>>592003595 >>592004023 These are shopped images taken from m chan. There is an entire thread of them there. Nice try fag. But I do support the right of pedophiles to be free from demonization by the ignorant.
>>592002161 pedosexual myself here. fuck you OP. pedosexuals have no place in society, they are not ready to accept it is a condition. i suggest you bottle up your feelings and shut the fuck up about it. keep to your loli threads and don't talk about it. that's what psychopaths have to do.
>>592002161 I agree. While I cant understand being attracted to children since my brain is not that way, I highly doubt people would actually choose it if they could help it. Simply shunning pedos, locking them away, abusing them and treating them as less than human will never solve the issue, just allow it to continue to exists as we pretend we can ignore it. Yeah its a fucked up and unfortunate roll of the genetic dice but that doesn't mean the person is terrible. Especially if they know not to act on their impulses. Scientists can figure out pills that will let an 80 year old man get an erection, they'll develop therapy programs to help psychotic people and shitty drug addicts, but nobody bothers to try and think of a way to figure out and solve the mind of someone attracted to children.
>>592002161 Nah, I'm fine with pedos, until they molest someone, that's the difference, in the same way that I'm fine with people who fantasise about rape until they rape someone, your right to do what you like and be who you are ends where your actions start to hurt others.
>>592005678 see what happened is, people used to actually have a real life and an internet life. and people would come here to troll and let out their depraved sides for keks. But our society moved into a modern age where the kids became shut in, pilled out, technology mind controlled basement dwelling pussies and /b/ and the internet actually became their entire, "real" lives. So since this is the only social contact and "friends" theyve ever known, they think its appropriate to express their sensitive feelings and bullshit like that. It's sad, I know.
While they shouldn't be persecuted for what they want, that doesn't mean they are entitled to pursue it. If I desperately want to be a serial killer that doesn't mean people should line up for me to slit their throats. The problem is that people as young as some of these deviants desire don't have the kind of self awareness it would take to make a responsible decision. Their concept of values is based almost entirely on what they are told. To further complicate the issue of acquiring consent there is an inherent power relationship between children and adults. In addition, when internal feelings towards sex have not yet developed, there's no way to tell how the child would feel about the sexual acts when they are of age to have their own sexual pursuits.
In short, even if we establish it's ok to be a pedophile, it can not be ok to act on it. That is, until we develop loli sex bots.
I am a pedo but don't think we should be allowed to have sex with kids. They just aren't ready. I can't help that I am attracted to them, but it doesn't give me the right to have sex with them. The only thing I'd argue is that we shouldn't become social pariahs for trying to follow the law - indulging our fetish without harming anyone and keeping it to ourselves. By all means, prosecute the CP producers and distributors, but stop sentencing the innocent guys who just fap to it on occasion but never save it or distribute it to a life of shame and unemployment just to make a point.
We don't prosecute people who fap to gore or play call of duty for murder, so stop prosecuting people for looking at pics of kids as if it's the same thing as fucking the kids.
Why is it OK to be born attracted to the same sex, or born thinking you were suppose to be a girl. But if you find a 14 year old and you both agree to a relationship it's immoral. Or what if you are born with an attraction towards animals?
>>592006876 how is that retarded? I would really like to have sex with emma watson and taylor swift, but I understand why the laws prevent me from doing so, just like I understand why I am not allowed to fuck the kids i'm attracted to
Is this seriously a thing now? Remember when we told you if you allow homosexuals, you are paving the way to acceptance for other perverts? That was the beginning of the end and the end is approaching faster and faster.
>>592008332 You opened the door when you gave fags the right to fuck and even get married. All we are doing is opening it a little wider. It's not the end. It's called freedom for all to be who they are? Why do you hate what you don't understand?
>>592004561 What was I disagreeing with? I was merely attempting to clear the air. When the masses are persecuting the wrong group, the intelligent have an obligation to stop it, lest they wish things to become worse than they already are. Not, I am aware, that someone like you would have a problem with that, believing that there is no "right or wrong" as these are just man-made constructs designed to "cage us into" society.
Yes, they were right, in the fact that the current system stomps on more than one minority. They just expressed that stomping those minorities is a good thing, which it isn't. Everyone should have a right to be, as long as they don't break other's liberties.
>>592009011 What it comes down to is either: A. An absolute, moral standard (ie god and such thing as right and wrong). Which means we are all fucked. Or B. Nothing is really right or wrong. Everything is permissible, no absolute moral truth. And everybody can do whatever they want.
pedophiles have EVERY right not only to be attracted to children but to seek sexual pleasure with them. It's the natural order of things. Of course all the zebras think the lions have a right to want to kill them and eat them but they shouldn't have a right to actually do it. It's the same difference. Everyone saying pedos have a right to exist but not act out are as illogical as fuck.
>>592009672 Because, either there is a such thing as a moral absolute truth, or there isn't. Something is either wet, or its dry. Its either light or its dark. It either contains heat, or is void of heat(energy)
>>592009366 Of course there is an absolute moral standard. Consenting adults, eh who the fuck cares. Children are a different story. I do hope this movement makes the feminazi's of the world shut the hell up, so that way we as a people can start moving in the right direction, instead of fighting over petty shit.
>>592010489 If there is a definition for what makes one feel good, must there not also be a definition for what is wrong? Nothing cannot be wrong, and wrong cannot be nothing. Wrong exists as a concept, so too does feeling good
>>592010367 Forbidding the lion to be who it naturally is is wrong. Who are the zebras to tell the lion it is wrong? The lion doesn't give a fuck. It will be who it is regardless. No difference to what is being discussed in this thread.
>>592005772 This is a girl who has reached puberty. Fucking her makes you a statutory rapist, not a pedo. She has started to mature sexually, but has not reached the age where she can consent to sex. There's a difference.
>>592005372 Well that is true to a certain extent, but can I plan a suicide bombing in a public school, where I'll kill 200 children, and as long as I don't actually carry it out, I should have the right to get to the point where I will? It's a bit more complex than that, as most of these crimes are actually premeditated.
No it doesn't. In the eyes of the law, you are a statutory rapist. That is the crime you'll get charged for if you touched her. The public may call you a pedo, but that's because the word has become a misnomer and is used incorrectly.
>>592011221 In 7th grade, I had a gf that told be she lost her virginity at 11 to a guy who was 21. She actually consented to it (she wasn't lying, she had pretty bad daddy issues and some seriously fucked up home problems) so yes it IS possible that a girl as young as 11 can consent to sex... HOWEVER
Everyone agrees it is MORALLY wrong to seduce a girl that young because they can't see through your BS and you will tell them whatever they want.
We've all seen the Chris Hansen "how to catch a predator" These 40 year old guys aren't coming over to genuinely express their love.. theyre trying to manipulate a young girl with DREAMS AND LOLLIPOPS AND LOVE so they can fuck a tight hole.
>>592012137 But what about when that persons right to naturally be who they are denies the right of someone else to naturally be who they are, by, for example, ending their life prematurely, or keeping them locked up?
>>592012404 I'm aware that an 11 year old can consent to sex. What I meant was that LEGALLY she cannot. Regardless of whether or not she consented, the law says she can't. That's why it's statutory rape.
>>592002161 Being a pedophile myself, I find this movement quite fucking amazing, but not historically speaking suprising. I mean: we had pretty much similar attempts happening in the seventees, shortly after the sexual revolution of the hippies era.
It was just as dumb idea as it is today, and it's never going to catch on.
As far as being one of the people this group's interests is supposed to represent: Nah, fuck you. I agree that general perception of pedophilia could do with some alternations, but this is riddiculous.
Pedophilia is a deviation. And a deviation that causes urges which are very much difficult to satisfy without posing larger social risk or damage. That is why there is a stygma about it. Claiming it's the same as homosexuality is frankly obviously false.
I don't need other people to justify or validate my sexual deviation. I don't need to construct my identity through it either. I'm all too aware that our society needs normatives: even when I'm fundamentally hardwired to have urges that don't allign with them. And I think people recognizing the importance of protection of children, as well as generally more rational, pragmatic and stronger means to maintain family as strong institutions have waaay higher priority of than validating my admitedly and quite objectively broken urges.
Pedophiles should be taught to deal with their problem by recognizing that greater social interests takes precedence over their urges. Embracing the thought that pedophilia is merely an obstacle in your life that you will have to deal with is the only way to go.
Doing otherwise just sets up a potentially dangerous precedence.
>>592002161 There's a difference between you and gay people.
When we gave gays the right to be themselves, the ultimate end was them having sex with other consenting adults who were just like them. You don't want that, you want the right to engage in sexual acts with a different group that is totally unable to consent. Until I have finished rolling around in my goddamned grave, I will fire any pedophile I find working in my store. I don't care how the law changes, you are sick and you desperately need help and I will not give a single dollar to any of you.
Stop comparing yourselves to gays. You aren't out there fighting the good fight for equal rights, you are sitting in your room masturbating to toddlers. What's next? What's your ultimate goal?
>In Muslim countries men marry girls who are 9 years old, why can't pedophiles!? >Cavewomen were giving birth when then were 11, why can't my girlfriend!? >Women can teach college classes full of men, why can't pedophiles teach preschool!?
You could find a bullshit excuse for every demand you make, but the fact is you are predators preying on children. The world will never be able to see past that simple and truthful aspect of what you are, and that is how it should be.
>>592012404 >We've all seen the Chris Hansen "how to catch a predator" These 40 year old guys aren't coming over to genuinely express their love.. theyre trying to manipulate a young girl with DREAMS AND LOLLIPOPS AND LOVE so they can fuck a tight hole.
While this is true, it's also basically what men do to sleep with 22 year old women. "oh you're so funny and pretty and interesting, yes of course I'd love to hear some of your poetry, wow this is so weird it's like we have this spiritual connection, oh my god, hey so can I put my dick in you?"
It's obviously a shitty thing to do, but to equate it with RAPE in a legal sense is pretty ridiculous. What matters is informed consent to sexual activity; knowing what you are doing and wanting to do it. The idea that you can be "too young to know" is kind of silly; yes, there's a point where your brain literally can't (at like 8 years old) but really what's going to slap you with consequences is inexperience. Abstain from sex until age 23 and you'll make all the same stupid, irresponsible choices about your first time as someone who first had sex at 13.
>>592005725 then why send them to school? they do learn things motherfucker, yeah believe it or not you can teach them things. not saying I agree (I don't like people who fuck with kids sexually or otherwise) but they are not the blobs of useless functionless protoplasm you believe they are.
all men like young girls, they just don't admit it because of the pedo witch hunt. Yeah it's gross to like little kids or toddlers, but if you don't like young girls you're a faggot. girls get hot at about 12 when their boobies start to form
>>592013219 But that counters your previous point. And no. As society currently stands, you have fat useless idiots living off the state. You have the mentally challenged being helped. Right now, it definitely is NOT a case of who is the strongest or smartest "winning" in society. Further more, just because the majority says something is right, you believe that to be right? Have you no autonomy? Are you so influenced by other people that you can throw all your morals away in a second to adapt to what the majority thinks is right, regardless of how wrong it may or may not be? You're ridiculous son
>>592012137 >Everyone should have a right to be who they naturally are. To say otherwise is, by definition, wrong. \thread This is about everything that is wrong with modern idiots not understanding the basic foundations of human social structures.
No, not everyone should have a right to be who they naturally are. Ones right to express or identify themselves can only exist as long as it does not contradict the interests of the larger group. We are a cooperative society: that is the foundation of our survival strategy.
CERTAIN degree of freedom can actually help the prolonged cooperative efforts by relieving certain degree of stress that might stemm from having to conform to models that don't come as natural to you. But there is a very clear, VERY pragmatic line to this. People should not all have rights to be who they naturally are: people should be granted a carefully calculated degree of freedom to ensure creating unnecessary stress buildup that could potentially harm the cooperative strategies further.
>>592013371 >While this is true, they do the same to 22 year old women
Right but they moved on to younger girls because they needed an easier target.
I don't think those guys should be publicly humiliated for wanting to fuck a tight hole.. that's just what men want.. we just want a tight hole and a hot body.. and let's be honest the ages of 13-25 are the best bodies you can possibly get.
I think pedophile shouldn't be as harsh an accusation as it is.. but at the same time.. the ones actually going out and preying on little girls are MORALLY wrong and should be discouraged
>>592008822 because some people's genes are fucked, thats the long and short of it faggot.
you know 500 years ago, we just killed broken people.. what if we let this shit continue, this bullshit "you can be whatever you want to be" whining liberal horse shit, if you let this go on long enough, it will destroy humanity ALL BY ITSELF.
you're supposed to hunt all day and fuck your wife all night, not beat off to kids on the internet you fucking motherfuckers you're killing us all.
Sex with people under the age of consent or child porn can really fuck up people's lives. My friend was in court ordered rehab for a spell, and she told me that literally everyone there besides her had been sexually abused as a child.
>>592013315 >you realize the MAIN GOAL of this "revolutionary movement" is to allow adults to fuck children, right? I don't think so, really. I think it's more in line of all the other identity of the movement: validating the right of an individual to identify himself as "something". Because the identity is such an incredibly important subject to so many people today.
Going through their materials, I don't see anything suggesting actual alternations to legal statuses of minorities, they don't seem to challenge the notion of "consensus" as far as I can see.
Admitedly, I haven't read through all of it.
And if you are right, and the final goal of this movement is really legalizing right of adults to fuck kids, then it's just going to make it all the more short-lived and dumb.
>>592013873 That's a generalisation backed by exactly zero statistics on your part, zero evidence, and the assumption that 100% of paedophiles behave that way. Many are ashamed of themselves. Many kill themselves. You cannot generalise an entire groups behaviour if even one single person from that group is different. And lets face it man, what are the chances that EVERY single paedophile buys child pronography? Literally every single one?
>>592014303 This has scarcely anything to do with genetics, dude. In any way. Eliminating pedophiles from the "genepool" is not actually going to remove pedophila from existence: it's a developmentary deviation, not a genetical one. On the other hand, excusing people on the basis of them "having it in their genes" is also the wrong way to do.
Pedophiles don't chose who they are: but that should be completely irrelevant. They should be neither persecuted on the basis of being pedophiles, neither should them being pedophiles be considered an excuse for their illegal actions...
In the end: ALL that should matter is that we need to create a broad, generally agreeable, pragmatic rules about where an individual gains the right to consent, and then persecute the fact that some people refuse to respect it. It should be the pedophilia that we persecute, it should be the lack of self-restraint or selfishness of people.
>>592013873 The real blame in that instance is on the creators of that material. Their target audience has no direct involvement. Many paedophiles hate themselves, and become a victim of an addiction thanks to the creators of this material, and can then end up becoming child molesters, which are the real problem.
As a man, I'm attracted to girls from ages 16-50 depending. I've found that the youngest girl I've ever been attracted to (as an adult) was about 12-13 years old. Admittedly, she was developed and looked about 15-16.
I support this redefining of "pedophiles/pedosexuals" because I know what it's like to be attracted to a very young girl and feel an immediate shame because of it.
If you attracted to a young girl, it's your MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to avoid pursuing any sexual desires.. though you shouldn't feel shameful for THINKING of it. If you want to fuck a child, go to Taiwan or some human trafficking country.. but children must remain morally off-limits
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