morphine and codeine are 2 of the many naturally occurring alkaloids found in "opium". when you think of morphine as a pill or IV drip, that is simply a very refined version for medical purposes. morphine is, in fact, the most prevalent psychoactive opiate in most PST recipes.
How does it compare to kratom and heroin? I find that if you use kratom occasionally its comparable to heroin. But I like heroin better because you can use it five times a day and feel good every single time.
>>599484724 you realize you're a dumbass and dont know what your talking about. shit i could show you how pinned my eyes are? believe me there are unwashed seeds. washing them is expensive, so cheap+bulk=good seeds. i usually get much better seeds than the 1.4 lb containers. 5lb blank bags from same store have me nodding hard on like 1.5lb
man i wish i knew where the poppy seed washing factory are :D
Just pour it off into a cup. A few seeds won't hurt you. Put it in a mason jar with a lid that has a few holes punched in it and shake after you pour off the good stuff to get the rest. You're leaving half or more of your alkaloids on that sock.
>>599485175 I'm referring to the food grade seeds as well as planting seeds. A few seeds on a bun won't get you sick, it's the cups worth used that will. But hey, do what you want, I'm not your mommy. I told you what I know from a reputable source.
>>599487542 then use slaked lime and ammonium chloride like the heroin producers. Just skip the last step that uses acetic anhydride. That's a DEA listed chemical, and you can't get it unless you own a lab.
>>599486831 it might sound simple but itsa mess and a lot of work, not to mention there is still plant matter in there.
>>599487257 with large amount i will do 2 quick washes. after the seeds are wet you are on a timer. once they swell and release oil the water will become so vile it will make you projectile vomit. i learned from experience, trying to do a second wash the next morning
>>599488612 whos high with a jug of PST? i dont try to make this stuff like a science experiment, its simple shit, so yeah im not measuring and all that. i literally dump my poppy seeds in a gallon then fill it with water about 1 inch above the seedline, giving them room the float around. its been working great for me, i dont understand why your arguing everything i say.
>>599489852 ok yeah thats always there. i was talking about reusing the seeds. after the water soaks in them and they swell up, the water you use will turn an off white milky color and is vile (and that word means something coming from the guy that drinking this morphine puddle water every day).
i am reffering to the act of smoking opium itself, it was known in china as 'madak' and was deemed a pursuit of the lower classes. upper class quaffed their opium, but they did smoke cigars/cigarettes.
>>599492107 i used to mix it with yogurt, only way i could down the powdered shit, still its pricer than PST, i used to pay like $14 for idk how much, a little package that would give me like 4 doses. i guess it was like 30 or 40 grams. but i could only use it like once a week, otherwise i couldnt feel it.
poppy seed tea is the real deal, half the price 10x the length
Socks? Jeez. Heres an easy recepie for you savages on here.
1. Eat a benadryl half hour before. 2. Buy a 2 liter mountain dew, pour about two thirds out. 3. Get a approx a pound and half of seeds, cut a hole in the bottom corner of the seed container (less mess) 4. Pour into bottle, close and shake for about 5 minutes. (its a workout) 5. Open the cap so that liquid exits but seeds remain inside. 6. Eat another dyphenhydramide 7. Pour out the contents and chug it. 8. Throw the evidence away
>>599494196 op here, since we have a few users around im wondering if anyone has tried any of the new RC benzos? i ordered clonazolam a few days ago, kind of scared to mix it with poppy seeds, giving the uncertainty of both substances
ive done this before and everyone was wondering how i would always buy so many, which is a good question, so i will answer it anyways.
a person like me thats been using PST for years has gone through many sources, checking literally every grocery store in 25 mile radius. i used to buy them from a health food store full of sassy hipsters, and the worst response i ever got was when i was with a friend buying 10 1 pound bags (lol) and the sassy bitchy cashier says "I know what your doing with these, we just fired a kid for stealing them to get high too! im going to get my manager, i wont sell you these!" she storms off. manager comes back and i ask if my money is no good here and he personally checks me out and gives me his employee discount for other lady being a cunt, she may have been fired over that, i never saw her again. remember nothing im doing is illegal until i strain the liquid (even then...)
most of the time i just tell people its for baking, i get weird looks but my big ass balls in my pants just dont give a fuck. currently i actaully have an open account with the russian market and they order seeds just for me. they are great people and i bring them good business.
>>599495294 did you read my post on 420chan? those are actually the exact three i just ordered
nifozipam is shit :( really man? can you elaborate. i only ordered 25 of them but still. i ordered only 10 flubrozolam cause i was afarid hearing about how strong and addicting they are. should have gotten 25 flubOLAM's :/
Fuck pst has made its way to 4chan. Lol I drank it for years, only seen threads recently. Too bad my opiate addiction is now hundreds of milligrams of oxycodone injected per day. Pst got to the point I'd need 10 pounds washed in 4 litres of lemonade for the shit to work. Opiates are a slippery slope
>>599483742 i used to drink pod tea every day starit from the farmer in washington state sadly he slipped up and told a narc that they could be made into tea he got busted then had a heart attack and died he gave them to me for almost free too
haha no i didn't, hivemind well, the 2mg nifoxipams are garbage, they haven't been dosed properly. the 0.5s have amazing reviews on bluelight, but i haven't tried them.
tolerance shoots up rapidly with flubolams my personal favourite is clonazolam, but watch out, they're right up there with phenazepam vis a vis the blackouts. great for me tho because my tolerance is ridiculously high :)
i wouldn't mix clonazolam or flubrozolam with opiates. too strong
>>599496619 Yeah it's a big problem. I bought over 40bottles of pills from a guy in Florida years ago on silkroad, actually met him in person at disneyworld after I bought them lol. Paid about 2bux/100mg of oxy and had just sold my dead fathers estate. So I got quite a lot to sell. But I ended up just doing them instead since I have so many. I've also acquired a lot over agora marketplace recently because they were fairly cheap
>>599485405 this man speaks the truth morphine and codeine are super water soluble thats why this tea works well another thing to remember is the temp the hotter the water you use seems to make it steep faster but these opiates are heat sensitive so its a fine balance i find just above room temp is perfect
>>599497036 I take Klonopin, and have for years. When discontinued, the withdrawal is horrific, and worse than bupe withdrawal. I'd steer clear of using that shit regularly except at therapeutic type doses.
Hey op, I just started pst recently when I found the local supermarket selling 250g hoyts brand seeds. I use two containers and have only done it about three times so far so have a bit of work to do to get the extraction right. I do two washes but have never finished the second glass, end up throwing it out the next day partly because it tastes like utter shot but my favorites past is going to bed it feels amazing and I love the itch. The next day is pretty awesome too.
>>599498694 If you can get a hold of some Neurontin or Lyrica, it can help you get off the benzos. Ceiling doses are 3600 mg for Neurontin, and 600 mg for Lyrica. Taking more than 3600 of Neurontin is just pissing it away. Lyrica is stronger and you can take more than 600, but there's diminishing returns, and it can turn you into a zombie and give you aphasia for days, so stay within therapeutic range. There's no reason to waste it if you're just relief seeking.
I take 600 mg of Lyrica a day for diabetic neuropathy. It almost totally fixes my anxiety, and it's great for depression and migraines.
>>599498694 i think were gona see a lot of horrible benzo addictions in the next few years, its so easy and cheap to get this stuff, and the analogues are getting better and better. there are people out there eating 100mg of etizolam everyday just to keep withdrawal at bay. people go to doctors and they cant help cause they cant give valium conversions (for a taper) for drugs they dont know about
i read an interesting post about research being done to schedule flubrozepam (not the olam, spelling might be off) and use it for benzo addiction taper because half life is even longer than valium
>>599498892 I'll add my bit: *I use a sport bottle because you can shake it then open the top and squeeze the water through, keeping all the seeds contained. *Fill bottle 3/4 with seeds. Add warm water, let sit for 1 minute to let things soften. Then add more warm water, to make a thick seed slurry. *Shake hard 1-2 minutes, squeeze out water *Repeat 2 more times to get more content out *The stuff absorbs better through your mouth lining than stomach, so if you can sip it and hold it in your mouth, instead of chugging. *I've had luck with suppliers on Amazon, and with what I've gotten at Whole Foods (they sell by the pound from a bin). But batches vary and you never know what you're going to get.
ha, there's some great phenaz horror stories out there, one of my friends managed to black out for three days on it and came to in a puddle of his own blood in his apartment, blood pissing out his ear. no memory of what happened.
>>599499331 hey man, ive heard good things about hoyts seeds. never had them personally. try a high dose as well maybe 1000grams or so. be careful man, this stuff is literally just as addicting as heroin, dont let buying it at the grocery store make you think otherwise
>>599500087 and to think i almost bought some of that in powder form in like 2010. ive always held my drugs well and even on 10+mg of klonopin ive never "lost days" so to speak, for sure forget stuff like crazy but nothing bad. a girl i went to college with was given 4 2mg klonopin pills, and told they were like xanax. she was like 90lb's and ended up getting like gang raped and shit by the dealer and his friends. she lost like 3 whole days, ended up in the ER cause she was to fucked up to tell people what she took. she dropped out over this and all, really ruined her life.
>>599501012 you dont need them, but they speed up the latex being rubbed off the outside of the seeds. means more morphine/codeine and less shaking. lemons are like 4 for $1, and im so used to the lemon flavor i dont think i could drink it without
>>599502252 I agree. It's an extra step and you'd end up with a sludge. Seeds rinse out easily, and you can wash them all down a disposal if you don't want to have pounds of them in your trash. Warm water, a shaking bottle, a cup to squeeze the water into, and seeds are all you need.
>>599502198 if anyone with legal knowledge could chime in, ive always wondered.
like what happens if i get pulled over with 10lbs of poppy seeds? what if i have a used milk jug in the car full of old poppy seeds? would it just be possession of controlled substance, or could they throw something like conspiracy to manufacture heroin?
also, other great unanswered questions: why does this shit give me such bad dry mouth? is it bad for my liver?
yeah seizures are the worst, i got so bad with etizolam that at one point i had to re dose every three hours, which meant waking up in the middle of the night, going into w/ds in my sleep, taking some more and then going back to bed. had a couple of seizures. sucks.
i haven't heard of that vendor, mine was researchchemist, luckily they reimbursed me.
i only took phenaz a couple of times, it was so easy to fuck up on. i blacked out for a day, woke up and i'd smashed every mug in my cupboard trying to make tea. also the only time i've ever pissed myself as an adult. fucking russians.
dude thats fucked up, i didn't know people could black out that long on kpins alone? where they redosing her over those three days? anyway, kill that dealer
>>599503069 If they know what you're doing, yeah, they could charge you with manufacturing, but the charge wouldn't stick if you didn't have the chemicals needed for heroin or morphine production in your possession.
>>599503142 i used to wake up every morning in opiate+SSRI withdrawal from taking 600-800mg of tramadol a day. it was hell, my sheets would literally be soaked through.
and yeah that whole situation was fucked up. im not sure if they redosed her, and i think she pressed charges, not sure i transferred schools as well (not for any horrible reason like that tho lol) but 8mg of klonopin is a lot for a naive girl. also she was a huge slut so who knows, she probably just didnt remember consenting
>>599503412 maybe for dry poppy seeds, i wouldnt really expect trouble. but im worried about old containers or driving with the liquid as it could be seen [by retarded law enforcement] as a precursor to heroin. thats what im worried about, conspiracy to manufacture heroin could carry a sentence up to five years in my state
i kno that feel. that is a lot of tramadol, the seizure threshold is pretty low on those iirc. i never really got into it heavily, i prefer the more typical opiate highs, plus i could never get a nod on trams.
yeah i suppose it is, but 3 days? hell i know people who've been spiked with roofies and came to sooner
>>599503960 I used to take 300 mg a day of tramadol for chronic pain. I didn't have much trouble just stopping. I guess some people have more trouble than others. I'd advise you to stay away from tramadol. It can give you a seizure at high doses. It did to me.
>>599489882 I used to make similar thread with full photos and all but no replies ever had u lucky op this time.btw when u try heroin and u compare it to seeds u will always pick seeds trust me on this one.these seeds are magical there is no other 2day high from any drug like that
>>599504684 you off now? it was hell for me. the opiate part was fine, like 3-5 days, but the PAWs and SSRI effects lasted months. about 3 until i felt like myself again. i was on the train for only 2 years
>>599504684 I'm curious. How on earth did you get that addicted? I'm the guy who took it for chronic pain. I got taken off by my shrink who made me choose between klonopin and tramadol. She thought I'd get serotonin syndrome with the SSRI's. Stupid, I know.
>>599506274 i have two herniated disc in my bad that cause awful pain. i started PM at 18 years old. after my first month script (2x 50mg a day) i tried to get off and switch to morphine, but my doc insisted i stay on trams, so he scripted me 300mg a day with 6 refills (supposed to be for 6 months) but they were like schedule 4 or maybe unscheduled so i could fill them whenever i ran out, and my doctor was cool (stupid) enough to keep writing me these six month scripts and i was seeing him like every two months lol. he didnt even think they were addictive and didnt believe. i had to taper down myself, then i started using PST a few times a week to control pain.
>>599506274 Always bought them online. I actually quit multiple times, but never for very long, and went back. It was just too good vs. how life felt without. Alcohol is a dumb, sloppy, smelly drug by comparison. The people I got it from are still after me, trying to get me to buy more. I don't want to add up how much money I gave them over all those years.
>>599507880 loli could take a wild guess and tell you your meth thread didnt take off due to the stigma of the drug. even tho you are older you have to understand the adv user of 4chan is like 16-17 years old, so they have no connections for meth or heroin or what have you, but poppy seeds can be bought just down the street. im surpised it hasnt really exploded
and hey im not talking down meth or you for using it. uppers arnt my thing but to each his own.
>>599508339 yeah man fuck the DEA, and that Frankenstein substance tramadol. he didnt want to give me schedule 2 drugs because " i was too young for addiction" so heres an unlimited supply of tramadol. makes sense
>>599508339 Damn, you're so right. So many people right now have had their meds cut so much that they had to seek out meds to buy on the street. Since those got too expensive, they're turning to heroin & other substitutes. I'm talking about people with legitimate injuries, too.
op, i once extracted a crude solution from my PST, literally cooked it down in a pasta-dish. wasn't smokeable but was pretty good orally. there are a few guides online, but imo it wasn't worth the hassle.
>>599507541 i always wondered if GHB / GBL withdrawal could also possibly kill you (since it also affects the gaba system). well, all i know is that cold turkey from that shit was hell, got put in ER because of crazy blood pressure and shit but still don't know if it could really get life threatening at some point...
>By Chris on August 16, 2014 >Size Name: 5 LBs Verified Purchase >If you're looking for unwashed seeds then you probably use them for the same thing as me. Let me say this, BUY THESE OR BOBS RED! Half the bag is see through and you can tons of little plant matter in the bag which for my use is absolutely orgasmic.
>I of course can't stand dirt, so I tend to throw them in a water bottle and shake them vigorously to wash them, and of course I discard the liquid as it's useless and I couldn't think of a thing to do with it *lol*
>They are just as good if not better than Bobs Red Mill's which I also bought with these. You're stupid if you don't buy one of the 2 and are wasting your money. I honestly suggest these over Bob's due to the high amount of stem and plant matter in the bag with them. Bob's or this guys ^_^
>>599510840 >pretty hard to die from This is wildly irresponsible to tell someone. Lots of kids die from tea, you can't measure out a dose. Each seed as more or less morphine on it, you won't get the exact same strength twice. Though most deaths are from massive amounts of seeds, it still happens.
>>599511709 by lots of kids you mean that ONE kid whos parents started a website about the dangers of PST. yes i agree you dont know dosing at all and seeds can vary GREATLY, but even with the best seeds you would need to be doing like 5lb+ and even then, if you didnt add anything to the mix, you will probably wake up. that kid died cause he was mixing oxy and benzos with pst. his toxicology report was a drug shopping list.
>>599513454 oh, you seem like a cool guy. i wanted to know more about frubrozolam and clonazolam, like drinking on them, any weird shit, how long effects last? i ordered them cause they are all so new on the market and most seemed promising. am i going to be let down?
you too. flubrzo is very similiar to a triazolam; hard -hitting & short-lasting. clonazolam is very much like its Rx couterpart, seems to have a slightly short half-life, though.
as for drinking on them, unless your pretty well-versed in benzos i would avoid, these are quite strong in comparison to previous RC market benzos.
they definitely both have a certain amnesiac quality to them, akin to phenazepam but in now way as strong or dangerous. still, there is room to fuck up on these. go easy on them bro, especially if your on PST aswell
>>599515718 i am VERY versed in drinking on benzos. i know it sounds bad, but i literally wont drink w/o them.
i will be safe, nothing weird like the eye twitch from etizolam tho? im super excited about the clonazolam now tho, i love klonopin. thats what i was hoping for.
did you ever try AL-LAD or the new 1p-LSD. im reading that its actually a prodrug to LSD, which is what people were thinking but no one knew it it would actually work that way. was considering placing an order before it gets banned, but have only seen hype no good trip report except very early ones.
>>599516435 its like poppyseedtea.com or something. yes it is dangerous, like any psychoactive substance, as i said before it would be PRETTY hard to kill yourself on it tho, even if you were trying to.
>>599480908 Here's how you get poppy tea >Buy 5 lbs of poppy seeds from whole foods >buy 5 containers of lemon juice >pour 2.5 lbs of poppy seeds into 2 litre bottle >add 2 container lemon juice per 2 litre >fill with water until 3 cm above the poppy seeds >shake the shit out of it for 30 minutes >strain it >drink it
>>599514573 >head singers wut? I'm a singer and I don't quite get what you mean by this. The 'nasal sound' is an open velum I'm pretty sure (means he's letting some air into nasal cavity, not really a bad thing depending how you want to sound)
>>599517034 first man to mention using lemons besides myself. 30minutes of shaking is excessive, but im sure you have crazy forearms from fappin so much. 5-10 will do the job just as well. you dont want the seeds in a lot of water for very long.
>>599516588 I used to drink very irresponsibly while taking benzos for anxiety. There's cross tolerance between them, as you probably know, so using one increases your tolerance for the other, and vice versa. I've been in jail numerous times for it and finally had to just quit the booze. I'm not in AA or anything and occasionally do drink, but I'm too old for that shit, really. I drink maybe once every few months, usually when I'm pissed off, then remain hungover the whole next day.
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