The act of playing girls keeps you mysterious. You'll naturally be hard to get and less available because other women monopolize your time. They all work against each other playing in your favor. They'll have to be on your time. They'll want you more. You'll have more experience and less inhibition. You'll make riskier moves and be more successful. You'll be less afraid of failure because you'll have a safety net. They'll see this as you being confident.
If you borderline cheat on a girl or leave her for another girl, she'll want you even more. Jealousy manipulates girls into thinking you're better than them. She'll take you back. Afterwards, she'll accommodate the shit out of you and never relax. She'll have it in her mind you could leave or cheat again so she'll spend every waking moment pleasing you. It's retarded how effective it is. At some point, you'll be fucking her in the ass and she'll be apologizing to you for bleeding on your dick. You'll respond by saying, "it's alright, bitch, just buy me new sheets." True story.
Once in a while, she'll bring up the past. It doesn't really matter what you say the result stays the same.
Girls crave authority over dick size and height. By authority I mean someone who people listen to or is in charge in some way. In essence, the center of attention. Example professions include professors, law enforcement, management, musicians, military, criminals, celebrities, etc. Not so coincidentally, females have poor spacial perception and their minds automatically enlarge such individuals. Conceive a scenario that a girl always thinks her dad or husband could kick just about everyone's ass. It violates probability, but females are irrational. Use this to your advantage. Make her envision you as a giant.
Get girls off. This is anecdotal and hearsay, but I have insurmountable experience to back it. Something triggers in a girl's head when she orgasms. Some part of her is forever bound to you. Unfortunately, that always means some part of her is forever bound to her past. Fuck the past though.
However, don't get her off every time. Leave her wanting more. Intermittently buttfuck her or receive head. This will keep her on her toes. Additionally, this will set the par that giving blow jobs and taking it in the ass isn't just for special occassions. Don't fucking wait until April 18th or your birthday.
Girls are naturally masochistic. They like pain and being submissive. They like being man-handled. No matter what they say, they like not getting their way. They might fuss about it, but in the end they'll respect you for standing your ground and having the testicular fortitude to tame their incorrigible asses. Pull their hair and smack their ass while hitting it from behind. Don't be afraid to grab their head and push it down when appropriate. Treat her like a prostitute from time to time. They love that shit.
Get fit. This is what makes everything else fall in to place. It'll turn a foreveralone fag into a raging alpha. Simply by getting fit, you'll get more attention regardless of your beta leakage. 3/10's will seek you out. Surprisingly, female 3/10's think they're worth a fit fag despite their lack of inherent worth and motivation. Maybe because I can't handle my alcohol. From there, 3/10's will provide the XP and confidence to level up to 4/10's, 5/10's, and so on.
Don't put pussy on a pedestal. Guys do this and cause social inequality. Don't pay for everything and be super chivalrous for sex. Sex is already an even exchange. They want it as much as we do. In fact, if she gets some good dick, she'll become a personal ATM for you and more.
Don't put up with shit. Move along when necessary. Don't get caught up in a power struggle. Don't let a girl do things you're not cool with. Treat her as expendable. She'll either mold to your expectations, or you'll move on to someone that can. She can't call your bluff if you're not bluffing. Keep in mind, you can't win them all. There are very crazy and stupid girls out there, and it will nag your mind if you think too much into it. Move on to the next. Half the time, they'll realize they were fucking with a boss and change their entire angle. The other half of the time, they get really, really mad.
Don't be an asshole. This is a common misconception. Girls say they want a nice guy, you play the nice guy, they friendzone you for an "asshole", etc. You're missing the point. He's not an asshole. He might fuck around on her. He might not put up with her shit. He might demean her a little, be rough with her, and put her in her place. But he's not being mean to her or needlessly cold to her. That's some passive-aggressive panzy shit. And that's the approach you guys all get wrong when come to the conclusion that girls like assholes. In fact, if you're an asshole and you do all these things, you won't get your way in the end.
Two girls find out about each other. They both leave the asshole. Two girls find out about each other. They give me the option between the two and start to compete for me. Big difference in outcomes.
>>583540759 >Two girls find out about each other. They both leave the asshole. Two girls find out about each other. They give me the option between the two and start to compete for me. Big difference in outcomes. play that shit right, anon.
How to find out is that when a girl really wants you, she won't pass up the opportunity. So create that opportunity and see if she bites.
2. She fell for the old player tactics once, now she wants a nice guy.
No. It's artificial to be "a nice guy". It's not in our nature, and they sure as fuck don't like it either. They'll get bored and leave. Do what your primal instincts tell you. You can have a great personality, and she'll forgive the rest. These girls never learn anyways. They would rather be hurt with someone they want than be comfortable with someone they don't want.
There's this chick who I used to always see around campus sometimes but never talked to, who came up to me one day, we talked and she gave me her #. The next day I find out she's dating this guy I kinda know so I stop pursuing. Then one day(month or two later) I see and her and sit and talk to her for a while and she tells me her bf broke up with her. As she's leaving she tells me to text her bc I never texted her after she gave me her #. I forgot about her for a couple days and then text her saying "hey its anon" or something like that. No text back. Then I see her a couple days later and joke with her about not texting me back. So she texts me and right there and then later that night I reply. No text back again.
So I feel like I'm getting mixed signals. Then on Thanksgiving she texts me happy Thanksgiving!! and I say the same. I feel like I probably could've started a convo there but I was at socializing with the family and not thinking straight. No text back that day either.
So fast forward to a few nights ago at a party her ex taps me on the shoulder greets me(super friendly guy) and as I'm shaking his hand I look next to him and see her. So I'm figuring they got back together. Dam. So I wave to her and say hey and she smiles and says hey back. And as they're walking away she like rubs on my elbow and winks at me. Wtf.
The next night I was on campus and that's when pic related happened. I know my text game is terrible, but I feel like I she's giving me all kinds of mixed signals or maybe she was never that interested in me. Advice based anon?
So man the fuck up and do what you want. There's nothing more unattractive to a girl than a guy that's afraid to make a move or has to ask. Cut that LGBT (.0001% of the population) rhetoric of asking out.
Risk taking is an attractive quality in a man. You're risking rejection. Do it. Also, confidence is an attractive quality. Have confidence you'll succeed.
>>583544170 I've ran into this situation before. She seems to have an on and off thing with her boyfriend. She's keeping her options open. I've gotten to the point of making a date to hang out and being stood up just to find out later she got back with her boyfriend. Meanwhile texting me back, but never committing.
The thing is, try it. If it doesn't work, move along. Don't get hung up on shit like this ever.
It depends on the girl. You can get plenty of sex casually dating and miss out on those opportunities if you're up front with them about only wanting sex. You'd be limiting your options. However, if you can tell the girl would be down, mention it.
>>583546029 How should I go about it. She stays in the dorms, but I commute. I don't want a relationship with her I just want to smash. There's only a week left in the semester btw and I might not come back.
Basically, start fucking around with girls you're comfortable with until it becomes second nature to be a whore. It'd make it easier to transition from small talk to a move. You'd look back on that post later and see how much you thought way into it.
Good advice OP. I have a weird problem, I don't have much game but I'm popular (as in lots of grills want to get with me), but the problem is the girls aren't so popular with me, as in I don't like the girls who like me enough to make a move on them and girls have no game, they can't make you like them unless you already like them.
So wtf can I do to change that and create tension so that there's something between me and the girl other than them just liking me for the same reasons everybody likes me?
>>583549025 Sounds gay maybe. Go for girls you want instead. I can't tell you how make yourself like a girl you don't like.
>>583549029 Girls in general. I have a lot of experience with all types of women: black, asian, white. From my experience, women are all the same aside from their cultural quirks. There are only so many molds they're cut out of and how they act in relationships/dating depends on that and it's independent of their race.
okay op. theres this girl ive had some classes with, shes a 9/10, funny, simple and shes also a model. but how do i become somthing that she desires? i know a lot of girls comment on my looks when im in class but im guessing that im not that impressive to her (?) i want to make her mine.i know how to play the game but how do i step my game up to have a chance with 8+/10 girls? how do you become interesting to a girl that has so many options she might even not bother looking at you
Problem. You're worried about your looks. Are you afraid you're not pretty enough for her or something?
I didn't expect all these "how do I get this one girl in particular?" questions. I was hoping they'd be more theoretical or philosophical.
I'm not saying I can pick up a certain 10/10. It's hit or miss. Bitches are crazy or sometimes oddly specific in their tastes. But you can optimize your chances. If you read all my shit at the top of the thread, you'd have an idea on how to get there.
>>583549564 Haha not gay, maybe more like demisexual, not sure. It's not that I dislike them, like, they're nice, they might be cute, but there's nothing to go on, you know, no tension, no connection.
It's like, you talk to a new girl, talk about mundane things, where you're from, what do you do, all that bullshit, and it stays friendly, even if she clearly likes you, but no tension, so no reason to go further. How do you turn up the heat on the situation and make shit start to happen? I get kinda capable if a girl starts teasing me but in the situations I usually meet people it usually doesn't happen, so I don't get inspired to do anything even if they drop massive hints.
I guess what I'm asking is how do you take a friendly conversation to heavy mutual flirting territory.
>>583550935 That's more like it. Yes. Get fit. But you know that already. It'll come in time. But don't use craigslist. Use okcupid, pof, tinder, and the like.
Also, don't waste money on a fancy date for Internet dating. You could be catfished or fooled by an angle-shot girl. Not only that, but don't spend that much money unless you know the girl is interested in you.
Mexican restaurants are awesome because they're cheaper than Applebee's but they don't have the stigma of being considered a cheap date.
Okay, kind sir. Then for a little bit more philosphical question. Do you personally think, it is possible to have an equal (to a realistic degree) and fulfilling relationship? I know, that your approaches work. But i don't like the kind of relationship that evolves out of this "set up" scenarios. I've lost faith in humanity long ago and i don't believe in love, but there is something missing in this relationships. I don't feel truly comfortable, if i have the feeling, that i completely control my partner. Can you follow?
TL;DR : Do you believe it's possible to find a woman, with whom one can live without this strategic shit or do you think, they're all the same?
>>583551741 You're the guy. It's better if put yourself out there first. Girls are less apt to do so cause no balls. It's kind of like how one person steps on the line, the other person steps on the line with them, then the person crosses the line just a little, and so on.
>>583551741 >>583552271 You're going about it wrong. Just make her feel comfortable and then make the move. It's simple.
>>583552309 You need to get on her radar and show her your confidence. That's getting to know her. Forget about becoming something she desires aside from being fit, experienced, and confident.
>>583537692 OP and I have similar tactics. He is telling the truth, they work. Not sure if I agree about "putting them in their place" or not paying for meals. I do treat women well, but each girl knows that I wouldn't really mind losing them. There's a difference between caring and being attached. Not being attached means I come off as confident and I don't hesitate to do or say what I want.
Internet dating works. Some on there are thirsty, but you want to catch the ones that are either slutty or were duped by their slutty friend and only temporarily on there.
Also, you can meet people anywhere. It's riskier and more of a cold start meeting people at work or school. Also you may not want to shit where you eat. The best way is to become super social. Put yourself out there. Hang out with people you might not even like that much. Go to get-to-gethers and parties. Also, friend women you're not interested in to get to their cute friends. They're always wanting to play cupid.
QUESTION: Im in a situation where there is this random cute red head in my church that i have never meet nor seen. She doesnt know me at all. How do i apporoach her if shes constanlty with her family at church?
>>583553025 so called decent women are no different from 20yo sluts, they just camouflage themselves better. For 10years I had a gf who by all standards could be called decent, stylish, classy and so on. And guess what? In the end she turned out to be exactly a fucked up 15yo slut that despised me for trying to treat her as equal and falling for a slick manipulator who now gets her do things she would never do for me and I would get a lot of bad language just for asking.
Continue OP, I too wish I had your wisdom earlier.
>>583552617 Of course. It makes you last longer in bed anyway. I don't see what's wrong with it. I get laid almost every day, but the days I don't I definitely rub one out. Every now and then skipping a day or two.
>>583553608 By putting them in their place, I mean when they become incorrigible or unfair, calling them out on their shit and not putting up with it. I think you can agree with that. I treat women well too. I also try to pay for them half the time, but what I do works so well, I couldn't possibly afford it all and they insist.
>>583554004 Sometimes I say raw shit to catch them off guard. Not a suggestion, but something I wanted to share. They're startled, but they like it. Maybe you can think of what you want from them? I don't know.. this is outside the scope of this thread.
>>583555018 Yes, you can definitely change things mid-flight. I've done it before.
I've been texting this girl on Tinder for a few months now. She has told me all about her other dates and shit. Some of them they got physical with. She says she told me abot all off them. Yesterday I met her for the first time and we just hugged. She said she didn't want to ruin our friendship(alot of heave subject conversations) by kissing me or anything. classic friendzone. She says the fucking around is a phase and has previously been in long term relationships(confirmed) Mention to me she is going out with another guy tonight. Is she anyway into me or should I just bugger off?
>>583555908 obviously im going to say hi, but with her family present how am i ever going to have an actual conversation and get her number. I cant just say hi :) GIVE ME YOUR NUMBER I FIND YOU ATTRACTIVE I WANNA POUND YOUR FIRE PUSSY INTO THE DEPTHS OF HELL. love me..... NA i cant say that so how should i lure her away from her family so i can get to mackin!?
>>583555297 So if anyone was born in the eighties and was impressionable in the 90's the media brainwashed you into thinking you need to ask to make a move otherwise it's rape. It's complete bullshit. Of course there're guys out there that can't read body language and are mildly retarded, but most of us know when it's appropriate. And we should go for what we want. If she gave us mixed signals. Her fault.
The LGBT (lesbian gay bisexual tranny) is a significantly small but extraordinarily vocal percentage of the population.
>>583537692 okay, gimme advice... spent 13 yrs in a relationship with the girl i lost my virginity to... she left me almost 2 years ago... and ive been single since then, ive taken a few girls out on dates, but never got anywhere with that... i feel like a little kid when i get around girls i dont know... all my experience was with my ex, and i never had to learn to be alpha... should i just try to get on craigslist or something and fuck random sluts? or what? cuz im getting tired of jacking off all the damn time... also- imnot an ugly person... most girls think im cute, and they love my eyes.... i just turn to a pussy around them and it fucks me over...
And she is saying u are beta bux - i.e. Her telling u about the dates was her wanting u to be jealous and man up and ask her out... but u failed shit test. Ur ucked Op. Stop the oneitis anon and move the fuck on. All your doing is giving her attention and thats all she sees u as.
>>583538973 can verify. chatting to my gf about sex one day and she shyly admitted she likes it rough sometimes. not every time. so i bought a paddle. she keeps it. i told her to get it and bring it to me whenever she feels like it. it's at least a couple of times a week.
>>583555963 Move along. But you can still be friends with her. She might have friends. It's also good conversation practice.
>>583556338 haha. How do you know you want to without judging how she says hi back? You should start with saying hi. Smile more.
>>583556515 You judge their subtle body language and what they say. It comes from experience too.
Confidence is harder to fake than it is to build. I mean, if you can act, sure.
Both of these can be achieved by gaining XP from 4/10's+ and leveling up
>>583556578 Yeah, you need to get your feet wet. Don't set your sites too high immediately or you'll just strike out and feel worse. But you definitely need the experience. Keep trying until you find one you like that likes you back.
OP, how does one keep a good conversation going without sounding awkward? I usually resort to small talk and can only get a good conversation going for a couple minutes, then it gets awkward and quiet again.
Allright. Since you are offering to help. I am no alpha player, but neither am I a virgin. I recently spotted a girl at school that I would classify as an 8/10 (9/10 if she has a good personality). She seems to be the shy sort, and rarely converses with those outside of her social circle. It also seems as if she does not go out on weekends to party Problem is: i have no idea on how to approach her, as i do not have any common classes or friends with her. Normally i would somehow strike up a conversation based on something we have in common, such as a class or a friend. If that would not work i would meet her at a social gathering such as a party, but she does not go out. How on earth do i make contact with her? Shy girls are hard...
>>583557497 dude you need to do something to spark up your relationship again or the next guy like OP who comes along is gonna take her away from you.
try travelling somewhere. doesn't have to be exotic, just far away enough that it feels different from home. people act different when they are in different environments. also hotel sex is awesome and you don't have to clean the sheets yourself.
I like her. But I have a feeling we can't talk about anything anymore. We don't have mutual interests. When I'm traveling for work all we talk about is how each others day was and that we miss each other. Those are our only talking points.
You might think it's strange but I'm pretty sure she's not seeing this and thinks we're good as always or maybe she thinks it's normal after three years.
Sometimes I meet a girl I'm interested in but I can't really chase her because I'm in a relationship and I don't have the courage to make an end and dive into the uncertainty of single life.
>>583559870 Don't do coke you'll seem like an idiot. I prefer a little bit of molly, or even half a tab of acid. I'm infinitely more social with them. Both really good for talking if you can handle your shit in public.
>>583559232 The burden is always going to be on you to prevent it from going quiet or getting boring. If you have nothing to say don't make yourself look stupid coming up with stuff, you need to do that before you talk to her. Think about what you can talk about with her, ask a lot about her and get to know her. Trust me, I've never met a girl who can't talk about herself lol.
>>583558794 Smiling is inviting and friendly, but statistically a man that is not smiling is viewed as more attracrive than a man who is. Just putting that out there. Smile, but dont grin like an idiot all the time.
>>583558028 Because as soon as she knows you're caught it's not a challenge anymore, it's like a kid with a toy, when they can't have it they want it. You need to keep her guessing until you make the move, leave any time between showing interest and making a move and she's gone.
>>583558794 Ok op I have a question So im borderline alpha 7/10, fit i work out every day. so i met this girl during summer in canada, we had a thing but nothing really happened, we both wanted to fuck but we didnt have a chance. SO the story is that I live in moscow, (im a senior in HS) >inb4 underage no im 18 and I go to school in moscow, so i visit canada every summer. WE both knew that nothing was gonna happen cus long distance is a bitch.
So we talked and shit and fuck i want to marry this girl shes 8/10 perfect face etc super smart too
but basically when i got back ot moscow i fucked some slut and accidentally told the girl in canada about it.
she got really pissed off and pretty much wont reply to me on whatsapp anymore.
>>583558794 So theres this old coworker i had that was single back when i worked with her. She was always very excited to talk to me and would hug me and try to take breaks at the same time that i did.
Now about a month later i visit the store again and everyone was happy to see me, missed me and so on. She is going out with one of the boys there and apparently its very new.
What i want to do is seduce her, im thinking about going up there on one of her usual shifts and telling her straight up that i can rock her world better than the bf can, giving her my number, and then letting her bite. Does this sound good or should i be more subtle?
It's more of how you say it. You can be direct, but not get carried away.
Girls don't like guys being mushy. That's their job. They might post instagram pics of sayings they wish their dream man would say, but coming from a regular guy, it's too beta and turns them off. They'd rather be slapped on the ass.
So declaring your intent doesn't push them away, but being all up in your emotions does.
>>583559232 Practice. Eventually you'll get to the point where you have typical silence-killing goto's. But if you get to know them more, you find their interests and what really makes them interested and open up. If they don't have any interests it's because they don't like you or they're a shitty person and not worth your time.
Dear OP sir, I have an important question you haven't talked about and I assume a lot of betas need to know the answer. How do you know if a girl likes you? When she has caught the b8 and when she is just being friendly? I give an example - there is this girl who always rejects my offers for meetings; but then again after a while she proposes something? Does she does that only because there are no other options for her entertainment or is it pure interest?
>>583560762 Gonna pick up some slack from OP here. I have similar tactics. What you have to do is not message her for awhile. A month even. Give her time to get over it and realize that you two aren't committed and she still wants you. Messaging her over and over shows desperation. Girls hate desperation. Make her want you instead of showing your hand and letting her know how bad you want her.
>>583560880 They understand, they just don't care. It's harsh but in the end everyone is out for themselves. If they don't like you they'd rather make you unhappy than make themselves unhappy by dating you.
>>583559959 if you really like her it would be worth the effort to start a hobby you two can get into together. work out, go to live music shows regularly, set up a night each week to go to a new place to eat.
long term relationships take effort after the honeymoon phase wears off. if shes a keeper its totally worth it though.
>>583561685 Like I said just leave her alone for awhile and she will get over it. Either she will or you will learn a hard lesson: Don't tell women you want to fuck about the girl you just fucked. The only women who like that are sluts who's brain goes to the "I bet I could do it better" place instead of the "I thought he liked me" place.
>>583562298 Oh is she the type who can go one month without even getting online or trying to talk to you and act like everything fine? lol blame it on her, turn the tables and ask her what's up with that, how can you have a LDR and expect commitment if she goes AWOL for a month.
I have a no Canadians rule precisely because shit like that keeps happening with them. Canadian girls are fucked in the head man.
>>583539697 To add on to this point, stop fucking watching porn and ogling pictures of girls all day, staring at idealized beautiful women all day makes you nervous, shy, inferior around women, porn is probably the number of culprit for this pussy ass phenomenon. Easier said than done.
Icebreaking, OP, how do you go about it? Obviously smile say hi, make some polite conversation etc etc, but how do you go about making your intentions clear without seeming like you only want sex or seeming sort of creepy? Gd thread btw m8
>>583539697 To add on to this point, stop fucking watching porn and ogling pictures of girls all day, staring at idealized beautiful women all day makes you nervous, shy, inferior around women, porn is probably the number one culprit for this pussy ass phenomenon. Easier said than done.
>>583562554 You are if you keep messaging her back. End with something sweet that says you don't mind moving on and that you are going to do exactly that. Say I'm sorry I hurt you. I didn't know you cared that much but I will leave you alone now. Or something similar. You can make it more personal and it will sting her and stay in the back of her mind.
>>583537823 wow, sounds like you're a ginormous faggot with a gigantic ego who instead of focusing on other important aspects of life as well as women chooses to spend 100% of his time thinking about "the game". Frankly, I had 5 girlfriends and I never wanted having more or less. I had some beautiful ones and some were average Sometimes I've been rejected but massive faggots like you just make me laugh every time.
>>583563828 There is this guy in my circle of friends, Degenerate Dave. He gets laid by different females constantly, but it's exclusively by third world niggers (mostly Jamaicans, but some Trinidadians and Haitians, and recently a Liberian). He thinks he's some kind of stud. Everyone just lets him talk like he is the man, then we all laugh at him behind his back.
>>583561780 Yeah, but I question meat people try to give away for free. I prefer to go buy my own when I have the money. Some guys don't have the money.
>>583560790 It's not really my MO to intentionally steal girls and from my experience the only thing that can pull a girl from the honey moon phase (unless she's a whore) is the past. If it's not a honey moon phase, it won't last and just pick her up on the rebound.
>>583560979 If you were her primary interest, she'd make time for you. She may be busy with other guys. You can tell when someone likes you because they make themselves available.
>>583563628 Be objective about it and take it as constructive criticism. It hurts, but don't dwell on it. Nothing's going to come from thinking of the same bad thoughts on repeat. Come to your conclusion.
>>583564203 yeah vidya counts. join a video game club at your school to get some like minded friends.
try to branch out though maybe think about joining a dance class. yes a dance class. it's full of girls and it gives you ample opportunities to talk to them and get close to joke about your dance skills or lack thereof.
>>583564543 >>583564543 >>583564543 Thanks for the advice! Can you talk more on the subject in general? Like if you are interacting with a girl what are the signs that you can push and which are the signs for the friendzone?
>>583564524 >implying getting fit isn't a magic bullet man. It doesn't magically whisk away all your problems of social anxiety or stuff like that. Things that need to be worked on should be worked on, including one's body
hey OP, beta anon here. im an 18 y/o good looking kid (ive been told 8.5/10 by a solid 8-9) and i know girls are interested in me, but i have 0 game to speak of. i need help approaching girls, starting convos and from there making a move. the conversating part is not too bad, but i could use some help. my main problem is approaching and making a move without being the awkward b eta that i am, thanks
>>583558794 i feel you on that part. but the problem here isnt saying hi or talking to her. its getting the opprotunity to do so. she is surrounded by her family 24/7 in the church. so i dont even know how to talk to her. keep in mind this is church so were basically the only people under 18 in the building. i go to an all boys school so i dont get the opportunity at pussy often. so how can i lure this girl away from her family, or should i just approach the entire family after mass?
>>583564203 This guy >>583564559 speaks thruth. Dance class is an amazing leveller, almost everyone is feeling a bit weird and scared. Girls score high for a dude that can dance, and there is loads of socialising shit that goes along with it (get a bit drunk). Something like swing/lindy.
Source: I learned to dance, ended up teaching, saw it happen over and over again...
Nothing helps your social anxiety more then having to say no to a girl you quietly dreamed of for years, cause you are now out of her league and have a few nicer, prettier better women in line in front of her.
>>583564304 OK STORY TIME FAGS >be me >be freshman year >beta/10 >not fit, dont lift >get no pussy what so ever >have an ipod nano (pic related) >have these fat ass shoes greatidea.exe >put the ipod nano beneath my laces and turn the video recording on >walk up to girls in skirts and put my foot under them and get the cp >get home >masturbate to cp >cum buckets >do this on a timespan of 2 months get around 1 gb of videos >fast forward 3 years >post some gets on 4chan >friend who knows about the shit finds it >tells some other guy >other guy tells popular girls >popular girls tell the school >suspended for 4 days >almost expelled >fast forward 1 year later (senior) >i sit next to these bitches in english class >mfw no regrets
Theres an 8/10 girl who I like and who likes me, but she sends mixed signals. She has actually told me I'm cute, but doesn't text me back. She will text me "hey" then when I text back hey or whatever she won't text me back. Wat do?
>>583564962 In my experience which is not much with older women. She found me on a dating website like a pof. Cougars seem to usually seek out younger men on sites than to be open about wanting someone twice their age in public.
I have a crush on this girl that is somewhat of a distant bitch. What I mean is that whenever we talk, she acts uninterested and couldn't even care less about me but the moment I turn my back to her, she just keeps looking at me. I keep on calling her shit out. She always look at me and whenever in try to look back, she will unequivocally turn her head around in an obvious manner
>>583564962 Did you know that right after a divorce, women who have been married for a while (ie older women) go nympho for a short while. They are not caring about relationship, just sex with a new guy, and tend to go after younger guys for some reason.
If you found a chat room of women going thru divorce and say youre a young single guy into older women, I bet they might wear you dick off from fucking you so much. I bet you will come back to /b starting a thread saying "help, I fucking so many 30-45 yo women so much that I am losing too much weight in sperm. I am having to eat more"
>>583566273 This. Try to meet in person casually. I find it much easier to talk in person. Pay attention to body language. Talk about stupid shit even mundane things you see around you and try to be funny. This will loosen her up a bit even if the jokes are bad.
Got a question for you, bout a year ago I met a girl who was 2 years younger than me and we talked a lot, like a lot. I started to like her and I was not sure if she liked me too. Even though we would talk (messenger) to 4 am in the morning. She started asking relationship related questions like what do you think is the limit of age you can date someone and etc. etc. So the more I got to know her the more fun it got. But then shit happened like she and her friends seemed more like cunts (talk about irrelevant shit and attention whoring) and I said to my friend we gotta bail out. This shit is bad for my sanity. So I cut my contact with her and her friends. I only see them in HS, but mostly ignore them. With make-up she would be a 5/10.
I read all your posts.
Do you think I did the right thing or did I fuck up.
hey alpha anon, do you have any advice on making smalltalk? I can usually go up to girls and make smalltalk with them for a few minutes on topics that we have in common but there usually aren't that many and after I run out of common topics I kind of freeze up, advice would be appreciated.
I have a huge troubles with my confidence when approaching girls, what do? I feel like my whole body is saying huge NO when i do so. I know how to play the game onwards from there, but how do i get over this problem. >inb4 gay
>>583567224 Practice and experience. Talk to uglier girls and get their numbers then never text them. Work your way up to the big leagues. If you get good with the ugly ones you'll be better and more confident with the hotter ones.
>>583567629 Easily, walk up next to what they're buying. Pull out the shittest product, tell them it's better. ie) She's looking at countrylife butter, pull out tesco's own brand shitty butter. Tell her it's better. She'll laugh, introduce yourself, say you have to get going as you need don't have much time, get her number. Always smile but not too much.
Even if you don't have to go and aint in a rush, shopping centre's are huge u wont bump into her and if u do say ur picking up something u missed.
>>583566986 You missed the window of opportunity with her earlier. Happens when you're young. You don't see it until after the fact. But maybe you dodged a bullet cause she turned out to be a cunt. You should hone your skills at getting to know when a girl is interested. But what matters more is if you're interested.
>>583537692 there's one chick that i started talking to a while ago. we get along great and she's my type, but she's taken. so far nothing unusual. what confuses me tho is, that she's somewhat flirty around me and never talks about her boyfriend. her best friend brought him up once as she got too flirty with me
>>583567224 I had that problem for years. One trick is to worry about whether she feels nervous and concentrate on calming her down.
Anytime you (or she) talks with someone you are even moderately attracted too, your blood pressure goes up and you get a little nervous. So if you have any chance with her, shes already going to be a little nervous. And you will look alittle less nervous and an little more protective (which to a girl, this is attractive)
Also works for me: Smile warmly, but sort of smirk like you are in on a inside joke. Makes you look more confident.
>583567634 how qucikly she replies, how annoyed she gets if you don't reply,(Online). (RL) How much eye contact, body language, how close she stands, does she recoil when you try to make more contact or put ur arm round her, does she step back if you step closer, does she let you put ur hand on her, is she putting her hands on you, is she laughing or smiling at complete shit ur saying. Doesn't have to be all this, but helps a lot to have some.
OP, what do if my girlfriend kind of split with me, sometimes she acts super nice and loves me does all that nice shit, sometimes she's super sarcastic and nasty and acts like a bitch. What do I do when she acts like a bitch? How do I get the upper hand because she always ends up in control
>>583568184 She is weighing her options. A lot of girls like to have a guy that is plan B. Maybe her and her bf relationship is going down hill. Maybe she just isn't as happy with him or just bored. She just wants you on stand-by if her relationship goes south. Either that or she is a whore and bored with bf fucking her and wants some new dick.
>>583567219 Another trick: obvious lies. Don't waste time with boring and obvious truth that reduces your mystery. she asks what you do for a living, you answer something like "astronaut", assassin, time traveler, porn star ...
Don't have to go over the top with it, but make her laugh, maintain a little bit of mystery.
Turn the tables, make her want you more. act more mysterious. Don't chaneg too much, if you change too much she'll realise and think you're cheating etc. With long term relationships if she thinks you're cheating you're pretty much fucked and it's going to mess up the entire relationship.
tl;dr: don't give her as much time, make her chase you and give you what you want. You want to spunk in her arse, make her let you. You want to slap her and bite her - make her let you.
>>583568516 You have to take control even if it's with simple stuff at first like what movies you watch, where you eat, what you do together. Baby steps bc if you go in there like a giant asshole it will just be a turn off. Just be more assertive and she will start to like it.
>>583567549 yea, that's it - practice. Even talk to ppl more in non-pickup situations. makes you better at relating, and if you are open an confident with talking to everyone, it make you look more alpha with girls cause you will actually be a little more alpha
>>583569101 For this i always say i'm a janitor. I read it in Roush V's book on picking up girls when I started to learn the game. Honestly, i dress like a total rich twat, with designer items, expensive watch etc (I have a good job) - Saying i'm a janitor throws them. when they ask why - Say i love seeing the kids happy that their school is so clean. She'll laugh and call you out on it or just agree with you and continue on from there. Most the time she will know it's a lie - but that's te mystery ehy!!!
Nice thread OP. You seem to know what you're talking about, and it gives me a bit of confidence reading your tips.
I feel like I'm too beta to get with girls atm. I am kind of shy (though I have worked on my shyness over the past months. Trust me, it used to be awful not too long ago), and I'm also overweight. Not obese, but enough to make me feel like I'm never going to get a girl. However, I'm working on my weight and hopefully I will become fit one day. Strangely though, I've caught girls looking at me while being at different places. For instance, I was at the store yesterday, and there was this cute girl who I made eye-contact with several times. Also, another girl looked me in the eyes and smiled at me one day (I only smiled back, thinking she was just being nice or something). Do these things mean anything?
>>583569101 >you answer something like "astronaut", assassin, time traveler, porn star ... Jesus, I had almost forgot that being a PUA is about doing cringey douchey things that still work often enough.
>>583569558 No problem. That's the way to think. Sometimes if you don't text back a bit you'll find that they will become single all of a sudden if she's into you enough and doesn't want to lose her plan b. Hell if you're friends with her on fb or something even post about going on a date with a girl near her level.
>>583570164 Read books on picking up. Roush V Rules of the Game, etc etc
I assume that's what most of you guys here do.
Otherwise move to:
Pick up uglies, seriously. It's a minor confidence boost. We all play games here, imagine farming low levels in an MMO, eventually you level up, get harder things to kill etc. Exchange mobs/minions with girls. start with the uglies that're "Easy" to pull, move up to the harder ones.
Pro tip - If you can go to a club with a bunch of girls and a couple of guys, position yourself with the girls. Chat with them, it'll make all the others want you - Jealousy is strong in clubs.
saved this list from a similar thread a while back:
-statements make educated guesses and are far more engaging -effective language = speaking with fewest words possible while still maintaining your meaning and intent -women do not see features they see how you present yourself -women do not hear words they hear your intentions -talk louder, then louder than that -always make people break eye contact with you before you break it with them -when engaging in conversation, suppress the urge until its your turn (one-up-ing) -lean back -do not lean forward -watch others -do not put head down -pause, relax and slow down -do not laugh at things you do not find funny -take up more space -stop approval seeking -my boundary/frame is established, eg. “I value honesty, curiosity, education, intelligence and authenticity, etc.” -keep your approval, keep your power -project self-image and beliefs -honest signals to practice -do not stare, moral looking time -dominant and confident posture and walk -slower than usual movements and gestures -be conscious of your body language until it becomes unconscious -allow her to orient her body to you -tone of voice, “hey what up” -rub a girls back while hugging, do not pat -physical escalation -eye contact -verbal contact -hand to arm -hand to shoulder -shoulder to hip -hip to leg -face to face -mouth to mouth
> cont'd -things to talk about -F.O.R.D (good things to talk about) -Family, Occupation, Recreation and Dreams -R.A.P.E (would not recommend using these as talking points) -Religion, Abortion, Politics and Economics -the inflection of your voice, do your statements sound like questions?
-be aware of the strength you finish your sentences with, some people trail off when they do not think others are listening -ignore her beauty -keep your eyes at normal resting size, if not a little bit tighter than usual -while making eye contact do not over focus on one eye, move back and forth, find your rhythm - EDIT May 11 2014 - Since writing this I have noticed when moving back and forth it can come off as reactive, attention seeking and needy, use with caution -soften your gaze to the point you can comfortably see both eyes without focusing on either one -smile big with your whole face, like you just saw your best friend for the first time in a year -breath from your belly -before an act or action we need oxygen as fuel -draw air into the bottom portion of your lungs before the chest muscles expand and draw further air into the upper portion -funny shit-test responses to “do you play video games?” -“no I use mature media modules” -“no I dabble in adult entertainment simulations”
>>583570583 Extra points for the farming comparison, finally someone speaks tha language I understand :) Also, I can't even get ugly chicks. I'm ugly as shit and not really fit, even though I'm not super fat
> cont'd -quotes -“No persons time, attention or companionship is more valuable than your own.” -“You cannot allow your ego to become attracted to receiving specific reactions and responses from people.” -“What you make yourself to be is a choice. What happens to you as a result of what you are, is not.” -“Whatever it is you are feeling is a perfect reflection of what is in the process of becoming.” -“Confidence is the reward for being Courageous.” -“Men have approach anxiety and women have last-minute-resistance anxiety.” -have preferences to create your identity -if a guy is looking your girl up-and-down -“Chief, eyes on your own paper.” -keep moving on, but preserve what works
>>583569429 From personal experience: do not engage. When she is aggressive towards you, just step back, say something that you see she`s not in a mood, politely say goodbye and go home. If you live together it`s harder, but still doable in similar manner. Engaging leads to escalating, escalating leads to even more escalating and this leads to Yoda. Another option is ignoring the bitching and sarcasm and saying something like "would you like some tea? I`m making some for myself".
>>583570228 in fact, i am... sounds like a good idea. guess i should overcome my shyness somehow and go on some dates. man, how did i get here?! back in high school i fingerfucked the hottest chick in class, now i can't even get laid
Hey /b/ros, let me share how I get laid pretty much every date I go on.
Meet the girl. If you approach her in real life, comment on something about her and tell her you thought she was interesting and you had to say hi. Figure out what she's into and try to get a number. Once you get a number, set up a date. This goes the same for online dating such as okcupid or Tinder. Set up a meeting within the first five texts or so, don't get sucked into text convo or else you're screwed. I won't go too much into getting the date, so here's the date plan:
Step 1.) Have her meet you somewhere close to your house. There's a coffee place a block away I use to meet girls, plus I know people there so I have social proof, showing her I'm popular or at least social.
Step 2.) When you meet her, never shake her hand, always go for a hug bc it shows you're comfortable with physicality early on. Set that standard.
Step 3.) Use meeting location to: Talk about the basic interview shit (work, school, family, hobbies, etc.)for no more than like five minutes. I use the question game:
1, you ask question/i ask one 2.) have to tell the truth, like truth or dare "because I don't know how weird you really are" (usually gets her laughing) 4.) have to ask questions that let skeletons out of the closet. Take advantage of the fact that you dont know my friends/I don't know yours, etc. 5.) you go first! - my first question is always "how many serious boyfriends have you had?" because you want to insert romance in her head quickly. Avoid "friend vibes" always
Step 4.) Use question game to figure out deep stuff about her (what are you truly passionate about?) Slowly move to sexual questions: (biggest turn-on? Craziest thing you've done in bed?) If she goes along with it, you know she's hooked. PS: ALWAYS make eye contact when asking questions. Never break contact first. If you see her eyes scanning around your face, you know she's thinking about kissing you/attracted to you.
>>583570916 Thought it would help a lot of you. Erm, there's always girls you can get. If you imagine leagues (I'll continue with the WoW reference for the sake of it) of people. You maybe in the bottom one by your own standards, bfind false confidence through what you do and what you're good at - make it seem you're in a higher league. Ie) You might be ranked 1500 in 3v3, bullshit and say your main is 1850 (I think that was the achievement above it when i played). It's quite miraculous how it works, just make yourself appear better - but not too much better arrogance kills.
>>583568456 Current popular music is the safest. Girls like to dance and they keep up with the latest shit. If you have eccentric taste, look at it as a con unless you know she's into it. Music doesn't have to be involved and if you get her head over heels she won't really give a shit if one day you pull out bluegrass. She might even pretend to be into it. You should refrain from having shitty taste though.
>>583569847 Yeah, they're kind of shitting up the thread. It's not about being a PUA. That's the approach which I've neglected to cover.
>>583571608 Haha I had to learn the hard way. I was the unobtainable guy dating his hs sweetheart my whole time in hs. This worked for me at first when we broke up until it wore off then I had to get some game.
>>583537692 OP dunno if you're still around but I need some anon advice here.
Been dating a girl for almost a year now. She's really nice (she's had a pretty rough past with anxiety), but we're both pretty young and she keeps talking about "forever". Fuck, I don't even know what I'm doing for sure next year and I sure as hell don't know what forever will look like. I'm going away to uni next year (I took a few years in between) and she is worried about what will happen. To be honest, I'm not sure if I want to stick around in the relationship. She's fun, but we have very different interests and hobbies, not to mention we want different lifestyles and different locations. She's going away all summer and I don't know what I should do. We spoke about it once and it ended up with tears on both sides, but I honestly could not say I want forever with her.
I enjoy her company but she doesn't have any friends except me. I wish that wasn't true and I'm trying my damnest to make it not true, but that's the situation. I feel like I can't break up with her because of her lack of friends. And her parents are pretty generous to me. I wish I could tl;dr this but I don't think I can sum it all up just like that. I'm just at a loss....
>>583537692 Anon, first of all your a pure genius, i know all these things work as i have used them for prettymuch all my life (more or less ofc) although i have gotten to i point where i have this problem. My ex and i where togheter for about 2.5 years, i know she's about 8 or 9/10, a little above my league. And recently i broke up with her because i felt like she held me back in some totally different areas and also she kept letting others hit hon her and i felt it was time to cut the crap.. So the problem is that i feel like i should need to backtrack to like 6's and 5's maybe, to get me going. So i have done that and i have sedused a number of girl. But in the final moment i just can't seem to tie the bag togheter into actully meeting up with the almost certain fuck. idk if its because they are not as attractive as my ex's or if i havent moved on from her. So i ask you, should i just get it over with and fuck around and let that "make" me get over her or what the fuck shall i do?
>>583571980 I'm 6ft 1 and have a receeding hairline. I'm 20 and constantly pick up 7-10/10s. Who gives a fuck if you're balding. Find a hairstyle that works with it. Or just go bald and get hench - worked for my 23 year old mate.
>> all (I'm going to brb for 20mins, i'll continue to pick up slack on PUA/Online Situations and Picking up in clubs when i'm back) -> i will be back don't worry!!!
>>583570914 >-the inflection of your voice, do your statements sound like questions? Reminds me of a girl I dated that was hyerbeta, hyper submissive and her every statement went up at the end, sounded like a question.
She wasn't attractive or popular and ppl wondered why I was with her. But there was something about her submissiveness that was an amazing turn on. I was too young and stupid to take horrible advantage of it, but I did have her suck my dick all the time. But if I could do it over ... wow
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