I think we need a general General thread. Let us start with Napoleon.

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Washington.

>>599565645
he was shit
let the Nazis take france
put up little to no fight

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contributing with zod

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where the fuck am I?

>>599565854
Napoleon was before the Nazi invasion. I believe that you may be referring to Bismark, who was after the Second Reich.

>>599565993
Oh shit nigger its efg

>>599565993
Hello efg. Have some dubs

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this is some strange thread, although Zod was a nice touch.

>>599565993
The fuck

>>599565993
top kek

>>599565993
What the fuck?
>>599566296

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>>599565993
you will find a gun .... DONT TAKE IT

>>599565993
Dude you're in the wrong place
Back to >>599566165

>>599566380
Take the gun if dubs, else don't.

>>599566296
Efg you shouldn't have gone through that portal man, it's bad news

>>599566401
faggot

>>599566380
this

if you take the gun you're a faggot and deserve everything you get

you will be renamed "epic faggot guy"

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I wonder where else this will take me...?

>>599565966
Not bad, though I cannot say I was expecting Krypton Generals.

>>599565993
FOUND YOU, YA RAT BASTARD.

>>599566539
Don't do it

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“May God have mercy for my enemies because I won't.”

>>599566539
YOU MOTHERFUCKER.

>>599565993
Well then. . . .

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>>599566561
Didn't say they had to be human generals.

Holy shit. EFG, I fucking love you.

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catch me if you can /b/!

>>599566775
That is true.

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In the absence of orders, go find something and kill it.”
The guy was an amazing general but we was not the best to quote.

>>599566822
Turrah!

>>599566822
GODDAMNIT I JUST GOT HERE

>>599566822
FIND HIM

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The one and only.

>>599566898
Rommel was a fantastic general, one of my favourites.

>>599566958
I FOUND EFG!

>>599566822
FIND SPIDERM- I MEAN THAT MOTHERFUCKER AND BRING ME HIS SORRY ASS SO I CAN PUT SALT IN THE WOUNDS MY BOOT WILL INFLICT ON HIS DICK

>>599567152
You have been promoted to "Sergeant Find-The-Rat"

>>599567152
You're my hero, anon.

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Though, as far as non European generals go, I have to hand it to Lee.

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The greatest general from the states, Stonewall Jackson. Also Patton was the only American general that could have served on the Wehrmacht.

>>599567417
>>599566775
As I did. :)

>>599567510
Jackson is a close second for me. That is something the Confederates had on the Union, fantastic fucking Generals.

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>>599567510
>greatest
>Stonewall Jackson
>not William Tecumseh Sherman

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>>599567417
>>599567510
>faggots
>not glorious William Tecumseh Sherman

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Going back in time. Who here likes ancient generals? Pic related. Probably the greatest ancient general there was. He beat Hannibal and in my mind could have beat Caesar and Phyrrus. Beating Alexander is another story but Titus proved himself in the long run. Something Alexander did not.

>>599568037
Get out of my head nigga.

>>599567858
Things would have been different at Gettysburg if Jackson had been there. The whole Pickett disaster would never have happened. Jackson was Lee's right hand.

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>>599567417
Lee was actually against secession and slavery.

Keeping on the Civil War theme, have some Unconditional Surrender.

>>599568037
>William Tecumseh Sherman
I don't know, he lacked class, as opposed to Lee or Jackson. But, other than Grant, he was the only good Union general.

>>599568037
>>599568122
Butcher, just like all the Union generals since the War of Northern Aggression. Sherman was a 3rd rate drunk and a 4th rate general. War criminal.

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>why couldn't he be the commandant

>>599568140
I guess if you limit your scope to Europeans. Globally no one in the ancient world rivaled Genghis.

“I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you"

>>599568243
Hmm, I suppose he was good at leading battles, but as far as choreographing the actual Confederate attacks, Lee has him beat.

Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington

/thread

>>599568606
If by butcher, you mean a true American hero unlike the southern faggots, then yes.

>>599568931
What? Khan was good at butchering, but that was about it. When taking over what would become the Mongol empire, he broke every rule possible that comes with establishing an empire. I suppose that worked for him, but it was a poor tactic nonetheless.

>>599569292
I agree he did what he thought necessary, but like I said previously, he lacked class. He was like Khan in that sense. (As a note, I am not the person you were responding to)

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>>599569292
>nigger or white guilt yankee apologist detected

>>599565854

Napoleon was before The Franco-Prussian War AND WW2...

Imagine if Lee had accepted Lincoln's offer as general.

>>599569292
Also, he is the father of the term 'total war' for a reason. Tanks were named after him.

Sherman admitted himself that he was guilt of war crimes.

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>>599569915
>(As a note, I am not the person you were responding to)
I assumed as much. Who needs class? As a general you just need to be able to effectively lead your forces in fucking the other guy up.

>>599569920
>product of southern "education" detected
>also, implying I'm either of those things

>>599569589
If he was simply "good at butchering," he would have slaughtered the Chinese mercenary army sent to repel him, instead of absorbing them into his force.

>>599569589
Read Genghis Khan and the making of the modern world, it might change some of your opinions. Not the butchering g part, that shot happened. But he established one of the first meritocracies, enacted religious pluralism, concentrated knowledge centers, changed the course of history for his people, crafted an approach to warfare that devastated his opponents, etc. The idea he was a simple plundering barbarian does him and his people a massive disservice.

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>>599570159
They teach Jackson and Lee at West Point and VMI, very little of Sherman. Classless drunk and butcher with little talent and no soul. A typical yankee.

>>599570630
>They teach Jackson and Lee at West Point and VMI
It is important to learn how not to lose a war, yes.

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>>599568140
I'm psychotic about ancient generals but Titus never grabbed me. My be all and end all is scipio africanus. He was prideful, young, he saved rome, and was both a fighter and a political genius. Literally the high point of ancient republicanism.

>>599570386
A General needs class, otherwise you loose more resources than you need to. While effective, total war is lazy and expensive.

>>599571160
>A General needs class
Spoken like a true pogue.

>>599570507
This was a very irregular course of action for him though. I will grant you that it was wise though.

>>599570522
I don't disagree with you that he was a good leader of his nation, just a poor General.

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>>599570945
You are a fool.

>>599571316
Actually he routinely absorbed in his defeated foes into his army or had his people marry the defeated people in order to establish them as his vassals worthy of protection.

>>599571727
That really means nothing coming from anyone from below the Mason-Dixon line.

>>599571289
I'm not saying you need to be nice, but you need to account for the resources you are spending. That, and you to think more long term for your actions.

>>599572023
That's not class, that's fucking forethought.

>>599571778
I was unaware of that. I suppose that it makes sense though, at least when referring to the east coast. But if I am not mistaken, as his empire spread west, that sort of formality fell apart. But I could be wrong. To be honest, my knowledge of Asian Generals is not fantastic. I only know some rudimentary facts about Khan.

>>599571641
I guess I'm not understanding your metric for a great general. If you crush your foes by force or win their loyalty through diplomacy, expand your territory successfully I'm not sure how you aren't a great general. The mounted tactics they perfected were the first blitzkrieg. Inferior numbers consistently defeating larger numbers. But I'm not a military historian to be honest, so if there is some other measure you are using to.judge the success of a general I would be genuinely interested in being educated.

>>599572268
Which requires you to be classy. A brute throws the clay, a gentleman makes a vase of it.

>>599572428
Well my knowledge on the Romans is about zero so we are about even

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Grant. Burn it all to the ground. Filthy hick rebels.

>>599572617
You are a gigantic faggot.

>>599572541
I suppose it comes to the fact that I admire class in a General. A man that can crush his enemies while maintaining his gentleman composure is admirable. Though, if all you care for is efficiency, than brute force works, at least temporarily, until the people you oppressed up rise.

>>599572857
I am on /b/ and made a thread about Generals. Don't you think I already knew that?

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Caesar is also a badass. I love those guys who just gave literally no fucks and took their luck as far as it would take them.

Worlds most ironic (apparent) last words after living a life of power based on violence: "but this is force!"

>>599572701
Sounds fair enough.

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Apparently Stonewall Jackson is one of my ancestors, I'm not a direct descendant or anything but I'm pretty sure my great grandma told me about it once.

You don't get a name like Stonewall unless you were a pretty good general.

>>599572857
But do not get me wrong, I think simultaneously, a good General needs to have a semi-Machiavellian approach to what he does. However, complete and utter destruction is not that.

>>599573154
Different anon here cutting into your debate.

Class in a general? Sorry but you are putting these guys on the wrong pedestal, any "class" displayed by any successful general in the history of mankind was a simple veneer. You cant be a great general and not be a viscous thug... It's literally their job. They kill for a living. Normally any extreme displays of what you call "class" are carefully executed manipulations ie not killing off your defeated enemy in an attempt to win their hearts and minds.

>>599574133
Explain Rommel to me then.