Guys how do I deal with jealousy? I wanna make it work with this girl but my jealousy is out of control.
>3 yrs with 10/10 huge tits slim waist great girl the works. >she goes overseas to Italy for a 3 week university unit (it's worth double points or something) >she has a terrible time, the girls are all mean to her, she stops eating, gets blackout drunk, hurts herself. Can't do anything back here but empathise and say I'm sorry it's going poorly. >she has organised time at a Mensa youth camp thing when the unit is over, before she comes back. >I hate Mensa - it's full of insecure people who only care about their smartness number. Also like 90% dudes. >She has the greatest time apparently. But doesn't contact me very much during it. >First contact I have in a week is seeing an album of photos she posts on facebook of her having fun with a whole lot of the european guys, many photos of her close one-on one, looking almost coupley. >hurts like fuck >have fight when she gets back, because one of them posted some comment on her photo calling her babe with a love heart. >she apologises. >Things are OK for a while.
>end of year, go to Japan together with a couple our mutual (originally mine) male friends. >One of them is taller than me. >She and he get along really well. Always walk together. Have staring contests. Private jokes. >She starts drinking with him and the other guy every night (I don't drink - father alcoholic). After a few nights I say could we do something else because I feel left out. >once night off, then back to drinking. >finally get mad walking up a mountain because she will only walk with him. I try dropping back, walking ahead, trying to keep pace - nothing works. Halfway up, she asks me what's wrong. I ask if she could walk with me more. >She gets mad that I was 'running experiments' on her. >At the top of the mountain, she tells him I'm mad at her for walking with him (in private - I only find this out later from him). >This friend starts acting strange because he realises I'm jealous. >Start talking with gf about why he might be acting so strange. She tells me she has no idea why. >They decide to get wicked drunk that night at the hostel. >Everyone drinking but me. Second guy drinking quietly in the corner. >GF and guy chatting almost exclusively. Try to join in but conversation really revolves around those two. >At one point my gf actually gets in his bed saying it's much comfier (previously they were both sitting on the floor) >Soon after she ends up vomiting in the toilet. >Go comfort her. >She sends me away, saying she'd prefer 'one of the other guys'. >this guy was standing outside the door. >go to get her water. >when I come back, he's stroking her back as she heaves into the toilet, saying it'll be OK etc. >thats my fucking job. >fuck it, sleep in a different bed. >next day rant: why she doesn't have any female friends and that all her male friends want to sleep with her (probably unfair, but I was hurting) >resolve things >flight back, despite being really unwell, has one last beer with him, and falls asleep on his arm with her legs on me.
>>591911892 >>591911593 Drop the bitch. So not worth it. She's more than likely cheating on you. Prefers someone else's company to yours. Get your fucking shit together faggot. So many different girls out there. You do have a right to be jealous, but a loyal girl wouldn't do this.
yup, you're literally wasting your time here. You can get out now, or just continue in this lame ass, game-playing, relationship until she ends it or you catch her cheating.
She is doing either of 2 things:
She's already looking to move on, but doesn't yet know how to break the news, or isn't sure if she's ready to leave you yet. (Usually this ends in her cheating on you to see if its worth leaving you, testing the water).
Or, you are creeping her out with your insecurities and neediness - and she's trying to pluck up the courage to leave you without hurting your feelings. As soon as she has the courage she'll dump your ass and start banging the new guy ASAP.
Oh, or she is just immature as hell and enjoys playing lame games. In either case your best bet is to get rid of her. If its worth saving, she'll be so upset you'll know its worth saving. If not she is already, or is going to, fuck someone else.
Find a few other chicks to do the friends thing with, and just use yours as the cumcatcher she is. If she doesn't start clamoring to get your attention back, you'll already have some replacements lined up.
>>591912702 Its pretty fucked up that she told you to get someone else when she needed comfort. Not to mention the guy she met in Italy wouldn't call her babe for reason. She clearly doesn't care enough to notice you're hurting from her neglecting you for other people. I'd try to get over her OP
Hmm my room mate dated a girl for two years and this started happening.
He would never drink He'd never go to parties
They had an insanely boring relationship but they were "happy"ish for two years. After that two year mark.. I guess something just snapped. She finally dumped him and told him she'd been partying for the last several months and realized what she was missing.
Maybe you're an insanely dull and boring person and she's realizing what she was missing.
As for jealousy.. what you should have done was made friends with a woman there and did the same. I mean seriously.. as a man in Japan, women literally are pretty much on a leash for you. A lot of Japanese men want nothing to do with them and Japanese women fear they may die out in a couple of generations (true story).
How do you fight jealousy? Ignore her. Let her hang out with whoever. Do the things you like to do with another girl. You're allowed to have friends.
>>591912238 Don't try to keep her. I spent 6 years of my life with a girl who physically looked like what you described. Fuckin 10/10 could be porn star body.
She did the same shit, not to the extent that your girl did, but close. It'll suck to lose her, and for a long time you'll be upset about it and wonder if you'll ever do better. Keep working out and find a cute girl with a good personality who doesn't fuck around. You'll feel like a retard for every wanting to stick it through with the current girl. Just remember that looks always fade. One day you'll be old and nasty. Pick a girl who you can be best friends with that makes you feel happy.
It's easier said than done, and this is one of those things that you'll have to learn from experience before it actually makes sense. Ditch her now, get past the hurt of losing her or you're going to have to deal with the hurt of her breaking your heart, which will be 100x worse. Also, ditch that fuck head friend of yours. He's clearly a faggot. Let them be together. It wont last and she'll regret ever fucking around on you.
you're moving on to stage 2: the cluckening where she cheats on you emotionally by displacing you as an object of affection and expects you to take it like a doormat because she already got away with banging euro dudes
>>591914256 Contrary to what a lot of these anons are saying your jealously will implode the relationship if she notices you are freaking out constantly. At the same time the drinking etc in Japan was kind of fucked it sounds like she was getting sick of you and knew even if she was a complete bitch you would just get jealous or clamor for her attention. Calm down and act confident around her, then maybe ignore her a little more then usual and see if she takes the effort to contact you or get your attention.. I think thats a good way to see if there is any future in that relationship.
>>591914944 OK this is good advice. I did this for a week as a test, and she got really sad, and then finally when we resolved things, she fucked my brains out. Dirty anal, cum swallowing, 3 times in one day, couldn't get enough of me.
But do I really want to be playing emotionally manipulative games like that the rest of my life?
>>591914701 Find a girl who treats you like you treat her - the one and only rule for being happy with someone you'll ever need. You sound like a really nice person who puts yourself over others to make them happy, and in turn get shit on because people take advantage of you because they know all they'll have to do is bullshit an apology and you'll forgive them. The sooner you come to terms with this the better.
Dump her and move on. She's playing the field for sure. She keeps you around because she prefers a real dick as opposed to dildo. Eventually she will trade you up and string you along just in case. Be a man and don't let a piece of ass walk all over your dignity.
>>591911593 >>591911892 Your jealousy is warranted because she's made you uncomfortable. Prepare yourself emotionally for the break up, she most likely fucked one of the dudes on the trip, (who the fuck lets their gf go anywhere alone for weeks lmao) Shes either already fucked or going to try fuck your friend, he's an asshole too for not having your back. Think about how fucking quick she'd dump your ass or get bitchy if you spent an entire trip talking with another girl and sleeping in her bed, telling her you prefer the other girls to help you out. just hatefuck the slut while you emotionally detatch and find yourself another gf, next time dont be jealous, be controlling.
Find yourself another bitch, and flirt openly with her, when your gf sees this, she will either get jealous, or she won't give a fuck, probably the latter, and if so, you have your answer as to what you should do. Dump her.
>>591916145 I know she's less jealous. I've mentioned other girls who have showed interest, and she just says things like 'be careful!' but doesn't get upset. I think she would still give a fuck though.
>>591916154 Give her an ultimatum if you're really so hesitant to break it off. Stop being such a bloody whore or you're gone. Still, I feel like this is gonna end bad for you in the end if you don't end it.
>>591915962 I actually had to construct the whole trip with reversed genders before she actually saw anything worth being sorry for. I sometimes wonder if she lacks a bit of empathy because she is 3 yrs younger than me. I'm 26, she's 22.
>>591912332 She knows something is wrong, but she's a selfish person who is unwilling to change her actions. Look at how she acts when you express your feelings to her. She does things to make it worse. She knows something is wrong and she is intentionally pretending that there is no problem in an attempt to condition you to bottle up those feelings.
>>591915168 If you guys are young she might just enjoy flirting and the attention of other guys. This doesn't really mean she wont cheat unfortunately, that really depends on her. I don't necessarily think its manipulation, you don't need to ignore her or anything.. I just think that you will not be in a position of power (with this comes attraction) or confidence if you appear as a needy and over-jealous guy. it sucks because it seems obvious she is being flirty tbh and who knows what the situation is but your current course isnt going to fix anything. I would have been pretty furious if I was ignored for some other dude an entire hike.
Listen here you faggot nigger... and listen good... Much like the other Anon in this thread, I had a girlfriend for 6 years and she fucking tore my heart out. This story is different, it is more of the after effects if you break up with her.
I loved this one girl to death and she said she loved me, yet she did the same shit yours did. We broke up once the falling out happened and I found out she cheated on me for a year, and it was oddly about a year ago it happened. 2 months later we argued again and she literally DESTROYED my feelings for her, to the point where I treated her coldly when she tried to text me. 5 months go by, the night of July 4th, she texts me a huge 13 page "Come back... I miss you" text and like an idiot I took her back... In about 2 whole months, she and I slowly drift apart since she is now going to university and we almost stopped all communications, so I just assume she is done with me, so I am done with her. Whoever has her now can deal with her baggage, as it is not worth what I went through.
Ok /b/ro, I'm gonna give you some honest advice since I've gone through a lot of this and overcome it.
Let's say she's not cheating on you. From her point of view, you're looking like a needy chode whose constantly jealous and confronting her. She is obviously unattracted to this so might go to other guys to resolve her feelings.
In other words, acting jealous, whether she is already cheating or not, will certainly guarantee that she starts cheating.
You needy to give her some space. Perhaps go talk to soime other girls. Fuck a few if you can. Maybe she will see that you have changed and no longer give a fuck and come running back to you. Or maybe she won't. But who cares, because you have 10 other bitches to choose from.
TL;DR: Fuck 10 other bitches then see if you're still jealous.
>>591916428 But here, I've literally JUST been in your position, and I realize now how fucking blind I was during the relationship, I thought I loved her, and she was the one, and wanted to have kids with her and so forth.
But tough shit, if a girl is making you jealous or creating these thoughts that there is something wrong with YOU, and actually led you to ask /b/ for advise, she ain't worth it, bro. Trust me, the pain will pass in a week or so, at least it did for me.
>>591916823 this is what i did to my best friend (not gf though) who used to be obsessed over me but i told her i'd rather be friends (actually from all the shit she told me of ex bf's) after i told her i kinda liked her she went nuts and kept asking me why i wouldnt date her. totally had a falling out with her and i moved and we slowly stopped talking then talked again and now i kinda purposely have shit conversations with her for her sake
>>591914944 >Contrary to what a lot of these anons are saying your jealously will implode the relationship if she notices you are freaking out constantly. Jealousy only destroys a relationship when it doesn't get expressed. When you tell your significant other how you feel then they either try to help alleviate your feelings or they ignore it and get pissy. People get jealous, that's just reality. If you care about the person you are making jealous then the natural empathic response is to help them through it. If you just get upset that they're expressing emotions that they have no control over then the relationship will implode because of YOU.
It would be another story if OP was just brooding in his jealousy and not saying anything, but that isn't the case.
>>591915475 Emotional comfort is a key part of relationships. If you're feeling negative emotions from the relationship, and you express that to her and nothing changes... then that is a solid reason to break up.
You need to make her realize the severity of the situation, if you haven't already. If nothing changes, then you have to move on because you will never find a comfortable emotional place within that relationship.
>>591917361 Well I will say if you plan on being together for a long time then sometimes when you guys get in arguments she will have to be the one to help rebuild the bridges. >>591917566 Yes, but guys can implode relationships when they are literally just freaking out over jealous stuff constantly. I'm not saying don't express it, he should seriously express his concerns but if he is constantly a jealous wreck then the relationship will bomb.
>>591912548 Dude, he knew what was happening. And so did she. He's a bad friend for letting that happen, if it had been me and she asked me to comfort her while she was sick, I'd be like I'll go get your boyfriend for you, that's his job. That's what a real friend would do, this is not a real friend. Is this still going on? I really think you should stop being friends, or atleast talk to him about it
>>591917566 I say she doesn't think anything is wrong, but that is an exaggeration. I think she doesn't realise how bad this has been affecting me. I try very hard to communicate, but she often closes up when we talk about emotions like that, which makes it hard.
And she feels guilty, I know. She has apologised for everything I have been upset by.
>>591915962 >who the fuck lets their gf go anywhere alone for weeks lmao Well she's a free person. She would let me go. She's currently on a conference overseas again, for 10 days. Sucks that it happened to be right when I was starting my new career - a stressful time, but I guess she didn't know the exact time I would start it when she applied.
>>591917361 OP. Think. Who is she putting first? You? Or the other fags she's been downright flirting with? Obviously she would try to be accommodating to your feelings if she truly cared about you more than her trivial friendships.
Ok well here are the facts. 1. You asked her to do many things to make you comfortable that she has not done. but also it sounds like you can bring up these insecurities of yours without attacking her. so you might be pushing her away. But neither what you asked what she did is so egregious that its relationship ending. But the fact of the matter isthat it made you uncomfortable and she did it anyway.
2.the whole Facebook comment thing says to me that she is not standing up for your relationship.
Trust is two ways and it sounds that you are a little hyper sensitive. it also sounds like your self worth is a little low. I have low hopes of this relationship really working out(sorry). you have to understand being consumedby jealousy with absolutely no domination tends to be a big turnoff for girls. also the not drinking thing can be a big hurdle because a lot of people find it bonding (I know I am an alcoholic in recovery). and the only hopes of this working out in my eyes is if you get away from the codependency and just let her be herself otherwise you're just going to push her farther and farther away. I don't know if you know this but what you're describing is very codependent behavior and it's not healthy. you being the adult child of an alcoholic it's not uncommon in the slightest. Ok I'm done. I hope that helps.
>>591916499 http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-use-disorders/genetics-alcohol-use-disorders Shut up retard. People who have alcoholic family members know what they're talking about... whereas you're just being a stupid fucking faggot who thinks everyone should drink.
Aye. It is never worth the pain. As long as I can change one person's future for the better so they can get out of a terrible relationship, I will be happy overall. No one deserves to suffer what I went though. I can even make a list of what I would rather do than get back with her, everyone can feel free to join me in this.
I would much rather drag by balls across a 100 mile long field of barbed wire, salt, broken glass, Battery Acid and metals smelted to the point of melting than to ever get back with her.
I would rather stick a porcupine spike up my urethra than get back with her.
I would rather be eaten alive by chickens than to go back to her.
I would rather shove huge wooden unsanded, splinter covered dildo where the gain goes with the shaft up my ass than get back with her.
>>591915291 We're being honest, you're just blind and only want to hear what YOU want to hear, not what the truth is. You want us to reasure you that it's nothing and that "all girls do this, they're just being friendly" Well, it's not true. She's a cheap slut and your friends a douche.
>>591917361 >It's really hard to get her to empathise with me. Dump her. Seriously, if she can not empathize with men then she is a whore who is not worth having a relationship with. She will never make an effort to actually understand male feelings, and you do not want to deal with that.
Somebody worth being with won't want to put you in a situation where you need to feel this jealous. There is a good chance nothing is happening, but her behavior is still alarming, and I understand your jealousy.
Also your "friend" isn't worth shit. If my buddy's girl was hitting on me, I would be offputtingly friendly, and keep her at bay, not perpetuate the game she's playing.
I'm guessing you guys are under 25, because you both seem immature, which is fine; we all were at some point. I would suggest talking to her, but a lot of what you're feeling will probably go over her head. If she's worth it, ride it out and wait for her to grow up. If not, it's probably best to move on.
I know all about the insecurity and jealousy being a relationship killer. That's why I am trying to get it under control. Getting fitter has helped somewhat.
>>591918728 Nah I don't think so. They just send pictures of their pets back and forth (they both love animals).
>>591918736 No I appreciate input but those posts were just calling me bait.
>>591918782 Yeah I worry that she's a covert narcissist.
>>591919154 I kinda am a jealous wreck. I try and hold it in, then eventually she twigs something is up, and we have a big emotional discussion and I feel like a loser for not just being able to deal with it on my own. She does seem to care its just... not enough for me? IDK.
>>591916632 Its not about a lack of empathy, its that you're a bitch she can walk all over. When you criticize her behaviour do you ever bend her over your knee and spank her? Do you ever exercise your authority as a man? Do you ever give her the ultimatums of what she can and cannot do when she is in a relationship with you? Im sure you think all these things sound douchy or like an asshole, but its biologically what people respond to, she needs to be led so she doesnt end up a directionless whore, sounds like she's going down that path already if she thinks she can mess around with guys in any way while she has a bf
fuck what everyone says and fuck what your girl and friend says, you don't have time for that shit and you don't drink. which is a great thing. dump that bitch man, she obviously acts like a slut and has seen some dick in between man. you op you are a boss and you don't have time for bullshit. do you and find what you like and suits you the most so you don't have to deal with this any longer. besides you only have one life and would you want to spend time wasting away with that bitch playing games? Shes obviously immature and oblivious to herself. especially if she has a drinking problem.
>>591918696 I was lead on by a girl just like OP is describing. >Tells me she has feelings for me but isn't ready cause of just breaking up with bf. >kwhatevsi'llwait.jpg >she then acts like I should be doing stuff with her like walking her to class and texting her 24/7, hugging and being all relationshipy >no anon I act like this with all my friends >wut >I'm not ready for that yet >we can go back to being friends right?
>>591914501 Holy shit OP gtfo of there. Seriously. Keep exercising, get massive and the confidence will come with the muscle. When fit literally throw her to the curb. Literally. Like actually do it, maybe it will fuck up her face a bit and that combined with the realisation you don't need her anymore she will stop being an international bike. She is the worst kind of girlfriend and you're in the worst kind of relationship. End that shit right now and find someone else.
tl;dr End it she's fucking horrible, get fit find someone else.
>>591913026 THIS. I lived this. Anon here is 100% accurate and you should listen to him. I dated a girl for 4 years and she ended up cheating on me with a sniveling piece of shit who kept hanging from her cunt. If she is hanging out with another guy and he is giving her attention, hang it up. It's over. Or you stand up like a man and take it all back with some balls.
>>591911593 Bro jealousy is alright in some circumstances, this being one where it doesn't matter. Dont trust me or any other anons if want, but she definitely has cheated on you already. Excuse the fedora but most women act on emotion and will rationalize things (such as cheating) out as a passing or fleeting desire, or whatever the case. They're very fickle. Dump her while you can, because her dumping you will make it even worse. You'll be able to look back on this with confidence instead of pain and spite.
It's funny OP, all throughout this thread you've been doing nothing but defending this girl of yours. In a few months after she dumps your ass for being too beta you'll look back at this thread and realize how stupid and blind you were
People think I'm a massive beta but I actually want this to work.
I'm plenty attractive, and I have a good salary and prospects etc.
I just feel like being distant and alpha like I was when she first met me is inappropriate in a long term relationship. Like it feels rude. Aren't you supposed to allow yourself to be emotionally vulnerable in these things after a while?
>>591920243 >I really do believe she hasn't done anything though. You're a fool. Fast forward three weeks and you'll be making a thread about how she cheated on you and we'll all tell you how obvious the signs were.
>She just never realises when guys are flirting. A Fool.
>she doesn't believe anyone could be truly interested in her. A FOOOOOL!
>>591919817 >"friends" you are going to ignore all of our advice, and she is going to dump you and reveal shes been cheating for a year or something. maybe one day shes come back to you if you just move on right away, and youll take her back to have the same shit happen. about once a week someone humors themselves on here complaining how even though there are all these dick pics on their gfs phone, ones that look a lot like theyre in their best bros apartment, they still have faith in their gf even if it is a little shaky, and they hear stuff the dont want to hear. A month later they come back to complain about how women are sluts and they were cheated on and all this baww thread fodder. Ditch her, block her number, move away. >even though you won't
>>591921363 Yeah well I really don't want to. Are there things I can do besides completely cutting her out? Cos I want to see if I can make this work, and nothing concrete has happened yet that would make me walk.
Ouch, that is a painful one... It is the typical female bullshit though. One thing I must say is that when it gets to a certain point for any person, at one point you will fell like you would sacrifice yourself to let them live, but after so long you would rather let them die as you watch and laugh... maybe not laugh or watch them die, but you would essentially do nothing to help
>>591911593 I didn't even need to finish the second fuckig post. Now, again, I didn't finish it, nor do I need to. But your girl is giving off enough signs, to where it's obvious she's being very untrustworthy and not acting as though she's in a comiteed relationship. Now she might not be cheating, I don't know, but the way she's going about things, she might as well be. I don't know what you're going to do about this, Im not going to give you advice because I don't knew what you're like. But, if it was my girl...we'd be done. Whatch yourself op, things are not going to turn out he way you like all the time. Sometimes it's easier to give up than to push through the hurt and hope for the best. If she is the kind of girl I'm thinking of, it'll never get better for you. Does she want to get married someday and have kids? Watch out OP.
>>591912548 Lol for me her convince you you're in the wrong. I bet she told you that if it was a female it would be the same. You're a lost cause and you're just looking for someone to validate staying with her. You need to dump her. End f story.
>>591921696 it will never get better. I dont think you are understanding this. It will never get better with her. The longer you hold off, the more it will hurt. Move on now. Im not the only one who thinks this. Weve all been here before
I am poor and insecure so I made a girl I am attracted to sexually be in a monogamous relationship with me. Now I am dealing with the consequences of my actions. Comfort me /b/. Tell me everything's going to be ok.
>>591922551 You're working in a hospital. So med school. So science education. Right?
Human brains are not wired for lifelong pair-bonding. Read some studies. Romantic love lasts, on average, about three years, plus two per child (hence the "seven year itch"). I'm sure it was great in that time, but that's all you get. She's done. Be done with her.
Nigga you gotta ask her what her priorities are, and if she's really invested in this relationship. She won't even talk to you about emotional shit? The fuck? Relationships aren't all about fun and games, sometimes you need to have serious conversations and to discuss the relationship and if she can't do that then what the fuck are you doing with this bitch? Pull yourself together OP, talk to her. If she won't have it, MAKE her have it. Tell her that if she loves you, she'll hear out what you have to say.
tl;dr: stop being so beta, man the fuck up and talk to her
>>591922822 Yeah, well, if you want to stop feeling jealous that your girl is fucking around, you need to either stop her fucking around or find another girl. Or hit yourself in the head until you're into cuckolding.
>>591922922 so what, i should say "hey babe, I think we're done. I don't think you're really in to me anymore, and that's normal. Peace." then go find another girl to fall in love with until her 3 years are up too?
>>591922922 nigga I haven't even read any studies on it and I already believe you. Whenever I hear people talk about their relationship ending or drifting apart, plus from experience, it's always been after about 3 years. It's strange.
There's nothing wrong with being jealous. Contrary to what society believes, it's a natural and appropriate response to losing something of importance to you. It only becomes a problem when it consumes you or is rooted in irrationality.
The fact that your girlfriend was spending more time socializing with other men and telling you to go away when you try and comfort her would make anyone jealous. Try talking to her about why she feels the need to exclude and ignore you. If you can't work out a solution, dump her and move on because it sounds like she doesn't really care about you.
>>591923201 It is. It hurts. It's designed* to. The way you get over it is by moving on and finding someone else. Then when that relationship fails, you do it again, and again, until you get trapped into making people for a few decades.
>>591923311 That's a good idea, don't just straight up dump her, give her another chance but this time be more alpha. Wait a bit, and if she goes back to these same skanky habits then you walk, and you never look back.
>>591918318 Hahaha retards who cite the Internet and statistics. Listen up faggot, lay me lay soe thing on you that might blow your squirrel brain. My whole family is alcoholic. True story, my mom and her husband drink form 10am to ? My dad, Jesus man, his whole room is full of alcohol bottles to the brim. Now me, yeah, I like to drink at parties and cut loose. But guess what, I also DON'T need it. I've gone three weeks without a drink of alcohol next week, who know, if there's a party sure! If not, ill live. It's not always a genetics thing retard. It's really all about self control.
>>591923201 Remember to do what your gut tyells you. /b/ can provide you with some decent advice and good ideas, but don't straight out do whatever the fuck /b/ wants. Go with your gut and do what you feel is best. I feel that you should give her another chance after you talk to her, argue with her or even have a fight with her if that's what it takes to get her to listen.
Well you can do three things. Get an actual girlfriend and stay determained, get yourself a trap/tranny, or stick to your hand. Granted I personally would stick to hand than go to a trap/trenny but it is different person to person, so stay determained.
>>591924294 i was trying to be blunt here but the honest resoning is that you dont need a reason to end a relationship you arent happy with. Dont pretend you are either, weve been there too. She isnt being fair to you, and jealousy is tearing you apart. Her behavior and your reaction will end the relationship in a very painful way. Pull the plug now.
>>591927749 So. What do you like besides her looks? That seems to be a constant you keep coming back to. Pics of her fit bod, taking about her huge tits, etc. Does she have any other traits you find deserving of your affection?
>>591926851 >Nah I think that would just kill the relationship. It's dead allready. If you feel this way, no matter if it has a basis in reality, it's time to end it. But reading the story, you do have a good reason to feel that way. End the relationship before you mess yourself up even more.
>>591927749 Whelp, good luck op. I guess some people just need a real life experience before they actually understand what's really going on around them. When she does break your heart, /r9k/ is ><>>>>><<<<that way, because I don't want to FUCKIJG see you're pathetic ass here again.
>>591914501 lol... fucking troll thread confirmed. either that or you're the hugest shithead ever. nobody who wasn't manipulated like goddamn crazy would ever believe that shit. congratulations. you're a dumbass.
I second this, but we all know some faggot will get the number and he will either ruin it, start early or make the woman kill herself, with the last being some form of entertainment on here. Either way, it isn't worth giving because of that one faggot who will ruin it all.
What ive gathered from this thread >OP >26 >career prospects and money >has pulled a "10/10" >is trying really hard to keep a girl who makes him feel like shit move on broski, sounds like you will be just fine after a month or two
>>591929159 Okay, good. Cuz if it were just for looks, I'd say drop her.
However, I can honestly say I've been in a similar situation. Not some jackass from Italy, but my best friend in high school. I could tell my gf had a thing for him, they worked in the same place, had many of the same classes, Etc.
This shit went on all through high school.
Weirdly enough, we all ended up at the same college.
She eventually confirmed she had feelings for him, said they had been "talking" about "what if" they were in a relationship. Fuck that shit.
We broke up, I told her to try it out with him (even thought was so jealous I almost had panic attacks when I saw them together).
Two weeks later, I met a girl from Texas who looked quite similar to my ex, but we got a long way better.
I eventually broke up with the new chick, but i finally saw through my ex, even though I loved her a lot. I saw that she wasn't loyal, and even though she claimed to love me, she didn't really mean it.
TL;DR Take a break. Maybe don't break up, but you should find some friends to hang with, ladies, and see if your feelings change.
OP she was experimenting with getting attention and being attractive to other guys. She probably got it out of her system and since she acknowledged and appologized for it it's time to move forward and not dwell on it.
At this point it's time to act like a man and not a chump and act like you own that pussy. If she acts up again, you throw her apology out the door along with all her shit.
>>591929458 >Very smart >Not realising what flirting is >OP being manipulated because she knows he's not as smart >Ask for another guy to comfort her >Not seeing all the red flags >Will take her back when she fucks other guys and apologizes
I've been in a recent similar position to you. no real major concerns but enough small things to make you question the relationship. regardless of whether she has or hasn't cheated on you, she's clearly expressed some personality traits that seem to clash with yours. Leaving her will be the best decision you have ever made, and you may only realise this after the grieving process but i can guarantee you theres a light at the end of the road. Im still in the process of completely moving on.. it takes time and there will be moments when it gets really hard but you need to be a man, stick by your feelings and push through. If its meant to be, it will be and time will show you that. For now though.. your trying to justify her when you should because your blinded by the "love" you share.. don't make the mistake i did by going back either.. it just drags the process on longer than it should be.
>>591931083 then why can he see what's happening and you can't?
You want to know how to get over jealousy? You stop putting yourself in situations where you expose yourself to vulnerability. Your girl making you feel like shit. Shrug her off and do something that makes you feel more in control.
>>591911593 Dude, I been there. Me, my girl, and I went to the zoo. We were walking, and it was like they were the couple. That's what it was. When I went to work the next day, they were fucking behind my back. I only found out a year later after I caught her fucking another guy and this "friend" said, "Oh yeah, she's a whore. She even fucked me man." What the fuck?
Get out of there man. Just get out. Give any of your guns to a close friend where you can't access them. I almost killed the last "friend" with my rifle. The only thing saved me from homicide was me forgetting to flip the safety off. I swear man, everything was black except my sights and that fuckers head. I wanted a red mist and I nearly got it.
>>591931675 Hey I didn't say I was wise. Just wiser than her.
>>591931542 >You stop putting yourself in situations where you expose yourself to vulnerability. Your girl making you feel like shit. Shrug her off and do something that makes you feel more in control.
I have found that getting back into making music makes me feel better. Like it helps with the lowered self-worth this shit it making me feel.
>>591911593 >>I hate Mensa - it's full of insecure people who only care about their smartness number. Also like 90% dudes. >>She has the greatest time apparently. But doesn't contact me very much during it. >>First contact I have in a week is seeing an album of photos she posts on facebook of her having fun with a whole lot of the european guys
never heard of a mensa train before. hmmm... learn something new every day, eh fellas.
but yeah, she's on the hunt if she hasn't actively had 20 other dicks in her. you should start looking too, because it's over. she already has it in her head that she can do better than you - smarter, taller, more drinky... etc.
>>591932742 Oh no nothing like that, she wanted me to help pay for the abortion - which I made the other man agree to do sort right before I punched him.
funny you should ask! She married her boss, whom she was fucking and she got fat and had a very ugly baby with him. Also her mother died from brain cancer so there is a chance she might too. Ended well I think.
OK it's OP and I left something out. Her relationship before me, she cheated the dude with someone we both now know.
It still makes me really jealous when they have anything to do with each other.
She recently voted him into a position that will see her working with him in a uni society she runs.
Makes me real mad.
I rationalise it that she was desperately unhappy in her relationship, and in her mind was already broken up.
She had already tried to break up with him but he didn't ...let her? somehow. So she went out and had sex with this guy.
She was still 'in a relationship' with the ex when she got drunk and came on to me at a party too. She wanted to have sex with me but I told her I wouldn't while she was still in a relationship (I kinda was too).
>>591911593 OP if you truely wanna test to see if she really wants you just bring up that you think you two should see other people and don't fight about it, Make sure you do it without fighting about it. That might put her in the place you want her to be in if she really wants to be with you bro
>>591932250 Oh no. The murder was premeditated. If not a gun, I would have gotten a knife. But I didn't think of it. There was only two things rolling through my head. Grab the gun and shoot him and her. Rage is a powerful emotion man. Adrenaline was coursing through my veins.
But i will say it is easier to kill with a gun than a knife. Pull trigger, dead. Its too easy.
>>591927749 >What reason do I have to tell her to stop other than 'I don't like it because I'm insecure'? >Like if I have a problem, it's because I'm insecure no? >So maybe I should just pretend not to care?
All humans are insecure. Something making you unhappy or uncomfortable due to insecurity is valid, dude. She doesn't have to agree with that but she does need to fucking respect it.
Like, if someone is insecure about something, no matter what the fuck it is, you don't fucking push at that insecurity.
if your girlfriend is kinda chubby, and is insecure about it, you don't make comments about her weight in a disrespectful way, even if it's true. because that's faggot shit.
>>591933086 Ahahaha. Although I don't wish anything bad for my ex's mother. I wish it on her father though. What an ass. I will tell you that I threw away her birth control pills and poked a hole in all of my condoms I had. Left them there too. I hope the cunt gets pregnant for that retard.
>>591934254 nah I'm still here. I do need to leave soon though. I'm getting lot's of good ideas. And I'm not just ignoring the 'leave her' responses. I just need to give something else a shot first. I've had a lot of good times with this girl.
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