I normally think people like you are fags, but holy shit the level of cancer that has creeped into this game over the years is unbelievable, and somehow everything they've done with S5 just kind of highlights every fucking malignant tumor.
>>583225324 Playing normal games good job you scrub >>583225458 So stupid every time she autos she stays still for a split second. So easy to kill that champ stupid ult man this thread is full of bronze noobs
>>583225664 >cant get focused cause ga are you stupid? If you go glass canon you still can die so fast. I mained gp in season 3 got myself up To gold with a 70% win rate Cant carry yourself beyond that with gp >>583226039 Leblanc xerath zed riven atm If sup thresh every 1,5 sec a hook if hit to op
>>583226036 Yes but one thing you need as a gangplank is knowing when to get the fuck out of there and warding because he is fairly squishy until he gets his GA, which should probably be your third item
>You are nothing but a whiskey delta. God tier adcarry, good at top level, total stomper at lower elos cuz people play him below plat/diamond rarely and gold silver bronze scrublords dont know how to play against him.
>>583227359 2 1/2 seasons 174 wow so much. shield Q auto W when needed R to finish so hard wow... Only skill i see with riven is not to forget to auto cuz noobs at low elos think all her dmg comes from Q which is wrong.
But then I realized she's not viable for any team composition outside of bronze and picking her is pretty much trying to play solo like you think you're some superhero that carries all games and takes all kills.
I'm sorry to say this but Riven is currently garbage tier. She gets easly countered. She is a meele adc - and if you want to say you can build tanky then ANY other top champ has a better skill set for that.
>>583227670 Oh wow youre so smart. Everyone flames riven to be so easy, but getting threw the early is hard as shit. Mostly because a lot pf champs have nice counter-skill-equip. >>583227720 vanye lucian draven try killing them if they are played well
I'm diamond. It's no better, although it's still better than the shithole that is low gold/high silver where apparently every single player is a diamond smurf, stuck in elo hell, or, worst of all, thinks they're hot shit for being gold.
But no, I mean the game itself is full of garbage from Riot trying to "fix problems" (read: fuck over anything that's even slightly off-meta).
Honestly, though, I feel like a lot of the games issues stem from the brush mechanic and it's far too late to fix all of them.
>>583228120 Yeah i know not saying she is viable, but i love the high risk high reward situation with her just so much fun and i carried myself up to plat with her, further is a no can do though at my skill level
>>583228172 Thats the problem with her, like she either stomps or gets rekd and as someone said she is almost like a meele adc, missing the wall of the team hurts most team comps, unless you carry you are the cancer with riven. I rather have irelia top then if you want something carry-ish from top.
>>583228034 Corki can peace out but if wither is applied then ghost nasus can fuck his shit up given a 1 v 1 scenario and corki isn't hugging a tower. Tristana can ult out yeah but then you wouldn't just jump in a 1 v 1 you would wait for team fight and just jump on her given the chance. If nothing else she is out of the fight or desperately focusing the tank.
Vayne, Lucian and Kalista are the only ADC's I have any problems with, they have too short a cooldown on their leaps and vaults and can endlessly kite.
>>583229229 I see champs played to perfection often enough riven is one of them, that if you know how to play her you can do so much more than with other champs just like vayne fizz and so on fking pleb really
>>583229960 Well you get tenacity and have to be smart about going in, flash doesnt really help much. Ghost brings a lot more utility for split push too where nasus really shines. With flash you have an escape sure, but it cant be used agresive, like what you gonna do flash Q ? I guess its preference but any upper tier player i see play nasus goes ghost.
>>583216789 I've been playing league for a while now, and i just started playing dota 2 and i can objectively say that data is more fun and a better game. also valve cares about you more than fucking riot, those servers gg
>>583230598 Let me guess malz is youre second main top >>583230567 What is proper peel? What is a well played adc? What is worth (if youre stacked) to get in range for 1q? More than getting kited and killed without laying out dmg
>>583230906 Also have played both, cheese is to real in dota, rikki players, that bullspiritdude that charges across map sniper, antimage just annoying. Less poking in lane too, turn rate is cancer..But eh preference is preference
Overloaded kits (good god the overloaded kits), bandaid fixes, lack of fucking prioritizing on actually improving the game beyond nerfing stuff (better customs? game modes? where the fuck is URF mode, Riot, you know the thing you said you were bringing back and players have actually been excited about? lore team completely gone? bugs sitting around for months or years that never get dealt with as long as they don't interfere with championship play? i could go on quite a while with this...), network issues...
It seems like 100% of Riot's attention has shifted from making a good game to hyping people up about shit that doesn't really matter and stirring interest for LCS or whatever is going on anymore. Somehow I can't help but feel like the company's sale to Tencent had a hand in this. I'd quit if I hadn't realized that I haven't played a game on my own in 8 months.
>>583231717 >>583231717 I was going to go bot adc with her one day, and there was a counter up top. so my friend asked me to got top with her while we sent him mid and heimer bot lane with alistar i think. I messed top lane up pretty bad, just started playing it more and more.
>>583231620 Played the stacking game with a friend got up to 450 by min 20 each game and destroyed the enemy team if youre nasus you stack up till 600 stacks get a teamfight started tp top and push an inhib (or bot depends if you want to have baron controll) if youre ahead anyways then just frontline the team and hit out qs for anyone who gets to close he was veigar because of that the stacking game ive got all champs and know how to play them to some extent
>>583231717 I try to play as much as I can but still not enough, but I've peaked DIA 1 eune, playing eune since ping is lower and I dont see much of a difference between euw and eune. Well I used to main top b4 switching to ad, I liked some squishy tops too, like jax irelia recently gnar ( squishy cuz they kinda build dmg first tri/botrk or smth) but I find it much more beneficial to take smth that has tons of cc, mao is great example, pretty much cant go wrong with him.
>>583232286 Yet you think an ADC can kill a Nasus. I only play premade 5 normals or duo q with Nasus, I can count the amount of times I've died to an ADC on one hand. It's knowing when to go in and where everyone else is. If you play it safe there should hardly ever be a situation where you die to an ADC 1 v 1 if they engage.
>>583231942 Im saying not that it is harder you faggot i said its art. Its so much more fun to play and do plays with riven than with other chars. If you play draven and catch axes its not as nice to play as playing riven getting a full combo off or just outplaying a whole team and ecery champ in this game, if played to perfection is hard as fuck >>583232260 Do it in normals, not in rankeds >>583232332 Na is a little easyer than euw in my opinion
second thats one of the things that makes dota more fun to play, all the heroes are very powerful in their own way, data doesn't nerf champs to the ground like in lol for balance instead they buff everyone. people will always bitch about "cheese' and "wow omg too op" in lol and riot will listen and ruin everyones favorite champ, but in data there is a counter for EVERYTHING! rikki invisibility piss you off? dust of appearance 100 gold make everything visible AND slows, or get a gem of true sight and nothing can be invisible around you, or get a sentry ward. bull spirit charge? black king bar, or get smoke for 150 gold, or the easiest option is to outplay it, as you can see when he charges, just run under turret or next to your team and he's good as dead. sniper and antimage? you need to play more obviously, but my point is the game is better developed and more complex to the point where champs can still feel incredibly powerful and crazy fun to play but there will always be counterplay by the other crazy powerful champs on the other team, which is an environment LoL will never be able to create.
>>583231717 got to gold V after playing for about 8 months but i played ALOT of league, and i still really enjoy league because thats the game most of my friends play but trust me, coming from someone who used to exclusively play league and nothing else, if you take one or two days to just learn dota 2, i swear you'll see what I'm talking about. it's a little more difficult to learn at first, like learning to use the shop and courier, last hitting is a bit harder, but once you have that down, its a moba just like LoL and the mechanics are principally the same, its all about positioning on the map, farm, and teamfights. so yeah seriously try that shit its too fun dude, and also, i used to constantly get bugs plats and dc's in league, as well as always having teammates dc's in ranked and shit because of my toaster computer, and that hasn't happened ONCE while playing dota
>>583233349 Well maybe, I just think lol has sharper more responsive gameplay with a lot more fighting, I never played much dota2 maybe under like 200games total over the years. About gem, well wasnt it like ou can have 1 per team, dust also costs gold and you have to know where he is to use it, range is kinda low. BUt I guess am naby at this game, though I used to love to play spirits, ember spirit my fave / storm spirit secondary. Ember spirit bola Q combo I think was fun to pull off and made you look like a a boss. Oh and on heroes being op in their own way, yeh well, it just got ridiculous sometimes how broken one can get with a single big item, in lol you need core of like 3, in dota you can get one big item and bam gg, I remember getting rekd by a dude that summoned two wolves and turned into one, bkb / and that bash item = opeeh
>>583234150 Ive played it just like HoN witch is even harder, but i like league because of friends and the look of it. Just has grown on me ive been playing less anyway because games numb the feel of achevement and i cant really feel good about a lot of things any more gold 5 isnt really far though
>>583234382 Why are you avoiding the division question? Nasus is like Tryndamere, boring and annoying to play against. By the way so far I've only seen Bronzies want to 1v1 for any reason (been on this since late season 1) so I guess that answers that question.
>>583233102 >and ecery champ in this game, if played to perfection is hard as fuck
Then why the flying fuck should we give a damn about one of the easiest champs to do it with?
>If you play draven and catch axes its not as nice to play as playing riven getting a full combo off or just outplaying a whole team
I get the biggest ego boner when someone realizes what I'm doing at Baron and asks "were you just juggling 3 axes?". Thanks for informing me that landing abilities on a champ with exactly 0 skillshots and hard CC is more satisfying, though, I never would have guessed.
No seriously I never would have. My favorite of what little I play lately is Darius. I don't give a fuck if someone hates because it's easy. It IS relatively easy. Get over it.
They are both fun to play imo. I think thats all that really matters. ones own personal or preference. none of your rationalizations matter one fucking bit, except as to explain why you like one more than the other. But you already established that you like one, and since its an opinion, nobody is inclined to argue that you don't. we don't give a fuck really, so stop trying to tell us why you like one better than the other.
>>583235035 Wallhopping into a fight you just engaged and getting the enemy team ccd until your team arrives and cleans up, if you havent got a penta until then. Riven is hard to teamfight with/ find an oppertunity to engage please just shut up youre talking shit if you say that shes easy. Btw you dont just get fed you need to get feeded early if you want to pull something off late, which is quite hard to accomplish early, because of all the counters
Blitz/Thresh is one of my favorite lanes. You should try Lux/Morg or Malz/Swain sometime. We're trying to figure out how to make something gimmicky work well with Pantheon but you really need either absolutely ridiculous amounts of CC or a lot of easy ranged harass to make a gimmick lane work well anymore.
>>583235697 >Wallhopping into a fight you just engaged and getting the enemy team ccd until your team arrives and cleans up, if you havent got a penta until then.
If you actually just got away with blowing the entirety of your main damage skill attempting to engage on 3-5 people, alone, and don't get instantly blown up as a high-priority and (assumed low-durability) target, you're playing with retards.
But I'll tell you what, I'll humor you: Why is she not easy? If you wanna try hardmode, give me some reasons that DON'T apply to most or all of the other melee champs. As far as I'm concerned, Master Yi is harder to play effectively simply because he doesn't have a load of bullshit and utility attached.
And I have and have played everyone, so, no, I'm not talking out of my ass. Riven is legitimately one of the easiest to play. She's on par with Vlad, Irelia, and Ryze for title of Faceroll King.
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