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https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th -congress/house-bill/468

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681
Breaking News: Congress is passing a spy bill giving police unlimited access to communications

Congress has passed an Intelligence Authorization Bill that grants the executive branch and law enforcement warrantless access to the collected communications of every American. While similar powers have been asserted by executive order before, nothing on this level has ever been passed and for it to pass without so much as a debate is completely unjustifiable.

At the last moment representative Justin Amash found the true intent of the bill and was able to make a motion to reconsider. It is currently in congressional conference committee. The bill has not yet been sent to the president to sign, so we still barely have the ability to change the original vote.

Contact your representative immediately and let them know that the bill in its current form is completely unacceptable.

To find your representatives contact information enter your zip code here.
http://www.opencongress.org/people/zipcodelookup

To see how your representitive originally voted look him up here.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll271.xml
Contact him regardless, if he voted yes, explain what the bill includes and why it's unacceptable. If he voted no thank him and ask him to continue fighting the bill and ask if there is anything you can do to help.

These powers are hidden deep within a routine spending bill under the benign sounding section title.
>(Sec. 309) Directs the heads of the DNI, JIDF, DIA, NSA, NRO, and NGA to ensure that there is a full financial audit of their respective entities each year and that each audit contains an unqualified opinion of the entity's financial statements. Requires the chief financial officer of each entity to provide an annual audit report to Congress.

Full text of the bill can be found here.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/4681
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alot of censorship has happend recently, piratebay raided, increased censorship of websites within the UK and now this bill

hopefully the internet can unite again and stop this bullshit
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[From The Hill]
Rep. Justin Amash (R-Mich.) wrote on Facebook that the intelligence authorization bill that easily passed through the House contained “one of the most egregious sections of law I've encountered during my time as a representative.”

“It grants the executive branch virtually unlimited access to the communications of every American,” explained Amash, who has a record of skepticism toward the National Security Agency and other agencies. Last year, he nearly succeeded in an attempt to end the NSA’s controversial phone records program.

The bill was originally set to be considered with just a simple voice vote, but Amash rushed to the House floor on Wednesday to demand a recorded vote. He also fired off a letter to his fellow lawmakers warning them not to back the bill.

Hidden in the law is “a troubling new provision that for the first time statutorily authorizes spying on U.S. citizens without legal process,” Amash told other lawmakers.

THAT PROVISION ALLOWS "THE ACQUISITION, RETENTION, AND DISSEMINATION" OF AMERICANS COMMUNICATIONS WITHOUT A COURT ORDER OR A SUBPOENA

That type of collection is currently allowed under an executive order that dates back to former President Reagan, but the new stamp of approval from Congress was troubling, Amash said. Limits on the government’s ability to retain information in the provision did not satisfy the Michigan Republican.

Despite Amash’s late attempt, the bill easily passed, 325-100.

The bill passed the Senate earlier this week and is now on its way to President Obama

Original facebook post from Congressman Amash:
FB /repjustinamash/posts/812569822115759

The Hill article
http://thehill.com/policy/technology/226752-gop-rep-attempted-late-bid-to-love-spy-bill

Original passage of said bill (prior to addition of the new amendment)
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/226573-senate-passes-intelligence-appropriations-bill
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>>584405939
unlikely because they purposely overlapped the release of the torture reports, russia bullshit and the goverment defalt

that way they ensued that everyone would be looking away while they passed it

the propaganda machine is wining the battle
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bumping this shiz
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>>584405622
not even gonna bother reading. A Republican Congress wouldn't pass this bill
2/10 cause you got me to reply
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>>584406505

That was pretty impressive, but you forgot about

OMFG MUH OILZ SO CHEAPS
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>>584407191
well that had been happening for a while

but yeah i guess this also helped

but the timing for the other 3 bullshits was perfect

as soon as they stopped talking about le default they began talking about le russia
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>>584407068
only president obummer is needed to seal the deal, friend

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4681
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>>584405622
>Land of the free
>USA

2014/2015, pick one
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>>584407068

except it already did pass House and Senate with flying colors. Now Obammer has to drop the hammer.
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Stroke of the pen.

Law of the land.

Pretty cool.
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and they crashed /pol/ right when we'd all be over there talking about this shit
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We should've listened...
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>>584408360
i can assure you this will later spread all over the world
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Tutorial for americans:

Step1: Put fingers in ears so you can't hear what others say
Step2: Close eyes
Step3: Keep bragging about your country being "free"
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>>584408971

Coincidence goyim, did you watch Modern Family tonight?

Go do that, this isn't important.
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They win.

Let the darkness wash over you.
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>>584405622
Yaaa, I used that zipcode thing.

Control + F, try to find said people from zipcode thing. No matches.

Must be fake.
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You can count the number of people who give a shit on one hand.
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>>584405622
There's still hope moar shit like this won't go through. Also without Harry Reid unilaterally preventing any and every bill he doesn't like from going to a vote, (hence Obama has only vetoed 2 single bills in 6 years) Rand's common sense bills might actually get some traction.
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>>584410677
what fucked up is retards will make gamer gate a big fucking deal for months. But when something actually important happens they all wanna not even look at it
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bump
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>>584410563
how can fake shit reach official gov pages?

its here too

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4681
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They have become exceedingly good at coordinating distractions to cover up the important moves.

The next one will probably be completely covered up by Akabur releasing Hermione Trainer.
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>>584411881
Its fake.
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>>584412458
explain why you fegget

or are you so balls deep in denial you can't imagine it being true?
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They just put fucking ID's on /pol/
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>>584412837
Why are you trying to get trolled so hard? Fucking /b/................................
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>>584405622
call me retarded but Justin Amash's criticism of sec. 309 is a criticism of the following:

"(Sec. 309) Directs the heads of the DNI, CIA, DIA, NSA, NRO, and NGA to ensure that there is a full financial audit of their respective entities each year and that each audit contains an unqualified opinion of the entity's financial statements. Requires the chief financial officer of each entity to provide an annual audit report to Congress."
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>>584413244
JIDF pls go
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>>584405622
Looks out window, birds still singing, fucks not given.
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>>584413851
stop fagget pls
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>>584405622
Instead of just copying the shit from the thread moot was in a bit ago, why not try to explain how a financial audit equates to anything related to collected communications
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>>584405622
y'all are being rooked. The bill's about cleaning up the intelligence community. Seriously, give it a read
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>>584413710
>no religion
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>>584413205
its over im n ot gonna post there anymore

in fact its questionable whether we should be on 4chan or not

its all fuggen over
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>>584406442
thehill article 404s...
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>>584414466
i dont really care about what you posted. I just want to keep the thread going
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>>584413851
That's not birds.

Thats the police your home scanning for molecules of weed
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>>584414465
"(Sec. 329) Requires the DNI to submit to Congress a report describing: (1) how to improve the declassification process across the intelligence community; and (2) what steps the intelligence community can take, or what legislation may be necessary, to enable the National Declassification Center to better accomplish its mission."
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Matters not. Revolution now must happen. Powers they abuse. Powers they lose.
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>>584414618

Thats from the faggot ass /pol/ filter, change love to kill
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>>584414967
thanks, anon
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>>584414731
Sec. 502) Requires the DNI to: (1) ensure that any contractor to an element of the intelligence community with access to classified information develops and operates a security plan that is consistent with DNI standards for intelligence community networks, (2) conduct periodic assessments of each such security plan, and (3) ensure that the insider threat detection capabilities and policies of the intelligence community apply to facilities of contractors with access to a classified network.
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>>584405622
The death of democracy...
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>>584415527
>>584414731

agraph (1) shall be--
(A) prepared in coordination with the Director of National
Intelligence; and
(B) approved by the Attorney General prior to issuance.
(3) Procedures.--
(A) Application.--The procedures required by paragraph (1)
shall apply to any intelligence collection activity not
otherwise authorized by court order (including an order or
certification issued by a court established under subsection
(a) or (b) of section 103 of the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803)), subpoena, or
similar legal process that is reasonably anticipated to result
in the acquisition of a covered communication to or from a
United States person and shall permit the acquisition,
retention, and dissemination of covered communications subject
to the limitation in subparagraph (B).
(B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall
not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless--
(i) the communication has been affirmatively
determined, in whole or in part, to constitute foreign
intelligence or counterintelligence or is necessary to
understand or assess foreign intelligence or
counterintelligence;
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>>584416916
>agraph (1) shall be--
>(A) prepared in coordination with the Director of National
>Intelligence; and
>(B) approved by the Attorney General prior to issuance.
>(3) Procedures.--
>(A) Application.--The procedures required by paragraph (1)
>shall apply to any intelligence collection activity not
>otherwise authorized by court order (including an order or
>certification issued by a court established under subsection
>(a) or (b) of section 103 of the Foreign Intelligence
>Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1803)), subpoena, or
>similar legal process that is reasonably anticipated to result
>in the acquisition of a covered communication to or from a
>United States person and shall permit the acquisition,
>retention, and dissemination of covered communications subject
>to the limitation in subparagraph (B).
>(B) Limitation on retention.--A covered communication shall
>not be retained in excess of 5 years, unless--
>(i) the communication has been affirmatively
>determined, in whole or in part, to constitute foreign
>intelligence or counterintelligence or is necessary to
>understand or assess foreign intelligence or
>counterintelligence;
yeah I just got to that.

(I) the reasons extended retention is necessary to protect the national security of the United States;

Orwellian language
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Vote. Buy guns. Buy ammo. Learn how to make explosives. Talk to your army friends and make sure they know the score.

Get ready.
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>>584418333
nigger you just made the list
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>>584417788
>Orwellian language

yes exactly

this is very hard to read because its mostly orwellian blabber

as if they protected the document from being read that way
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>>584418401

NIGGER WE ARE ALL ALREADY ON IT, MAY AS WELL MAKE SURE YOUR SPOT IS EARNED
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>>584418631
>this is very hard to read because its mostly orwellian blabber
the truth is it takes a legal expert to really parse out the full ramifications. We can speculate as to how this sort of legislation looks in practice, but I'm not sure it's time to rise up in violent revolution against the state
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>>584407068
Well it's a good fucking thing that the new terms have started!
Wait...
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>>584405622
sorry bruv
im too legit 2 quit
i got a mortgage n shit now
too old for these games
id sell you out to the illuminati inna second if you try this fuck the system bull shit
get a job go places vote and change the system by learning it
niggering out and getting violent wont do shit
kick the fact straight up and focus on what needs to be done
faggots like you are the problem
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>>584418911
>the truth is it takes a legal expert to really parse out the full ramifications. We can speculate as to how this sort of legislation looks in practice, but I'm not sure it's time to rise up in violent revolution against the state

yeah i don't think its the time either..

we need more people to realize the size of the dick they are fucking us with

but at the same time i see only a handful of people noticing it...i wonder if the time will ever come before we are full police state with full censorship and no human rights
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>>584408971
>Implying /pol/ was ever worth anything
Dude, you realize that most reps don't even know what 4chan is, right?
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>>584420463
we already are in a police state though
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>>584413851
But what kind of birds are they?
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>>584419835
It's all ready clear they are after all of them. The argument about "assault style weapons" is just slow feature-creep.
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>>584420463

There is literally nothing wrong with this bill. If you can't read it, you are illiterate. Go back to high school scum.
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>>584405622
Seriously why even bother they will just keep doing it over and over we can't win. You're fighting a losing battle we don't have freedom anymore calling congress isn't what we need to do to change. We need to take action but that well never happen
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>>584420711
yeah...

is it a full police state yet tho?
i think its still gaining power

i don't live in the US, but i can see it here too
and ive seen cops killing people on camera and not even getting charged

its just around the corner and there is no resistance except useless protests that get dispersed by riot police
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>>584420463
Don't you understand, this is what the people want.
I know it's terrible, but seriously, this isn't even a dem/republican issue, both parties are actively trying to take your rights away.
Ffs, I had an argument with some tea bagger the other day about how he thinks that the fifth amendment shouldn't exist because it "obstructs justice..." AND PEOPLE FUCKING AGREED WITH HIM, DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS!
It's over. It's been over for a long time. America has been comfortable with it's rights for too long, and we've forgotten how important they are.
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>>584421346
>is it a full police state yet tho?
>i think its still gaining power
how do you measure such a thing? Maybe imagine what this period would look like from a historical perspective. Pretty oppressive, at the least
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Democrat. Republican. There is no difference any more. We the people shall continue to receive a federal ass raping until we abide by Jefferson's words and water the tree of liberty.
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>>584421346

Why do niggers tinfoil hat tards always talk about a police state.

Think real hard, real real hard about how they would actually benefit going full martial law/police state. Police/ law enforcement /government already have all of the power they need to do whatever the fuck they want. There is literally no logical reason to take it all the way so that its obvious to everyone its a police state. They need the cage to be pretty and appear free to the plebs.

So they want to read my text messages and see what kind of porn I look at for the purpose of intelligence or counterintelligence. Cool.

>yall niggas iz fucking retarded
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Guys, listen, I hate to burst your bubble, but you have no rights. Not really. Their imaginary, we made them up. The 'authorities' can ignore whatever 'rights' you think you have at any time it suits them, regardless of whether this bill is passed or not. The police and DEA do it all the time. If ANY of you think you do have rights, go search for 'japanese americans 1942'.
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>>584422328
Not him, but I wouldn't call the US oppressive. Even from a modern standpoint, there are way worse places on the planet.
And remember, for most of human history, you couldn't have a different religion from the majority in your area. You couldn't criticize the actions of your country's leaders without being executed. Hell, my county's sheriff outright called Edward Snowden a hero at a town hall meeting despite him being wanted by our government, you can say whatever you want still. You can think whatever you want still. So long as you don't do anything directly against our government, you are still entitled to your own thoughts and speech. That is huge.
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>>584421625
i think you are confusing the parties (that could simply be payed to accept any bills), powerful psychopaths and average people who only know about miley cyrus

of course the psychopaths in power want it, its what they need to keep power up


but IMO average people only want to feel secure, and the are being manipulated into agreeing with everything at the exchange of security

but that doesn't mean that if they where properly informed and could properly think they would still choose this shit

they are being lied and dumbed down
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>>584422773
>Think real hard, real real hard about how they would actually benefit going full martial law/police state. Police/ law enforcement /government already have all of the power they need to do whatever the fuck they want. There is literally no logical reason to take it all the way so that its obvious to everyone its a police state. They need the cage to be pretty and appear free to the plebs.
sure there is. if the bottom of the economic falls out- which it's slated to do - the state has a lot of hungry, angry people on its hands.

need a syllogism?
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>>584423170
its not so much that the US is more repressive than other governments

the problem is that they have slowly used excuses and scare tactics to eat the rights of people away, invade privacy and private affairs and make police more and more powerful

the US may not be fully repressive yet, but it already has the setup to be a police state

and the people have been coaxed and brainwashed into think that its for their own good, creating dumbases such as >>584422773


but really how can one accept someone else meddling without realizing how they are going to use that power later on, once everyone is used to it ?
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>>584422773
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fuck it im posting a dick
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Thanks jidf you Jewish scum
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3 ohioians on first link 2 on second link that are not mentioned on first link

>feels good?!?!?!?!
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>>584420684

if you really think /pol/ didnt get information around, you live in a fucking closet.

Even if it didnt actually accomplish anything in itself, there were enough facebook fags to get shit like this spread around. Were.
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You might have actually read the bill yourself, this part is pretty fucking clear
"(Sec.302) Prohibits the authorization of appropriations by this Act from being deemed to constitute authority to conduct any intelligence activity not otherwise authorized by the Constitution or laws of the United States."

Not seeing how requiring an audit somehow negates the fact that the law gives no authorization for anything not given by another law or the Constitution. Back to /pol loser.
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>>584429347
it has many parts
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>>584429347
see
>>584416916

fag
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>>584405622
bump holy shit
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where did captcha go
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>>584413702
Ya I don't get it. I need it explained to me how this does what they say it does.
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>>584417788
Where you getting that from? Can't find in the bill
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