im trying to get into whiskey and scotch but im not sure where to start. ive had jack daniels and jim beam before but i wasnt really impressed. price isnt a big issue but i dont want to spend more than $100 for the first bottle
some friends suggested crown royal reserve and johnnie walker blue label
New distillery, Isle of Arran, makes a very approachable 10 year (and it's reasonably priced. I was getting it for < $40 a year and a half ago... seeing it mostly at $55 now).
Don't start with anything smokey (it will be listed as peated) unless you already like that... so as a rule of thumb, avoid things from any distillery on the Isle of Islay. Once you start to get into to it, try those. It's not that you can't like them immediately, it's just that it's like jumping into the deep end.
I've never had blue label, but it's a blended scotch. If you want the good stuff, stick to single malts. Each one is unique, and you get to the point where you're really excited coming home from the store with something you haven't tried before.
>>594740709 you can't start with something huge flavoured like Tallisker or something. You waste money and maybe don't even like it, because your taste hasn't adapted to the flavours. There are blogs and articles on the internet where you can find info about how to start.
A good whikey to start with is the Glennfiddich 12y old.
>>594741985 i did. I hated talisker when I first tried it and swore off scotch for good. But it kept being on sale at the liquor store so I gave it another chance, and eventually came to like it. Now I love the stuff - the smokier the better.
>>594741377 The burn might be a part of it, but mostly, it's the "texture" that the particular whisky creates on your tongue and in your mouth. Something that burns may still be smooth. It's more about flavours feeling easy to drink in your mouth.
For getting hammered on a budget I get R&R, getting hammered when I Have some extra scratch I use Jack. For having a nice drink and chilling I drink Crown Royal. All affordable, 2/3 actually taste good.
>>594741753 So you can't go wrong with any highland and Speyside one. Just don't spend too much on your first bottle. Meaning yes MacAllan is an excellent malt, but you won't be able to appreciate that yet. Go Balvenie 12yo then keep going from there. Slainte!!
>>594742367 if you think it tastes like soap your taste buds are fucked up. The only valid complaint some people have is that it is on the sweet side, and some people don't like sweetness. Those people are fags though. There may not be as much variation in bourbon as there is in scotch, but there is still variation and you can find one that isn't so sweet if you try
>>594740709 Scotch is mostly identified by the brewery and the location. Highland, Speyside, Islay and Lowland(Campletown too) Get one from each area. Highland is more fruity and Speyside is also kinda fruity but with a rather more dried fruit kinda fruity. Islay is often very smoky and so is Lowland.
You could try Bushmills 10 too, it's about 30 euros here. If you're into the more expensive shit, try Yellow Spot. It's sweet but still has deep flavors. And I have to agree, Jameson is one of the better low-budget options
>>594743217 I wouldn't consider R&R nor Jack "fine". Not even Crown is fine, just better than the previous two. Whisky is a drink I happen to like and it's what I turn to to have a good time when I'm in a drinking mood.
>>594742729 this all the way, there are cheaper variants as well if money is a ting. glen is hands down the one of the better single malts you can get in a supermarket, pic related, 12 yo, still paletable
>>594743779 Not necessarily, but most blends I've tasted fall short of single malt. Had a Monkey Shoulder the other day, wasn't horrible, but I'd rather have a Talisker. And Chivas Regal is rubbish even in its price range.
Personally I like glenfidich 15 and 18, but the best one they did was called cairn. it was peat smoked and tasted beautiful, was really smooth. Unfortunately it was a limited edition and not seen it since.
Isle of islay whiskeys are supposed to have a nice smokey phenolic edge to them though
I'm new to whiskey as well, I've collectively had less than a bottle of real whiskey. I've decided to go for Black Grouse the next time I get some, and I've got my eye set on Talisker 10 as soon as I get some extra cash.
I've only had bottles of shitty vodka, Jägermeister, Captain Morgan Black Spiced, JD (much too sweet for me) and John Medley's before. Will this in any way help in the sense of "shitty alcohol makes me appreciate finer ones"?
Peated whisky is boring and is just there to pack a punch.
So try this instead: - Glendronach 15 Year Revival - Four Roses Small Batch (Bourbon)
For a more interesting experience: Any Johnny Walker made before 1975, you'll recognize them as JW bottles without a barcode. Bought second hand at generally 25 - 50. Stuff is made of legends and can't be compared to what they make these days.
If you ever dare to venture outside whisky be sure to try:
>>594746326 This is 4chan at its best. "Lose 5 pounds and i will make you my girlfriend.Add 5 dollars to that beer and its worth my time.Shes a year too old/young for me." Just try stuff out and if your like it go on it and if not don't.
>>594740709 Not sure if OP is still around but let's assume he is.
A lot of people here have no idea what they are talking about. I'm no expert, but I started a journey like you're about to roughy 18 months ago so I have some idea as to how to get you started on the right path.
Start with Scotch. The world of whisk(e)y is enormously vast and confusing and this is the best place to get your bearings. I personally found that knowing a bit about whisky before I jumped into drinking whiskey (ie: American and Irish varieties) was really valuable.
When it comes to Scotch there are for the most part two broad categories. Single malt whisky and blended whisky. Although blended whisky makes up about 80% of the market, single mate is where its at.
The big whisky brands are blends. Think Johnnie Walker, Chivas, Teachers etc etc. What this means is that they are a mix of many different whiskies from different distilleries with grain whisky added to beef it out. Although there are some great blends most of them are for mixing with stuff like coke and soda water and not really made for sipping. The reason they blend whiskies together is to ensure consistency. Kind of like how McDonalds always tastes the same no matter where you are, so too do blends seek to achieve consistency from year to year.
Single malts are where the individual flavour characteristics of distilleries and regions come out to play. This is what makes them so interesting not just because the all vary so greatly in flavor and aroma but the same whisky from the same distillery will also vary from year to year.
>>594746480 I disagree. Start expensive, just buy minis. That way you'll get used to the taste of good whiskey instead of some liquid plunger. Also if you buy minis you can taste a lot of different whisk(e)ys without spending copious amounts of money on full sized bottles. When you've decided which ones you like you can buy those. Just taste a lot of different ones and you'll be fine
>>594744442 Haggis yes. Neeps and tatties, no. Hard to get real haggis in the USA. (I'm sure it didn't have the pluck, that's the "problem"). And because of that at burns things it's usually served as a tasting side instead of an entree.
A great place to start in the single malt world, as highlighted above, is Glenfiddich 12. It's cheap, of good quality and widely available. This will help you get your bearings especially as you buy other malts and compare them side by side with your Glenfiddich. Other good starting whiskies include Highland Park 12, Ardbeg 10 and when you're getting more confident try Laphroig 10 and introduce yourself to full on peat.
I definitely recommend doing a whisky course too. I'm not sure if you live in a city or nearby one but usually they're not too hard to find these days. In these courses you'll typically get a run down of the whisky regions of Scotland and try a dram from each. Trying different whiskies side by side is the best way to get to know whisky and will accelerate you learning experience.
Something I have recently started to do is keep notes on the whiskies I try. A small book which I record the whisky, is alcohol volume, price (interesting to look back on) and so tasting notes. This is really good to help you remember what you've learnt and if you try the whisky again later on, to identify things you might have first missed and can now identify.
I recognise I'm probably a bit more full on with this than most and am rambling a bit but as you go on you'll easily find your once passing interest in whisky becoming a great passion. Its amazing how something made of just 3 ingredients can be so complicated.
Well, you name a Tennessee Whiskey and a Bourbon as what you've had and you post a picture of Scotch. 3 very different things. Most of the replies here have focused on Scotch - take all that with a large grain of salt. IMO, if you're just "trying" to get into whiskey, then scotch is the wrong place to start - unless you live in Europe and that's what is readily available. If you live in the States, I'd recommend starting with bourbon or Irish whiskey and working your way around to other variations. If you're dead set on scotch, then I'd start with Highland style and branch out from there. If you start with something in the Islay style, you might get turned off for life - unless you like drinking smoke in a glass ( or iodine, or band-aid, or numerous other flavors that are associated with Islay scotch ).
Canadian Club is ( obviously ) Canadian whiskey and the general consensus is that it's a "smoother" mouthfeel and somewhat on the lighter side of the spectrum - which could be good for someone new to the spirit.
Jameson is an Irish whiskey and, IMO, Irish whiskies are sweeter than other styles so it also may be good for a beginner. Not residual sugar "sweet" but more dried fruit type of notes to it that gives the illusion of a sweeter style.
>>594741985 >you can't start with something huge flavoured like Tallisker or something. You waste money and maybe don't even like it, because your taste hasn't adapted to the flavours.
This guy gets it.
>>594742058 >If you are starting I recommend the Balvenie Doublewood or Laphroaig quarter cask.
This guy does not. Recommending someone start out on their whiskey train with Laphroaig is just fucking ignorant and he's trying to come off as sophisticated - which maybe he does have a taste for it, but it's not the way to start.
>>594742181 >tons of hipster-tier "lol its all shit drink this instead" types of fedora wearers itt >can't go wrong with bourbon whiskey. it doesn't have to cost $100 to be good
Truth. I think American bourbon is the best bet for someone starting out - it's got a smoother mouthfeel to it and is always made with at least 51% corn which lends itself to a more approachable spirit. My favorite is Hudson Baby Bourbon. 100% corn and is like pecan pie in a glass. Hands down my favorite whisk(e)y - but I'm a bourbon guy so maybe I'm a bit biased.
>>594741303 >Go to a tasting >Buy what you like >Repeat
At the end of the day, this might be the best advice on here. Don't let anyone else tell you what you should like to drink. Decide what sort of flavor you're looking for, do some research, and start trying different types and brands.
>>594748102 Glenlivet sucks, better off going for glenmorangie 10.
>>594740709 Benriach is really good if you're looking for a smoother scotch, laphroig cask strength if you're looking for smokey. Laphroig is so good that even my friends with unrefined palates who have tasted it loved it.
>>594741811 Great scotch, though I think the Bowmore and especially the Laphroaig might be too much if you just started drinking whisky. The Dalwhinnie is great, really smooth (and sweet, so might be great for the OP) and might make for a good start into scotch. I personally like the Highland Park at times as well, since it's great in it's simplicity in taste but still has peaty/smokey feel that I like in scotch.
My personal favourite might be the 10yo Laphroaig, though the 18yo is incredibly rich in taste as well (and twice as expensive).
>>594747134 >>594747703 im still here, thanks this was really helpful. im definitly thinking about trying something from the highlands or speyside area first potentially a glengloyne 10yr or a highlandpark 12 and maybe a japanese. i live in las vegas so most brands shouldnt be too hard to find unless they are super rare
>>594749161 Pictured. This is a Glencairn glass. It's specifically designed for whisky and is the standard for the industry.
If you can't get a Glencairn a small wine glass, or anything tulip shaped will do.
The reason a tumbler sucks for drinking whisky is because of the importance of aroma in the experience. Because the top of the tumbler is so wide, much of the whisky's smell escapes passed your nose. A Glencairn, or anything tulip shaped, allows the whisky to breathe and decant but also centralises the smells of the whisky so as to be more easily detected by your nose.
Start with anything from Macallan, I'm drinking Macallan Amber right now. All I can say is its fucking delicious, it would be a good starter scotch since its not totally in your face, its fairly soft on the palette.
If you don't want to spend 100 on your first bottle, Glenfiddich 12 is always a good budget scotch. I'd skip the Glenlivet, glenmorangie and anything from JW.
>>594750603 I'd agree up to a point. I think it would be a waste of money for OP to get a glass like this to use ( even though they aren't expensive ), until he gets into the groove and finds a style that he likes. Then the subtle nuances will be something that the Glencairn will be useful for.
>>594743217 sticking to a bottle of Jack D with some beer or whatelse on the side is preferable to becoming completely bloated by beer and feeling sick in way more ways than just hangovers. Thats why i stick to whisky for those parties
>>594750938 Buffalo Trace is a decent entry level bourbon ... but if you want to get something great from the Buffalo Trace distillery ... this is the best, hands down, in the world ... IMO. I like it better than the 23 year. For me, this is as good as it gets for whiskey.
>>594751657 Aye, Laphroaig is incredible, my favourite whisky. I personally stick with the 10yo rather than the 18yo since I kind of like that flavour explosion the 10yo has, though it can't be argued the 18yo is waaaay more rich in taste. Though they're both Laphroaig, I find it kind of hard to really compare the two, since they're so much different. I'm curious if you agree with it or not. Also, I can't really afford the 18yo, which might help with me picking the 10yo as my favourite.
I head excellent things about Monkey's Shoulder, too, and almost bought it on my last duty free trip. I'll get it next time. Like you, I don't have a slavish commitment to single malts. Blended can be quite nice too at times.
>>594740709 OP alcohol is nothing short of a religion. Take everything with a grain of salt. I bet there is a lot of people in this thread recommending scotch whiskey over american whiskey, then other people circle jerking over a select few.
Here is the advice from an Australian who has worked in a liquor shop for a long time and knows about beer, wines and whiskey. Get lots of different shit and try it all. Make your opinions. Order shots of stuff you haven't tried on the rocks at bars rather than buying a whole bottle of stuff you may not even enjoy.
If I had to recommend you a scotch whiskey I'd recommend you glenlivet 12yo and for american whiskey I'd recommend you buffalo trace.
Please enjoy your liver cancer respectfully and don't become an alcohol bigot like myself and the rest of these cunts.
>>594740709 Whiskeyfag reportin in! as loads have mentioned its allot depending on your preferences. starting with easy, smooth whiskeys you can try anything from Macallan (fine oak is very sweet) Oban 14 y/o (mild peat and quite strong alc taste) Glenlivet is always a neutral meh. Glenfiddich is about the same. If you want something drastique yet unique, I'd go for the lagavoulin 16 y/o. (Michael jacksons fav) its the essence of Islay! has a nice peaty flavour, full body and is deffinatly the best scotch for its pricetag.
>>594754896 aye, the regular 10 y/0 if i recall correctly. which reminds me! Talisker Storm is a nice starter, especially if you're used to the american stuff.. its a Flavoured whiskey, but still has the characteristiscs of Skye maintained. >>594754846 Scotch comes in shapes n sizes. if you think scotch are rough, I woouldd recoment Achentoshan three wood. verry sweet. almaust like cognac. another one would be the Laddie 22, kinda expensive tho about 300 USD in Norway
Not even worth mentioning this shit. It's too difficult to get a bottle to be on anyone's list. I can only find it at bars. Also the 23 year is not good. It's very woody and unpleasant. The 15 is the perfect age for Pappy.
Ok every single whiskey you listed is not worth 100 bucks. JW blue costs 200 but why wouldnt you just get a vastly superior 80$ single malt?
Bourbon is american, originally from kentucky. Majority corn. Sweeter flavors. JD, makers mark, weller, etc. Bourbon is also really popular right now. Get a "single barrel" version of something if you want to not overpay at 100$ price point.
"Canadian" whiskey is just smoothley blended whiskey without a lot of distinction to it. Crown Royal, canadian club, etc. Easy drinking, simple alcohol.
Rye is american whiskey made mostly from rye instead of corn. Its spicier and less sweet. Whistlepig is an excellent rye around 80$
Scotch and Irish are made from barley. They are often exposed to peat smoke. Scotch and irish tend to either taste like a campfire smoke, or more floral and aromatic. made in scotland, duh, and is mostly barley. Shitty, 10$ scotch beats a 25$ canadian whiskey. Scotch and irish can be blended or single malted. JW blue is a very good blend thats still way overpriced. Look for a speyside single malt around 30-40$ and you probably wont regret it.
>>594741278 >jameson >surprisingly good for a cheap good scotch
don't listen to this fuck, especially the part where he says johnny walker is crap.
for a beginner i'd try johnny walker black label, super tasty and won't break the bank as far as scotches go. from there, there aren't many great blends (all johnny walkers are blends, generally scotch snobs would say a single malt is the way to go) dewars is an okay blend, but yeah the single malts are gonna be the top shelf stuff.
dude jameson is trash , johhie walker black is the way to go yeah its blended but if youre new to the scotch game youll love it, matter of fact it might be best to ease your way into the single malts. JWB - thread closed
Im in the same pickle as op, was introduced to whiskey like a couple months ago, jd and then laguavulin 12y (i think thats how its spelled) Loved it. any recomendations for whiskey like it? low burn lots of smoke
>>594741377 Sort of. It's a combination of flavor, texture, and burning. Some go down smooth and have a burn. Some are smooth all the way. Some sugar leaches out of the wood it's aged in and that helps add to the smoothness.
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