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How smart is /b/?

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How smart is /b/?
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>>593463941
with that set up, the water will rise.
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Obviously it would rise because the ice turns into water.
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if the ice was fully submerged the whole time the level would stay the same. but in your example its clear it would rise the level of water.
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C goes down. Ice takes up more space. Once melted then water level will drop.
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morons, it will explode
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it will stay the same

i did a science project on this in like 2nd grade
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Remains the same. A well known fact
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>>593463941
Water level stays the same via Archimedes' principle.
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Ice cubes displace water (Making it rise)
Also: ice cubes take up more volume than liquid water.
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>>593464494
>via
your post came via your autism
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>>593464390
this, water expands when it is frozen
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>>593463941
water expands when frozen, im guesing same or even lower
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if the cubes were completely underwater the whole time the level would stay the same once they melted. But because the top of the ice cubes are sticking out above the surface the water level will rise slightly.
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>>593464544
So you're telling me that one electron of frozen water is smaller than one electron of liquid water?
GTFO
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>>593463941
water get turned into ice cubes
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>>593463941
Stays the same, because the Ice cubes take up the same amount of space, no matter what state they are in
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none. water level will decrease.
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>>593464661
You went full retard, m8.
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>>593464444
>>593464458
>>593464494
>>593464778
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>>593464494
This.

Nice try OP. What next, Sun mad of ice colliding with a regular sun?
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it decreases, because there are air bubbles in the icecubes which release to the air.
science ngr
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It will stay the same
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>>593464771
wrong as ice is less dense than water
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Stays the same. Once it melts, it's density increases from it's frozen form.

The volume of ice above the surface is equivalent to the increase in volume due to ice's unique density v temperature curve.
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>>593464774
>one electron of frozen water
>one electron of liquid water
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>>593464778
this
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>>593464778
Then why do liquids break their containers when frozen?
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Physics major here
The size of the electrons is different based on the temperature of a water atom.
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>>593463941
Holy shit every one in this thread is dumb. notice how the ice floats ontop of the water level meaning when it melts the water level will rise as new water is added from the melting. is eveyone in her under 12 holy shit
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>>593464661

If 3 letter words are 'too long' for you, then maybe you should have spent more time in school
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>>593464774

OOYVEY THE GOYIM KNOW
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Clearly because the electrons
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>>593465058
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>>593465106
Are you implying that the ice above the water doesn't cause the water level to rise?
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>>593464661
i kekd hard
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>>593463941
trick question, water level lowers
ice floats because the water molecules are more spread out (less density)

derp derp 2/10 for making me reply
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>>593465111
>too long
You're still sperging out. Only fedoras say "via." Communicate like a normal human being and you MIGHT get a girlfriend.
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Impossible to answer given the amount of information given

Is there any condensation occurring?
Are there any air pockets in the ice?
Whats the temperature? Is it hot enough to sublimate?
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>>593463941
Nuclear meltdown will occur, fgt
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>>593465081
It's because of the way they crystallize in a standard air cooling process.
In a perfect cooling process, where there is no space between crystallization, the ice is the same size.
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>>593465106
Why do you think ice floats in water then retard? It's less dense.
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water level increases. global warming is melting the ice caps and that increase the water level. this is the same thing but on a smaller scale.
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stays the same because displacement of niggardly water molecules
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>>593463941
No change in water level.
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>>593465535
You seriously can't be this retarded.
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>>593464953
It decreases because water's volume increases when it solidifies. If you fill a plastic bottle with water to the top and close it, it'll still warp when you freeze it, it's not air.

Just because you where right in the wrong way
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>>593464661
laughed my ass off
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http://smithplanet.com/stuff/iceandwater.htm
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Water level decreases. ice takes up more space than water
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>>593465106
the water volume has already been displaced by the ice. the ice is less dense therefore it floats. the overall volume does not change.
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ELECTRONS ARE BIGGER IN ICE THAN THEY ARE IN WATER
THINK ABOUT IT
BIGGER ELECTRONS = MORE SIZEING
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>>593465633
No it's not faggot. The ice that's melting and causing sea level rise is primarily on the land, not floating in the ocean. Do you think Antarctica is one big iceberg?
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>>593463941
If the ice were completely submerged then it would actually get lower. if some is above then the level will rise.
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>>593465965
Exactly. /b/ is apparently full of retards.
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>>593464381
wrong, ice has a higher volume per liquid unit. submerging the ice would actually make the overall volume decrease as the ice melted.
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>>593464718
But the icecubes aren't completely submerged into the water. Sure, water expands when it reaches a solid state, but it doesn't double it size. It expands roughly 9-10%, so unless the ice cubes were submerged 91-92% in the picture, the water levels would rise slightly.
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>>593463941
DON'T DO it, it creates mustard gas.
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ITT: Retards.
When water freezes it's in an expanded form, if it were to melt the water level will go down.
>inb4 HURR
Accounting for water displacement, water has more mass when it is frozen than it does when it is a liquid. A majority of the mass is lost when the ice cubes melt and the water level will be lower.
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>>593463941
Some of the ice will float above the water level, but you dont know the volume of it and ice is less dense then liquid water which would make the water level lower. Simply there is no way of knowing the answer to this question.
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>>593465592
yes they are. in-less if the ice was fully submerged then it would displace itself but thats not the case.
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>>593465106
The displacement of the weight of the buoyant cubes keeps the parity constant. Stays the same. the tops of the icecubes arnt resting on thin air Dipshit !
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>>593463941
it would stay the same, because the iceblocks will rise the water. so once they melt, the pressure drops but the water will add.
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>>593465811

how does it feel to be unappreciated

jew faggot
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>>593465058
Fuck you I almost finished highschool chemistry so I know I'm right
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>>593465633

Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>593463941
Neither, when it melts, the volume will go down.
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>>593467433
Don't be mad you're wrong.
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>>593463941
Fucking simple. The ice melts, more water is added. Looks like it stays the same because of the displacement . lrn2science
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>>593465535
>Only fedoras say "via."

And researchers, technicians, electricitians, medical workers, neurologists, et ceteta
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>>593467349

"almost" is the right word indeed.
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>>593466609
mass = weight you fuckin dipship.
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Ice cubes displace equal to the volume of water they will melt into if they're floating. If any ice cube is totally submerged under the weight of other cubes or up against the glass, however, it's a different story.
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>>593463941
While it is true that ice takes up more volume, it's also true the ice floats atop on the water.

However, I dont care enough to know if it will be higher, lower or the same level of the water.
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>>593464774

>electron of frozen water
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>>593468227
>tips fedora via dorito stained fingertiips
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>>593468227
>ceteta

nigger confirmed
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>>593464774

>one electron of frozen water
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>>593463941
Dont do this, it produces mustard gas :^)
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>>593463941
It would stay the same or even decrease faggots
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>>593468095
>The ice melts, more water is added
Ice is water
>lrn2science
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Anyone with half a fucking brain will know that the water will stay the same...
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It's b

The reason being that the each block of ice Will displace the same mass of water as what that block weighs (a 50gram ice block will raise the water as if 50grams of water was added to the glass)

This means the water will stay the same level.

Only reason the seawater rises when the icecaps melt is because a lot of that hunk of ice is above sea level AND supported by land beneath, propping it in to the air
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>>593465811
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>>593463941

Ice displaces water according to its weight, which doesn't change when it melts. When it melts, it "displaces" water according to its volume. So this would depend on how much ice there is, and how big the glass is.
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>>593469150
Anyone with a full brain will know the correct answer...
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>>593464916
Quads don't lie nigger
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>>593464774
kek
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>>593468239
I bet u are a gay boy dick penis lover, you dont kno anything about science, this is grade 2 stuff idiot, the electrons are make the size of the water
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>>593463941

The cubes of ice are less dense than the water. As they melt the water level would decrease.

>Ice melts water level lowers
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>>593469953
>Protip if they were not less dense they wouldn't float.
Just like a witch...
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Water level goes down, unless you are implying I got a glass of water to watch ice melt.
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>>593467433
>being this autistic
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>>593463941
As a smart person I must ask is the temperature of the water at the same temperature before and after? If that's the case then the water will not rise. If the temperature is getting hotter then the water will rise as it becomes less dense.
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>>593464774
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>>593463941
Floating ice takes up the same volume of water that it displaces. This thread is dildos.
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>>593464444
Did no one fucking notice these quads?
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>>593464774
>one electron of water
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>>593463941
the water would rise because the ice cubes are not fully submerged.
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>>593469823
>the electrons are make...

Kek inbred
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>>593464774
>one water of frozen electron
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It will lower water expands when frozen
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>>593471623

If english isnĀ“t your strong, I can speak your language too:

BEEP BOOP, TAKA TAKA BOO
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As you can see, the amount of water displaced is equal to the amount of water the ice will melt into.
Therefore the water level will stay the same. It's almost immediate when you do the math - that kinda surprised me. The formula for the volume of displaced ice was unnecessary
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>>593466469
the volume difference for all practicality though would be negligible.
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>>593471962
I have over a million confirmed keks in the US army man's and ima come for you sonny Jim...
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>>593463941

Should stay the same.
Because the water rises when you place ice in it cause the ice displaces water
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neither you dips, the water level would fall considering water expands when frozen and when it melts the water level would fall, if the cup was all ice the height would rise
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>>593472029
>>593472049

> given volume of liquid water at room temperature will increase in volume by about 9.05% after freezing

>>593469823
>>593469953

Anything that says otherwise is baiting. Water solidifies in a structure that makes it take up moar volume than liquid water.
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>>593465811
UNDERRATED POST
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>>593473169
Yes, but it turns out that 9.05% of the ice is sticking out of the water. That is what this >>593472029
shows. The ice is displacing water before it melts. When it melts, the water level would indeed fall WERE IT NOT for the fact that some of the ice was not in the water. It's simple math once you can unerstand the physics.
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>>593464774

I feel kinda sorry for you... here.
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>>593463941
stays the same, yes ice is less dense than water but the mass of it is the same, it's just there are more air molecules in the ice, so it floats slightly to counteract the lower density.

tl;dr the ice will decrease in volume by the exact amount of ice that is above the surface (providing the ice is perfectly still)

so it will stay the same


>mfw so many retards in this fucking thread
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>>593474184
What does that picture even prove?
It's just a diagram of the water atom.
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>>593464390
You are correct, sir.
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>>593474948
here's proof for everyone, notice how once the ice is suspended completely in the water the level doesn't change as it melts, everyone who got this wrong kill yourselves
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>>593476660
forgot the fucking gif because im a cunt
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>>593476933
Fake
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>>593477644
no, that's what happens, as long as ice is free floating, the ice will displace water mass equal to its own mass, however dense it is, provided it is water (which is hydraulic)
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>>593477937
No, that's what happens when you use green screen
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>>593476933
Bait
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>>593463941
If the ice is fully submerged the water level will slightly lower because the water expands when it freezes due to lattice structure.
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>>593476933
Fait
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>>593478828
you're a retarded faggot m8, literally LOOK at the gif and see that your gcse science is rem-tier ball-gaggingly shit as wank
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The water expands when frozen, so all the water that it displaces would equalize when melted.

Bottom option.
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>>593464661
xd
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water level stay the same. ice cubes take up mass in forces water to rise. when ice melts, fluid water replaces the mass of the icecubes leaving the water level to remain constant
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what
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>>593464774
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The volume of displacement is directly related to the weight of the ice, therefore the volume displaced decreases at exactly the same rate the ice melts and has nothing to do with the expansion due to hydrogen bonds (and other stupid chemistry shit).

The interesting point would be if the ice cubes float at exactly the mid-height point. If they floated lower than that then the minuscule difference in gravitation acceleration towards the Earth would cause the ice to be pulled down less, as more mass would be at the top meaning less pull as it's further away.

Of course you'd have to compare this TINY effect to the effect of the air current flowing over something lumpy compared to the relatively smooth surface of pure water. I think that would cause a bigger issue.
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Fucking assholes are gonna make me go to the kitchen and do this shit
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didn't read through thread but
>if you fill the cup while ice cubes are in, doesn't change
>if you add them after, however much the ice made it rise will stay at that level
>tl'dr stays the same fucking level
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>>593463941
oh my god you're all so stupid
>ice is less dense than water
>therefore floats when it displaces enough water to support its weight
>as ice melts its mass decreases so needs to displace less water to stay afloat, but there is more water in the glass
>water level says the same
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Remains the same
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>>593475501
>water atom
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ha ha ha
Water has a crystalline structure
meaning it takes up more space per unit than liquid water
As it melts it takes up less space
WATER LEVEL FALLS
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>>593463941
one cubic centimetre of water = 1mL
one cubic centimetre of ice = ~0.98mL

the water level will decrease
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Displacement. Why aren't ocean levels falling.?!?!?!????????!!! AhyAA!
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>>593463941
Most people will say it will stay the same due to displacement etc (as did I until I tested the theory) but I can in fact tell you it will burst into flames
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>>593484676
Nice bait faggot the mass of the ice is already displacing the water

>>593484866
Because the ice on land melts and goes into the sea, along with all the other water that falls as rain.
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>implying
Density of water is inversely proportional to its temperature
The ice cools the water, increasing its density
Some may say its negligible, but fuck them

The water level will go down.. an incredibly small amount
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The water would not rise, because water expands when it freezes. Try putting a full bottle of water in the freezer, notice how the ice is magically at the top of the bottle?

Same principle to why roads get some of their cracks when not built properly, water seeps in and doesn't drain out the baserock, stays there, freezes, and cracks.

Everyone who said the level goes the same/drops is on the right idea.
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>>593485392
I refuse to take your 'scientific' graph seriously while you're still using neolithic units of measurement
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>>593485354
basically all water that falls as rain has been evaporated from the ocean at one point and eventually flows back into it, only to be evaporated again.

Rain has nothing to do with it
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>>593485700
Yeah, i noticed that
its especially weird seeing Celsius and CM are directly relatable to water..
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>>593485981
That's precisely my point as to why the ocean levels don't drop read the comment I'm relying to
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>>593485354
Thanks man I was freaking out for a second cause I'm baked.
Also check em.
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>>593468095
No it's not you fucking nigger, that's like saying water is carpet you sandpaper sniffer sniffer
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>>593486304
whoopsies
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ice floating in water displaces the same amount of water as the amount of liquid it will become when it melts; i.e., no rise in level.
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>>593463941
Water level would rise slightly due to the ice floating with some portion above the water line. As it melts the portion above the water line adds its volume to the water as well, and the water level would rise.

Of course, the water level could also rise because the temperature of the water would overall be warmer once the ice had melted, and warm water takes up more volume than cold water.
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>>593463941
If the cubes are floating, the level stays the same,

If a fuckton of ice is crammed in with air in between, the water level will rise
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>>593464953
This is the right answer food science MD here we calculated this in real life for frozen food package
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