First PC BUILD HELP!!! picture related Had a friend come up

You should have gone for GTX 970. And your SSD is crap.

self bump . thoughts anyone?

Actually putting together a build for myself right now.

If it's just for gaming, you don't need the I7. Get an i5-4690K. Extremely comparable benchmarks (within a few FPS) and hundred(s) cheaper. Take the extra money and buy a 970 for a GPU.

>>573287337

That's exactly what I built today. Mini ITX. GTX 970 in the mail though.

>>573287839

sweeet thanks for the advice. other than that. its a good build for gaming. for such games as CIV5 rome total war, skyrim kind of games and Sims right?

>>573286470
You'll want to add a standard hard drive in if you want to install games, especially with this uncompressed audio bullshit developers are starting.

>>573287839
howd you go fitting that card into an itx case? I had troubles with a mATX thermaltake a30 case and a fairly longish card

Take back the graphics card and grab a r9 290 for $299 in canada or 269 in the states its worth the upgrade. The r9 280x is not based on the GNC 1.2 and wont have good compatability in the future.

>>573288453
thank you dude

>>573286470
Go with a standard hard drive. Upgrade to a SSD later. Also if you are looking to shave some bucks off the top, go for ivy and sandy bridge architecture. With a dedicated GPU and a K version CPU you will not loose much. Very few games exceed what my old 3770k can do. Gigabytes makes a solid mobo, but try to get a Nvidia card. They are in all the top systems. Don't skimp on GPU, but your okay cutting out the top end CPU's. For hard drives a WD is amazing, but for SSD's, try out a Samsung if you want one. 1TB minimum is kinda the basis, also, believe it or not, the stock fan will keep your CPU running healthy. Its a bit louder, but it will do it fine. Good ram too. Also, while not a top pick, the Tachyon PSU from Rosewill is backed by a 5 year warranty and is 80 plus platinum.

>>573286470
>had a friend design it

There's your problem, faggot.

>>573289120

i dont know shit about computers faggot

I have an ASUS R9 290 and I am super happy with it, but the price is a little off putting in the states. Somewhere around 330-450.

>>573289295

Then why are you trying to build one? This shit is for tech savvy people only. Just go buy your fucking Dell and be done with it.

IGNORE THAT GUY!
who ever tells you to go with a standard drive first really doesn't see the benefit of an ssd. The price on those SSDs is about 30 bucks more then a decent HDD and its worth it.

Use less space. use media streaming service and 256gb will be plenty for you.

the cooler should be swapped to a h100i if you can afford it. if not, look for a good deal on the noctua coolers. the deep silence really doesnt offer a huge benifit over a Hyper 212 from coolermaster with a decent fan upgrade. you can usually find 4 packs of cougar fans for around 20 bucks and they are decent fans.

Also look into Z87 motherboards with support for haswell refresh chips. M.2 isnt really a worth while benefit in my honest opinion. Raid 1 is still out performing M.2 atm.

>>573289518

haha okay kid

where do you live?

>>573289630
I have a SSD and a hard drive but the bonus you get from the space is worth it. SSD's are insanely expensive per gig compared to a HD. I get the difference. I own both for reason. SSD's are faster I agree. But HD's are far less prone to failure than they used to be and hold far more data per dollar.

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Just read from forums faggot

>>573289912
for what most people need now adays a hdd is overkill. i can get by with only 240gb of storage. i use streaming service for media and the only things i store are games. i play around 10 games at a time which fit on around 160gb no problem.

>>573289630
>who ever tells you to go with a standard drive first really doesn't see the benefit of an ssd.

An SSD is certainly a benefit, and I use one. But an SSD is not what you need for gaming, not with games approaching 20GB+ for "next gen." I'd say go with both, but a standard drive first if a choice has to be made.

I love my SSD and all, but the price difference is too great. My 1TB standard was 60$, compared to 135$ for my 250GB SSD.

>>573286470
>Nanoxia Deep Silence 1
Why spend 120 bucks on a case?

Rosewill Challenger-U3 is what I use, it's currently 53 bucks on amazon.

>>573290128
Well I have put all of my games onto a Samsung 840 that i play daily, but as this guys first build, he will probably wind up using this more for multimedia with mild gaming. Thats what almost everyone's first build turns into. Also, games are progressively getting larger, and unless you use steam exclusively, then you will probably need the extra space. I always have a WD black in my builds. Also, I do find the stock intel fans to work well if your not looking into overclocking... and usually I overclock GPU's far before I overclock my CPU's.

>>573290432
Rosewill cases have kinda faltered in quality in the past while. I have my build in a Thor V2 and for case price, its amazing, but the build quality and parts they use are kinda shotty to say the least. NZXT has been my go to for a while now, and while they are pricey, the quality is amazing on them. Also, coolermaster ftw.

>>573286470
To be honest the CPU should probably be an i5-4690k, which would give you another $100 towards an exceedingly more powerful GTX 970 of any make. The R9 280x pales in comparison, and the price vs the GTX just doesn't justify spending money on it.

Also I see you have an SSD (solid choice, they're reliable), but what's the hard drive you have in there?

Good choice on the case and fans, should be nice and silent.

I don't know enough about the monitor but 1440p is amazing IF your GPU can run it. I would expect to see some fprs drops in high quality or demanding games.

>>573289743

I guarantee I'm both older and have built more computers than you. Fucking with this stuff when you don't know shit is a good way to get involved in a money pit.

>>573291165

k

>>573290730
What kind of issue would you expect to run into? I've had it for 3 years now, been moved about twice a year(to and from university) and it's held up just fine, doesn't flex or bend on me or anything like.

If you want some real advice, see how close a Frys is to you. I live in DFW and there are several. Or a Microcenter. Since you're doing this without any background, you don't want to use Newegg or Tiger Direct because you're probably gonna be returning a lot of shit. Frys has a no questions asked policy. Plus they have a massive selection of parts.

>>573286470 if you follow this build and the monitor linked you will not be disapointed
http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-STAR-DP2710LED-PLS-Panel-WQHD-2560x1440-27inch-Computer-Monitor-/330932578190?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4d0d1e678e
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6rc499

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>>573290432
>>573290730

The Challenger is pretty nice for a "cheap" case. My only complaints are that there's almost no room to route cables and that it comes with a shitty blue LED fan. You have to get creative with the cable routing if you aren't using a modular PSU.

Mine has a handful squeezed behind the motherboard tray, a few running parallel up the front panel, and the rest shoved under the hard drives. And swapping out the front LED fan is a must.

>>573291165
How the fuck is he supposed to learn then? I don't know about you, but I learned it by fucking with stuff when I didn't know shit, and I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only 12 year old ripping PCs apart and building new PCs out of the parts.

>>573291285
Well with the few rosewill cases I have dealt with, i felt the quality to be shotty. My current Thor V2 has a cheap frount panel where the USB 3.0 has already given out, the audo jack on it is tripe, and the LED's in the case failed after 3 months. Checked the Mobo in a NZXT case I had for a different build and the Mobo was fine. The Hard drive trays are kinda cheap, and the tool less bays, the lock piece is already busted. Its great for the price, and the rigidity is pretty good, but the plastic parts and their work they did on it is just bunk.

>>573289295
You're a fucking idiot, you are not in the right here. Don't act like a cunty little tweenie, acknowledge that you've blown a lot of money because of your foresight.

You gave some guy who you thought had experience in PC building and said "here's my budget - tell me what to do." Quelle surprise when he makes an unbalanced and needlessly expensive build.

You SHOULD have asked for the final build and posted it around on 4chan and reddit's /r/buildapc (inb4 reddit, when you're spending thousands of dollars suck it up and get a broad selection of advice) as well as any resident tech forums like linustechtips or tomshardware. This shit ain't hard you fucking idiot.
That way you would have been able to identify any issues early on and optimise your build (quite substantially in terms of the GPU and CPU).

>>573291651
>cheap case

Cheap cases are fine, I just wouldn't go with an all plastic one, for thermal and efi reasons.

>learn
I agree, but he doesn't seem to be here to learn. He got the build from a friend, and he's asking us to tweak the design. Which I don't mind helping with, but he's never gonna learn shit that way. My impression is that he is unwilling to learn anything.

>>573291751
really the only thing wrong with this build is the i7 being a bit overkill and the r9 280x. a 290 at todays prices would do him great at 1440p. I would know i have one and a 1440p monitor.

>>573292042

**emi

Get. Gtx 970 a smaller power supply 500 min 650 max drop the i-7 go for the best i-5 and either go with a noctua NHD-15 or a good AIO liquid cooler now you can upgrade the ram and hard drive space oh also you'll have a much more powerful computer you're welcime

first build.

>>573292042
The only plastic part is the front cover. The main body and hard points are all metal.

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>>573292201
forgot pic..

>>573292115
I completely agree. R90 or GTX 970 would do him well. However, they're also the most expensive components and the ones his friend has fucked up on. Tweaking them around a bit would allow him to reallocate money.

Nice wire routing!

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You should get this:

>>573292115

i7 is overkill. What I usually do is price several CPUs that are what I need, and try to find the "sweet spot" in the pricing scheme that will give me the most bang for the buck. For now that's probably somewhere around a slower i5.

And buy the best, fastest matched set of RAM you can find.

>>573286470
I hope that's not yours. Too much positive airflow. You want it near equal. Nice choice on the Noctuas at the bottom.

You've got great everything, but the video card is weak. Go for the 970; better gflops, efficiency, and it's goddamn brand spanking new. Plus nVidia is great with drivers.

Source: I sell this shit for a living and manage a major store most of you fags probably shop at.

>>573291751
>ignore last paragraph. I see that you're doing it now.
But seriously, you should be researching this yourself as well as getting second opinions.

>>573292042
>plastic
Basically what >>573292228 said. Only the front panel is plastic. Does anyone even make 100% plastic cases?

>I agree
Yeah, absolutely. Asking about this stuff beforehand would definitely have been a better route for him. Fixing it afterwards shouldn't even happen.

>>573286470
You do not need an i7. get an i5 4670k instead.

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>>573286470
follow this simple webm guide

>>573292251
Nice blue LEDs you fucking dork. How many hours of WOW have you logged on that beast?

>>573288223
I used a Corsair Obsidian 250D case. It takes up to 12" of card.

>>573292572

Yeah there are some shitbag $30 cases at Frys that are all plastic, with the exception of the frame. They are real trash though.

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>>573292608
For a second I thought you said WebMD and all i could think is "Its cancer"

>>573292608
oh fuck this is great
like it starts off pretty much right but then

>>573292636
Only nice gpu cooler fans I could find. Would take out LEDs, but didn't want to mess with wiring.
Don't play WoW

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>>573292456

>>573292608
I followed exactly as shown but all I ended up with was a shit Mac

>>573292636

C'mon man, my 2007 build had those flashy blue LEDs. Many nights stoned playing BF2 on that fucker and those lights made me so happy..

>>573292636

>poor fag who can't afford a gaming rig, detected.

I doubt the anon had much of a choice if it had LEDs or not. Go wallow in the mediocrity of console peasantry

>>573286470

y is ur psu upside down

>>573289630
1tb HDD is about 70-80 bucks and will last you pretty much forever (until you are going to make another computer ((4-5 years down the road)) a ssd of the same price won't last a month sssd's are a "luxury" item and you always want to have enough storage space to do whatever yo need to do in the future so an HDD is a must however a 250-250 GB ssd is only about $100 and well worth the price but it should never be either ssd or HDD it should be HDD and then ssd

>>573286470
256gb SSD?
Really? Drop down to a 100gb ssd and spring for a 1-2tb hdd.

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>>573292775
Wow, really? The last $30 case I owned was all metal. It was flimsy as fuck, but still metal.

>>573292636
>not knowing blue LEDs cool your system better
pic related

has OP abandoned thread?

also my rig: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/PRF499

>>573293046
I don't play computer games. I fuck bitches and make money. Have fun in your mom's basement, faggot.

>>573293424
>I don't play computer games.
>I fuck bitches and make money.

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

>>573293424
If you don't game, then why come to a thread about someone building a gaming rig. Do you gain sustenance from being a pissant on the internet?

>>573293624
/thread

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>>573293424
if you make money then you can pretty easily have a good computer to play games on. Poor fags like you it's a "can I afford this or that."

Not being on 4chan also helps with fucking bitches, but I have no trouble.

>>573286470
I agree that Nanoxia case is sexy, but you don't need something that big and expensive lol. For your build, you don't need that much juice coming out of your PSU. SAPPHIRE has bad cooling configurations, go with EVGA or ASUS. Get a gtx 970. If you're just gaming, an i5 will do (my 2500k still kicks ass). Just get a 1tb HDD and 100gb SSD (preferably Samsung or ADATA).

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>>573293424
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ry2xRB pls r8

>>573293731
that saphire cooler is rated the single best cooler for that gpu nothing else touches it. Saphire used to be shit back in 2008-2012

>>573293424

I love it when middle schooler's find /b/, adds some entertainment.

>>573289630
Seriously ignore this guy he is dispensing nothing but bad advice
M.2 comparability is something to look out or and you want it ESPECIALY if you aren't buying an ssd with the computer and are looking to upgrade later for $50 more than a 240g ssd you can get a 256g m.2 ssd which is going to be roughly 75%-100% faster its definatley something I would splurge on

>>573293887
oh haha, yea I don't really keep up with sapphire anymore nor amd stuff. But I'm running a sapphire 6950 so yea.

>>573293879
Looks fine to me. You can drop the 6350 to a 6300 and just overclock it to save $25 if you want.

>>573290432
I love my CoolerMaster 690ii Advance

>>573293879
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ry2xRB
for what its worth id only change 2-3 parts 8/10
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ZJtQLk

>>573291751

I HAVEN'T BOUGHT ANYTHING YET FAGGOT!!!

hence why im asking for ADVICE now. fucking dumb assses asssume shit

>>573293879
7-8/10
I prefer intel, but its alright

>>573293240

Yeah they are $30 AND plastic. But they also had a shit CPU included, like 275W I think.

My last case was a Thermaltake but I can't seem to find an image of it. The entire case broke in half and the baseplate dropped right out so shit could be accessed, then you could just snap it closed. And it had blue LEDs, kek. If I remember correctly it set me back around $130.

>>573294005
link a review. the samsung m.2 is the only one breaking 500mb/s currently and they are around $1/gb

>>573294353
don't forget to buy windows 9 :^)

>>573294097
lol i just rebuilt my rig to sell to a friend and its got a sapphire hd 6950 in it. im actually surprised at how well it runs most mainstream games at 1440p

>>573294287
that case is beautiful

>>573294468

Nah, DOS 5.1 is the next big thing.

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>>573294437
>also had a shit PSU included, like 275W I think.
But why?

>My last case was a Thermaltake
Which one?

>>573291573
>if you follow this build and the monitor linked you will not be disapointed
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/X-STAR-DP2710LED-PLS-Panel-WQHD-2560x1440-27inch-Computer-Monitor-/330932578190?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4d0d1e678e
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6rc499
Bump for op's sake

>>573294608
you are welcome. Also that PSU is fucking overkill. Comes with a 5 year warranty and is gold certified semi modular. for the extra 20 bucks you get an amazing price to performance ratio

>>573294737

Dunno, I suppose for retards who think 275 is all they will need.

I forget the specific model and from what I can tell it's obsolete. Its been a few years. I'll see if I can find an image.

>inb4 just look on the case

Yeah that box got stolen. I'm using a Netbook at the moment.

>>573294753
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6rc499

wheres that GTX 970 everyones saying i should get?

>>573295037
>I'm using a Netbook at the moment.
Ouch

>>573294464
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=20-148-694http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=20-148-798
The write is literally 2x faster

>>573295129
its an extra 130 bucks right now because of demand. it performs about 10% better however at higher resolutions then 1080p its actually about 2-4 frames better. Also good luck finding stock of a 970 atm they are sold out just about everywhere.

>>573294885
I already kind of built it and just wanted some feedback but thanks for the advice. The one thing I probably regret is my case, any advice for future me when I undergo my second build?

Update: My case was similar to the Thermaltake V71 full tower. That's not the one I had, but I believe it's the evolution of my case, since mine was a minute ago.

>>573295246

Yeah the mighty have fallen. Don't have the epic bread to put into a new build.

>>573295287
the write is 5% better then the sata version of the same drive dude. the only ssd atm with a noticeable performance jump is the Samsung XP941 at around 750mb/s read/write

>>573295383

>advice

Mine would be to spend a bit more and get a modular case that allows easy access.

>>573295605
I'll make a note of it. Thanks for you advice kind anon

>>573295295


i can run CIV and games like Skyrim rome total war on that build with no problem right?

>>573295383
seriously just do what you are doing now. make a thread dude ill be around. try linustechtips.com or tomshardware.
and pay attention to whats out there. Linus media group does some of the best reviews out there. Kitguru will keep you up to date on things coming out and decent reviews aswell.

My current Build that I am playing on. About to either get a big overhaul or a total new build.


http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/bHRzHx

r8 pls

>>573295605
the s340 is just that at the exact same price. you dont need to spend more to get a decent case. you just need to know whats out there.
an alternative would be the spec R from corsair aswell.

>>573295668

Once this computer building thing takes a hold of you, you'll always be opening your box up for some mod. This shit gets in your blood. The easier your mobo is to get to, the happier you will be.