get really good at something that provides you with stature if not actual fame. then you can get pussy all the time and chuck it when it gets too demanding like it always does.
>>600274275 >over a dozen congruent experiences Ooh wow, over a dozen /b/tards slapping their chest is much better. You people are so hilarious. I love how you fags just come on /b/ to cry over your failures, hahaha.
>>600274485 also, when people mention divorce stats as being 50% they're forgetting all the marriages that don't end in divorce that should. success rate for a durably happy lifelong marriage is about 10%. women initiate around 75% of divorces by the way. men don't as often because we're conditioned with a s3nse of duty and obligation that women have far less of.
>>600275381 Sure, I'll hold on to reality and you can keep taking pictures. Also, holy shit - 'for hours'? You need to get out more. Seriously. Get a life. That's what's causing your failures in life with women - your lack of a life outside of 4chan.
4: Get her knocked up by "mistake", lose any and all power you had in the relationship.
5: Watch in horror as she turns into a blubberbeast after dropping a turd of a rugrat.
6: OR, watch in horror as she divorces you (50% of marriages end this way, and 75% of the time its the woman who initializes), takes your kids, half yor shit, and a sizeable portion of yor fture earnings.
Seriously, you kids will only learn the hard way. Makes me kinda sad.
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