femanon here. If you're upset that a girl just wants you to provide her your attention, time, assistance, and validation without her providing anything in return (thats called friendship dumbass, which you should be grateful to have) you're a fedora neckbeard virgin who believes in the mythical mysoginist "friendzone."
Well, you did it, OP. You're the straw in my back. I've spent the last month reading about how terrible men are, how we're all woman-hating rapists, and although in my case this is patently untrue, I am now convinced that everybody in the world hates me for the neckbeard virgin I am. I'm going to go jump in the river now, as it is clear that the world will be a better place without me in it.
>>583155739 goddamn i wish this was real and not just terrible bait. Its so fucking hard to find a girl like this. just take my attention and help and use me to get the things you actually want, is that too much to ask? most girls are actually annoyingly considerate and timid
>>583155739 So troll thread aside, I'm going enlighten the targets of your thread, OP. Friendship is a relationship, like any other relationship there is give and take , and expected gain. When you work on a friendship you begin to expect (and rightly so) certain perks. Perks like, favours, trust with secrets, someone to play therapist, someone just to keep you company. To you foolish lads who will reply seriously, consider you are right in being frustrated about "the friendzone" because it is real, and it is a horrible relationship for one party.
TL;DR, your a bad troll OP, and friendzone is real.
>>583155739 Friendship is about giving AND taking, you selfish attention whore.
That's beside the point, anyways. We aren't you're fucking friends, here. We aren't here to give you our attention, time, assistance, or validation. We are here to get something out of it. If you aren't willing to provide what we want from you, then we have no reason at all to provide you with what you want.
I remember a time when I used to be upset at stuff like that and actually thought that it was impossible to be just friends with a girl... but something dawned on me through conversing with so many old couples and my own parents who have been married for 15 years now and that is... The fact that all the best relationships come from friendship, as a hetero-male I have figured out that if you become close enough with any female love is inevitable even if not returned and as a member of the male population we are not entitled to "women", we are privileged to have them in our lives. There is an energy that extends past friendship at a certain point (i.e. giving a girl your attention, making her your best friend, telling her that she looks nice, always being there for her, saying good morning and good night, and perpetually keeping in contact, with zero intention past friendship, is a good way for any girl to really take notice and makes you seem worth her time, and giving a shit all the time may be hard, but honestly it is worth it if you are really interested in connecting with another individual.)
I am currently talking to a girl who has a son, is in the middle of a divorce, and almost has no free time, we barely see each other, but when we do we don't waste time, we bond over just conversing and that is what any male should be content with having with any female.
Femanon fedora's are the worst and I agree the friendzone doesn't exist, but watch where you throw the word misogynist, there are some males who aren't so bad and just feel impatient, and they aren't misogynists... they are just impatient.
We make friends with our provider partners, and get pregnant by our real man partners. We like it when our cuckolds, like you, dote on us. But your nasty dick doesn't get to make babies, you just get to help raise them.
>>583160373 I've been waiting for the right time to post them, I know the pic OP posted has been circulating awhile. I'll probably start a thread and post them once someone rolls 69. Here's another pic of her
>>583160193 LOL NASTY DICK, I didn't even insinuate sex once in the paragraph above nor do I see it as the most important thing in a real relationship.
The ideal girl for me is someone who is my best friend first and my lover second... and if the second thing doesn't occur then I am fine with that because at the end of the day I am actually interacting with someone who gives a shit about my feelings and won't play with me. Sex complicates everything, the world is overpopulated anyway, and I don't mind helping raise a child that isn't mine as long as it means that no harm is ever brought to her or that child ever again because unlike her abusive ex... I give a shit. You don't know shit about what a real man is, and you sure as shit have no clue what intentions any male actually aims for until you actually get to know them.
I could go the rest of my life not fucking a single person and be completely happy, love is more than just reproducing, love is actually caring about someone and standing by them no matter what.
As for doting... I wouldn't go that far. I don't treasure this girl... I just respect her and care, and in general that is just the type of person I am.
I don't want a girl as a friend. When I have a friend that is also a girl it seems like one of us always fall for the other and gets hurt. So I would rather have guy friends and only get close to girls if I am going to date them.
>>583155739 Friendship ? What ?! Nobody is dumb enough to to be in a relationship where he gives everything without anything in return and call that "friendship". Listen you pathetic excuse for a human being, the concept of friendship is of a relationship between equals who will support each other no matter what. I'm talking about genuine friendship here, a loving relationship implies a higher level of mutual affection, that's all.
If a guy wants you to return the attention he has given to you it's FUCKING NORMAL. If he likes you, or even love you, he will want this attention back in both cases. Why ? Because he's a human being with social needs, and he expects the person he has decided to trust to support him the way he did. If what you consider your "friends" are just people blindly sacrificing their lifes for you while you look down on them, either they're incredibly stupid, or you're the perfect modern slavemaker. In both cases, you're full of shit.
How the HELL should I be thankful for a bitch who wouldn't answer me back when I say "Hello" ? Or wouldn't even consider paying a birthday gift after I did ? You literally said that your "friend" should do everything for you and you wouldn't rise a finger in return. And you're not even seeing what's wrong with it ! Are you so full of this feminist shit that you think you are entitled with attention and affection ? You have to deserve it, just like these poor guys you're playing with.
You're a good boy. So long as you keep throwing the money at us and stay in your place while we pretend to like you back while riding real man cock of course I have nothing to say. Good boy. You're such a good boy.
I just tricked this pathetic man into the friendzone.
I'm a little disappointed at how easy it was. I like a challenge and this one was like putty in my hands. He tried to do the nice guy routine, pretending he didn't want to have sex with me, which really turned me off. Its disingenuous, dishonest and obvious. So I flipped the script on him. If he was going to be fake with me by hiding his true intentions and try to trick me into a relationship, why shouldn't I be fake with him so that I can exploit him for emotional support?
I told him I just wanted to be friends. He said he was fine with that (I still laugh with my girlfriends when I mimic the facial expression he made). Then I waited. After about a two weeks of us talking about my sex life with other men in Facebook chat, I invited him to come over and drink beers with me at my place. I had invited some other guys (who had girlfriends, some of them there, or were genuinely good friends) over and they were already there when he got there. After he arrived, I put on some music and started dancing seductively while constantly staring at him. I ignored the other guys in the room and I treated him like a king. I constantly brought him beers when the one he was drinking was empty. I sat in his lap and touched him a lot. I laughed at all his jokes. Basically, I gave his ego a hand job.
I repeated this process two more times, and by the third, he made a move on me. I shot him down of course, which was the plan all along, feigned surprise at his sexual attraction to me and apologized for giving him mixed signals. He accepted my apology and left. Now he goes shopping with me, always answers the phone when I need some advice, helps me repair my car, and buys me flowers from time to time. He's a good little beta boy, who knows exactly how to please me. He's my pathetic little emotional tampon.
>>583155739 friendship (without sex) between a man and a woman is possible, if the woman can contribute to it with her intellect, knowledge, skills and reason. Unfortunately vast majority of women do not have these attributes but demand attention on the sole base of being a woman. Which behavior we observe here. tl, dr: it`s not a friendship if you don`t give anything but still demand attention. Now tits or GTFO.
>>583163063 >>583163140 >take pride in humiliating men and using their genuine affection >whine that men are mysoginists >do everything needed to turn the society into a women-hating world >whine about the mysogenistic society topkek
>>583163525 Sorry, I don't remember doing anything wrong toward a woman in my entire life. Except calling you a bitch, but since you insist on showing how inhuman you are, I guess calling you a woman would be too good for you.
>>583163140 And the stupid cunts don't understand why we don't want to be friends with them. Because they they have no reason or even a soul. It is all just their Idea of fun. To fuck over someone they call friend. With friends like that you should be very careful around them. They will fuck you over in a blink of the eye.. Bitches are good for 2 things, 3 if they take it in the ass. Friends. Implies that we like you. That is not going to happen. Evolutionary forces gave you tits and a cunt just so men would even look at you.
I had a roommate once who met this English major. Oh she was into her goddamned poetry and musicals. Well he wanted to fuck her. She told him no, friends, la la la. He was like, "OK, no fuck?" And she confirmed no.
So next time I saw her (we lived and worked in a remote location like a village of people working at the same company and saw one another a lot) she told me on him. Says she came to visit him more recently, wanted to read poetry with him. He refused. She thought he was mad she would not have sex with him. He told her, "No, I am not mad. It's just that I want sex, and if you are not going to provide sex, you are useless to me."
LOL @ the butt hurt he got the upper hand back. He fucked a lot of other girls, so he did not give a shit.
>>583163063 I've been talking to this girl for a month now... I can't imagine her going out to ride a real man.... She has a son, two jobs, and lives with her family. You have no clue what you are even speaking to situationally, I am so done femanon, no need to justify myself anymore.
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