>>598355363 seconds before i reply and these faggots already start spouting python... don't trust them. they are morons. python is mega shit for games, it's boring as fuck, it will make you hate coding.
>>598356165 If you don't know the basics I suggest you to literally start with C and buy the K&R book since it's probably what any newbie would do. C is a popular language and it is "close" to the machine code but it's not the machine code, after you learn C, almost any language will be recognizable but with different syntax.
>>598356730 pretty much this. if your upbringing was shit or your parents were just dumb (so again... probably shit upbringing) you don't stand a chance of becoming a decent coder and earning 130k+ like the best of us
I prefer to start with Python... C is kindly difficult because it is too stict, but I started with C lol... anyway, Python is better to start in my opinion, easy to understand, and you don't need to end with ";"
>>598358032 yes... but start with C it's a bad idea in my opinion, if he rlly wanna be a programmer, the most important think is to learn the about algoritm that code, so... python or any other Hight level is better to start to know how to do algoritm
>>598354422 >software development or videogames Start with C on your target OS and continue with C++. C is simple and can lead you to even more komplex systems than newer, API capped enviornments. Dont listen to all those hipster technology users. Except of Java & C#.
Lisp itself is not as widely used as other languages, but the main dialects have functionality above and beyond mainstream languages. At the very least, even if you don't ever use Lisp again, the act of learning it will make you a better programmer, and a member of lisper master race.
>>598362223 you are such a fucking faggot just stop giving a fuck already and go tell people about how cool and custom your desktop is and how your too leet for ubuntu and something something stop spreading FUD like oh my god my kernel can't take this... stick a toothbrush up your linux cock and think about whether the next kernel should be called 3.20 and 4.0
>>598361291 If he starts Java, he'll get the wrong feeling of coding. Let him do a BuubleSort Example in C, then start Java. Never start Java without knowing any native language, please people. This will give people the wrong perception of coding.
>>598362724 >you are such a fucking faggot My grillfriend begs do differ inb4 pics >just stop giving a fuck already Please do vacate the premises >go tell people about how cool and custom your desktop It's pretty boring and functional. I don't use much flashy shit. >and how your too leet for ubuntu It's not about being leet, Ubuntu just sucks more cock than you >something something stop spreading FUD like oh my god my kernel can't take this... stick a toothbrush up your linux cock dafuq >think about whether the next kernel should be called 3.20 and 4.0 That's up to Torvalds to decide, I couldn't give less fucks
>>598355593 This is the most useful advice in this thread right now, I too thought people would start spouting Python. Listen to this guy because he's right, it is stupid for games and WILL make you hate coding.
typical linux fag getting his panties up in a bunch that he actually feels the need to individually quote reply to a bunch of fucking shit. you are so fucking worthless just fucking kill yourself. you're a stain on the planet and the best you can hope for is to become a linux sys admin who makes bad hackles jokes while crying alone in bed after wondering why your mummy touched you down there
What's with the python hate? Hell, there is even pyGame to provide tools for making games. I haven't used it because I don't make games but it looks pretty good for someone wanting to make some simple games with no prior experience.
Don't listen OP. They probably approached python as a programming language when it is a scripting language. It is definitely not what the industry uses, but if you want to start making games fast I see nothing better. Also, you can do all sorts of other shit with it, scripting I think is a very underrated skill. Don't start writing in compiled languages if you can't even bash correctly...
>>598364929 SDL is targeted towards games and such, providing plenty of functionality for graphics and such wxWidgets is targeted towards applications They don't serve the same purposes nor fill the same niches; depends on what you want to program
>>598354422 You doing ok bro? We are here for you. Want some hugs? Some cuddles? Maybe a big glomp? This thread is pretty triggering, but ill suffer to be here for you, even though its prolly harder on me than you.
Im self taught, from when I was 14½ years old, i started with AutoIT then later moved onto C++ and totally skipped C# which i really regret, cause a lot of understanding about classes and objects got thrown away, so my answer would be to start with something that has same syntax as C# or C++ then when you understand the syntax move to C# and C++
>To be a decent programmer, it's much more important to learn about Data Structures / Algorithms rather than choice of language
I agree. This is why python is best at the start. You really learn types and the difference between an interpreted language and compiled, and even get some object orientation. You learn how a computer works, but you still have plenty of high level tools to do useful shit.
If you want to be a good programmer, build on what's out there already. Don't reinvent the wheel. All you have to do is learn to use other people's code efficiently and that is what python makes easy.
>>598368077 It could do anything from stationkeeping to telemetry to data analysis. There's no one standard toolbag for that. Having a REPL to diagnose and alter the image while it's running even in production is sweet.
>>598368337 http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/ C++ (what it says in the tin), but it'll work
OP, you should install Ubuntu. It's really neat anf fun, wow! It will make you feel like a super hacker! Then you can move on to other distros (those in the know with experience call it "distro hopping"). Distro hopping will make you sound important on forums and give you more Linux experience than most people. You should hop fro Ubuntu, to Kubuntu>Xubuntu>Debian>Fedora<openSUSE>Arch>Gentoo. This will give you a lot of Linux experience and teach you a lot about those respective distros. It's useless in terms of valuable skills and even the knowledge you gain will be more specific to those distros and a few specified packages, but! You will be able to go on Linux Forums and IRC, and say things like "heh, reminds me of when I used to use Gentoo" and sound smug and cool and witty all at the same time. And people who can't get anything done on their computers because all they know how to do is use deprecated systems that out of religious reasons they hope will replace Windows and OS X on the desktop and lead the world to freedom will look up to you and ask you for help and vote for you to be a forum moderator on Ubuntu Forums. You can help them installed necessary libs and packages that require useless amounts of knowledge to be known about. Do it OP, forget about programming and instead use Linux with the aspiration of becoming a forum moderator! Maybe even learn some basic $bash commands, syntax, and jargon - because memorizing definitions is a lot easier than learning to program, and it will make you look smarter too.
>>598369748 >typical answer of googling "how to make games like cod???" c++ is not a good starting language for making games, you are a moron. suicide booths haven't been invented yet but you should be able to overdose on rohypnol if you put that drug addled brain of yours to work. good luck, faggot.
>>598370519 maybe he wants to be more than a loser who makes flash games for himself. You can make useless shit with any language, but if you want to take a share in the market, you better start with the real shit.
just fuck off you dumb shit. can't even take you seriously. i'll give you credit for learning how to communicate with your betters despite your mental deficits, but you need to go back to your down syndrome playgroup. okay?
>>598372034 typical tard, just fuck off. what arguments needed? look at how retarded your last post was and come back in 3 years when you realize what a fucking retard you are. if he wants to make more than flash games maybe he shouldn't follow the advice of c++ arstechnica cod gaming retards who are pretending to know what they're talking about. were you dropped as a child or were you born like this?please put a needle in your penis tip and refrain from reproducing you dumb fucking tard
>>598372793 >never heard of this site >don't play code it's just sad to see your need to claim that you are smart. You think that your childish word combinations are cool, but you are less than a donkey to me. It's a thread about codeing and all you can do is be retarded. That's what happens when you don't get pussy in valentines day
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