Yeah they gave me electro shock therapy but it didn't do any good, hehe.
>>590977431 >bullshit they don't strap people to beds anymore
Yes they do. I took copious amounts of drugs and flooded my apartment. 9 police officers crowbared my door open, I was in such a rage that I beat them all down and they had to pepperspray me twice and handcuff me. The mental ward people had to strap me to a bed since I was hulking out hehe.
>>590977200 You didn't get strapped into a bed for three months. I was in a mental hospital twice for a week each time. They only allow you to stay for 31 days, after that they send you to an assisted living home (Different than the elderly one) or just let you go. They also can't strap you down to a bed for an extended period of time, if at all. They put you in a wheel chair with a hood over your head until they administer a sedative shot. After that they let you chill in a "quiet room" until your episode is over. Even if they did keep you for that long they would try different medications on you until they found one that works. If all else fails they put you on a daily dose of sedative pills until they figure something out. >tl;dr op is a liar
>>590978367 >They can't force you to do ECT so you must have consented to it
Yes probably. I have no memories of talking to staff about *anything* and yet they all told me that I'd been very talkative. I was in my own world. Most of the time I didn't even see the hospital room; I saw another world entirely.
>>590978241 >Were you on angel dust or something? Sometimes I imagine taking some of that and going apeshit on people I hate.
Bingo. PCP/angel dust. It made me more dangerous than I've ever been before. You hear tales of people who take several bullets to go down when they're on PCP...
>>590978241 >how has it changed your life for the better OP?
I used to be mild-mannered. Having gone through this process has uninhibited me. I am now fearless about everything in life.
I also went to a strange metaphysical realm while I was sedated for weeks at a time. I met beings there and think it's extremely likely that all humans are immortal spirits, merely forgetting our true selves when we incarnate. It means that I am not afraid of death either.
>>590978271 Confirmed for a faggot that thinks drugs gives you inhuman strength to take down 9 cops with tasers and pepperspray.
Implying a disconnection from your thoughts and conscious reasoning overrules basic human function and bodily limits. You could get doped up all you want and you're still not going to lift a car faggot.
>>590978824 >You didn't get strapped into a bed for three months. They only allow you to stay for 31 days, after that they send you to an assisted living home (Different than the elderly one) or just let you go.
Correct. I was allowed home, took more PCP, and went right back in again. The 2nd time I went in voluntarily and choked the taxi driver... not my proudest moment, heh.
>>590978824 >They also can't strap you down to a bed for an extended period of time, if at all. They put you in a wheel chair with a hood over your head until they administer a sedative shot. After that they let you chill in a "quiet room" until your episode is over.
I didn't get any shots.
>>590978824 >Even if they did keep you for that long they would try different medications on you until they found one that works.
Yeah, they tried like 4 medications and all failed. Finally Clozapine worked.
>>590979391 Shit man, they are against UN treaties, UK has only a few years left to faze out the ones they do have, they are illegal now. You cannot hold a non criminal offender against their will, it's unlawful imprisonment
>>590979279 They were not doing their job and put everybody in your unit in danger. While psych ward nurses are usually incompetent, the doctors are in for at least 4 hours a day and take that shit very seriously. If there is an incident in a unit every person on the staff is reprimanded. The hospitals are also very afraid of lawsuits from the patients family because they could lose funding or get shut down completely. >Medication >Like 4 types of medication Also lying. If they don't see a noticeable change in 3-4 days they change it. If you keep having violent episodes they administer shots or put you on sedative pills. To say you were not on any sedatives says that you are lying.
>>590979610 PCP doesn't give you the power to take down 9 guys. And it isn't the pain from tasers that stops you, it's the surge of electricity to your muscles that causes them to spasm. You start taking a swing at any cop and you'll have enough tasers shot in your ass to have you struggling to blink.
>>590979995 >To say you were not on any sedatives says that you are lying.
Oh yeah, I misread you. They *did* put me on sedatives and I was asleep for about 2 weeks straight (perhaps I woke up a few times, I don't know). When I came out of the sedation, my muscles were so weak that I couldn't stand up. Took several days before I could walk again without assistance.
As for the Clozapine medication, I am not happy about it since it's a dangerous brand, but there's only a few months left before I don't have to take it anymore...
>>590979943 >Damn, how did you get into doing PCP anyway?
The same way most people do: I wanted to break free. Drugs are awesome. But the lasting personality changes are here now and I don't need any drugs anymore. That is why I say all of this was a positive change in my life. It has made me tougher.
>>590978018 Wrong. See Hartford Institute of Living in Hartford, Connecticut (Donnely building), one of the best hospitals in the country. Also google your state and look for psych hospitals. To see what one you'd go to, look for catchment areas for your county. >>590980620 >Asleep for about 2 weeks straight That's not what sedatives do. They can't keep you completely out like that anyway, they would have no way to monitor your progress on the medication. >>590980765 72 hours is the minimum for suicide. If you checked in voluntarily it's sort of easier to get out. If you were brought there by ambulance or involuntarily they can keep you until they think you're good enough to go. Unless you call a lawyer and petition for release which could take between 3 and 7 days. Hospitals can restrict your phone use though which should be illegal because that means you can't call a lawyer.
>>590980922 I was into drugs myself at a time, the wildest thing I ever took was MDMA and I tried some oxynorms once. I just heard all these crazy stories with PCP which is why I don't understand why anyone would even consider it.
How long has it been since you have been released? Do you take anything beside medication today?
>>590981098 >>Asleep for about 2 weeks straight >That's not what sedatives do. They can't keep you completely out like that anyway, they would have no way to monitor your progress on the medication.
I think there was a spiritual aspect to my sedation. I basically saw entirely different worlds, as I lay there strapped down and totally sedated. But I also saw the hospital room a few times. I am not the right person to ask about the technical details of what happened to me.
All I know is this: It was incredible. What I saw in those other worlds has changed everything for me.
Think about it: We are all alive in a Universe which inevitably came from NOTHING. The greatest miracle of all time has already happened.
Scientists say "give us one miracle: everything from nothing. but all other miracles are forbidden."
Well, fuck such scientists. We have no clue where our souls come from.
Random sperm creates a vessel, but the soul that inhabits the vessel seems to come from elsewhere.
Read the research by Pim van Lommel; a dutch scientist who worked with 9 hospitals to monitor people's near-death experiences. He discovered that people visit other worlds while their brains are completely shut down and have zero electrical activity.
So the whole ordeal made me tougher as a person; made me fearless; and made me unafraid of death.
That is why I wouldn't change anything that has happened. It was an awesome experience.
>>590981172 Clozapine went off the market because it was ineffective and killed off white blood cells. It was then redesigned. The fact that it originally had side effects doesn't distinguish its strength and worth. A flu shot could kill you. Clozapine has not and never will be a "last resort" unless your mental institution is based in Ethiopia where they can't afford basic antipsychotics. Being a runty teen who got prescribed clozapine for your mood swings doesn't mean you were strapped to a bed in a mental institution for 3 months.
>>590981769 You are all thinking of mental asylums, which they don't have anymore. But mental hospitals are still alive and well. Even if you are voluntary doesn't mean they won't change your status to involuntary.
>>590982001 Are you sure you weren't on acid? I had a trip where I saw a world inside of me, it was pretty cool. Still want to try acid again and check in on it. Also found myself among the stars as a celestial being at the same time, awesome shit. When I was in there was an indian guy who was convinced he was a hindu warrior god, I forgot which one it was. He tried attacking an old lady because he thought she was the illuminati and had to kill her. But either way, try to think back clearly and figure out what happened. Maybe once you're off the medication you'll be able to figure it out more. I'm not trying to be a dick but what you were saying about being out for two weeks and strapped to a bed for that wrong could not have happened. Talk to your doctor about it because it may have affected your perception or memory which could be long-lasting and serious.
>>590981597 >I was into drugs myself at a time, the wildest thing I ever took was MDMA and I tried some oxynorms once. I just heard all these crazy stories with PCP which is why I don't understand why anyone would even consider it.
I was curious and willing to take the consequences of PCP. I wanted something that would scramble me a bit, and it certainly did. I think PCP is something most people don't return to. I won't touch anything but weed anymore.
>How long has it been since you have been released?
I was brought to the ward in late October and was let go on Dec 18th, with an arrangement where I had to check in with doctors every 2nd day to make sure I take the medication. That's actually pretty humiliating, but it was part of the terms for being allowed to leave, and it's better than being stuck in a hospital room.
>Do you take anything beside medication today?
Nah just Clozapine, and I'm messing with the dosage, taking about half what they recommend. I am not mentally ill. It was the PCP that made me hulk out. So I am doing my best to avoid any Clozapine-related damage, by lowering the dose. I look forward to March when this is all over.
That's when I'll have all the pros of what has happened, and no more cons. They have no right to force me to take medication beyond March 11th.
>>590980017 I don't know anon, I had a friend who flipped shit after snorting some coke that was laced with pcp, cops tazed him twice and he didn't flinch he ended up sending two of them to the hospital before getting piled by a bunch of chubby cops
>>590982324 Well more muscular mass would mean that the electric shock get spread around the body, taze a 60 kg skinny man and he is going to macarena all over the place because his small muscle will tense like crazy, but a big guy with a lot of muscle will have i think less spasm and muscle contraction than a little guy, i thinks it's pretty logical, maybe i'm full of shit
>>590977200 As someone who has had to strap people to beds, I assure you, we do not want to do it. You make us do it. You get strapped down because you are freeking the fuck out and are being violent twoards yourself or others. Do you comprehend the amount of paperwork that has to be done to justify seclusion,let alone restraints? Then, everything that we document is reviewed by the Joint Commission. It s a fucking nightmare. Personally I don't give a shit about you, you are scum, you deserve everything that has ever happened and will happen to you. MY people, the people who are paid to deal with you, I care about, and they put shit like you in there because you cant control your self so we have to do it for you. Your life is so hard, and you wont ever do anything to make it better, take your Ativan like a good little meat puppet, and continue to shit post on a veit kong cartoon image board.
BrB gonna lean over and check the camera for the seclusion room and laugh.
>>590982953 Yeah, but when you have 9 cops storming your apartment, it means you're obviously seen as somebody that needs more than 2 or 3 to deal with. And the moment you start getting aggressive you're going to have 9 cops dogpiling on you before you can do anything. Like that fat black dude that died after the choke hold.
All hypothetical though, considering how none of this actually happened to OP.
>>590981905 I think you misunderstood me, tasers work by causing involuntary muscle spasms via electric shock, key word being involuntary. It is not physically possible to resist a taser as the electric shock it produces overrides the signals coming from your nervous system in favor of uncontrollable muscle spasms.
>>590983256 I was with you up until the third paragraph. You have no business working in a hospital with that attitude. You do more harm to the patients than good, which puts the staff in danger. Get your shit together or find another job, anon. >>590983525 They don't put you in a room with lawyers. They put you in a room with your assigned doctor and possibly social worker if she's around and let you know what's up.
>>590983335 The head of the psychiatric unit wouldn't say "last resort" to a patient either. You have no idea how the medical field works, do you? If your doctor's calling out last resorts and giving you shit like Clozapine for it, then you need to watch more Grey's Anatomy and learn what the fuck you're talking about you angsty weaboo.
>>590982800 Sounds good, as long you can handle it. I'm not sure what my opinion on your newfound spirituality it sounds a bit farfetched for my taste, but as long you're not suffering from a psychosis or being delusional it's fine. Also good to hear you're off the drugs, I hope you will get out and be a functional citizen to march.
>>590983713 You did never see those guy that get voluntarily tazed to see if they resist and actually some resist the shock and stand still then walk away normaly ? What you say is what happen in most cases but i think that there are somes exception, some guys to whom the shock dont directly affect their nervous system.
Absolutely! My memory is strange, as I said earlier:
>>590978940 >Yes probably. I have no memories of talking to staff about *anything* and yet they all told me that I'd been very talkative. I was in my own world. Most of the time I didn't even see the hospital room; I saw another world entirely.
As for acid... nope, I did take DMT with the PCP. But both LSD and DMT are known for taking you to other spirit realms.
One day, I woke up and felt my face being ripped by electrical storms, and then I left my body. I tried to say "holy shit" but had no mouth anymore. I started flying towards a perfectly round, white circle. It felt like I was moving through a tunnel. The circle was the most perfect shape I have ever seen. It looked like someone had taken a scissor and cut a round hole in the room around me.
It started as a pinhole and I moved closer to the tunnel until it covered 60% of my vision.
I was then gripped with fear that I would die if I passed over, so I decided to return.
With that, I snapped backwards like a rubber band, and everything went black (as my physical eyes were closed). I tried to move, but couldn't.
Ten seconds later, I was able to move again... so I opened my eyes and said what I'd wanted to say earlier: Holy Shit.
>>590984566 It was a fad where teenagers would go into a store, take two jugs or milk or juice, and throw it everywhere and pretend to slip. Their friend would record it and put it online because teenagers thought it was funny.
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