>>580790826 I'm in the same boat op. I want sons, because I'm afraid of how I'd react to a daughter. Not in a way that I'd ever do anything like pedo shit, but in a way I might hide a camera in the bathroom.
Even being around while my bro changes my niece's diaper weirds me out. T-thanks Internet..
my dad molested me a few times when i was a kid, and i'm still horrified about it. i understand that some of you have these thoughts, but please, don't act out on it. i wouldn't want that to happen to other kids out there. or your future kids idk
But anyways, my daughter's 12. She takes after her mother, who did Judo and Gymnastics in high school, solid 10. My daughter is definitely adorable, but I don't look at her sexually. I'm her father, when you're a father, you look at your own as your own, others as others.
>>580793742 what this anon said. I too have daughters and never felt that way about them, I guess the parent instinct kicks in and I would rather protect them, but if it was someone else's daughters...
>>580790826 Lot's of these responses go for normally. If he's already thinking bout this kind of thing, he's probably not completely normal. Maybe that shit that makes you not see shit like that won't be there for him
>>580790826 I have wondered about this too, but I have realized some things in my years: >Are some dads sickos who want to fuck their kids? Yes >Most dads Hell no!
>Be me >6 months old >Squirt diarrhea in my diaper >Ass, kid snatch, legs covered in pungent shit >Father wipes fecal matter >Diaper rash ointment applied to my inflamed rashy bits >feelsgoodman.gif >Father chokes back vomit as I proceed to spray again >Father loves me, takes care of me, wants nothing but to protect me >Father will never be able to look at me as an attractive young women without remembering the horror... And the no sexualized love most fathers feel for their children. It's a multidimensional issue. Most pedos don't even prey on their own children. It's just something that changes in you when they are your own. Can't say anything for their friends at sleep overs though..
>>580796092 *nonsexualized *parental *platonic: (of love or friendship) intimate and affectionate but not sexual. "their relationship is purely platonic"
>>580794902 I can understand a man, especially a young man being concerned/inquisitive about this. I don't think it really sounds like OP is interested in incest/Pedo shit (but it's /b so who knows). I understand how some people could question how other people might feel when they have a hot slutty teen living in their home. Hot slutty teen who is not your kid generally =s boner. Hot slutty teen who is your kid generally =s "no one better fucking look at or think about my baby"
>>580790826 So is it something that you are concerned about?
>>580800534 Not even trying to shit post or argue. I am honestly intrigued. As far as Pedo shit he asked about "when she gets hot" So that would lead most people to think that he was talking about when she went through puberty. Most pedos don't think kids are hot. They think kids are beautiful, innocent, sweet, enticingly pure.... Talk to me b/ro... I've already shared so much through my gree text story... I want to hear more of what you have to say friend
>>580793194 >I'd kill anyone who'd ever hurt her. >Anger issues. Have you thought about counceling? I mean, a kid shoves your niece and you fucking kill the little tyke? And her society thinks the pedos are the worst threats.
>>580801384 This is not my fetish but enjoy the porn, yet if my own father comes to mind while watching it, or if I can't really avoid reading "dad" "daddy" "father" etc.. I totally lose my chick boner. I like the "taboo" /incest stuff but only in the context of porn. I need to spend less time on the Internet
>>580802226 >be white cis privileged male >consider lowering privilege by fucking outside of my already perfect privileged family whites are still the most privileged, so maybe you should be asking why non-whites don't fuck their family.
>>580802275 I do have a sister, but thinking of my sister would kill it for me too. All my brother/sister stuff involves a sister that isn't anything like my real one. If I write a story, I take pains to not give her a similar name to my sister, or look or act similarly.
Incest is fun as an abstraction, because the extra level of taboo adds some fun without it being too weird for me.
Talking on the pedo-tangent here. I remember being quite the horny kid and looking at older women. I'm sure if we let kids decide when to fuck it'd be around the 5th grade age (This is when ALL my friends talked about wanting to fuck). I'm not saying adults would go full horny on them, but I think our species' adults were maybe supposed to serve as guides for the younger ones.
>>580790826 > me be 13 > at friends house > love his hot sister, 4 years older > ask him what it's like having a hot sister > he looks at me weird > says she's not hot she's my sister > me being only child did not comprehend that until that minute
Kind of like that. Unless you are seriously fucked in the head your daughter will never be "hot" to you. So no worries. If your daughter is "hot" to you, then you're probably going to fuck her, she'll become a stripper or prostitute at best, and you'll go to jail for child molestation when she eventually tells someone who alerts the authorities at worse.
>>580802226 >African tribes believe that to become a man young men must suck the knowledge from the penises of elders >African tribes believe that having sex with their virgin daughters will purify them and cute aids >Negro Americans have a higher rate of incestual rape resulting in pregnancy than whites in America.. >SandNigs/Indians are some of the worst on an international level but those stats are mostly estimated Looking for the stats.. Give me a sec on this.
The idea used to bother me. I was sexually active at an extremely young age. Now it doesn't bother me anymore. Girls tend to get hot when they mature (~16 years old) for me, but around my little neice it doesn't cross my mind.
I used to watch her crawl all over my dad's lap and I thought, "WTF am I crazy? I would have wood with some girl flopping around on my dick."
Now I have a kid myself and it neither crosses my mind nor do I have any wood from my kid rolling on my lap.
It just goes away.
Now if my girl was 16, and hot, I still think the paternal instinct would be stronger than the sexual one. Being a parent really changes the way you mind works. Only after becoming a parent did I really understand how my parents felt about me. It doesn't explain their crazy shit, but it helps.
Well mine are too young to be "hot" (yes I know where I am) but I doubt I'll ever think of them that way. It's like other female family members. If you are into incest I suppose you would be attracted to your daughters. If not then no.
>>580803286 Totally get it b/ro. My boyfriend and I even roll play lightly with it. I know it turns him on like crazy, but we don't talk about/act it out too much. Just a little kink/taboo in moderation heightens the experience at times. He doesn't have sisters, i don't have brothers so I can understand the turn on without having an individual to relate it to
>>580805375 Duh, /b/ is full of normalfags and those are normalfags. I'm not trying to insult anyone, I'm just saying incest as an idea, especially with someone pointing out "Oh, but I wouldn't do that" isn't exactly a rare fetish among normalfags. >>580805578 This is fucked up, and hilarious. I like it.
>>580790826 ITT exclusively wincest faggots trying to convince each other that their fucked up fantasies are anything but faggotous coveting of the only females who ever spent more than 5 minutes with them.
>>580806191 >the raw animal desire to kill anyone who so much looks at her is intense
I have a theory that this is the response people have when someone "from outside of your tribe" looks at your daughter, if it was say, someone very very close (like a brother, but not genetically your brother) that looked at your daughter that feeling wouldn't be there. In other words, I think that feeling is there to protect the tribe, but in big cities where most of the population doesn't know each other that feeling of wanting to hurt males who look at your daughter is ever-present
>>580806219 >"Hehehe, shhh anon, mom & dad are home they might hear us" >Instant raging boner >"It's ok, I'll be gentle" >Pushes me down and kisses me gently, pulling the sheets down that I just teasingly covered my breasts with >Slowly reach down and shyly caress him >Whisper in his ear "OK... if you promise" >FucklikecisgenderwillbeoutlawedTomorrow.png
>>580808139 >ITT faggots calling faggots faggots for the sake of calling faggots faggots on the false pretense of calling the faggot a faggot for being a faggot though the actions of the faggot fully justify the faggot treating the faggot as such ( a faggot)
>>ITT Faggot! You faggots are lounging in your faggot arenas searching for meaning in your files by faggotrous means. This might be achieved more quickly by exhibiting fewer faggotry traits and divorcing yourself from all faggotous intent.
>>580809287 >ITT a faggot tries defending is faggotry by mocking that of the other faggots, but alas, the faggot committed the utmost faggotry though the means by which he meant to separate his faggotself from faggotry itself.
I literally meant outside the tribe that you are in in the context of hunter-gatherer societies. In modern times you might think of it as a really close friend who is 'like family' but who genetically far apart enough to be attracted to your daughter in a non-incest way.
I always hear that people would 'hate and kill' if anyone touched their daughter, but then when the cousin does it no ones 'hates and kills' the cousin. I think that's because the cousin is in their primate minds 'a member of the tribe' and therefore the mechanism of 'hate/kill' doesn't trigger.
>>580790826 Proud to say daughter is very beautiful. I remember worrying about the same thing, but thinking completely changes the first moment you hold her. And you take care of her. And you spend a good part of your day every day for over a decade thinking about how to make life better for her. And better is for her to be attractive (but maybe not too attractive) And when she turns out that way, you are proud, you are happy, relieved that all the things that could have gone wrong didn't. and desire toward just isn't an issue.
>>580790826 From a scientific stand point, you won't be attracted to her. Humans are programmed to be attracted to he fittest, most able mate so they will pass on the best possible genes. Thus, natural receptors turn you away from your relatives because of the higher chance you will have a genetic mutation in your offspring.
>>580810946 Actually, people are attracted to people with similar genes. Relatives who haven't met since one or both were babies stand a higher chance of being attracted to each other than non-relatives. What keeps incest from happening more is that seeing someone being cared for and raised lowers your sexual attraction to them. Unrelated children raised together develop the same resistance.
Yours and several other families get together. Basically you give a green light for your daughter to have consensual sex with member of the other families, and in return you get to have sex with all the females of all the other families. Would you?
Ofc the member of the families are attractive, sane, etc
>>580810002 Anyone who molests will disappear. i've heard of fathers with a mutual aide pact with long-time friends who also have kids. i've heard they have talked through hypothetical disposal scenarios.
It is fact there the best genetic match for people is their 3rd of 4th cousin. Everyone on earth is at least 50th cousins. Back in the days of 150-200 people tribe everyone was your what? 6th 7th cousin at most?
Well I unfortunately am one of those that actually goes that step forward and well I always, with consent, fuck my own daughter on occasion. It's not that bad, she likes it for some reason and well I enjoy it because I am a guy. Funny thing though, I don't have a daughter. I made you read all this and probably feel disgusted or aroused.
>>580790826 No, we do not fuck our daughters. Get her into ballet, dancing, enjoy the view all you want as long as the mother is cool with it, there's no harm in looking. I know someone who literally watches his daughter strip and masturbate for him, his wife is cool with it. He's never touched her sexually once though. It's only illegal if you take pix.
Indeed. I used to have a HUGE boner for my sister when I was going through puberty. There was nothing I wanted more than to sink my cock into that space between her gorgeous legs.
I can't imagine why a particular sort of person would have a hard time getting all lusty for his offspring. Perhaps there is a barrier that must be crossed first, but once you are on the other side of it....?
>>580812414 BOY: shit baby you're so wet already GIRL: that's actually just vaginal discharge and my body is cleansing itself from bacteria and dead cells to prevent infection and to maintain optimal reproductive health i'm not even all that turned on right now and i would prefer to go get some food or something
>>580813535 >>580813736 um yea, but this is just fucked up because not everyone is sane or rational.. you are just giving bad ideas to people who could potentially hurt someone without realizing what they are doing. i hope you realize that, if not.. well im sure people are watching
>>580814776 appreciate the advice. at this age she not a sexual being. i will cross that bridge when i get to it. i dont look forward to what i know will be tough for me... but i can still remember being 15/16. parenthood is a tough balancing act always.
>>580814601 I used to have a bisexual gf who was into fucking her brother and sister. I was friends with her brother, who invited me to tag team her with him, and we started dating. We continued to include her sister and sometimes her brother, and another bro-sis couple that she had also played with.
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Must have been a ton of fun.... People are attracted to attractive people. Family relationships be damned. What really should be done here is psychoanalyze the moralizers (moralfags). They are repressed and suffering from too much Protestantism.
>>580813814 I think you're stay might be improperly reported, but I'm not from Spain, and I have not done any research regarding your country. If the stats are anything like the US. 1:3 -1:4 women claim to have been involved in"inappreciate" sexual situations before the age of consent. 99% of studies agree that most children are molested/have inappropriate sexual contact with a family member, close family friend, or some one explicitly trusted by the family. >No shit! Who lets their kid chill with unknown strangers? mirite? The crazy part is that the 1:3 stat is based on American culture telling girls that playing "doctor" or "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" is sexual assault, or a violation of their person.
"Fathers do not devote enough attention to the clitoris and vagina of their daughters. Their caresses too seldom pertain to these regions, while this is the only way the girls can develop a sense of pride in their sex," reads the booklet regarding 1-3 year olds. The authors rationalize, "The child touches all parts of their father's body, sometimes arousing him. The father should do the same." - German Government Publication
>>580815721 >The crazy part is that the 1:3 stat is based on American culture telling girls that playing "doctor" or "I'll show you mine if you show me yours" is sexual assault, or a violation of their person.
Religion and the Victorian era are still fucking us up.
Is the fundamental right of adult siblings to sexual self-determination more important than the abstract idea of protection of the family? Is criminal law the appropriate means to preserve a social taboo?
The goal is not to protect the family. What is intended here is to demonize and ostracize men. That is the ultimate goal and intent of things like expanded definitions of rape, the ever increasing age of consent, the invasion of male-only spaces by screeching activist Feminazis, etc., etc.
>>580806191 there must be some sort of triggering or biological mechanism in fathers that changes this attitude once the kin is 'of age' or something of the sort. if the father figure has a switch the changes when he feels that, regardless of the circumstances, if the child bares offspring of its own, it will have the necessary support to grow, survive, and procreate. once the intellectual and emotional switches that are flipped in regards to this scenario, it seems logical to assume that the fathers attitude will change in regards to viewing potential outsiders as 'mates' rather than 'predators' it has to be understood that each male will have a different set of triggers based off of genetics, social status, and economic well being. that is why it seems like we have the baseline of 18 for all people. kinda like the fact that circumcision is pretty uniform, as they have to account for the unintelligent ones that may not wash their dick and get infection.
>>580815739 3 long-time friends with similar life situations. we sometimes have theoretical "what-if" discussions. we all have similar concerns for the safety of our families. and we all know we can count on each other. we have been to wedding, a few divorces, and too many funerals together.
i have no doubt that if i threw up the bat signal i would have a tiny personal army sitting in a nearby hotel room within 24 hours, awaiting my word.
am i paranoid? are my buddies humoring me? i dont know and i dont want to find out. maybe all fathers have had similar discussions with their friends. maybe im the only one.
>>580813814 But Spain is a catholic shithole. The kids there masterbate in public like kids in America play hopscotch. Btw kids that are mostested are 100 times more likely to mostest other kids after growing up. So once in gets going in culture it spreads really fast after a few generations. Bloody Catholics
A little over a 100 years ago the AoC in R.I. was less than 10, I think. Things have changed quite a bit due to the action of moralizing busybodies. Recall that the Volstead act was motivated in great part by the activism of puritanical *women*, who wanted to legislate sin away.
It is a really toxic blend of damseling young girls, ostracizing men, protecting the privileged white female racket, internalization of gender-based victimization, Marxist-inspired struggle, etc.
You really have to consider the entire thing to realize just what an irrational fuckup Feminism is.
>>580817136 It's so dumb kids can't put financial stain their parents (by getting knocked up)and other tax payers before they can make a living wage for themselves, also, young people should not be preyed upon because they are not emotionally mature enough to develop healthy sexual relationships
American media only sexualizes youth and children. Anyone who has never been exposed to the megalomania and deception that is real life ends up fucked up in the head. Japan sells lolicon as an outlet for these neckbeards, and until 1980, America sold CP as a way for them to vent. When it became illegal, molesters came out of the woodwork, and private child sex shows exploded. If we really hated pedos, we would offer access to the CP database in exchange for voluntary offender registration. They are as much a cash crop as pot heads are.
Well if you care about having a real father daughter relationship with your daughter then you wont be able to do that ever after you fuck her.
Also when a woman/girl experiences that with her father she no longer understands how her father is supposed to love her which will distort the way she thinks a man should love her which will have a huge negative impact on her future relationships.
aaannd she will stop developing emotionally and will never be able to find out why she thinks she is so worthless.
Oh and when you have a daughter it changes you and you love her in a way that you have never loved anyone ever before. That will help you to not want to.
>>580817263 completely logical. have me and my friends had enough life experience to bring these discussion to the table? no, but that does not mean we do not abide by the same code that you do. it is only natural to protect your bloodline, but also, to demonstrate altruism and protect the bloodlines of those closest to you, as your own survival is enhanced because of the silent hand of trust. logic demands that as an answer. but then again, even if it was never discussed, i would take it upon my own to do what is necessary for them. and i do not need them to take my back as well, as it is impossible to completely trust someone until the situation occurs. therefore the worst case scenario is that i understand that all must be done by myself, so i must prepare and know methods to handle the situation by myself, even though it is favorable to work together. anyone can do this: no body, no crime.
but yes, i guess the next important topic to bring up with all of them is the protection of our families now discuss scenarios with our future families. luckily i also take this stance in regards to any service men as well.. docs, policemen, firemen, armed forces. they are silent guardians of our bloodlines, so i also keep in line the fact that they will be there when i am not. maybe not a perfect situation to protect in all scenarios, but much better than being left to defend on ones own. my country demands that attention be paid to their protection as well. i hope others understand that. this makes me want to discuss the ferguson situation. i actually have concern about the safety of the service men and women
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>>580818343 Waiting every year past puberty to reproduce causes cancer through epigenetic damage from environmental pollution. If individuals communities would come together and donate supplies and time to young couples, we could eradicate cancer. However, considering overpopulation and longevity, I would say that birth control has turned sexi into nothing but fun, not a blunt instrument of reproduction.
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