I am serious when I ask where, and how does patriarchy, and misogyny actually exist?
If a person is a misogynist, does this mean the person hates all women all the time? I can't think of one person who hates all women all the time. Patriarchy implies that men intentionally acted sole'y for purpose of themselves as a gender of males to keep women out of power, and again I'm unable agree that such is the case since it is religions that were the route causes of such control.
If feminists claimed to promote equality by disregarding men this means the exact opposite. People strive to be a better person for themselves, not exclusively against an entire gender or race. Can anyone name a person so absolutely defined as misogynist, or participating in patriarchy? These words have no real meaning and operate on a false premise of institutionalization's that do not exist when examined closely.
>>585754556 Again, that means patriarchy just a conviently labelled way of suggesting a force of control that is the result of moral or social structured guidance. The people defining morals, that's the problem.
Sure, there are actual documented cases of a men who actually HATE all things female, not to the point of having sex with men, but viewing females as absolutely inferior and without purpose other than fucking and procreation.
Now, in today's society, that is glaringly apparent in a little of barbarous middle eastern nations and not only Islam but with the Jews.
As far as "hidden" or "subtle"? Yeah, it happens, though not to the degree many feminists say it does. I took an ex-GF out to pick up a moped second hand for her to get around the city. Guy she bought it from kept on talking to me about its maintenance. I would stop him and say "Don't tell me, Chief, she's the one buying it and who will be working on it". Hell, she was the only girl in a family with with lots of brothers and all of them total gearheads. After about 5 minutes she turned to the guy, looked at his car ('78 Catalina that was in perfect shape) and told him everything about the car, years it was made, types of engines, all that "My Cousin Vinny" shit. Guy she bought the moped from straight up apologized to her and from that point on the two got along famously. But that's a prime example of sexism. He immediately assumed I would be the one servicing this thing and that she wouldn't know shit about the moped. Now, that assumption is based upon a fact, which is that MOST women don't know SHIT about vehicles, sure. But it's a subtle type of sexism.
Women in the marines? That's just fucking stupid, and that shit that feminists push for is retarded. I say fine, let 'em, but don't make men rely on them. And I say LET the bitches in the NFL or NHL, see how long they last getting sacked by a 400lb lineman, or hipchecked to the boards.
>>585756409 Well, by moral control this means society has decided how people should present themselves, which means the women who patisipate in a sense themselves reinforcing it on themselves. This means it is moral guidance being used and accepted by all, not patriachy.
Let's use an example, OP: There are literally millions of people worldwide who are thouroughly convinced that the Earth is hollow and that intelligent beings live in the center of the earth, even though it's been scientifically proven that the Earth's core is a molten hell.
Still, no amount of scientific evidence will convince these Hollow Earthers that what they believe simply doesn't exist.
Same thing with Feminists. No amount of social science evidence presented to them will ever convince them that what they believe is essentially bullshit since, to them, it forms the foundational core of their sense of self.
>This is why I don't argue with feminists.
>This is also why I don't date or argue with anyone crazier than me.
But here's some quality: Rape of the Sabines. The legend of the birth of Rome talks about the men of Rome, who were comprised of runaway slaves, criminals and those not worthy enough being a citizen of other nations stealing their women through treachery. Why did they stay with those betas? Equal property rights, security, and most importantly: to raise free children. A Ronan's family was traced not back to the degenerates that founded the city, but to these selfless women who inspired greatness in their sons.
Most women today understand that people, regardless of what they look like or where they come from, are responsible for their actions.
I'm all for women grasping their matriarchal values, but I still have to defend my own interests.
How many of you remember that old video of that German kid going off the deep end screaming and yelling and throwing a huge shit fit because his computer wasn't doing what he wanted, and he ended up smashing his keyboard?
>That's what modern radical feminism reminds me of.
>>585761378 The people who waste their whole fucking lives talking about patriarchy and misogyny all define the word a certain way. It's better off going with that than you, a /b/tard who can't even spell.
so far this is what i know about the difference between a feminist and a a person fighting for equality. They both fight for gender equality but if the male side is being oppressed feminists would do nothing.
>>585761580 the worst part is, they're still doing it wrong. they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. That shit is difficult as fuck to define accurately and you expect me to believe that some tumblr SJW or god forbid a women's studies major was smart enough to figure it out?
If that's what you believe feminism is then allow me to enlighten you.
Basically, there's two factions: Equal Rights Activists and Feminists.
The ERAs are essentially emotionally, mentally healthy women who are socially well adjusted who see the need for certain things to change for the benefit of everyone, not just themselves.
Feminists, on the other hand, generally tend to be socially mal-adjusted individuals who are burdened by a warehouse full of personal issues, social, psychological and emotional problems who think that the world would be a better place if they ran the world and all men were subjugated and reduced to eunichs.
>>585761939 Its shit like this that proves the modern day feminist leaders are money grubbing mysongonist that gain thousands of blind followers They don't wanna be equal to men they want to be better just look at Anita and her elk
Having lived a long time, already, and having had a lot of experience I have to disagree since I've met men who were lying bastards and women who wouldn't lie for any reason. The inverse is true as well. It's not a gender based thing, it's HUMAN NATURE!
Its funny because of all the males on the planet, white males are the least misogynistic. Men have been enslaved by women since gender was created, billions of years ago. Feminism is just more proof of how selfish and greedy these cunts are.
Well, I still have to disagree that more women lie than men because, honestly, I don't know of any studies ever done which have either verified or disproved that idea.
Still, there's this that you said...
>Also, women can lie very effectively and convincingly to themselves.
On that I can agree on the basis that, over the millennia, women have developed various means and tactics through which they can control and manipulate men and gain power. Hence the high degree of development of that particular skill.
But almost exclusively women use tampons, unless you're sticking them up your nose to help with nosebleeds or something, in which case even then, "the menstrual cycle and cramps and mood swings" have nothing to do with your use of them.
>>585754228 I think sexism/misogyny/whatever exists on an individual basis, I think that the group of rich white guys controlling everything is somehow seen as representative of all guys.
I feel like making law gender-neutral is as far as we can go without introducing snowflake legislation like the VAWA, and I feel like it should be done because the VAWA and legislation like it is rather absurd.
>Women are just as capable as men when it comes to police duties >Women should be eligible for combat roles in the military >Women should get extra protection under the law because they're weak
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