>>596123439 Cont. Unless she's obviously wanting to have this conversation right here right now over Skype, then don't push it and let it drop. Bring it up later in a non chalante way, preferably in a situation with alcohol involved.
>>596123870 I love a girl, she doesn't love me. I am the alternate outcome to this fucked up advice of "just tell her brah" Don't wind up like me Op, I lost my best friend and every day of my life is misery.
dont admit your feelings over text, and dont admit your feelings before she actually does instead of 'maybe' saying it. you know shes open to the possibility of you being more friends you just have to take the leap and initiate more physical contact when youre together. change her perception of you to being more than just a friend.
dont listen to the people saying "just tell her you love her". a cat plays with a string when you dangle it just out of reach, give it the string and it loses interest.
>>596124391 >Fucking smooches and shit let's do this!"
Yeah don't listen to this virgin.
>>596124367 This guy has it right, the only benefit to dating is you get pussy, which you can get on the side while she's still your friend. If it goes bad you'll hate yourself until the day you die, I promise you
>>596125533 The fact you replied means you lack the intelligence and self control to realise that what I said in no way changes your life and you shouldn't have replied, it was only intended to help OP. Instead you just throw out pointless insults and braggadocio on an image board revealing your true worth as just another clueless human being. Now don't take this personally, I just want everyone to succeed and be happy. So please really consider what I have said and become a better person. If you feel the need to reply to this you're hopeless
Finding myself in a similar situation right now. Long story short both of us went through breakups and all recently. I love her more than anyone but not entirely romantically. Pretty soon were going to a concert together and chances are were gonna drink and I'll see how that pans out.
Just remember, if you fuck up and she's not into you she's still your best friend and as long as you can move on from that I see no reason she wouldn't still wanna chill with you
OP, I think you really need to bite the bullet. My first ever girlfriend came out of a very similar situation via text message...we were dancing around the subject and I just straight up told her that I was in love with her, and she responded in the same fashion. You either: a) sit in this awkard, lame limbo situation you're in now, b) get rejected (though that looks unlikely now) c) get mutual response and have the best day of your life.
This is exactly the sort of chat that led to me sitting here three years later, engaged to my best friend.
She is into it. She is trying to figure out how into it you are. Just say what comes natural to you without trying to make it go in a given direction. If you guys really are that close, it will happen and you can explore it without getting pushy or feeling weird.
It may take a while, not gonna lie, but it's worth it.
>>596128454 >>596128312 both these things. wtf man, and post tits or gtfo. OHMYFUCK im becoming retarded just thinkning about how fucking dumb you are acting by not knowing how to deal with this situation.
keep it simple dipshit. and stop being such a fucking pussy, you arent supposed to get on your fucking knees and BEG for her to approve what you say. write to her how you feel, and maybe, just fucking maybe she might think you arent a beta.
what id do?
"i do like you" or the pussy version "i value our friendship, but i do like you more than just that"
Listen to me, I don't know what else you've been told. I don't know/care if this is a troll because someone will undoubtedly ask this same thing seriously.
Tell her! Seriously just sit and think about what you as a person respond to. Do you want to deal with wishy/washy people? The indecisive numbnuts that don't ever nut up and say how they feel? No, you don't like those people. Sure you might tolerate or even sympathize with them, but you don't prefer them.
So, what you need to do is say, "Are you home? I'm coming over." Wait for any indication that she is infact home. Go to her room and kiss her on her face. It is what she is waiting for. If she has levels of interest enough to say what she said already then you're basically in.
You're wanting to creep your way to a victory and it doesn't work like that. You're either all in, or fold. Give up on her or go for it. You'll not be happy until you decide to do what you think you should. If she responds in the affirmative, then congratulations. If she doesn't, that doesn't mean it will be the end of the world. Sometimes they have to sort through it. If she pulls away or says, "No!" Shrug your shoulders and leave. Don't stay and talk. That will put her in a position to decide if you're what she wants or not. No one can fault you for trying and failing. Not trying is truly cowardly though.
>>596128099 You will know the specifics of your friendship better than I ever will, so it's hard for me to say. Chances are unless you're a total autist about it right now, it will keep coming up until you two do something about it. Don't ignore it and don't push too hard is all I can really advise.
My best friend and I were talking constantly throughout the day, dated other people but would playfully send nudes to each other, not in an attempt to start dating but we were just close and knew we could trust each other with anything. Actually. We were the only people either of us trusted with everything. So it depends on where you are, man. I do hope it goes well.
if you dont do something right now, today, you will forever regret it, and you will become fucking depressed. if there is any inch of manhood in you, for the love of christ you better respond with some shit to make her your girlfriend. TODAY.
Tell her how you feel man, you will regret it otherwise. I fell for this girl once but was too beta and couldn't find the courage to ask her out and she eventually started seeing someone else and I met up with her recently and she's still seeing him. Trust me when I say that you will regret it if you don't tell her
>>596129180 The act of risking her will, in a way, be sexy to her. That devil may care attitude is like catnip to women. They want a guy who will set the world on fire just to keep them safe. That's truly it. It comes down to position. Everyone, at everything, wants position. They want to feel like you're giving them a small amount of leverage against the world. So, show her that you're able to be that person. Leave your conscious mind out of the equation. If you think it, say it. If you're afraid you'll hurt her, or upset her. Then even better. Girls have been programmed since childhood to think that mean guys are sexy and that attracts the majority of them.
Walk up to her, place your hand on the small of her back, pull her to you firmly but gently. Give her a close mouthed kiss on the lips. Relax the muscles in your lips and don't try to eat her head, but push your face to hers with both passion and restraint. Don't think about what you're doing after that. Just respond to the movements you and her are making together. If it is in a place that can proceed further, it will at that point. If you're wanting to be the "good guy" and not "take advantage". Don't be vocal about it. If she pushes back and stops you. Then allow her to but do it reluctantly. If she doesn't stop you or starts taking things off you, then let it happen. Once the sex happens, it will put you in a position to mean more to her. I am not one of these dumbass kids. I am telling you, this is exactly your move.
Don't fuck around with it. Commit. Be confident. Respect her like a savage would. Meaning, you don't want her dead, but holding yourself back isn't winning you any awards.
If the moves fail because of disinterest just fold. Give it a couple months and find a way to run back into her. Act like nothing ever happened and you can work your way back into the friendzone if you so desire.
>>596127796 she'd have to be a raging bitch to flat out dump you as a friend just because she knows you're true feelings for her. I would tell her, honestly yo'd be better off without a friend like that.
>>596130984 There is only ever today, Anon. If you won't do it today, you won't do it tomorrow. I don't care if one of your parents died today. There are only ever mental excuses, that are deadset on holding you back. Not real obstacles that can't be avoided or overcome.
Fucking man up. Tell this girl the true true and get the fuck in there man. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Risk is required to obtain rewards. Don't eat the yellow snow!
>>596130915 I think something happened to OP. Anyway, because I'm a beta faggot, it's always worked for me to put myself into a situation where I'm forced to talk it out. Maybe ask to meet up with her for coffee or something, and then ask her about her feelings.
That's fine, I am not telling you to act any differently 99.9% of the time. Just, tonight, be a dude that takes charge and lays something on the line.
What the code in her message is, "Yeah, I think about you romantically, too. I just don't know if you're exactly what I want. I can't promise you that I will fall in love with you, but I do like you. Maybe we should see how it goes."
I would like to think that OP is talking this one out with her. If he has the relationship with her that he says, he has to know he can say anything to her without it being weird.
OP, if you're out there, and you can't talk to her about this, if you are not comfortable enough to tell her everything about how you feel, not only are you lying to yourself about the depth of the friendship, but you don't fucking deserve the opportunity.
Go talk to her. No ones advice will be as tailored to someone you talk to everyday, constantly, than your own words. Put. Them. Out. There.
I am 33 years old. I can promise you that I have had enough failed relationships to know what to do to start one. I can also tell you that regret is much, much worse than a lost friend. Humiliation is easier to get over than the "If I had only..." bullshit that clogs up your thoughts as you lay down to go to bed.
If this event does sever the friendship, it can be mended. You can't, however, never move into a relationship until you make this move.
OP. if the last three years with my best friend have proven anything to me, it's that absolutely NOTHING has been able to shake our mutual desire to spend every minute in each other's lives. And there have been some things that probably should have ended our friendship, if anything was ever going to. And it hasn't.
If you DONT have that with your best friend, take a chance. If it ends, you're NOT actually losing what you think you are.
"Ya know, the more I think about it, the more I really would like to see what we could turn this into. You know, something more than just a friendship. I think about you basically all the time and when I'm not thinking about you, I am thinking about thinking about you. You're pretty awesome. I think you and I could be really good together. You with the [something amazing you noticed about her, that most people don't appreciate]. I want to be the guy you do that with/to/for. I want you to be the girl that I get the privilege of listening to, everyday. So, nothing much would change. Except I won't have to hide how I feel, and you will get a lot more orgasms."
>>596132915 >>596133563 Basically this. Just ask her to do something more romantic in person, comeback tell us how it went. We can give you further advice if you need it. I've been through this a lot too, the rejection thing is not as bad as you think it is and she'll probably just gloss over it if she doesn't feel the same.
>>596135148 >>596134849 >>596134762 Yes...while I appreciate the advice I'm not gonna say something like this. I'm just going to tell her that I've liked her a lot for a while and see what she says. Something along those lines
What the saddest thing about this is, and I promise this isn't some defensive retort. I don't have a problem getting girlfriends. They usually eat up my bullshit, and then get tired and bored of me later, after I turn the charm down. So, that definitely wasn't something good I wrote. I accept that but girls do like to know they are being thought about. You may not want to sound like you're totally consumed by them, like I implied but yea.. I'll just shut the fuck up now...
To clarify I meant a metaphorical corner. Like don't say something intense like, "I want to love you forever and get married and have kids. I can't wait to see us grow old together!" Not a real corner.
>>596136476 Well...i've witnessed at least 3 of our mutual friends hit on her and be shot down, hard. I doubt we'll stop talking or anything if she does reject me, but I'm scared that things will get a bit...weird or won't be the same as before. Sad thing is, I do actually think about her 24/7.
Well, there very well may be a good reason for the friends being shot down. Because they aren't the right person asking.
I assure you sir. I am 33 years old. I got my High School sweetheart, (It didn't last but got her I did.) I have probably had 20+ "Relationships" in my life. It all comes down to simple human nature. Women are responsive to confidence, comfort, and compassion. They want you to be interesting to them. The sexuality comes from being fierce and confident. The romance comes from kindness. So, to win her over here, you want confidence. You want her to say yes. So, find a way to be honest, without letting her say no.
I can promise you this though, if you do "fail" at this, you can get back on the horse as a friend later. Like I said earlier. Just give a bit of time. She may even change her mind in the time period. Just act like it didn't happen and she'll want to be your friend again. If you even need that. It may just be a simple, "I'm sorry Anon, I don't think of you in that way." Which we know won't happen. Since she already said she wanted you.
>>596133563 OP now is the perfect time. Say something like "can i be honest for a sec" or some shit then say "I like you more than a friend" there is still hope. Everyone here knows and agrees that she has feelings for you. Man up or blow your chance
If she doesn't respond soon call her and say, "What was I thinking? Of course I like you. I was hesitant only because I didn't want to risk a friend. Now, I realize I will take that risk, but only for a much greater reward."
You need to overcome that fear, man. It will sabotage countless opportunities in your life. Just talk to her like another human being. If it doesnt work, then you must learn to move on. Dont attach feelings and priorities to others that havent been yet earned.
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Yeah, cause girls hate to feel like you want them and appreciate them. Trust me, it's only creepy if they don't like you. Just look at any YA novel turned movie. The dude is always a fucking psychopath but makes the girl feel funny in her pants, so it's forgiven. Hell even Spider Man stalked Gwen in the last movie. She creamed over it.
Ok op listen closely. Follow her around waiting for her to pass out on a bench. Don't worry, you will be there to save her. Next bundle her up and take her home. Put her in your bed and sleep on the couch, you don't want her thinking something happened. When she wakes up make sure not to pressure her about what happened, but she has to eat the eggs.
See, I understand what you're saying. That it's a movie and that it isn't represenative of real life. Okay, then why is it that any girl you ask who likes Twilight will tell you that the first book is their favorite, and in it. Edward does ZERO sane things. He watches her like she's food, he sneaks into her bedroom, he acts like a complete asshole, he is hot and cold to her personality wise, and at different points openly admits he wants to kill her more than anyhing ever. YET, the girls who love that film would give their first born to be Bella. You see my point. The film is a reflection of the consumer's desire. It may feel like a fictional truth, but it is not. Girls will forgive you almost any socially frowned upon behavior, as long as they find you attractive and some of those behaviors will be pants wettingly sexy to them.
I'm sorry to tell you this, but it is exactly true what I said. Girls, just like guys, don't give a backer's fuck about what is being done. As long as they get to copulate with that person is hot. It is a truth of life, you should accept sooner, rather than later. I was using the movie as an example, an analogy, a representation of reality. If you're not smart. I'll stop explaining as it won't do any good one way or the other.
>>596149774 Hopefully OP and his best friend are busy admitting how they feel without OP being autistic enough to say "that's great! I love you too. I always have. Hold on. Let me go tell 4chan about this."
>>596122967 Fucking tell her you beta faggot. Jesus christ you're such a cuck. "Oh no I'm insecure and afraid!" PATHETIC. BETA. Grow a dick and tell her you fucking idiot. If you don't do this now the cycle will never end and you'll keep being a regretful, miserable, niggercocksucking, beta faggot.
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