I've tried this thread several time and have gotten with some great stories, so here it is again.
TL;DR: What is the most-dangerous/violent/crime-ridden city in in the United States? Also, ghetto city stories?
If I had to come up with a list of the most-dangerous cities in America, it'd be something like this:
1.) Detroit, Pontiac, Saginaw, & Flint, Mi 2.) Gary, Indianapolis, & East Chicago, In 3.) Camden, Paterson, Newark, Jersey City, Trenton, & East Orange, NJ 4.) Chicago, Rockford, & East St. Louis, Il 5.) Memphis & Nashville, Tn 6.) Oakland, Stockton, Fresno, & Richmond, Ca 7.) Kansas City, & St. Louis, Mo 8.) Baton Rouge, & New Orleans, La 9.) Cleveland, Cincinnati, Dayton, Akron, & Youngstown, Oh 10.) Baltimore, Md 11.) Mobile, Birmingham, & Prichard, Al 12.) Philadelphia, & Chester, Pa 13.) Birmingham, & Mobile Al 14.) Jackson, Ms 15.) Little Rock, Pine Bluff, & West Memphis, Ar 16.) Atlanta, Ga 17.) Houston, & Dallas, Tx 18.) Wilmington, De 19.) Milwaukee, Wi 20.) Bridgeport, Hartford, & New Haven, Ct 21.) Columbia, SC 22.) Albuquerque, NM 23.) Tulsa, & Oklahoma City, Ok 24.) Buffalo, & Newburgh, NY 25.) Phoenix, & Tucson, Az
There surely are other places deserving of being mentioned, so feel free to mention any places you think should also be included. Obviously, LA and NYC have lots of crime, but the places I listed seem to have particularly violent cultures and a higher per capita-crime rate.
So, what do some of y'all on here say is the most-ghetto/dangerous city in the U.S.? Is it where you live now or are originally from? I live in Arizona, on the outskirts of Phoenix, and there's certainly crime here, but I've tried to keep my ass out of trouble for many years now, so I don't have many good stories to share.
However, I'd like to hear about the place(s) y'all think are the worst of the worst.
> Pic related: A police car from the Oakland Bay Area that was vandalized after the George Zimmerman verdict.
>>581064398 To try to start things off, here's a re-write I did of a story someone posted in a previous thread about getting beaten up in Camden, NJ.
Basically, the story went something like this:
> Mexican kid/guy, about 18, 6'2'' and 200 lbs, fairly muscular, goes to stay with grandmother in Camden > been there for a few days, decides to walk to the store for grandmother, by himself > apparently, a very bad idea > walks inside store, big, older white guy clerk immediately says that he should not be there, that it's not safe for him > Mexican kid/guy walks out of the store after making purchase and is encountered by 3 large, black males walking down the sidewalk > one of the black guys says that one of them dropped their bag of dope and that they saw him pick it up and take it > Mexican kid/guy says he is legitimately frightened, as the 3 black males are huge and don't appear to be fucking around > Mexican kid/guy nervously says that he did not take their drugs and that he did not want any trouble > the 3 black males decide that he deserves to get violently beaten up, so they immediately start to do so > Mexican kid/guy says that the 3 black males all start punching him violently and he falls to the ground and is getting pummeled > while on the ground, one of the black males starts grabbing his fingers and literally starts breaking them, he ends up with 3 fingers broken > while this beating is happening, a cop car pulls up and blares his siren, the 3 black males start walking away, Mexican kid/guy feels like crying, because he is so happy > cop pulls away without even getting out of his car > apparently, in Camden, someone getting jumped by 3 guys was not important enough for the cop to get out of his car and check on the victim
> after that experience, the Mexican kid/guy stated that he did not go out in Camden again before moving back home
> Pic related: A rooftop view in Camden, New Jersey
>>581064646 The guy who originally posted the story that I posted here 581064646 told it in a better fashion than I just did; but, I'm sure you get the gist of what happened.
As for Camden being a really shitty place, in the same thread that the guy shared the story about getting jumped, another person also posted, a white kid (around 16-17, iIrc), and told a story about having gotten lost after driving his parents car home from a concert and ending up in Camden. I don't recall the specifics, but I think he was at a stop sign/stoplight and just got ambushed by someone on the street who smashed through his side window and dragged him out of the car. Ultimately, he said that he ended up getting curbed-stomped and almost died, literally. He said that the only thing that saved his life was some foreign shop-owner running outside with a shotgun and screaming at the people trying to beat him to death. And this happened because he was a white kid driving a nice car through their neighborhood.
I hadn't realized it, but based on lots of posts in previous threads, New Jersey apparently has several absolutely terrible cities in it. Besides Camden, people have claimed that Patterson, East Orange, Trenton, Newark, and Jersey City are all ghetto cities with rampant crime and truly dangerous areas. Overall, though, it seems as though almost everyone agrees that Camden is the worst city in NJ; and, likely, the most-dangerous/fucked-up city on the East Coast. People have compared Camden to a little Detroit. And many people have stated the same thing about Flint, Gary, and East St. Louis.
>>581064483 Is that where you are from/live now? If so, have you been to the Englewood area? From what I gather, it's one of the worst parts of the Chicago area and is where many/most of the shootings occur. Also, got any stories about ChiTown?
>>581065493 What was your business there? How did you respond? What color were these people who questioned you about this? And where were you visiting from? > Again, pic not related: Just another nice, fat ass to post for others to see/save for their collection.
>>581065941 visiting from fairbanks alaska (my current residency) to see my aunt because she had cancer. these niggers come up asking me shit and i told them to fuck off. my buddy had to pull me aside and tell me not to fuck with these people because id get shot where i stand.
While walking home from a friend's place through the loop, some crazy white guy walked up to me and started swinging. No one was around and I moved out of the way before he could hit me. After that I just ran. Some of my other friends have been mugged on the L and one of my friends who lived on the South side was mugged on his doorstep while trying to get his keys out to go inside.>>581064398
Chicago is a great place, but it is FULL of awful people.
>>581064398 I'm from Baltimore. I've been robbed twice our walking. Ran both times because they had a gun. Went to apply for a concealed carry permit because I own a couple of hand guns. State won't issue me one. Fuck maryland
I have no ghetto USA stories but one time I crossed over into Reynosa Mexico to spend a few days with friends, they live in a not so good place. I don't remember the neighborhood but it's right next to some train tracks. But HOLY FUCK. We seriously take everything for granted.
>mfw getting extorted by police >mfw stranger comes up to me and says "we have our eyes on you" (I am Latino but definitely don't look Mexican) >mfw fire fights 2 of the 3 nights. Very loud, probably one or two blocks away. Automatic fire >mfw robbed at knife point by three 13-14 year olds >mfw offered cocaine and weed by little kids
But other than that it as actually pretty cool. The cop and the teenagers I could have gotten out of those situations but honestly didn't ant altercation. The guy that came up to me and said "we're watching you" scared the shit out of me. They probably thought I was up to something like spying and left straight after that
Also in a Guatemala ghetto in Villa Nueva I almost got kidnapped. Not fun anon, not fun at all
Got my ass beat in Guatemala city, a ghetto neighborhood called mesquital for giving food to a dog that was chained up. Poor thing looked like it was starving. Turns out it some gangsters fighting dog and 3 guys beat the shit out of me. I seriously thought they were gonna kill me
Such is life. America is a paradise. Oh and NC has some ghetto parts here in Charlotte. It's all good though, just stay out of the drug world and you'll be ok. Buy weed/coke from whites or hispanics, never niggers
I'll throw in my two cents although many might not agree with me; San Antonio, Tx. There's a whole bunch of kids killing kids here, as well as teenage dealers, drug users, and addicts. You just gotta read between the lines to see it. Another place would be the ghettos of Davenport, Iowa. Doesn't seem likely, but when I was in the car with my mother and 14year old sister, some black dude tried to break open the window and grab her. That part of town was unavoidable and we'd have to drive through it every single day to get to school. Another time there was an all out gang war and we just hauled ass straight through it. Cops were just standing around looking useless because Iowan cops are exactly that.
>be me, 21 year old traveler >sleeping in random doorway with 3 others of similar age >black chick walks up and asks us if we're hungry >fuckyeah.jpg >comes back and brings us all some nice restaurant quality sandwiches >stands and watches us eat >once we're done demands money >offer her some sharpies and like 7$ >not enough, she causes a huge scene >calls over every black guy in the vicinity >says we stole her food >calls cops to arrest us while all these niggers make sure we can't leave >cops take 30 minutes to get DOWNTOWN >I hate cops, but damn, those two escorted us out of there >all the niggers said if they see us in town tomorrow we're gonna get fucked up >caught a ride on a hippy bus north to rainbow >one of the people left behind ended up getting jumped >hates that city more than me >never going back.
>>581064398 Jacksonville, Fl here. Used to have the highest murder rate Per capita. Robbery is a daily occurence. If you havnt been robbed here, you havent lived in the ghetto. Happened to me and a friend at his house caught off guard. Niggers are ignorantly blissful enough to do this once or twice thinking they are big shit until they walk in on the wrong motherfuckers house
>>581065874 I've made about 10-15 of these threads over the past 6 months and I think this is the first time I've seen East Palo Alto mentioned. However, I am certainly not familiar with the area. Where exactly is it? And is it as bad there as it is in places like Richmond, Stockton, Oakland, Compton, Los Angeles?
And I'm truly sorry to hear about your friends. What were the circumstances? Were they gang members? Innocent victims of gang members? Random/spontaneous confrontations?
>>581066181 Where are The Bluffs? I'm not familiar with the place you're referring to. And was it scary/sketchy when there to buy drugs?
>>581066386 Where did you move to/do you live now? I had no idea that ABQ was such a dangerous place, but a guy in a thread about a months ago posted several stories about crazy shit that happened to him in Albuquerque and he made it sound like it's fucking insane there. Got any ABQ stories you'd like to share?
>>581070992 Its in the Penninsula, across the 101 freeway. Shit was mad crazy in the 70s, 80s, and 90s, and was the murder capital of the world for a good while. Its died down a bit but there are still heavy gang violence going on, since the city is split into 3 parts and multiple rival gangs control them. Its mostly niggers and beaners living there, thats why theres so much crime.
>>581066679 You really think that Chester is legitimately worse than Camden? And that the bad parts of Philly are worse than Chester? I have not been to any of these areas, but based on people's comments in previous threads, Camden seems to be universally recognized as one of the absolute worst cities in the United States.
>>581066702 After watching 'The Wire,' Baltimore sure seemed to be a scary place; and based on reading comments from people about B-Mo in previous threads like this, it seems like it's really that fucked-up and violent in reality.
>>581067807 Have you actually spent time in these 5 cities? If so, got any stories as to why you'd rank them in this order?
>>581067978 It seems like Texas has several cities that are crime-ridden and scary. As for Iowa, I'd heard many years back that there is a city there called Waterloo that is pretty fucking gangster. I heard it from a guy who was from Omaha, Ne, and he stated that Omaha and Waterloo are drug hubs and that there are some legitimately rough ghetto areas in both cities. As for the story about the black guy trying to break your window and grab your sister, that's fucking awful and scary as fuck! What exactly did you guys do after that happened? Call the police? Try to run him over?
And have you been to any other hardcore cities like Detroit, Flint, Gary, Chicago, et.c? If so, how does Davenport compare to them in terms of crime and danger?
>>581069360 >>581071285 I have actually had several Florida cities on the list before, but I've edited after getting feedback from people in different threads, and it seems as though the list I copied and pasted from this time did not have them included. However, I am definitely aware that there are lots of ghetto/gangster cities in Florida. I originally included Miami on the list, after seeing the city features on 'The First 48' so many times. And people have posted and stated that Jacksonville and Orlando are both pretty fucking dangerous. And while I am originally from/born and raised in Arizona and am currently living there now, the only other place I've lived in the Tampa/St. Petersburg, Fl, area, and there are some rough areas in both Tampa and St. Pete. And people have also commented that Tallahassee also has some rough areas. However, it seems like the further south you go in Florida, the worse it gets.
>>581071529 What I meant was that I don't know which city/area you are referring to. What city/state is The Bluffs in?
>>581071653 I've heard that Indianapolis definitely has some rough ghettos. Are the bad areas there comparable to the bad parts of Gary?
>>581068778 I certainly believe this story. By almost all accounts, the bad parts of Oakland are absolutely awful. It seems as though San Francisco also seems to have some really rough areas. And they both seem to have massive homeless populations and outrageous drug problems, as well as an abundance of gang problems.
>>581073415 Thanks for replying and clarifying that for me. I believe that someone posted in a previous thread about a movie called 'Snow On The Bluffs' or something like that, so it was probably about that area. Are you from/do you live in Atlanta? If so, got any stories? Atlanta seems like it's a huge vity with all sorts of drug/gang/crime/racial problems, so I'm sure there's lots of fucked-up things going on there.
>>581066386 Here's one of the posts form the guy from ABQ:
I live and work in Albuquerque as a bouncer and a security guard in the south valley.
>walking home from work, double shift >see two kids get chased into a ditch by mexican >screaming, gunshots >duck the fuck out, call the cops >APD wont come into this part of town, they tell me to call county
>working security for the avengers movie >theyre shooting in the abandoned railyards >tell us to clear out the bums >go upstairs, hear a ruckus herewegoagain.bmp
>kick open door, three mexicans raping a man >nope the fuck out, get chased down stairs >pepper spray two mexicans >cops show up 45 mins later
>working security at bar by laguna pueblo >two indians pull up in a 90s ford taurus >immediately start shooting at me and hooting >I take a .45 to the shoulder >cry, piss in my pants >return fire wildly with 9mm, empty two magazines >they tear ass out of the parking lot >nobody in the bar even gives a fuck >cops show up 20 mins later, no ambulance >drive self 30 mins to hospital downtown
lots of shit stories
>working security for breaking bad >they pick the shittiest neighborhood twisters for fake chicken restaurant >fuckyouretards.mpeg >sitting on top of a half million dollars of copper caples >mexicans obviously casing the joint, drive by repeatedly for two hours from 2-4am >load shotgun, sit on truck hood holding it >mexicans watch me from parking lot across the street >cops take 45 mins to show
i fucking hate albuquerque fuck mexicans fuck indians
HAHAHAHAHA fuckin pussy faggots in the USA,get killed by random niggers every day. Hahaha fuckin fat shits, all of you deserve it. I'm happy because I live in Europe,not in that fuckin third world nigger country USA.
>driving out towards isleta pueblo in my bronco >looking forward to a good day of offroading and drinking >old ford truck stops in the middle of the road in front of me >two mexicans get out and point guns at me >yelling spanish gibberish >floor it, drive off the road into the bosque >fucking brown people shoot my back window out
>playing poker at route 66 casino >taking hands from drunk indians all night >cash out at a little over three grand >three asshole mudskins following me from cashier to exit >tell security >they refuse escort to my car >run from exit to truck >am fat, smoke, get caught >get a few good hits in but recieve ass-beating of a lifetime >retards only took 300$ from my wallet, not 3000 in boot
>driving patrol in internat. district, run over some construction bullshit >blow out a tire >mexicans gather, one tries to grab keys from me >shove beaner onto the ground, kick violently >get back in the car, drive six blocks on the rim >not today mudskins
>>581073785 im the guy that posted about indianapolis, and to answer your previous question, bad parts of indy are just as bad as gary. the difference between indy and gary is that indy is HUGE (14th biggest metro in the U.S.) and has its share of good and bad parts of town (although the bad parts are some of the worst in the country). gary is pretty small, but the entire town has essentially lost all of its industry and white flight has assured the city is almost entirely a shit hole.
and yes, 'snow on the bluff' is a fictional "found footage" type of movie about a guy living in the bluffs... ive actually got family in atlanta so i visit quite frequently, its another massive city with its fair share of good and parts, but the bad parts of atlanta are vast wastelands of human desperation
HAHAHAHAHA fuckin pussy faggots in the USA,get killed by random niggers every day. Hahaha fuckin fat shits, all of you deserve it. I'm happy because I live in Europe,not in that fuckin third world nigger country USA. I hope Russia will nuke the shit out of you amerifaggots! HAIL EUROPE!
Yeah I think Abq is quite a biy worse off. They don't talk about it as much but south of I40 isnt okay to be after dark.
Never met Tapia, but I boxed at that same gym for awhile. J. Voight was a cool dude, he sat next to me at tuscanos downtown. Sam jackson was a serious asshole. We ran into him in old town and he told us to get the fuck out of his way. My wife and I were sitting in the grass. Grade A douche. My wife's friend called him a trash ass nigger. I laughed.
People get kidnapped out of town and there's a pretty serious problem with human traffickers. Also if you dont lock your shit up tight your truck will be stolen. Will be.
At about 3am the other night some asshole started banging on my door yelling about needing change for the bus. Ofc my wife is like "go do something about it"
I opened the door and this asshole tried to stab me with a little insulin needle. I had the baby monitor in my hand and i hit him in the face with it six or seven times before it broke apart. I didnt even make the conscious thought to do it, just happened. Took APD almost 45 minutes to show up.
>be me delivering pizza >pull up to this really large pristine ghetto house >leave car running, not locked as I approach door >2 scary looking dark colored indians answer door acting way too polite >get only a $5 tip >faggots >go back to car, get in drive off >notice the sprinklers are going at a nearby house >tfw they are breaking city ordinance because it's dark outside >such is life
I'd never recommend coming here. The recent asian influx has brought a lot of college students .
>>581074019 What do you mean "alerts" about this stuff? Got any stories to share? And have you lived in any other big cities/bad areas to compare Philly to? If so, how does it compare?
>>581074335 Damn, that's really saying something, to compare a city's bad area to Gary, Indiana! And seeing as you've spent time in both places, how does Indianapolis compare to Atlanta? Are they similarly scary and dangerous? And have you been to Detroit or Flint? If so, what do you think of them?
>>581075004 my mom grew up in flint and detroit. ive been to detroit. its fucked up. even more fucked up than indianapolis or gary. or atlanta. but not as fucked up as new orleans. two blocks away from the french quarter and its the worst city in america that ive ever been to
>>581075437 Damn, you're saying that New Orleans is worse than Flint and Detroit?? Really? How is that realistically possible? Why did you feel/do you think that New Orleans is so bad/dangerous/scary?
And how have you been to so many cities? Also, have you been to Arizona? The phoenix area? If so, what did you think of it? That's where I'm from, so I'm just curious what you might think of it.
>>581075563 You're telling me that they have the Internet in Flint?? Just joking, my man! So, what's it like there? Is it as violent/crime-ridden and scary as almost everybody familiar with the place says it is? And is it really like a little version of Detroit's ghettos? What's the relationship like between the people/gangsters/criminals from Flint and Detroit? Is there a beef/rivalry between the two cities? Or do they typically get along?
Got any good stories about Flint or Detroit? Also, have you been to Gary, In? Or East St. Louis, Il?
>>581064398 First person I saw get shot do death was when I was 11 years old in the Boulder Creek Apartments on the south side. The guy got shot point blank and fell to the ground got back up and started wandering around saying he needed to go get groceries, people tried getting him to calm down, someone called the police, dude died like 5-10 minutes later, cops showed up 3 hours after he died to gather the body and leave.
>>581076050 I haven't been to Gary or St. Louis. I don't know much about the gang activity between Detroit and Flint. I don't think there are any beefs but there are plenty of issues here in the city. We have some legit gangs and then some stupid piece of shit street gangs. It's usually the street gangs that cause the most problems at least the ones I run into.
Visited milwaukee one time, for work, I went to a mall, I can't remember the name, but I remember that it was close to the Milwakee Journal Sentinel building. I fucked around in the mall, because I was waiting for the Bucks game to start, and as I was leaving, shots rang out, on my way back to the Bradley Center, I only saw one police car. It was a few years back, and seeing as how I've only been there once, it's really not fair for me to draw judgment but it was the first time I had been anywhere near a public shooting
>>581076050 My favorite cousin was shot 3 years ago while trying to steal a cadillac. He was a cool cousin but a fucking idiot. He wasn't a gang member but he was like an "associate" of a gang I guess. He stole cars in Flint and then would sell them on the east side of Detroit and then steal another car and drive back to Flint and ditch it around the north end and then take the MTA home.
>>581076838 Lol, I imagine he was just in shock. It was just confusing really. First me and my cousin were spinning the rims on a car in the parking lot and a guy looked out the window and yelled at us to get away from his car. We kept walking and another guy was yelling at that dude and walked up to him pulled out a pistol and shot him and walked away like it wasn't a big deal, got in a car and drove off.
>>581075004 Temple U sends out alerts when crimes occur on temple campus or to temple students, but will only send them out if they deem it appropriate to warn students, which they very rarely do.
A little over a month ago outside my apartment one night, this guy is getting the absolute shit beat out of him and he's getting his face kicked in by over a dozen niggers, call the cops and an ambulance and they get there in good time, but by the time they do most of the assailants had run, walked or driven off and I haven't seen or heard anything about it since. Called Temple and they said that didn't warrant an alert. i'm about 2 blocks off of campus and at least 100 students live around the area. Tried to file a complaint about the alert but they didn't acknowledge it, all they care about is their image of safety and not appearing racist. Pretty much have to hold a gun to your head for them to send out an alert, which seems to be happening a lot lately anyway. Temple my be in the thick of niggerville but there's a pretty good buffer zone so most people don't have to deal with anything that's actually that bad. temple does have to employ and use around 200 police officers and personnel to keep it that way. Things may seem bad right around the school but they get much, much worse once you get a few blocks off campus. i can't say that i know quite how bad it is because I'm not that far off, but driving through it when going places it seems quite bad. A lot of armed robberies lately and there is gun violence semi-regularly, more often against non-students, which you won't really hear about. Can't say for sure though or really compare, I don't think where I am at least matches up to be quite as bad as some other places.
Haven't really been elsewhere bad but my gf is from Baltimore she says that was pretty bad too she's seen a lot of crime even outside her house which is in a slightly better area than some.
im gonna guess you'll want to hear to story so im gonna type it out
>im 17 >visiting new orleans/french quarter with my mom, day, and girlfriend >stop at gas station a couple blocks outside french quarter on our way out >sitting in car about to leave >black guys walk up to the car, look into the window, start yelling shit at my girlfriend and mom about fucking them >i give them the finger >black guy takes out pistol and shoots out our window >i reach in my pocket for my switchblade >before anything else happens my dad steps on it and we get the hell out of there
good thing my dad took off when he did because i probably wouldve gotten killed before i could even get a stab in
>>581076221 First off, where are the Boulder Creek Apartments that you're referring to located? How are we supposed to know what city/area you are referring to? Also, you state that this was "the first person you saw shot," have you witnessed something like this again since then? If so, do you run with gangs, criminals, or are you a cop? And where are you from? Do you live now?
>>581076540 You care to share some of the details about what happened to you in N'awlins?
>>581076619 Are you suggesting that there are 3 areas of Pennsylvania that are more fucked-up than Camden, NJ? And if so, are you being serious? After having started about 10-15 of these threads over the past 6 months or so, you are one of maybe two people who have tried to claim that Philly/Chester was worse than Camden; but about 20-30 people have commented that Camden is on a different level than Chester and even the worst parts of Philadelphia. Now, I have not been to NJ or Pa, so I can;t say anything personally; but I am surprised to read your comments about Camden being 4th of that list of 5 places you mentioned.
I'm curious, do you run with a rough crowd there in Pa, where I'm assuming you're from? Do you spend time in the bad areas of your city? And have you actually been to Camden?
>>581064778 Jesrey city fag reporting in.... Most of the violence is west of the 95 extension. Where im at now is all luxury condos and shit. Once those fags from brooklyn learn about this place we are fucked. Id rather have niggers shooting themselvs a few blocks west of me than some hipster faggots..
>>581077428 I live downtown Flint currently. I lived on the south side of Flint back then. Boulder Creek is on the south side as well. I don't hang out with gangs but all of my male cousins and a couple of my female cousins are involved in gangs. Also, I'm the youngest of 53 cousins so there are just a shit ton of them. They're all white trash. Oh and yes I've seen a few people shot. I've witnessed four shootings but I've been the area while two or three other shootings have happened.
I live in Gilbert Arizona, easily one of the best towns to live in, but I've been through ghetto parts of Guadalupe, Phoenix, and even mesa/Chandler. It's weird how this quiet town is surrounded by ghettos but nothing happens here
>>581077428 Camden is small as fuck with decent amount of crime. Thats why statistically its significant but this is all my opinion. Ive been to all except chester which ive heard from multiple people that if you go there your going to be victimized. Kensington tops it because that it the one place ive ever been and felt threatened by everybody including the police. Dont get me wrong though, they are all shitty places I wouldnt want to be caught alone in.
>>581065626 i used to buy my heroin in paterson. Camden is where you get fucking robbed at gun point. Im sober almost two years now. But i met some guys in rehab who got their dope in camden. they all had stories.
>>581077239 What the fuck? This really happened to you? While you were with your mom, sister and dad, sitting in your car? He started shit by talking about wanting to fuck the females in your car, then, when you flipped him off, he pulled a gun, and not only pulled it, but shot in to your car?? WHAT. THE. FUCK?
And what were you thinking about when you pulled your knife out? How were you not overcome by fear in that situation? Did your parents call/contact/find the police after this happened? If so, what happened?
>>581078117 In your honest opinion, who is the cause for most of the problems in Flint? Blacks? Whites? Mexicans? And is basically everyone from Flint hardened and tough from having lived there? It really seems like that's the case in Flint and Detroit, in particular. I'm guessing it's also like that with the people in Gary and East St. Louis.
>>581078338 I'm only going on what I've read in similar threads like this that I've started on here in the past, but several people have specifically commented that Buffalo is no joke. If I recall correctly, they stated that many of the gangs/drug dealers/criminals have moved away from NYC and have ended up in Buffalo. People have also claimed that Newburgh, NY, is really fucking bad. Like, on the same level as Philly and Camden.
>>581078427 Where exactly is East Chicago? Is it close to Gary? Is it a bigger/more-populated city than Gary? And how does it compare to Gary? Or Indy? Is it deserving of being compared to Gary?
>>581078586 I was born and raised in Chandler, lived there until I was 16, then moved to Payson for 16 years, before moving to the Tampa/St. Pete area for almost 5 years, and now I'm back in Arizona, living in south Scottsdale. It's actually what would be considered the ghetto of Scottsdale, which I didn't even know Scottsdale had, near 68th St. and Thomas. And I've been to some of the rough parts of Phoenix and it definitely has some scary areas.
>>581079147 It's like a bonding moment for anyone that lives or has lived in the area you live when people worry about something that seems insignificant. You all get to be like "If they only knew!" hue hue hue together. Typically that's a bonding moment at gas stations when people that aren't from the area come in and are scared.
>>581079147 >>581079337 word. if nobody is reacting then it's just going to get worse. these places went to shit because people stopped giving a fuck, and their kids never got the chance to learn how to give a fuck in the first place. no fucks were given. it's weird that somebody could be open to a better life, and pretty much begging for it, but practically incapable of understanding the first thing about it.
>>581079524 yeah there's gangs and drug dealers, but like i said you learn to avoid those areas. I know plenty of places where you'll be jumped for looking at someone wrong. one of my buddies had to stab a kid cause they all jumped him on some unrelated shit
>>581079524 i was totally overcome with fear. and anger. it was fight or flight, i guess i felt cornered and chose fight. and yeah, he didn't aim it at any of us... he just blew the window out. we just drove away in shock for awhile... i don't think my dad ever ended up calling the police either. they probably wouldn't have done anything anyway, since nobody really got hurt. just had to replace the window
>>581079524 I want to say no we aren't hardened by living here but when I go elsewhere I can see a difference between the people from here and elsewhere. Yeah I guess it does really. The blacks and the mexicans are the problems here to be honest. Mostly the blacks but thats because our city is like 55% black. The mexicans are everywhere on the east side and they're pretty bad but don't really leave that side of town.
>>581075176 Mud broke ass sister, and her ghetto ass family live there. No idea why they moved away from our white enclave of Fort Lee, NJ to live their. Visited years back, crazy how it used to be an industrial town, then turned to poor as fuck.
Anyways heres my last 2 from Oakland >on way to work, need to get gas >get off in East Oakland >get gas and fill up truck >get into truck, lock doors, and slowly move out into street >hear someone jiggling passenger side door handle and slapping window >look and see its an older black female crackhead trying to get into truck >nope right out of there nearly running her over
And >have to meet boss at same gas station in east oakland >be parked by pump >black crackhead lookin nigga walks up to truck >starts undoin my trucks gas cap >get out and tell him to get the fuck off my truck >he acts offended and starts calling me racist white guy blah (Im mexican but look like a skinhead when i shave head) >he starts acting like hes going to try and punch me >grab work knife out of pocket incase anything happens >boss shows up to pump behind me >crackhead sees and scatters >boss asks what happened >tell him >he says the crackhead aint shit and that he used to sell crack to the same crackhead when they were younger >boss is drug dealer
>>581079118 I used to live in Scottsdale, not to far from the W. I must have had blinders on because all I saw was old ass white snow birds, and rich ass white girls eating fro yo. Almost never saw a Mexicans, or blacks. Even at night never felt, any danger.
>>581074523 That yours there, sir, is a wonderful bait. Have you considered making it your full time job? May I interest you with a 3 months summer school on the preparation of baits. It is held in Brussels.
Mobile isn't so bad. Birmingham is a total shitfest. One side for the hipsters and the other for niggers and you can guess which expands faster. If we could just get rid of all the niggers, the city would actually be fairly livable now that the hipster side has grown up a bit.
>>581084187 I'm flying in their for a business trip the first on Dec. Forced to spend the night one time, decided to explore ended up at a super ghetto club called the diamond, or some shit like that. Craziest thing I ever seen was 50 black people 2 stepping to rap music, like it was the country fair. I felt like I steped into the twilight zone.
>>581084953 Tuscaloosa is a college town so there's always plenty of pretty girls around. In the summer, it gets hot as shit so you see girls walking to class in sports bras and covering up before lecture halls. Not bad at all.
>>581083647 That's exactly how some people in previous threads have described American cities like Camden, NJ; East St. Louis, Il; New Orleans, La; Memphis, Tn; and Detroit, Mi. People have also stated that there are areas in these cities that literally look like war zones. And with the gangs, drugs, and hardened-and-hopeless criminals, some areas of these cities probably aren't that different from actual war zones.
>>581084187 Have you heard of Prichard, Alabama? Someone posted in a recent thread and mentioned Prichard as being as fucked-up and violent as any city in the U.S. He stated that is an area that is fenced off and that people from there would swim across some lake/river/body of water and attack and even kill people in fast food drive-thrus for their food. I think he also mentioned there being some sort of a documentary about Prichard and the gangs/crime there.
>>581084754 Are you from Detroit? If do, got any stories? Or personal pics of the area?
>>581085092 Does the video end up seeing/showing any of the fucked-up, violent, scary people in Detroit? Or just the structures and abandoned areas? Either way, it sounds like it's intriguing.
>>581083647 Few and far between, but when you are in them don't fuck around... Definitely not the places you want to hang around unless your drugs of choice are Heroine or Meth...
>Be 19 small time weed mover, not even dealing, east Seattle (Really upscale area actually) >Buddy wants me to grab an ounce for him so I call up some old friends from Jr. High... I used to kick it with some methy people. > My girlfriend drives me to meet dealers at apartment parking lots behind a QFC, >Car to car deal >Hop in back of their car with a backpack all money sealed in my hand and my buddy in the back says very strait forward "give me the money" >Instantly could tell it wasn't gonna be a smooth deal >Look up front to other old homie and say "You're kidding right? You aren't gonna let this happen anon?" >My old friend from elementary school just looks the other way pretends it isn't happening right behind him. >First guy throws me in a headlock starts choking me. >I do not want to fight with this gym membership coke addict >Wasn't entirely sure if someone was gonna pull a gun if I tried to fuck with them. >Choking >Fuckthis.jpg >"Its in my backpack you piece of shit." >He lets go to go for my bag and I bolt out the door on the other side. >guy catches my shirt tears it in half. >I dive for my bag at last second and black bitch driving hits the gas. >Dude is holding me and punching me in the face and I am dragged about 30 feet by this car >road burn the size of a watermelon for a month. >Loose backpack >Money was in my hand the whole time >Dumb cunts actually tried to jack me for $230 over a fucking weed deal. This shit isn't supposed to happen to teenage suburbanites... My girlfriend is scarred as fuck over it... Nightmares for a few months...
MFW I ended up in a million sketchy as fuck situations and that one fucks with me more than any.
>>581085723 Prichard is pretty fucked up, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as other places. I haven't heard about the fences and drive-thru murders. That seems exaggerated, but either way there are some very nice areas of mobile and some nasty areas like most cities. You wouldn't want to have to stop for directions in Prichard, but it doesn't come close to Bessemer/Birmingham area which is probably around 95% violent ghetto niggers.
>>581086346 It's interesting that you mentioned Gary, as I was just looking at an old archived thread and a story someone posted about driving through Gary, Indiana, on the way to Chicago and having cars block the road and try to ambush him while pointing a shotgun at him.
And in regards to being in danger of being a victim of a crajacking, it seems as though Camden, Gary, and Flint are similar in the sense that people have claimed that you are literally at risk of being robbed/carjacked/assaulted at all times; particularly, if you are from out of town/white.
> Pic related: The screencap of the greentext story I just described
>>581087171 Damn it! I forgot to attach the screencap! It should be attached to this post.
>>581086692 So, you are saying that Bessemer/Birmingham is legitimately terrible and violent and scary? As in, comparable to places like New Orleans, Memphis, Detroit? Got any stories to share about this area?
>>581085824 Bare in mind that I was always baked as fuck...
Another... About 7 months later, I want from unsafe to retarded really quick... I was a stoner and just had a tough time separating from my friend group when they all went off the deep end. > Hanging in a sketchier part of east side, near 1601 apartments... (At least its not Kent) >My friends are all smoking heroine while I take fat bong rips. >Go hang out at dealers house, he is really pissed off about everything. >I watch my friends bitch about some guys who might try to show up and start shit later >The whole time there are like three people waving around loaded guns (like at me and at eachother) like its normal hand gestures. > Decide to get more stoned so I won't care about the potential danger. >Miracle that I never did Heroine when that's all I surrounded myself with for months. -------------------------------------------------------
>Was a driver for a small time rave gang in downtown Seattle. >They'd gimme free weed and get me into shows >I'd drive them wherever the fuck they wanted on rave nights >Usually way overfilled my Volvo (I'd fit people under blankets in the back) >Friends would go in with 500- 3000 pills and would leave with at least $10,000 regularly. >Invited me to afterparty at their clubhouse thing >Piles of blow (I mean fatty piles), ketamine, and MDMA getting passed around. > Wanted to try MDA because I heard it was more hallucinogenic than MDMA. (I'd never touched club drugs before) > One guy gives me a caterpillar sized line >Rail it >Proceed to fall into K hole and have the worst night of my life. >Leave as soon as I can move >Drive home on comedown (no recollection of where I was or how I got to my girl's) >Crash at girlfriends house for 16 hours strait. >Get bitched out for leaving without the crew. Fuck that crew, fuck ketamine...
>>581072154 north philly has the worst hoods on the east coast bar none. phillyfag reporting in. got jumped last superbowl outside a bar near temple university, dont remember anything but waking up in the hospital
>>581086212 Yea we are still together... 4 years later... I don't remember most of our first year together because I was so high all the time. I didn't deserve her, she was young and I was some stupid asshole who was going nowhere really fast. Now we are both graduating college at the end of this year, my life is a complete 180, I'm getting a full ride scholarship to do a masters and PhD in genetics in a lab in Japan for the next five years... She is coming with me, prolly gonna marry her. She saved me... Picture is us 3 years ago.
>>581087171 well i'll rephrase...i myself have never really BEEN to gary (i've rode on a greyhound bus that stopped in gary, but is very brief, maybe 5 minutes max) a lot of people say don't go to gary...a lot of high corporate trucking companies tell their truckers to under no circumstances stop their trucks in gary but yeah ive never been there. ive heard its just a hide out town for gang bangers from chicago and an all around addict town
>>581087492 I have no doubt that Philly is rough, but straight-up worse than Camden? Have you been to Camden? And what about Chester? Do you think Chester's worst area is on the same level as Philly's worst parts?
Also, do you remember what led up to you getting jumped? Did you possibly start shit with someone? Did you get robbed? Do you recall what color the people were? And what color are you? And did they arrest anyone for jumping you?
>>581087689 Do you find the bad parts of Detroit to be scary/unnerving to be in? Particularly, at night? What about Flint, have you been there? If so, do you think one's bad part is worse than the other?
Also, do you like Eminem? And how is he thought of there? I'm a white guy, about his age, from Arizona, and I fucking love him! He is, hands down, my all-time favorite musician. I'm assuming that he is revered by most people. And despite the controversial shit he often says, he seems like he's actually a decent guy with humble roots who has compassion for people who struggle; particularly, in/around Detroit.
>>581088140 I live in cherry hill im from philly. in all honesty there are certain areas of camden that are twice as bad as north philly, north camden mostly. once you hit the numbered streets, its time to leave. sorry i guess i exxagerated but north philly is bigger than camden and is generally shittier, but camdens hotpoints are on another level
>>581087921 Good for you for changing your life around! And for being grateful to/for someone (your GF) who stuck with you through the tough times! Don't mistreat her and don't take her for granted. Just some friendly advice who knows a little about mistreating and taking for granted a good, loyal woman. :)
Living in south Philly for the past 5 years, I grew up 10 minutes next to chester. North, West and Kensington areas of Philly are bad, Camden is worst than Philly...
Chester is worst than both. My best friend lives in chester & he's has 2 brothers shot in the back of the head (seperate occasions). Both actually lived, and one was later was killed by a shotgun blast about a year ago. He's actually had 3 relatives murdered in the past 2-3 years.
Chester is worst than camden Camden is worst than philly
>>581088140 sorry, third reply. i was drunk as shit and i had iterally 3 blocks to go to my friends apartment i absolutely did not start shit with anyone as i never do not even when drunk. last thing i remember was 2 niggers walking on the side of the street, they waited till i passed and one ran up and punched me in the side of the head. dont even remember hitting the gound after that tho
>>581088125 Since you mentioned Cleveland, Here's a story that was posted in a previous thread about an experience in Cleveland:
cleveland? fuck it
>>go to see a concert in cleveland >>never been to cleveland should be fun >>get together with clan of friend and load up in a big ass navigator >>all skater bros etc. >>get into town a day early to see the city fuck off skate etc. >>later that nig...
oh wait allow me to tell you a secret about ol clevecityburgville easily the dirtiest city this side of the 1st world part of the equator. holy fuck people throw shit in a garbage can please
anyhow >>later that night we split off >>couples >>me and the current gf head off skating >>she is kinda wore out so she is walking with her board as I skate back and forth >>really just cruising seeing the city >>i would skate ahead a bit and wait for her to catch up >>i have a thing about night skating >>lub mah night skates >>anyhoo skate ahead and turn around >>strange city etc trying to keep an eye on her >>fucking bum out of an alley >>lunges out grabs her and pulls her into an alley >>didn't see me i guess? >>crazy endorphins >>mad adrenaline >>i all of a sudden was positive I was bulletproof >>run into the alley without thinking or commanding my body to >>he has his back to me as I get close she kicks him away >>he takes two steps back and >>catches the heaviest set of independent trucks they ever made >>directly to the side of the head >>I even spun my foot as I swung >>like full tilt >>the noise >>the blood >>he flies into the brick wall and collapses >>no movement >>i'm pretty sure I just collapsed this guys skull >>grab gf >>bounce >>meet back at the hotel with the group never told anyone >>we still haven't talked about it to this day tbh >>no idea what happened to him but i'll assume he wasn't wearing his life alert so probably kill
>Pic related: A picture that showed up after searching Google Images for "Cleveland Ohio Ghetto"
>>581088140 Being in most parts of Detroit at night is very unsafe. Do I find it scary? No I have lived here and know people in my neighborhood. Will I go to the eastside in the daytime? FUCK NO! If your white there they think youre a junkie. Few friends, family and I got robbed at gunpoint back in Dec of 2009. I have never been to flint, but people run drugs from Detroit to Flint, from Flint to Detroit. I do like Eminem and everyone here loves Em. Simply because he reps "The D" just like all rappers from here.
>>581088738 I lived on the westside, went to school with Gina Dejesus and her kidnappers daughter. You know the 3girls that were held captive for 10yrs? A friend of mine was also on the news Google search "Keith Richardson robbery cleveland". Despite the people I know and the things they do, I do not get involved in that shit and do nothing illegal.
>>581089046 nah, just a broke ass music guy. Moved here to get out of the shit hole suburbs. South Philly is actually coming up quite hard, there are quite a few segreted blocks of Italians, though they're mainly in the very very south parts.
Atlanta >On Marta 2:30am >Headphones in listening to music >nignog comeup to me and takes a earbud out of my ear >"you not listening to hip hop you owe me a dollar" >Listening to Gin & Juice >Tells me I owe him a dollar >argument continues infront of cop >headphones rip >I stand up and reach on my side for my knife >He looks at cop and back at me and leaves >Cop looks at my with my hand on my knife and get out at the next stop
Bitch ass cop didn't do anything for me, bot even shoot the nignog
>>581089070 Also, literally my first night living in Philly I looked out my bedroom window, seen what I thought was someone laying on the ground, turns out they were getting mugged. one dude ran off, the dude who got mugged grabbed his shit and walked off all bloody.
My girlfriends car got broken into within the first 2 weeks of us living here. Car was trashed, screw driver in the ignition still. We called the cops, they said they're otw. Cops called back on hour later "lol, we can't make it out, just tell us what happened". No cops ever showed.
>i guess this is the way it's gonna be from now on.
>>581089108 Cleveland sure seems like it's a fucked-up place, but people in previous threads have tried to defend the city and say that it's gotten much better in recent years. Which may be true; but it still surely has some scary areas. I'm sure, like all big cities, Cleveland has some nice areas, but it seems like it legitimately has some of the worst ghettos in the Midwest, if not, in the country. It seems like it's probably like a smaller Detroit. Plus, Cleveland has been features on 'The First 48' a lot lately, and it just seems like the culture and the people there have that hardened/toughened attitude from being in the cold weather and the tough financial times over the decades.
People have also stated that Dayton and Akron are pretty bad in areas; and Cincinnati is supposed to have some rough parts. And, Youngstown has been mentioned as possibly being the hardest city in Ohio and that it has a mob presence there still. Have you ever been there? Or to any of these other cities?
>>581089662 >Cleveland Fag here >be in ghetto >just passing through with friend in his car >suddenly hear gun shots everywhere >"fuck drive man!!!" >friend is in shock doing about 10 down the street literally shitting himself >check news next day >5 gangsters killed in shootout >mfw
Second, where did you move from? And what was it like there? Is living in Philly like culture shock to you and your girlfriend?
Third, are the Cambodians there really as hardcore and violent and you're making them out to be? Are they hardcore and violent enough to fuck with the mobs of black gangsters in Philly? Do they clash with the blacks there? And did that story you mentioned about throwing the people in the river just happen like a couple months ago? I ask, because I seem to recall seeing something about a story like that on HuffPost Crime recently and it sounded like the situation you described; but I don't recall if someone survived.
>>581089662 I moved back to Michigan in 09, and it definitely has gotten worse since I left. I still keep in touch with friends. Its something new everyday. Glad you mentioned the first 48, a few of my brothers friends were on there. It's dirty like Detroit but not as dirty and there's not much graffiti as compared to Detroit. The people are different to, it's like Detroit is more colder, more heartless than Cleveland residents. I've heard parts of Akron are pretty shady as well as Youngstown, Cincinnati too, Toledo is another one.. Sorry on mobile and tired as shit so excuse if theres any fuck ups.
>>581090425 cambodians are not to be fucked with. they rove around in gangs of 10-20 pple and stb people regularly. and this was when i was like 17 and we were all in high school... fucking gooks...fucking spics...fucking niggers. anyone else find it ironic that its primarily these people that live in these ghettos?
Chiraq drillinois here and even though rappers like Chief Keef, Fredo, Lil Reese and lil durk might seem like terrible musical artis. They're probably the realest gangster rappers in rap today. Look up Lil Marc No Compition he literally disses BD in front of Lil Reese and a week later found dead in front of a bus stop.
>>581090482 No worries. I appreciate you taking the time to reply. So, you moved back to Michigan? Did you move to Detroit or somewhere near it? And have you been to Flint? Sorry, if I've asked you already (as I've asked several people who've posted), but if you have been to Flint and Detroit, do you think one is worse than the other? Or would you say that their ghettos/crime/criminals/dangers are similar?
And is Detroit really noticeably colder and more-hardcore than Cleveland?
>>581090425 I actually live in one of the nicer areas of Philly (right near pats & genos steaks). Shit's just kind of wild here. Watched 3 jersey bro's jump 2 hipster bike kids & smash their heads in with bike locks till they were snoring on the ground/bloody and this happened in one of the most popular tourist areas of the city.
Philly is really block to block though, it may be a few fine perfect blocks, then a murder block, then 5 not so bad blocks. It's kinda weird.
Yes the cambodians are that hardcore, & yea that story happened maybe 2 to 3 months ago. blacks don't even fuck w them most the time. Blacks are too busy robbing mexicans & killing eachother. Cars get broken into on the daily. shit's just kinda wild and you learn to be on your guard. I honestly love this city so much though.
The kensington area is probably the worst part of philly. They actually have a Drugs Inc. Kensington episode that shows perfectly how it is. Junkies laying in puddles too fuccked up to even stand. lol.
I grew up right next to chester, which was kinda fucked as it is & I'd always come into the city for fun (they're about 20minutes away).
Philly is actually a fantastic city as long as you're street smart. Chester is filled with random murders to no accord & has absolutely 0 redeeming qualities.
>>581090917 Yes moved back in 09, and no I don't live in Detroit anymore. Live in Trenton which is about 30miles south of Detroit. No I have not been to Detroit but I've heard stories and see news reports. It doesn't seem any different than Detroit. Yes Detroit is a lot more noticeable than cleveland.
I lived in Newark over the summer. 21 yr old white male. I had a wonderful time. Made lifelong friends. I befriended the east orange crips in the area and had protection. Hung out on the corner with these guys almost every day after work.
>>581090946 I'm assuming that you're being sincere and not trolling me to try to bait me in to responding so that you can belittle and insult me, so I'll respond and answer your questions.
I'm actually in my late-30s, and I deal poker at a casino. I honestly just have a strong interest and curiosity about ghetto cultures and crime. It's something of a contradicting interest, emotionally, as I am an incredibly compassionate person and hate to see people suffer, so I don't like to see/hear about horrible things happening to people. However, I can't help but think of a person and their hometown and the people there being perceived/known as a tough place with tough people as being something of a badge of honor.
I think my interest in this topic started about 10 years ago when I was reading the 'Off Topic' forum on a boxing site that I was regularly on and someone started a thread called "Whose City Is The Most Ghetto" or something like that. And people posted personal stories about cities that they'd been to and why they thought it was ghetto. And I seem to specifically recall stories about Detroit and Philadelphia being shared. And I just found the topic to be interesting and intriguing and and I've been somewhat fascinated with it since then.
And in regard to Detroit, something that stuck with me was a link that someone posted to an article about a crime that had recently happened in Detroit, where some kid (like 17 years-old, I think) had been shot, and the paramedics showed up first, and they found the kid lying in the street crying/moaning. So, as the paramedics load the kid on to the stretcher, a guy in a ski mask walks around the corner, tells the paramedics to step away from him, and then shoots the kid in the face with a shotgun, killing him. While the paramedics were right there. It was just so cold-hearted and violent that it bothered me and stuck with me. And it just seems to be par for the course for the cold, hardened, violent culture in Detroit.
BY AMBER HUNT MARTIN and BEN SCHMITT FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS
He lay on a stretcher racked with bullets and screaming for help. Then the masked man returned with a bigger gun to finish the job.
As paramedics frantically stripped 17-year-old Billie Rutledge to find the first series of bullet wounds and try to save his life, the man, now armed with a shotgun, walked up to the driveway on Omira in northern Detroit. He ordered paramedics to step aside.
With that, he leveled the shotgun at Rutledge, as the paramedics fled, and blasted the teen early Saturday morning in the top of the head.
Police are investigating whether Rutledge was killed because he knew too much or was connected to a March 12 slaying in Detroit.
"We've heard that he was involved in a previous crime with another individual that is know n to us," Detroit police spokesman James Tate said Monday of Rutledge. "But there is no official information yet to lead us to confirm that."
"We've heard that he was involved in a previous crime with another individual that is know n to us," Detroit police spokesman James Tate said Monday of Rutledge. "But there is no official information yet to lead us to confirm that."
Tate said police have a warrant for a 29-year-old Detroit man in connection with the March slaying of Shadad Yousif, the 45-year-old owner of Thomas Auto Repair, also on Omira.
Lemuel Rutledge, 15, identified the 29-year-old as the man he thinks killed his brother, Billie, on Saturday. The Free Press is withholding the suspect's name because he has not been charged in connection with Billie Rutledge's killing.
Lemuel Rutledge said the man is known in the neighborhood as both a drug dealer and a hit man. Detroit police have listed him as one of the city's most wanted.
As for Billie Rutledge's alleged role in the Yousif killing, Lemuel Rutledge said: "I believe he drove the car or he knew about it. ... Police caught up with him and asked him some questions" about the shooting of the auto repair shop owner.
Saturday's gunman "thought Billie was going to rat on him," he added.
Billie Rutledge reportedly was released from jail on Friday after serving time for a misdemeanor conviction. He was sleeping at a friend's house on Omira, near State Fair, when an acquaintance woke him up and asked him to go for a walk.
Lemuel Rutledge, who met with police Sunday to help in the investigation, said his brother and the acquaintance walked up the street together.
But his brother was nervous and stopped to talk to a woman sitting on her front porch, Lemuel Rutledge said investigators told him.
"He told her he felt he was being set up for something," Lemuel Rutledge said Monday of what police told him. "She said, 'If you feel like you're being set up, you need to leave the neighborhood then and go home.' "
According to police reports, EMS arrived about 3:30 a.m. and found Billie Rutledge lying in a driveway, bleeding from small-caliber bullet wounds and yelling, "Help me! Help me!"
Paramedics put him on a stretcher and snipped off his clothing to find the gunshot wounds. The paramedics, James Peyton and Toby Hanna, then heard the sound of a shotgun racking as they carried the stretcher to an ambulance.
That's when they turned and saw the gunman.
"Watch out, watch out," the gunman said, causing Peyton and Hanna to flee.
The two ran about 12 feet before they heard two shots, the report states. They were not injured and were on optional stress leave on Monday.
"The medics are doing fine," said Chief Gary Kelly of the EMS division of the Detroit Fire Department.
When police arrived, Billie Rutledge was nude with shotgun blasts to his head and left shoulder. Police also recovered shell casings and three shells from a small handgun in a nearby driveway.
Because the gunman wore a ski mask, no witnesses were able to provide identification other than an approximate height of 6 feet.
Anyone with information on Saturday's slaying is asked to call Detroit Police at anytime.
>>581093231 The police in Detroit are just previous Detroit residents with cruel intentions, most of them are dirty cops. I've witnessed them take money and drugs from people. One just recently got caught wearing a homicide victims expensive watch
>>581093249 Everyone where I live is white, they are white trash in the sense that they're on welfare and do pills, but we also have very loose gun laws so none of them steal for their habit, the ones that try every few years get limbs blown off and stuff.
Crossing pic related is all that's required to be legally shot and killed in my state
While i have no stories about Chicago (I live on the upper northern suburbs which, is still bad a kid i was with got jumped for an OZ & his iphone in broad daylight in front of a jewel parking lot. I have friends in jail for committing B&E's. One time they managed to steal a ruger so we sold it to some maniacs (a mexican disciple gang. MLDs for my chi natives) a week after the transaction i was smoking with them and they told us they were walking down a bike path, just robbing people.
>>581094036 I`m in northeastern, it`s not that bad, there's a gay dude and a black guy that live in our county and they don`t get beaten up or anything, incest happens once in awhile but its usually distant cousins, a dad knocked his daughter up here like 15 years ago, the only local work is labor or a place where you have to have the right last name, but you can travel half an hour or so and there's plenty employment opportunities, just nothing in the city by itself really, small town life and what have you.
I used to hate it here because you're so cut off from the world, but now it seems like a pretty good deal, we`ve had 2 murders in 28 years that I know of.
>>581094242 I`ve always been happy with pot, I had about a 2 month pill phase and it just seemed like an expensive and damaging habit, I liked Valiums and that`s about it.
A lot of people here go to Florida over the summer and there's a practice down there that is famous for getting scripts, the only real problem I have with it is it keeps my area pretty dry on pot because of the pill market.
>>581094952 I traveled to Dallas, OR about 7 years ago on a greyhound and had a lot of layovers in big cities, I`m sure you can`t judge every area by their bus stops but places like Cleveland and st Louis were fucking zoos, people would come up to me and tell me to give them $2, try to lure me across the street to "join a smoke circle" which sounded to much like "get fucking stabbed" coming from someone with meth scabs, dealers were posted up 20 yards from cops putting shit in my hand and getting way too close to my face just repeating prices over and over, Colorado was great but I forgot what city it was, and I enjoyed my time in Dallas, it has a small town feel to it without the bible belt attachments.
I would probably move there if there weren't so many meth heads.
>>581069360 Fellow Jacksonville resident. It's not as bad as he makes it out to be. I've lived here all my life never been robbed. Went to school in the hood(magnet school), dealt drugs, dealt quantities to people who sold in the hood. Just like anywhere you need to keep your wits. Now compared to others on the list? Yes we can be that bad absolutely..
But here is not like the other major urban area, there is no "random" crime, if you're clean cut white bread, surburbia, the dope boys wont rob you since its usually bad news for them (heat).
But absolutely do not walk around at night or get lost in the following areas unless you DO WANT to be mistaken for a rival gangster, or get robbed by a crackhead: -Anywhere on the northwest side (beaver to the numbered streets, particularly 45th avenue B-its a warzone/hellhole) -Out east(downtown, which sucks since downtown is popular) -103rd/wilson/timquana-westside -Plymouth/murray hill by eureka gardens(5 shootings/bodies past month for 1 complex) -North Downtown/springfield -North Arlington(parts of merrill, justina, 300 block) -NW Arlington(Sin City/central arlington-regency mall) -parts of mayport( Black pine, atlantic arms)
Its spread out all over the city except most of the southside/riverside/east arlington/beaches
I've seen some crazy ass shit though, might be wearing tinted glasses..
>>581095962 Thanks for being courteous and expressing some appreciation. As opposed to the fucking idiots who suggest that I'm a fucking federal agent trying to get information for.... well, I don't know what the fuck they are thinking I would be trying to achieve by starting this thread, if I were, indeed, a fucking cop/LEO.
And like I mentioned earlier, the story really struck me and stuck with me, because it was so harshly violent. By the way, if you read towards the end of the comments on the page I linked, someone posted a link to a CNN article about an arrest being made in regards to the guy who shot the kid from that story. From what I recall, there was speculation that the guy in the ski mask who shot the kid was a drug dealer and a hitman. And I think that the guy in the ski mask and the kid who was shot had apparently/possibly killed another guy together, but this guy was worried about him snitching, so he killed him to prevent him from possibly talking to the police.
Here's the link to the CNN article about the guy being arrested and charged: http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/15/stretcher.killing.ap/index.html
>>581096014 Been lurking...W8n for CO to pop up. The springs, I'm nanative here, not bad with crime...alot of meth and house explosion s. Since weed got legalized dumbass rednecks try to extract hash and blow their houses up.
Motor City claimed the top spot for highest overall crime rate among cities with 250,000 or more residents, according to CQ Press' annual analysis of FBI data for 2011.
With 342 murders in 2011, Detroit trailed only New Orleans in terms of homicide rate. And the city reported the highest rate of assaults out of any other major city.
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The FBI warns that ranking cities based on crime data can be misleading because each city reports crimes differently and some crimes go unreported.
However, an increase in crime can have a significant negative impact on a population, according to a 2009 study by the Furman Center for Real Estate & Urban Policy at New York University. And Detroit's unsafe streets are aggravating the city's struggle to maintain its already-dwindling population, which has shrunk by 25% since 2000.
Even though it still ranks second on the most dangerous cities list, St. Louis is a lot safer than it used to be. Murders have been cut in half over the past two decades -- as have the numbers for other violent crimes.
Still, at about 35 murders per 100,000 residents in 2011, St. Louis claims the third highest homicide rate of any major city.
One reason St. Louis's crime rate is so high is that the city has not grown beyond its very constricted borders, according to criminologist Richard Rosenfeld of the University of Missouri, St. Louis. Other cities have expanded outward by swallowing up safer nearby communities, which helps dilute the overall crime stats. Oklahoma City's reporting area, for example, is nearly 10 times the size of St. Louis'.
If the safer St. Louis suburbs were counted into its crime statistics, the overall crime rate for St. Louis would be much lower.
Burglaries were one of the biggest issues facing Cleveland residents in 2011, with the number of break-ins and thefts climbing by 8.6% from the previous year. That gave the city the second highest burglary rate in the country -- next to Toledo, Ohio.
Street crimes -- robberies and assaults -- also continued to soar, with Cleveland second only to Oakland among the nation's 72 largest cities.
One area of improvement: The number of murders fell to 74, from 81 the year before.
In 2010, incoming mayor Mitch Landrieu cited a "systematic failure" of New Orleans' police department for its inability to bring down the city's soaring homicide rate.
"The police department is supposed to protect and serve, but right now it's not doing either of those things well," he said in a CNN interview when he first took office in 2010. "My top priority is to make this city safe. It can't be safe without a police department that people trust."
There's still a lot of work to be done. The city's murder rate is 20% higher than Detroit and nine times higher than cities like New York and San Francisco. The number of killings in the Big Easy jumped to 199 in 2011 from 175 the year before.
Newark's crime record appeared to be on the upswing a few years ago. March 2010 marked its first murder-free month in more than 40 years and shootings were down for three back-to-back years, falling 75% through 2009, Mayor Cory Booker told CNN in a televised interview.
But then budget constraints sparked by the recession forced the city to lay off one-sixth of its police force.
The rate of violent crime rose by more than 11% in 2011 compared with 2010. Street crimes spiked, with robberies up 23% and the city's robbery rate ranked third highest among the nation's cities.
In Atlanta, violent crimes have been a particular problem. Aggravated assaults, typically attacks with deadly weapons, were up 3% since 2010, to the fifth-highest rate among U.S. cities. Robberies jumped by even more, up 8%.
But there were signs of improvement in some areas. There were five fewer murders in 2011 and property crimes edged slightly lower.
Overall, Kansas City's violent crime rate is the ninth highest among big cities.
Aggravated assaults were prominent among the city's police reports and unfortunately, so were murders. Kansas City reported 108 murders in 2011, up from 102 the year before. That gave it the dubious honor of ranking seventh highest among the nation's big cities in terms of homicide rate.
>>581097893 This. The worse the place is, the more likely people will just keep their mouths shut rather than talk to cops. Not to mention doing so may just get you in a worse situation, gangs have shot people for less.
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