I used to work for drug smugglers in Miami. Ask me anything.

Did you work for drug smugglers in Miami?

>>582837068
Si

What exactly did you do? Did you help smuggle the drugs or deal them?

>>582837432
I worked on the boats, and did misc. jobs. I never directly dealt with the drugs.

Mostly I worked on Cigarette boats.

>>582836781

Was this in Miami?

>>582837587
Well, sort of. Boats were worked on in Miami. Drugs normally came into North Miami or the Keys. Haulover cut was popular for a time.

>>582836781
Did drug smugglers really have crackwhores willing do do whatever for their fix?

>>582836781

Was it drugs you were smuggling?

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>>582836781
did you live in Miami or commute to work?

why you quit the job?

>>582836781
you mean you were a mule

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What kind of boat did you use? How big, (waterline length) what was your usual route?

>>582836781
How much did you get paid?

>>582836781
Were the drug smugglers located in downtown Miami, or the greater Miami metropolitan area?

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>>582836781

are you also CIA?

Were there any cows and did you use a crane to get them on the boat?

>>582837785
Sort of. They had groupies for sure. It kinda came with 'cocaine culture.'

>>582837832
At first marijuana, but, later cocaine because it was so much more profitable and marijuana was getting brought in other ways.

>>582837950
Lived in Miami

>>582837970
I went to college, actually.

>>582838042
No, a mechanic.

>>582838052
Generally Cigarette boats, sometimes another brand called Apache.

Usual route for the boats was to just be a pickup from outside the cut. A helicopter would come in, drop the drugs, and then a the drugs would be run into cuts. Often multiple were used, some were dummies.

PC or console?

>>582836781
Did you also work in Miami, or were the smugglers located in Miami and you worked elsewhere?

>>582836781
what's your name?
who did you work for?
whats your current address?
Do you have firearms or drugs in your house?
can I come over?

>>582838357
What cut?

>>582838604
Fbi pls

>>582838208
I got paid well, but, not insane. I actually don't remember the rate. I got lots of bonuses too (bag o' cash).

>>582838528
Yeah, I worked in Miami. There are warehouse districts that were good for working on boats. Now they are really expensive condos.

>>582838604
Haulover was by far the most popular. It's in North Miami. There was a dock right there to unload. Later the FBI had a stakeout place in a condo building that later was torn down (old age).

>>582838852
is there something you regret from that period?

>>582838852
I grew up in key largo. Never found a square grouper or anything like that although. Do you know if the smugglers ran any psychedelics?

>>582837139
are you a filthy immigrant?.

>>582838572

>who did you work for?
The big boss was a guy named Ben Kramer. He's in jail now for life. I rarely spoke to him.

>Do you have firearms or drugs in your house?
firearms, just herb

>>582839096
I was a kid, and kinda lost. I don't really regret it. I really enjoyed working on the boats, actually.

>>582839190
Nah, no psychedelics. Only marijuana and cocaine. Mostly cocaine.

>>582839303
Nope, 100% white boy.

>>582839409
what drugs did you take yourself, if any?

>>582839602
I smoked weed. I did a little cocaine but was too anxious for it. Probably for the best. Lots of my friends used cocaine though... lots of cocaine.

>>582839409
How much was a typical boat cargo worth?

Do you know what they didnt run any psychedelics?

I take it you got in trouble somehow?

>>582839409
Kramer is old school. This must have been more than 20 years ago? What do you do now?

>>582839860
why they didnt*

>>582836781
how much coke can you get in your pussy?

Does OP happen to know a friend of mine by the name of Tony Montana?

>>582839860
>How much was a typical boat cargo worth?
It really depended. And it was pure cocaine, they'd cut it after it hit the shore (well, some 'blue label' did get out that was pure cocaine, sold at a higher price). Easily over 5 million dollars per boat though. Lots of times they'd talk about it, but you didn't know if it was exaggerations or not. It was serious money though.

>Do you know what they didnt run any psychedelics?
Cocaine was the highest demand for the times and Miami is a good location to bring it into the country from South America. Psychedelics I honestly don't know how those came about..

>I take it you got in trouble somehow?
I did once, I was making fiberglass silencers. I didn't go to jail.

>>582839986
I'm a mechanical engineer now. After doing that job I got a scholarship to go to college.

>>582840238
You'd be surprised.

>>582836781
Were the drug smugglers pleasant to be around?

Peace to all good people of the streets i was into drug biz. now Im software dev. That's funny, i enjoy this life... thousand of kilometers on highways, seas mountains fuck... Big up from Europe!

I found you are smart ass boyyyyy

>>582840653
Not at all. They were violent and dangerous. Sometimes reckless too.

Long hair and ponnie tails were big. That meant you were a smuggler, if you wanted to be a loud mouth about it (some were)

>>582840541
what was the biggest fuck up you experienced, what were the consequences?

>>582840381
is that five million street prices or the price it sold for at the dock? you know how the feds do all the idiotic math to blow up values.

Do you think it would be too unreasonable for a smuggler to purchase psychedelics in international waters? I dont know if you have heard of William Pickard, but he made rather amazing amounts of LSD until he was busted. AFAIK the current supply of LSD is pretty low, mostly replaced by other, worse analogues. The nice thing about it compared to other drugs is the extremely low doses, making transport so easy.

Would it be impossible to find someone to sell to?

>>582836781
Stfu you just watched a fucking documentary. Show some proof of you living in Miami or working on said boats.

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Balitc!

Do you know any hit-men?

>>582836781
What year(s) was this and how old were you?

>>582836781
how did you start out

>>582841080
We were making fiberglass silencers. These cheap silencers that only worked like 3 times before they were blown out. Building got raided, I was brought in for questioning.

>>582841123
> is that five million street prices or the price it sold for at the dock? you know how the feds do all the idiotic math to blow up values.
Wholesale... be more on the street, much more. Yeah, the total values of shipments I never knew.. I always got it third hand so can't confirm. A lot though.

> Do you think it would be too unreasonable for a smuggler to purchase psychedelics in international waters?
I'm really not sure about that. I've never heard of it, but, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Especially today I'm way out of it... things are probably different now.

>>582841390
No, but I know enforcers. People who collected money. Hit men were normally from the crime families in Chicago or New York.

>>582841618
I was 16. It was in the 80s. I'm the oldest man on /b/ ... a younger guy I work with said I should come on here.

>>582841843
I was working in the auto shop in North Miami High School ... I was pretty handy, so someone asked me if I'd like to work at a boat shop. I said yes.

>>582841051
Wow, no wonder you stopped working for them. Never thought drug dealers would actually be psychotic themselves.

Know any good bars in Chicago to buy decent quality cocaine?

>>582842360
It took a certain personality type to be the 'big man.' They were true sociopaths, I believe.

When they started the war on drugs, the punishment for smuggling went way up. So all the mom and pop shops kinda stopped and it became the big risk takers. Of course it also meant more money for them.

>>582842218
How difficult would it be to at least get in contact with medium-high level leadership? Are they totally secluded?

How did you get to working on boat engines? Just working on cars?

>>582842218
>>582842697
nvm I just say the last line. Was the pay as good as the risk?

Whats your most fucked up story about a smuggler?

>>582842595
Nah, haha. I love Chicago though. I always say a guy from New York will say he's going to kick your ass, a guy from Chicago will just kick your ass.

>>582842697
>How difficult would it be to at least get in contact with medium-high level leadership? Are they totally secluded?
Yeah, pretty secluded unless you knew them socially.

>How did you get to working on boat engines? Just working on cars?
The big block boat engines were marinized big block Chevy's...so if you could work on a standard car engine, you could work on a boat. It stayed that way for a while. Of course there was a learning curve with the headers, driveshafts, and other components.

>>582842846
Well for me it was pretty low risk since I was just a mechanic. But, I'd say a lot of smugglers got away with it and are now super wealthy, so yeah.

>>582836781
How much for a kilo?

>>582842948
Probably this guy that was a pilot. He used to fly down to Columbia to get cocaine, but also had a cocaine problem himself. He was also eating lots of rich food, so always had that "gaught" (not sure how to spell it). Flying he was shot at by the Cuban government and crash landed, barely making it, to the keys. He stole a car and loaded the coke into it and, despite losing the plane, lost none of the drugs.

>>582843192
In my day it was like 25-30,000 USD. Now I have no idea.. more though. Now that 25-30k was wholesale, once it was cut it would be worth a whole lot more.

>>582843737
Thats an amazing story. Did he get caught?
BTW its gout.

Great thread thanks for it

>>582843737
Sounds like youve lived some life, if any of its true that is.

Were you ever shot at? Or was it mostly like a pretty sweet job with nice pay for you?

awesome thread how much did you make in an hour? how long did you work there?

>>582843969
>Thats an amazing story. Did he get caught?
Nope! He abandoned the plane, it was in a marsh in the middle of no where and no one must have seen. It was a 'controlled' crash.

He eventually did go to prison, but for something different. He served 15 years, I think because he refused to rat on his boss. If he would have ratted, they would have killed him in prison though. He stills lives in Miami, he's clean now, has two kids.

>BTW its gout.
>Great thread thanks for it
Thanks, no problem!

>>582844281
>Were you ever shot at?
Only by some niggers, never over drugs though. I was just working as a mechanic/shop guy, so, wasn't really at risk for being caught up in that violence.

>Or was it mostly like a pretty sweet job with nice pay for you?
Yeah, it was good. I mean, day to day it was pretty normal work.

>>582844515
> awesome thread how much did you make in an hour? how long did you work there?
I worked there from when I was ~15 until 19, when I got into college. That's when I stopped. I didn't want to make it a career, was mostly just because I was broke and needed to save money. Actually not sure what it worked out per hour, because I'd be given a bag of cash around the holidays and such. Officially I made minimum wage. They couldn't really have me making much "officially" because then they'd have to explain where that money came from, so, everything was kinda "here is a bag of cash" I made enough over the 4 years to help pay for my college and living expenses when I went, so, that was huge.

great thread OP

Whats the hot spot in key west or the other keys?
I just moved down there from chicago

Did anybody else know that you worked for drug smugglers at the time?

>>582843737
its like 15-20 for 36 now, i usually pay 17

>>582846107
Glad you like it! I don't get to share this stuff with many people. Not for legal reasons, but rather it sorta makes me look like a bad guy... so, this is actually nice to revisit.

>>582846212
>Whats the hot spot in key west or the other keys?
Hot spot? Like for drug running? Today I'm not sure, I think drugs are brought in much differently then when I was around, although I still see some suspicious boats as I've got an eye for it.

Sometimes the keys were used, but ideally you wanted a higher traffic area. North Miami was by far the most popular that I knew of. Check out Haulover cut in North Miami... it's between the bridges at 162nd and 123rd.

>>582846689
No, I kept it pretty quiet. I was an anxious, paranoid, nervous kid. I just said I worked at a boat shop, which was true. No one really asked beyond that.

>>582846992
For 36 grams? Makes sense, a lot of that is inflation. Still must be extremely profitable.

Can we see your ass

>>582846992
17k per K is what I was quoted in the late 90s. I stuck with buying it by the ounce though.

>>582847897
Ah, okay. Then how much do you cut it before reselling?

>>582847262
>grams
fuck no, ounces
>>582847897
for profit or personal use?

>>582848442
Profit.

>>582842218
>I was 16. It was in the 80s. I'm the oldest man on /b/
I was 16 in the 70s, so.

OP- Was this Miami, Florida in the USA?

>>582848810
>OP- Was this Miami, Florida in the USA?
Yes.

What drugs have you done OP? What's your fav?

>>582848973
Am I going to see you at art basel this weekend when i trip acid in wynwood?

>>582848598
save up, thats how i did it, when you buy in ounces its usually already cut so im assuming crack?

>>582849581
I've done marijuana, cocaine, benzodiazepines, ketamine, heroin, lsd, peyote, mushrooms.

I'd say marijuana is my favorite. I still spark a joint now and again. The other stuff I mostly just tried, although benzodiazepines I was on for a while (don't do that crap).

>>582849675
Hah, no, but sounds like a good plan.

>>582849789
I was just curious hah! thanks for the info.

>>582850447
i didnt even read the ID i thought you >>582848598
were >>582847897

Enjoying your stay here at /b/? Its one of these threads i will remember. Thanks for sharing your story

>>582850447
My friend is on benzos. He hates it. What's your favorite out of the harder stuff?

>>582850601
Yes. A younger guy I worked with showed it to me and encouraged this thread. I like all the crazy stuff on here. My personality seems to go toward it (vouyerism, I guess).

>>582850668
Yeah, the problem with benzodiazepines is getting off them. They work great though, I became an accidental addict on them trying to treat anxiety.

> What's your favorite out of the harder stuff?
A nurse I was dating convinced me to try ketamine with an IV. I did it a few times... best thing I never want to do again.

>>582851153
Better than heroin?

>>582851153
Ket is something I've done twice. It was great, but Heroin is my catch. Been something I've relapsed to many times.

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>>582851153
What gun did you typically carry?

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4chan ask me > leddit ama

>>582851408
Yes. Heroin was, well, amazing.. but, for me it mostly just turned the voices off in my head. I was a little too cool on it, and, that drove me away. Ketamine I had these amazing experiences floating above my body.. was very introspective.

>>582851564
Yeah, lots of people like heroin. Some it knocks out, but, if it doesn't knock you out it can be a really nice drug. Obviously dangerous, but, you know that.

>>582851598
I carried a Smith & Wesson .45ACP revolver. Now I carry an H&K USP Compact Tactical .45ACP.

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Drugs are bad for you

I have some old lorazapam laying around, any good recreational use for this or will it just make me fall asleep?

>>582852080
Glad you realized that a .45 ACP revolver is hilariously stupid. Those drugs must have messed with your head.

>>582852295
Benzos some people find recreational, I think most people just self-medicate with them though (that's what I was doing). If you feel anxiety, it'll take that all away. I get nervous in social situations, so, they became my buddy.

If you take too much you'll probably just pass out, depends on your tolerance. There is some cross tolerance with alcohol also, so, careful with that.

How I got introduced to them was people used them after cocaine to even themselves out.

>>582852721
Yeah, hah. Well part of the thing was around salt water a lot of semi-automatics were a problem, even if you were good about cleaning them (which, I probably wasn't), so you wanted a wheel gun. Now the semi-autos are much better than they were. The H&K is mostly plastic and it's gotten wet plenty and never had any problems.

>>582852721
>>582852983
even the salt air would mess up a lot of semi-autos (and still will today). Just the breeze would be a problem.

>>582853262
Huh. I guess Hollywood and TV made me associate the S&W Model 59 with drug smuggling from the 80s.

Aka OP just watched Cocaine Cowboys

have you ever get laid with those cochead customers/bitches&homeless cocheads?

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>>582852080
hows the recoil on the USP ive been want to get a high cap .45 and the USP and FNX .45 are on my list
>pic related the gun i trust my life with everyday

>>582853487
Yeah. I was a little different though since I was always hopping in and out of boats... so the elements were more of a problem.

Custom guns were really popular with the actual smugglers. Like fancy 1911's..

Later the most popular gun was called an Intra-Tec 9 (not sure on spelling). They were cheap and kinda shitty, but people liked them because they could be modified into an automatic easily. I was gone by that time though.

>>582853834
I have watched that. It's actually got some pretty good information. It's a little isolated from the big picture for them to make the story fit in however long though.

>>582854198
Nah, I was just a kid working at a boat shop. I didn't even have a girlfriend at the time.

>>582853262

I want to truck cigarettes from my home state (VA) to NY. If you were in my shoes how the fuck would you go about finding a buyer for a truckload of ciggies in NY without someone cutting off your balls or turning you over to the cops?

>words

>>582854472
It's very controllable - has that gas system that I think helps (the o ring). I usually wear baggy clothing, so the Compact Tactical fits for me... the Tactical full size would be too big.

>>582854536
I have no idea.

Side note: where the name Cigarette came from (like Cigarette Racing Team, originally drug boats) was actually from a sail boat that ran cigarettes and rum in New York during the prohibition.

>>582836781
How do i get in contact with someone and make working with them a career

>>582855976
Doing what? A lot of people that got started in it met in prison or were family. Depends on the time. Like earlier in the marijuana days it was families and such, mom and pop type.

As far as working for them doing something non related to drugs (like a mechanic), it's like any other job. They normally get broke kids like me too that have no family, I noticed. Needing the money, and to some extent, having a place and purpose.

>>582856659
I would like to traffic or do hits