https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681 Breaking News: Congress is passing a spy bill giving police unlimited access to communications
Congress has passed an Intelligence Authorization Bill that grants the executive branch and law enforcement warrantless access to the collected communications of every American. While similar powers have been asserted by executive order before, nothing on this level has ever been passed and for it to pass without so much as a debate is completely unjustifiable.
At the last moment representative Justin Amash found the true intent of the bill and was able to make a motion to reconsider. It is currently in congressional conference committee. The bill has not yet been sent to the president to sign, so we still barely have the ability to change the original vote.
Contact your representative immediately and let them know that the bill in its current form is completely unacceptable.
To find your representatives contact information enter your zip code here. http://www.opencongress.org/people/zipcodelookup
To see how your representitive originally voted look him up here. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll271.xml Contact him regardless, if he voted yes, explain what the bill includes and why it's unacceptable. If he voted no thank him and ask him to continue fighting the bill and ask if there is anything you can do to help.
These powers are hidden deep within a routine spending bill under the benign sounding section title. >(Sec. 309) Directs the heads of the DNI, JIDF, DIA, NSA, NRO, and NGA to ensure that there is a full financial audit of their respective entities each year and that each audit contains an unqualified opinion of the entity's financial statements. Requires the chief financial officer of each entity to provide an annual audit report to Congress.
Full text of the bill can be found here. https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681
[From The Hill] Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) wrote on Facebook that the intelligence authorization bill that easily passed through the House contained “one of the most egregious sections of law I've encountered during my time as a representative.”
“It grants the executive branch virtually unlimited access to the communications of every American,” explained Amash, who has a record of skepticism toward the National Security Agency and other agencies. Last year, he nearly succeeded in an attempt to end the NSA’s controversial phone records program.
The bill was originally set to be considered with just a simple voice vote, but Amash rushed to the House floor on Wednesday to demand a recorded vote. He also fired off a letter to his fellow lawmakers warning them not to back the bill.
Hidden in the law is “a troubling new provision that for the first time statutorily authorizes spying on U.S. citizens without legal process,” Amash told other lawmakers.
THAT PROVISION ALLOWS "THE ACQUISITION, RETENTION, AND DISSEMINATION" OF AMERICANS COMMUNICATIONS WITHOUT A COURT ORDER OR A SUBPOENA
That type of collection is currently allowed under an executive order that dates back to former President Reagan, but the new stamp of approval from Congress was troubling, Amash said. Limits on the government’s ability to retain information in the provision did not satisfy the Michigan Republican.
Despite Amash’s late attempt, the bill easily passed, 325-100.
The bill passed the Senate earlier this week and is now on its way to President Obama
Original facebook post from Congressman Amash: FB /repjustinamash/posts/812569822115759
The Hill article http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226752-gop-rep-attempted-late-bid-to-love-spy-bill
Original passage of said bill (prior to addition of the new amendment) http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/226573-senate-passes-intelligence-appropriations-bill
>>584405622 There's still hope moar shit like this won't go through. Also without Harry Reid unilaterally preventing any and every bill he doesn't like from going to a vote, (hence Obama has only vetoed 2 single bills in 6 years) Rand's common sense bills might actually get some traction.
>>584405622 call me retarded but Justin Amash's criticism of sec. 309 is a criticism of the following:
"(Sec. 309) Directs the heads of the DNI, CIA, DIA, NSA, NRO, and NGA to ensure that there is a full financial audit of their respective entities each year and that each audit contains an unqualified opinion of the entity's financial statements. Requires the chief financial officer of each entity to provide an annual audit report to Congress."
>>584414465 "(Sec. 329) Requires the DNI to submit to Congress a report describing: (1) how to improve the declassification process across the intelligence community; and (2) what steps the intelligence community can take, or what legislation may be necessary, to enable the National Declassification Center to better accomplish its mission."
>>584414731 Sec. 502) Requires the DNI to: (1) ensure that any contractor to an element of the intelligence community with access to classified information develops and operates a security plan that is consistent with DNI standards for intelligence community networks, (2) conduct periodic assessments of each such security plan, and (3) ensure that the insider threat detection capabilities and policies of the intelligence community apply to facilities of contractors with access to a classified network.
agraph (1) shall be-- (A) prepared in coordination with the Director of National Intelligence; and (B) approved by the Attorney General prior to issuance. (3) Procedures.-- (A) Application.--The procedures required by paragraph (1) shall apply to any intelligence collection activity not otherwise authorized by court order (including an order or certification issued by a court established under subsection (a) or (b) of section 103 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803)), subpoena, or similar legal process that is reasonably anticipated to result in the acquisition of a covered communication to or from a United States person and shall permit the acquisition, retention, and dissemination of covered communications subject to the limitation in subparagraph (B). (B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless-- (i) the communication has been affirmatively determined, in whole or in part, to constitute foreign intelligence or counterintelligence or is necessary to understand or assess foreign intelligence or counterintelligence;
>>584416916 >agraph (1) shall be-- >(A) prepared in coordination with the Director of National >Intelligence; and >(B) approved by the Attorney General prior to issuance. >(3) Procedures.-- >(A) Application.--The procedures required by paragraph (1) >shall apply to any intelligence collection activity not >otherwise authorized by court order (including an order or >certification issued by a court established under subsection >(a) or (b) of section 103 of the Foreign Intelligence >Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803)), subpoena, or >similar legal process that is reasonably anticipated to result >in the acquisition of a covered communication to or from a >United States person and shall permit the acquisition, >retention, and dissemination of covered communications subject >to the limitation in subparagraph (B). >(B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall >not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless-- >(i) the communication has been affirmatively >determined, in whole or in part, to constitute foreign >intelligence or counterintelligence or is necessary to >understand or assess foreign intelligence or >counterintelligence; yeah I just got to that.
(I) the reasons extended retention is necessary to protect the national security of the United States;
>>584418631 >this is very hard to read because its mostly orwellian blabber the truth is it takes a legal expert to really parse out the full ramifications. We can speculate as to how this sort of legislation looks in practice, but I'm not sure it's time to rise up in violent revolution against the state
>>584405622 sorry bruv im too legit 2 quit i got a mortgage n shit now too old for these games id sell you out to the illuminati inna second if you try this fuck the system bull shit get a job go places vote and change the system by learning it niggering out and getting violent wont do shit kick the fact straight up and focus on what needs to be done faggots like you are the problem
>>584418911 >the truth is it takes a legal expert to really parse out the full ramifications. We can speculate as to how this sort of legislation looks in practice, but I'm not sure it's time to rise up in violent revolution against the state
yeah i don't think its the time either..
we need more people to realize the size of the dick they are fucking us with
but at the same time i see only a handful of people noticing it...i wonder if the time will ever come before we are full police state with full censorship and no human rights
>>584405622 Seriously why even bother they will just keep doing it over and over we can't win. You're fighting a losing battle we don't have freedom anymore calling congress isn't what we need to do to change. We need to take action but that well never happen
>>584420463 Don't you understand, this is what the people want. I know it's terrible, but seriously, this isn't even a dem/republican issue, both parties are actively trying to take your rights away. Ffs, I had an argument with some tea bagger the other day about how he thinks that the fifth amendment shouldn't exist because it "obstructs justice..." AND PEOPLE FUCKING AGREED WITH HIM, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS! It's over. It's been over for a long time. America has been comfortable with it's rights for too long, and we've forgotten how important they are.
>>584421346 >is it a full police state yet tho? >i think its still gaining power how do you measure such a thing? Maybe imagine what this period would look like from a historical perspective. Pretty oppressive, at the least
Why do niggers tinfoil hat tards always talk about a police state.
Think real hard, real real hard about how they would actually benefit going full martial law/police state. Police/ law enforcement /government already have all of the power they need to do whatever the fuck they want. There is literally no logical reason to take it all the way so that its obvious to everyone its a police state. They need the cage to be pretty and appear free to the plebs.
So they want to read my text messages and see what kind of porn I look at for the purpose of intelligence or counterintelligence. Cool.
Guys, listen, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have no rights. Not really. Their imaginary, we made them up. The 'authorities' can ignore whatever 'rights' you think you have at any time it suits them, regardless of whether this bill is passed or not. The police and DEA do it all the time. If ANY of you think you do have rights, go search for 'japanese americans 1942'.
>>584422328 Not him, but I wouldn't call the US oppressive. Even from a modern standpoint, there are way worse places on the planet. And remember, for most of human history, you couldn't have a different religion from the majority in your area. You couldn't criticize the actions of your country's leaders without being executed. Hell, my county's sheriff outright called Edward Snowden a hero at a town hall meeting despite him being wanted by our government, you can say whatever you want still. You can think whatever you want still. So long as you don't do anything directly against our government, you are still entitled to your own thoughts and speech. That is huge.
>>584422773 >Think real hard, real real hard about how they would actually benefit going full martial law/police state. Police/ law enforcement /government already have all of the power they need to do whatever the fuck they want. There is literally no logical reason to take it all the way so that its obvious to everyone its a police state. They need the cage to be pretty and appear free to the plebs. sure there is. if the bottom of the economic falls out- which it's slated to do - the state has a lot of hungry, angry people on its hands.
You might have actually read the bill yourself, this part is pretty fucking clear "(Sec.302) Prohibits the authorization of appropriations by this Act from being deemed to constitute authority to conduct any intelligence activity not otherwise authorized by the Constitution or laws of the United States."
Not seeing how requiring an audit somehow negates the fact that the law gives no authorization for anything not given by another law or the Constitution. Back to /pol loser.
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