Hey /b/ thinkin about trying shrooms for the first time. Only things I've had experience with is Coedine, Xanax, and dabs. How much would they run me as far as price, and what could you expect? Also Drug general. No weed.
Gonna post this in your thread instead of making a new one as sort of a drug general
Wtf am I even suppose to feel? Everytime I take a bunch of them I just feel really chill, like I just want to sleep but I can't really sleep so I just kinda exist for a while without wanting to do anything exciting but I'm okay with it.
Everything I read on erowid about dph sounds like some made up bullshit cause they tell stories of some 3 hour salvia trip type of shit.
>>590377910 Typically an 8th (how much it takes to trip) will run you $35-40. Be ready to laugh a lot and have a great time. Plan everything out well in advance (setting, who you're doing them with, etc.) so you don't have to worry about anything while you're tripping and you can just enjoy the ride. Don't fight it, and remember you took a drug to have fun, and god damn it you're gonna have fun. I've heard that the vitamin C in orange juice potentiates the trip but I have zero actual evidence to support this. I do know, however, that orange juice makes the shrooms go down much more easily.
>>590382777 I had a friend who did a bunch of those, and she said they did something but it was so long ago that I don't remember how many she took or what the effects were. What made you wanna try them? Erowid?
>>590382777 nice trips. I've taken up to 600 mg of dph before. that stuff had me talking to nobody and hearing shit that wasn't there. I'm 180 lbs. if you're around my weight, 250 mg will get you feeling out of it. 400 - 500 mg will make you feel like you have 30 lb sandbags tied to each of your limbs, you'll also likely start to trip out and hear shit and maybe see shit. 600 - 1000 mg will probably make you so loopy you won't remember most of your night. you'll either pass out or trip really hard.
the scary thing about dph trips is that you can't discern reality from hallucination. So you can be talking to your dad and fully believe you're having a conversation with him, then you reach out to touch him and he's gone. good luck friend.
>>590382777 I've had similar results with dph, only with pretty vivid visuals. The high was pretty much exactly how you described, though, just kind of "existing." I've tripped off it a few times, and each time was by accident. I wanted to sleep and ended up eating a whole box of them. Every time I didn't fall asleep and just sat up in my bed pissed the fuck off with permanent cotton mouth and weird patterns floating about everywhere.
>>590383828 I remember McKenna saying mdma destroys parts of neurons in your brain or some shit that scientists think are kinda useless cuz they don't know what they do yet. Not a soberfag, but I'd like to see more tests done on this kinda stuff
>>590384866 >stay hydrated (but don't exaggerate, 500ml per hour or something like that is fine) >avoid overheating (take breaks if you are dancing) >test your shit (very important) >weight your shit (also very important) >have gum in your mouth Enjoy it man.
Take 2.5-3.5 depending on the quality of the shrooms for a first trip. I can buy shrooms for $5 a gram off a trusted dealer but off anyone else it's usually $10 in my experience.
All I can say is be 100% comfortable with where you are when you take them and who you're with when you take them. Don't take them before having to do anything important because you'll focus on that. Don't take them in an uncontrolled environment where the situation could change or people could suddenly come in. I thought people who talked about "vibes" were hippy burnouts before taking shrooms, but after taking it once, you really will understand what someone means if they say "Good/Bad vibes". Just be in a chill place, with chill people and be prepared to laugh a lot and have a great time going with the flow.
I once had a friend tell me the following about drugs: "Acid is like getting in the drivers seat of a car, shrooms is like sitting in the backseat and going for a ride, and salvia is like getting tied up and thrown in the drunk." Just get ready for a ride and go with the flow.
>DMT (My fave <3) >Shrooms (Too scary for some reason even though I love DMT. Can't seem to figure out why) >Every (prescription) benzodiazepine in existence, including some of the harder to find ones like triazolam and brotizolam. They're OK but I had to go through withdrawals once, and even with a valium taper it SUCKED so I don't abuse them anymore. I say prescription because I’m aware of the various RC benzos in existence, but I generally stay clear of those. >Z-drugs (Take them anally [especially Zolpidem tartrate ‘cuz of its high water solubility] and they become hallucinogenic. That’s right, butt drugs. I'm not kidding. Ask me if you want to know more; it’s probably my second favorite next to DMT.) >Alcohol (Stomach’s too sensitive for it to be of any value.) >Nitrous (Too short acting to be of any value) >Ketamine (Made me feel too numb and paralyzed, didn't like it…although I’m assuming that’s the point of an anesthetic; maybe I used too much my first time) >Chloroform (Felt like a dirty combination of nitrous and a benzo. I have some in-depth instructions based upon my experiences with it on how to make it, maximize yields, and minimize liver damage. If you want it I’ll post it) >Clonidine (Why can’t I stand up-Zzzzzzz) >Gabapentin (Didn’t do much, but stops twitching during benzo w/ds) >Diphenhydramine (Evil) >Jimson Weed (Really, really evil, but the plants are actually decorative, so I keep them growing around)
Never smoked weed, nicotine, or used any opiates aside from when I was 12 and had my appendix out. Also, as a rule, anything organic I won’t consume unless I know EXACTLY how and where it was produced. For example, the mushies I grew myself, and the DMT I extracted myself from MHRB.
I was at a festival over the summer and a dude handed me a bowl. Halfway through my rip he mentioned it had opium in it. I asked him if he had any he could sell me afterward and he said no. It's probably for the best. I really loved that little taste, even if I barely got any.
>>590386330 Fuck it, here's the Chloroform workup. (I'll post the hepatotoxicity prevention part as an addendum)
React 500ml of standard 8% household bleach (Sodium Hypochlorite) with 10ml of Acetone. I'd recommend a quick trip to the hardware store to get pure acetone, but if you live with a whore, you probably already have some nailpolish remover with it. Just use a few more mL since it has impurities. (What we’re doing here is called the ‘Haloform Reaction’, one of the first true organic syntheses. It was developed by Eugène Soubeiran and Samuel Guthrie independently in 1831).
Add the acetone to the bleach SLOWLY, and keep the reaction vessel submerged in an ice water bath. The solution will heat up alot, so use lots of stirring as you add the acetone or the CHCl3 will instantly vaporize off. After about a minute you’ll see a dense white precipitate form, but it’ll take a few hours to coalesce, so leave it alone. I found it takes a minimum of 6 hours to coalesce everything. Also, do it in a dark room to prevent the formation of phosgene (a WWI chemical weapon).
After the reaction is complete, you'll see a blob of a dense fluid at the bottom of the reaction vessel. That's your chloroform. Decant off the upper solution (it's garbage), but keep the CHCl3 (the lower layer). Store it in a dark glass container and add a few drops of ethanol to prevent the formation of phosgene (dying isn't fun).
To use: -Place a few drops on a rag -Inhale -Have fun stumbling around
>>590385189 everything this guy said is true and what i would have said too. Definitely go with the flow and dont fight what you're feeling in your gut while youre tripping - if you feel weirded out by a place or something move outside or to a different location. every place really has its own vibes
>>590386593 So, here's the harm reduction: CHCl3 is metabolized successively via Cytochrome P450 into Chloral Hydrate or Trichloromethanol (depending on which isozyme it hits). Needless to say you'll feel quite sleepy for a few hours afterward.
Now, unless, your CHCl3 is totally anhydrous, any phosgene will instantly react with water to form HCl, but it should still be handled with care*.
I still recommend you take a biological step to ensure that phosgene is dealt with: Go to a vitamin store and buy something called "N-Acetyl Cysteine", and take a few capsules prior to chloroforming yourself. This helps your liver replenish glutathione which can conjugate any phosgene that may be present, and some anecdotal sources say trace amounts are produced through metabolism. More info: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6143425
*Like I said: -DARK GLASS BOTTLE -FEW DROPS OF ETHYL ALCOHOL
>>590383782 >What made you wanna try them? Nothing really, found out I had a food allergy and had a bunch of them left over and tried them. I had tried DXM a bunch of times previously and was expecting something similar but it wasn't, at least with the dosage I took. >>590383931 Yea I'm 170lbs. I'll probably try 300mg again.
>>590385189 >I thought people who talked about "vibes" were hippy burnouts before taking shrooms, but after taking it once, you really will understand what someone means if they say "Good/Bad vibes" Before I read Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas I thought they were just a useful expression, I can't wait to see for myself
>>590382777 The exact inverse happens with me. I get incredibly agitated and go into pseudoparkonsinism, complete with shaking and akathisia (which is weird because DPH is usually used to treat those). Anyhow, I've never entered a true delirium, but I have heard voices while on it, and music sounded a semitone lower. Definitely not a placebo.
>>590386330 A friend of mine said DMT made it feel like her brain was dipped in battery acid. I kind of assumed she did it wrong On a different note, is it true that DMT doesn't affect your mind while you're tripping, as in who you are before liftoff is the same as who you are when you break through?
Has anyone ever had success with nutmeg I swear some of these shit is bullshit. I ordered whole nutmegs over amazon, grinded 3 up into powder, swallowed a plateful of that shit, hoping to enter delirium and hear music while I did stuff from brain scramble or liver toxicity or however the fuck that shit even is suppose to work.
All I had was a boring evening and regretting that awful taste. Like.. 3 nutmegs grinded is at least like 100 spoonfuls.
>>590386330 >that’s right, butt drugs. I'm not kidding. Ask me if you want to know more >I have some in-depth instructions based upon my experiences with it on how to make it, maximize yields, and minimize liver damage. If you want it I’ll post it requesting info on both of these
>>590382874 uwotm8 >>590381969 1-1.5g dried depending on weight and metabolism/age from the sound of OP though you're either an older gentleman or a rich kid, in either case, mushrooms should teach you that painkillers are for losers
>>590389051 Going by my limited experience I've found it just makes me feel really fucking good. So if you need to justify your drug use by saying it's purely for "introspection" or "learning maaaaan" than it's not something you'd be into.
>>590383931 yeah shit's fucked up, same thing happened to me. i thought i saw a dude kneeling over my bed praying, thought a 50s looking woman was standing in my closet with a gun, thought i heard malcolm x on a megaphone outside my house, shit was not fun. the worst was when i picked up my phone and the swipe pattern didn't work and i just thought what the fuck, tried it a few times then pressed my thumb down through it and the phone disappeared
>>590388808 Well, I already posted the chloroform thing.
As for the buhtt drugs, I was referring to taking an Ambien tablet, crushing it and dissolving it in ~5ml of water, and administering it rectally via a needle-less syringe. The effects come on FAST - within 60 seconds, and the bioavailability is markedly increased - 5mg rectal = 10mg oral. Also, this seems to maximize the mild dissociative qualities of Zolpidem, making for a fun night of stumbling around before passing out.
>>590390979 >i thought i saw a dude kneeling over my bed praying, thought a 50s looking woman was standing in my closet with a gun please no. I just took 300mg with a bottle of red wine and 8oz salmon.
>>590389051 Opium poppies are totally legal to grow (hell, on Memorial Day, they plant a shitload of them outside Washington DC). I planted a few in my garden (beside the Daturas, just for kicks), and nobody said anything.
Depending on the strain you can have more of a body high or a hallucinogenic trip. Kind of hard to describe a trip since most of them are fairly different. Colors are awesome, you'll probably start busting out laughing at some point, and you'll do a lot of introspective thinking.
They last quiet a long ass time. I've had trips last around 8 hours, but the comedown is nice and easy and you usually feel refreshed afterwards. The best trip I've had was at a beach with friends.
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