So I have been reading a thread regarding US vs. China. The overall consensus is the US would roll face so I'm steeping it up a notch, let's say you could choose 5 countries to form and alliance and attack the US, which 5 would you chose and what would the realistic outcome be including world economic status thereafter.
Just someone batshit crazy enough willing to die and a few million dollars.
So many things I won't even talk about cause it'll put you on a list.
Just as a for instance though its widely know North Korea's nuke program is designed only to explode over American air space thereby creating a massive EMP from which America would never recover in anyone's life time.
>>582322701 USA would lose if it attacked a shit tier country like mine, Ireland. Occupation wouldn't only be impossible, you should see our history, but Europe wouldn't stand for it. No need for alliances. Just burn the flag, tell everyone we have oil and wait
Why do people still ask these questions, China has a fuck huge army with no way of transferring it to the US or defending it from air attacks. A huge number doesn't mean shit when your vehicles and aircraft are 60 year old copied Soviet designs. NATO would kick ass in Asia, the US, ROK and Japanese navies would sink the puddle pirate navy the Chinese have and Russia would sit by knowing that any move they make would be suicidal to them. The US and Chinese economies would be fucked, the world will be plunged into depression and then nerve gas will start coming out of chem trails causing me to move to bel air.
>>582323669 This is based on the US being the aggressor, how would these 5 succeed in invading? >>582324175 care to go into detail why you picked these 5? how would the world economy change as a result. >>582326780 spending =/= usable resources >>582326786 I'm asking the question because I am curious. Also I didn't mandate that China or Russia have to be used. >>582327075 I agree with this, negating the possibility of a draft/ enlistment, the sheer number of armed civilians/ public servants available for disposal would be incredible.
>>582328930 >This is based on the US being the aggressor, how would these 5 succeed in invading?
There are more guns than there are people, do you have any idea how hard invading south central would be? What do you think the casualty rate for every block would be in Compton, the Bronx, Inglewood, Manhattan, Detroit, Chicago.
The civilians would bleed a military dry every step of the way.
>>582329476 >there are more guns than people Owning a gun does not inherently bestow you the knowledge or experience to use it. A proper soldier could massacre a village, an idiot with a gun would kill a handful, before succumbing themselves.
>>582329476 excellent idea. use the niggers for cannon fodder. > niggerfodder
not to mention the fact that theyd be excellent for guerrilla attacks. you ever see them in a fight? one nigger sucker punches, one nigger hits the dazed opponent from behind and the rest of the baboon troupe jump in and start stomping. > gorilla guerrilla fighters
If all out war was waged, everyone would lose. Period.
The US will never fall to war period. Against Russia, there would either be the US curb stomping the shit out of them, or an all our nuclear war with both sides losing. Same with China, except the US would obliterate them, and Russia would take the opportunity to strike at the US, which would then cause yet again an all out nuclear war.
The US makes up nearly 1/4th of the worlds GDP. The EU (the US's allies) makes up another 1/4th (actually a tad higher).
No force in the world has a chance of beating the US, at least not a 5 nation alliance.
Canada hits them from the north, cube stations tactical assault forces. China and Japan send naval forces across and overwhelm from the east. Russia sends troops to Canada, beef up their forces a bit and hit up Castro like the old days.
It'll be a war of attrition. Fuck knows that the EU will be pissed, but id like to see them try to invade mother russia.
Considering how much trouble 'Murica is having with a bunch of cave dwelling sandniggers, I'd say any country would have a chance at winning.
Like that one training exercise that simulated a battle between US and another country, US has the advantage but because the other country's group used different tactics/etc. they were kicking the US's ass, but Uncle Sam couldn't have that so they changed every rule in the game until the US won like a fucking 10 year old server Admin.
Can't remember what the operation was called but I bet someone else does.
>>582330528 except it isn't really. point and click? boom your hand is gone and so is part of your face. With some minor training, yeah they could be proper fodder, but without it they're just meatshields. which isn't too bad of a use tbh. deplete their bullets, and whatnot.
>>582331374 hey, you see that square button right next to comma? you know it looks like this " . " That's a period. You don't have to type out the word period, if you're going to use periods. makes you look retarded, thus invalidating your point, whatever it may be.
>>582322701 The actual answer is that the US can be nuked or bombed (conventionally) but it can't be invaded. The rest of the world combined simply doesn't have the sealift capacity (Ships to move personnel and equipment) necessary to stage an invasion. The little they do have would be like shooting fish in a barrel for the US. Navy as they tried to cross the oceans.
That's why I still think WWII was a fucking joke. Neither Hitler, Mussolini, nor Hirohito had any desires on the U.S.
Even a batshit crazy meth head like Hitler knew a land invasion of North America would be utter suicide. The rockies, the forests of the pacific northwest the urban landcape of the northern atlantic states. Shit you'd need a billion soldiers to even try to keep a handle on it.
How you gonna get those troops here? The sea isnt going to happen we have more naval power than the rest of the world combined.
Missiles? I guess lets Fallout this shit. Its also worth pointing out that there are multiple missile defense systems on both coasts so it wont be a high saturation rate, but again how will you get close enough?
At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth in their military chests; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in the trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we ourselves must be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. -Abraham Lincoln
>>582322701 china russia and any 3 of uk france germany japan india could probably do the trick, if they are able to fully mobilize their economy for war (US starts with a leg up since so much %GDP goes to military already)
although to be honest if any one of the nuclear powers is willing to just push the button, the war is basically a tie lol
Yeah that's what they call the festering pile of Moose shit.
It was fires, cottage cheese and a packet of mark down powdered brown gravy from the market with like a hundred pounds of salt poured on top.
Then all the Canada fags stood around watching me eat it and I was like what the fuck is wrong with you assholes?
It made me want to kill every Canadian I met for the rest of my life. What kind of sick fucks get off on selling salted human feces to the unwarry? Canadians simply don't deserve to live. Even a fucking Mexican wouldn't shit in a burrito and spice it up and feed it to you. A Mexican has way more pride than that but not a fucking Canadian evidently.
>>582332826 They don't, but improper use leads to self inflicted injuries. I can't find any good videos, but shooting a finger is possible. Not to mention, that proper gun maintenance is a must if you don't want your gun to literally explode in your hands.
>>582336179 > Thinks you can actually airlift enough people and equipment to invade a small country like England, let alone the US.
ROFL. As to the land borders, neither Canada or Mexico has an army that could make it 20 miles across the border before they were destroyed. If they were willing to let their country be used as a staging ground for someone else's military, you're back to the sealift problem.
Usa wins any and all conventional ground war by huge means. The only way we/d get invaded and lose is if a simultaneuous attack from all sides happened. Not possible since any landing fleet is toast 400 miles out. Best geography on the planet for a country.
>>582337447 Do you know the sizes of Canada's and Mexico's army? i'm pretty sure they could go more than 20 miles. As for the sealift problem Russia -> Alaska. Take Alaska, and Invasion by land is possible.
>>582333137 Did you miss the part about not being able to take care of a couple terrorist groups for more than 10 years?
I guess having Uncle Sam's cock in your face conveniently blocked that part of the screen.
America couldn't stand the thought of being shown in a bad light from that 1 simulation, so instead of completing it and maybe fucking learning something from it, they just completely shat on it because everyone needs to know how great america is, and that they can never lose.
Vietnam was a loss, again against a force with vastly inferior tech.
So what if America has nukes? They can't fucking use them or else everyone is fucked, themselves included.
>>582339627 No, they couldn't. I think the problem is that you don't realize the extent of the US military. The US spends more per year on it's military than every other country combined. As for Alaska, again, are you planning to roll the tanks across the Bering Straight?? They'd still have to carried across by ship and they'd still be sunk.
Here's a pop quiz for you - By all objective measures, the US Air Force is the most powerful in the world. Who has the world's 2nd most powerful air force??
Yeah uhm OK. This is kinda embarassing but I actually took the time to look at your posts. In no particular order you are from Texas. Ok you've probably heard the steers and queers remark a few times and cows can't operate a keyboard mmmkay?
You like Poutine. I'll just leave that there.
Then you made a post about military simulation which I dunno yawns I guess. Everyone from Texas is fucking mentally handicapped so it'd be like arguing with a pigeon playing a game of chess. They'd strut and shit on the board and declare themselves a winner.
>>582340067 this is classic europoor logic. look at every engagement america has fought in in the middle east. look at the casualties on both sides in the vietnam war. we didnt achieve our objective because it was achievable. however we absolutely beat the shit out of them whenever they engaged us. the fact of the matter is, you cant fight people who hide behind civilians in this day and age. were they to stand up and fight us as an actual army, they would have gotten their asses handed to them just like desert storm.
>>582325049 We spend only 8% of our GDP on our military and it protects our own country, as well as acting like the UN's pitbull. If we spent Myanmaar-tier amounts on our military (like 22%) then we'd be the only civilization left on the planet.
>>582339759 You guys just changing the subject, don't you? >how about A?!? well there's B. >B?? but how are you going to [email protected]? D. D works just fine. >[email protected]%?# Do you know how retarded that is? First of all how would you E? second of all, they have a bigger F!!
Seriously, you guys can't accept that USA is not impregnable
>>582326780 Our GDP is also higher than that of the next 8 countries combined under us. It's like teasing a homeless person that they don't have as much property insurance as a trillionaire. Pleb countries.
Well this is one of those posts where you are clearly retarded or just trolling. And if you are just trolling you are probably retarded because it isn't even a good troll.
Tons of info has been published online about North Koreas nuclear program as a means to create a massive EMP blast over the U.S.
I'm not going to debate it with you as your are obviously a fuck head and your dad should have pulled out. But if anyone is interested there is this new internet thing called Google and you can look it up.
>>582341926 No, you are the one that keeps throwing out imaginary unworkable things like Magic tanks that appear out of nowhere. The US is not impregnable, you can fire missiles and sneak a few bombers over it and do some serious damage. It IS unable to be invaded successfully.
>Just as a for instance though its widely know North Korea's nuke program is designed only to explode over American air space thereby creating a massive EMP from which America would never recover in anyone's life time.
Not really getting many answers to my question. Canada would be a good country to use because of the size of the land border it shares with the US, that gives it the advantage of being able to attack via land over a large area. With regards to Russia and utilizing the Bering Straight, yes technically it can be utilized as a means of transferring ground forces to North America without having to cross an entire ocean but it bottle necks any force hoping to utilize it. I feel like the US Navy could easily close negate that as a point of attack.
You put out a specific case in which a tank got wrecked by, what I assume were, molotov cocktails. I was referring to THAT SPECIFIC CASE WHICH YOU POSTED, that said tank, could've done some damage, but didn't really try. It seemed, to me, that in that particular case, the tank was more of an intimidation tactic.
I never, I repeat, >NEVER insinuated that doing damage and winning a war were equivalent.
How you even arrived at that conclusion is beyond me.
>>582344838 Again, you miss the point. It wouldn't be a nightmare to get enough tanks there to go the thousands of miles, it would be impossible under current military capabilities. That makes your answer as valid as saying "Lots of people with bigger guns!" True but completely irrelevant since it can't be done.
Realistically Canada would be fighting on the side of the states. The only time they haven't was in iraq or whatever that 'weapons of mass destruction' thing after 9/11 with bush when they never found the weapons.
Of course if they DID go to war the USA would invade.. no way canada would. They would capture toronto and ottawa, some places out west and further east, then get royally fucked by a hardy guerrilla militants and the fucking cold ass winter. You'd also get diserters on both sides as its like cousins fighting cousins, so canada would make sure to not invade so they come off more sympathetic.
>>582322701 >including world economic status thereafter. goes to shit >pinnacle of entertainment is now britbong garbage tier comedy >hostile forces invade Japan, Kuwait, Korea >sand nigger dictator monopolizes oil trade >China is now the target of the world's jealous rage
>>582345468 The answer to your question was, it can't be done. Not with any 5 countries, not with every other country combined. The geographic situation of the US (two large ocean borders, defensible southern border, strong ally to the north whom we would back to prevent anyone from invading their country long before it got to our mutual border) and the sheer size of the US military - particularly, the US Navy
So lets think about this Some of the big problems being raised are the sheer number of people and what would happen if you armed them
but lets take out the middle man
nukes from every direction, targeting all the major US cities fuck it targeting every city with a population over 100,000 you suddenly have a lot less troops if russia france china UK Pakistan deployed all their nuclear weapons at the US then it would be a lot easier to invade no?
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