LET'S PUT ALL THE BETA/ALPHA SHIT ASIDE FOR A SECOND. In

>>585510959

First of all, you have to remember that being an "Alpha" is sort of like being a gold medalist at the Special Olympics.

That being said, most women are "imprinted" by the type of man they'll be attracted to at an early age. Usually, this will be their father.

So, if their dad is a douche, that's the type of guy she'll be attracted to.

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>why do women not enjoy guys who are nice to them?

Women are used to every guy who they meet kissing their ass up and down simply because they have a vagina.

When a guy shows that he has no interest in her, aka treats her like shit. She thinks that something must be so special about the guy who ignored her because he didn't kiss her ass from moment one.

When you are nice to a woman you are just like the rest of the swinging dicks she crosses paths with, nothing special about that.

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>>585511577
I guess this makes a lot of sense. Some of the women from my past had either 0 father presence or a shitty one. Then they would end up lying or cheating.

This is actually a decent explanation.

>>585510959
Maybe girls just like honesty. I mean, being nice to a woman to have sex with her is not honest man. Plus sometimes you barely know her, how can you be so nice with her ? = Dishonest

>>585511577
this is faggotry

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>>585511695
I guess so. The mind game bullshit is enough to make you want to just stay single though. It has to be such a god damn struggle. It's retarded.

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>>585512301
No. It's my impression that girls DO NOT like honesty. In my past I've always been very honest about everything from the get go. I think it's best to just be honest and if there is something someone doesn't like then jsut move on right? Pretty simple.

But every woman I tried this with would be like "yeah thats great!" and then end up being a lying bitch.

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>this thread

>>585512588
You have a point. Maybe so i'ts a matter of standards ? Nice guy equals low standards and women like man with high standards

>>585513203
Eh, but I don't really have low standards. I also know some pretty chill, nice dudes who don't either.

Keep in mind I'm not just talking about getting pussy. I'm talking about actually getting with a girl who is worthy enough to meet parents and genuinely be with.

>>585512388
elaborate why faggot.

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>>585512388
explain

>>585513444
Trips have spoken

>>585510959
My boyfriend is a genuinely nice guy. I knew right away he was attracted to me, but I thought he was a huge goober and had no interest at first, but we started talking and he grew on me. I realized he had my best interest in mind and as we talked the annoying/goober bit fell away and I could see he was more my type and attractive. Now we've been together for a few months now and we're pretty happy. We laugh about how I used to think id never like him. And I can say he's the best guy I've ever been with.
Basically, if you like a girl just remember your polite boundaries. I'm the kind of girl who knows what I like, and I bet a lot of girls are the same. It might take some patience to get through that initial wall. But you have to also keep in mind that some people can never be attracted to some people. If you're yourself and don't get desperate you'll find someone someday. Desperate guys are terribly unattractive and all you'll find are desperate girls.

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>>585512588
nice dubs and trips
Don't we men work like this too ? Is'nt it boring to get all served on a silver plate ? Human beings like challenges that's all

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>>585513788
stop thinking everything you are comes from your parents. This oedipian shit is true until the age of 7 maximum. We move on after

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>>585514389
>stop thinking everything you are comes from your parents. This oedipian shit is true until the age of 7 maximum. We move on after

You're probably right.
OR
I could take the opinion of real Doctors who've done the research with hundreds of subjects and were actually published in their respective journals.

I guess it's a toss-up.

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>>585510959
Girls love nice guys. I'm super kind and polite and have never had a problem with women. But i'm also athletic, have real non video game hobbies, and am not a raging faggot.

If your idea of being a non cringey nice guy still involves telling her how beautiful she is 6 times per day, telling her you couldnt live without her daily, and asking 'for cuddles'. You are still doing it wrong.

I tell my girl I love her occasionally. She knows I care about her by my actions, not by my smothering behavior. You guys are well adjusted to laugh at cringe threads, yet you'll do the same things to a lesser extent and wonder what is wrong.

If you are at work or in class put the fucking phone away. You have shit to do. Sending a heart emoticon randomly during the workday is a great way to show you care, do it about once a month. Theres no better way to proclaim 'im beta and think only of you 24\7' than texting her hourly

>>585510959

Vegan Quo. I'll therefore I Zed at I.

>>585516207
Also, not having social media is alpha as fuck.

>>585516207
This anon knows what's up.

Be nice but make clear to them that you also like her body aswel as her spirit... Dont by shy...

>>585516207

All very nice but that doesn't work on the long run.

If she doesn't have anything better she might settle for the "nice guy" but as soon as greener grass shows about (bad boy) she'll drop the "we've grown apart..etc" and move on.

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>>585516471
OP Here, I don't have any social media because I can't stand it. Fucking retards on there.

>>585516207
This is also some genuine advice I think. I mean, I definitely know some dudes who need to pump the god damn brakes on shit like this. I think it's hard though if you haven't been told you are smothering someone before.

>>585510959
They prefer people with a little bit of excitement.

Plus being nice usually makes girls on edge thinking that you're after sex. Being a dick is the best way to coax the slut out of the girl.

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>>585513717

OP Here.

Also while we are on the subject.

When do you guys think it's appropriate to move on over chasing? I mean, say for example you are with a girl and shes on the fence about dating. Or you figure out there is someone else in the picture?

When is it good to just say fuck you nigger and when is it good to keep up the chase?

>>585510959
It's a fair question with a dense psychological answer. I am a serial monogamist but I have three close friends who are the polar opposite. They bring a new woman to hang out with us sometimes every other day and I talk to them about various subjects, including this. Because I am unlikely to see them again, I can be very blunt and I have gleaned the following information from these interviews:
>>Young women want a challenge, nice men are not challenging. They seem much more likely to sleep with a man if that man has fostered in them some kind of need, often for approval.
>>Being nice is often a ploy, even on an unconscious level and most women can see through this.
>>Nice is generally places the control over a situation on the woman. Most of the women I've met do not want that control, it actually feels imposing to them. Put simply, the whole stereotype of the woman saying "I don't care" when asked what restaurant she wants to go to. (you get the idea)
>>You are likely being more cringy than you realize. No one wakes up in the morning saying "How can I get cringes on 4chan?" All cringe-worthy betas think that they are different. They are not.
Women respond, not to being treated poorly, but being treated as equals. Being nice to it because it has a pussy won't get you anywhere. Be honest, disagree with them and don't go out of your way because that just imposes on them. In essence, don't try so hard.

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>>585510959
I was nice to a girl once. She's my gf now.

>mfw