Feminist Thread. What are the arguments against Emma's speach favouring feminism, or are you all just trolls like this article is pointing out?
"Whereas the mainstream media lauded Watson's impassioned speech as "game changing" and "powerful," the "men's rights" trolls on 4Chan had their own opinions on the matter.
Although Watson's speech highlighted how feminism has nothing to do with man hating and explicitly took time to talk about how most men are awesome - these ignorant trolls somehow managed to find it glaringly offensive.
Their response? To launch a website with countdown timer that, they claim, will release Emma Watson's private nude photos in four days time." http://moviepilot.com/posts/2014/09/23/what-these-vile-hackers-are-doing-to-emma-watson-is-truly-disgusting-2292091?lt_source=external,manual
>>570253061 Listened to the speech, it was clever to point out that feminism is not man hating yet when you allow feminists to ask the question "why do women get paid less" "why does slut shaming exist?" ect the final answer will be "Because MEN! MAN'S FAULT!"
>>570253720 Forgot to mention, the rumours about these threats came from feminists sites, without any source what-so-ever. And after that social media was in a wild fire without the moments hesitation to fuel their fire.
Any shithead can start a fire in social media. That is why 4chan is always loosing no matter what.
>>570253545 women don't get paid less *for working the same jobs* slut shaming happens because women's vaginas have immense social power and shaming sluts is the only way to try and suppress that power.
women get paid less because they are too much pussies to fight for the money. women agree to payment men would never agree too because they have the balls speak out their mind; thats a biological problem, women tend to have as few conflicts as possible
>>570253061 The best argument against her speech is that she was only allowed to give it because of how good looking she is. If it weren't for the vast crowd of worshiper who have developed a pedo crush on her while watching her grow up from underage to sex symbol, no one would have cared about her, and she wouldn't have a chance of delivering a speech anywhere but to her bored friend.
In the same time, people who spent decades studying gender related problem in academic field get no exposure. Meaning that her speach no matter what it's into is a great example of perpetuating the cliché that the only thing that matter on a girl is how hard she can make most penis.
I dont think there really are any pictures. And if they're going to be released it will mean: 4chan really did it or Feminists made a martyr out of her
Or... what if she makes herself a martyr.. That would be the most interesting way this could end. And after all media following her since childhood, could we really blame her? Also all you perverts in here.. Yeah im talking to you. You are the reason.
I'm not a feminist nor am I an anti-feminist. Biggest question I had from watching her speech was:
She talks about allowing boys to be vulnerable and sensitive, rather than having to be closed and aggressive. Is it possible to completely dissolve male identity? And would it actually be a good thing?
Truly a nice speech. And by the gods, take note anons, this is probably the first time we heard a "feminist" speak out for men not to order them about - don't do this, don't do that- but for them to be actually free to manifest their feelings and behaviour however they liked. Same thing for women. She was pretty much "gender neutral" in her speech and in fact, as >>570255327 pointed out, feminazis kinda got blown the fuck out.
Whoever made that countdown website is pretty much a huge fool - yes we all love nude pics I know, for the faps, the shitstorm, the lulz. But this time it was solely out of revenge for her giving a "feminist" speech. Some neckbeard who fapped to her got mad that she crossed the line talking about woman (and men)rights and reacted like a spoiled little brat would do. I say we take down that website. Not because it's the right thing to do, but because it's making us look like 12 year olds who just got their lollipop taken away by mommy.
>>570256386 >thinking people who dance on screen are influential figures who can lead youths in the right direction
LOL this is why this movement will never amount to anything. Akin to how Hitler axed his best generals in the height of German power during the invasion of Russia and replaced them with retards who have completely no idea what they are doing
>>570256280 There's no need for boys not to cry if they're hurt, and tell when they're scared. Just like there's nothing wrong in telling girls who trip to get the fuck back on their feet, brush their knees, check to see if they're bleeding and if not then run back out and play.
This is how I deal with my kindergarten playground. People cry for a reason, they get on the lap and are comforted and soothed till they're ready to run back out there and enjoy the rest of the summer. People make a scene for no reason I tell them (in a very gentle manner) to toughen up, joke about the fall, or any other distraction to make them realise they don't need to cry. Encourage the little ones to brush off pain if they're not actually hurt, but also teaching them that no matter who and why they're ALWAYS welcome in a warm hug if they need it.
That's not dissolving masculinity. That's not turning girls into dykes. That's just making sure to do my part to ensure a generation of proper kids who aren't egotistical or emotionally neglected.
>women can't seem to manage bringing themselves up to a useful standard, so instead let's encourage men to sit down and cry when they encounter a problem instead of solving it >this is what feminists actually believe
There are many problems facing women today that are caused almost solely by men and our behaviour. The fact that there are many problems today facing men, and almost solely men, does not solve the other problems.
Watson highlighting some of these problems is NOT a problem. It is a path to the cure.
And also she looked so hot at the UN my dick literally sprang forth from my pants and jizzed all over my keyboard.
Who has the cash to hire a respected viral marketing firm, to make a website offering nudes of Emma Watson, without invoking lawsuits and ruining the reputation of everyone involved?
The only possible answer: EMMA WATSON.
Clearly, this is part of her Feminism Awareness Campaign.
And she is SLANDERING 4CHAN TO PROMOTE FEMINISM.
Are you guys gonna let her get away with it?!
I'm lazy as fuck, but some of you are activists and know how to get shit done. The thing to do is to RUIN HER CAMPAIGN BEFORE THE "BIG REVEAL" (obviously not nudes, but some feminist bullshit). Get the word out that the site was commissioned by Emma herself.
Ruin her little "prank"! Because seriously, fuck her. DO IT FOR THE LULZ.
>>570253061 >Nudes of countless other celebrities released on varied dates >Someone posts a date for emma watsons' nudes >Nudes released of people who aren't feminists >Must be targetting her because she's a feminist
>>570256491 I like you. >>570256540 >implying nudes of her exist She's a woman. She has 10gb of selfie nudes or semi nudes. You fucking degenerate. >>570256625 How is it losing if, by ANY FUCKING MEANS, we end up with her nudes spread online? I don't fucking care if this site is terminated and shut down; I'll go to 7chan. If Emma Watson has her slut photos released and they end on /b/, then fuck what the feminazis have to say or think they can do. Fuck it... I win. You win. Everybody fucking wins. >>570256702 O dopn't evn >>570256709 I'm not even mad. >>570256897 Anything involving Emma Watson's nudes spread on /b/ is not foolish. You're a worthless piece of human trash and leftover pieces if you think so. Your entire post is moot. >>570257007 Being a neckbeard I can say that I doubt we all hate her for being a woman. Personally I love her roles in everything I've seen and I like the thought of putting my dick in her.
>>570255190 It's really only in higher positions for well-paid careers that show a disparity in the rate of promotion for men and women, but even then, they can't attribute it solely to sexism.
Repeating that bull shit "70 cents on the dollar" pay gap is just unscientific, and calling someone a misogynist for pointing it out is anti-science. ignorant feminists (pop-feminists, t-shirt activists, SJW's, etc.) are always trying to talk about equality in front of the camera, but you can see their bias against men easily because they don't actually believe in equality. They believe that any time a woman has less than a man, it's the man's fault for having more and refuse to look at contradictory evidence because it's easier to keep believing what you already believe. Consequently, people like that who refuse to learn are paid less in society, because their brains aren't valued as much as someone who can think critically.
This is the result of the dawn of the internet age. Suddenly, everyone has libraries of knowledge at their fingertips, but because they didn't grow up with it, the public school system didn't teach them to question the knowledge they are presented with, OR to think critically about how to answer those questions. Technology has outpaced our education system. Feminists like this and other armchair activists were taught to be ignorant. Not because of sexism, but because America has failed to change. The solution is better education in critical thinking and problem solving. Wrote memorization is useless now that we have the internet. These feminists are really good at memorizing statistics, but ask them why those statistics exist and they can only give you a surface answer...
Then, they call you an ignorant pig for not trusting them.
>>570254516 her speech was to raise awareness for her organization, i'm imaging that they'll provide help, medical care and attention to underprivileged women as well as "raise awareness" which is the only real way to make "equality" happen
>>570257935 >troll shaming I nearly swallowed my tongue... >>570258052 Why would you stutter online? The fuck is WRONG with you? And what's there to thank for? I didn't give you anything. I didn't compliment you. I didn't throw a virtual thumbs-up your way for something witty you said. The fuck you acting grateful for? FUCK... You're making me go all black man on you, fool!
>>570257869 hellooo ? I'd like Emma's nudes as much as you do, but taking them just because she gave a speech is just retarded. Just take them and be done with it. Now people think we fap in anger to feminist celebrities. Still going all the way from shithole of the internet to laughing stock of pretty much everyone.
>>570258220 Kindergarten in Denmark, a little different. You can call it pre-school, sortof... Integrated nursery-and-kindergarten institution of about 60-something kids varying from 8 or so months to 6 years (going to school next summer-age).
So yeah, I'm doing my part to ensure that every year I send off 10-15 (depending on age and such etc) sane, well-rounded, socially adept kids off to school. Kids who can run into a door frame and smack their face without screaming as if someone gunned down their mother, but who will also seek adults if something scares them (rather than freak out and be paranoid and wonder if something's wrong on their part - predators online, for instance). I'm not a hero, I know I'm probably not making a difference. But I tell myself I am and this makes me get up at 4am on early days and 5.30am on late days with a big-ass smile on my face. How's your life?
>>570257078 This is how you raise a generation of pussies like the current one we are looking at.
We are in the middle of self entitled little vaginas in the western world now and it's not a good thing. They were raised with this mind set in mind and now they complain about hard work, their feelings, etc. While we raise a group of men that talk about their feelings and how it's ok to cry and voice their inner feelings, we will lose the backbone that made men men and what we built will crumble under women.
>>570258765 Thank you anon. Really, thanks a lot. I would not have thought that this apparent quarrel this website is having with "sjws" could stoop to such low actions, but after phil fish auto ddosing and doxing his website, I shouldn't be surprised. Thanks again.
>>570259064 That's pretty cool, man, good for you for finding something you love. And I would definitely say you're making an impact, early teachers had a huge impact on me as a person
Hows my life? I just nailed a neuroscience, all I have to do tonight is read some buddhism, work up the nerve to ask out a qt with a southern twang, and then smoke some weed with said qt. Plus it's below 85 for the first time since march, so I'll come out and say life's pretty good
>>570257872 >most people in leading positions all over the world are men... how does the women hold "immense social power"? First of all, social power. Not any other power.
However there are some other examples of the power of the pussy: Hillary Clinton. Who would she be without her pussy? Michell Obama? Who would she be... Any fucking woman married to a millionaire/billionaire? Those guys are fucking beta as hell when it comes to women, and they can control their men, because if they leave them, they will get a hell alot cash.
Dont you have any ability to reflect at all?.. I am disapoint
>>570258424 The fuck if I know? Every woman I've been almost-dating have been sending me countless nude photos, toilet-selfies (fucking thate those) and similar. Had one who was like.. 15 sending me a VERY hot pic over Skype... had a long talk to her about what she had just done and how it was a nice gesture of faith and loyalty, etc, but that she was naïve to think we'd live happily ever after, no matter how much we both would really hope that could happen. It's deleted, because I'm one of those really freaky weirdos who sometimes do the right thing. (and yeah I'm a little sad I did, but I was making a statement).
.. she broke down crying telling me how she suddenly felt like a slut, it had been her first time sending that and so on. She just wanted to make me happy, etc. She did. I think I loved her for it, really... that trust! She also promised never to do that again - bet you $100 she's sent 10-100 to other guys already. >>570258608 So you're saying you don't think any Emma Watson nudes will be leaked? If this is the case then clearly it wasn't an NSA agent grabbing the nude shots. Oh well, damnit. >>570258687 #REKT >>570258785 Her nudes have 0% to do with whatever speech she's held. Her nudes should be taken by any means necessary if possible simply for the reason that I would like to see them. If I can't get 'em, she's holding on to them strong enough. If I can, then they're mine. >entitled bal bla bla rape culture patriarchy Whatever. I'm out of _that_ debate and sure you're right, I'm a pig and a monster and a rapist. I also work around .8-6-year-olds every day and mold and shape and influence them. Suck my dick, white knight faggatron.
>>570258050 Also, because the disparity in promotion rates I mentioned at the beginning is so small and localized to so few career fields, it is not a societal problem. It is a problem in those career fields.
That's like finding a mole on your arm and making the assumption that your entire body is riddled with cancer.
>>570259347 I have no idea if the whole false flag thing I linked you to is accurate, but it sounds solid, and it would fit with a narrative of 4chan not having her nudes, because they definitely would already have been dumped
>>570260104 >My friend asks me to tell her something nobody else knows >Fuck that, I'll just say I spend too much time here >"Isn't that the place full of neckbeards and MRA? >No eloquent way to say that I'm here for the music recs, the stupid shit that happens sometimes and to laugh at the idiots this place attracts
>>570259154 No. This is how we raise a generation of people who know that the adults around them see them, care for them, but also expects some decency and initiative from them. I'm not going to argue with you about this. If you disagree with me, chances are you're American and from one of those "boys need to fight and get it outta their systems and its cool to not give rhitalin to ADHD because adhd doesn't exist"-kinda people. I don't have time for adult retards, sorry. >>570259405 I threaten them before hand. >falling down from there's gonna get you beat the fuck up, so hold on tight -omg anon you can't beat up us kids! >Nope. But the ground will... -ooohh. Hah! >>570259653 Sounds cool. But what's your line of work? Please don't be some rich dude who inherited a shit ton of cash and just relax.. you gotta have some kind of dream? Something you really care for and have a burning passion for? Other than smoking. Also, if you're ever in Europe come by Denmark and try some of our weed. Friend of mine was at an afterparty with either 50cent or that other black rapper guy (snoop Dog?) - can't tell which 'cause I don't give a fuck - and he passed out 'cause what we grow and smoke is stronger than what he's used to. If you really love it and travel, drop by and have a BLAST. (also, we have AWESOME beer)
>>570260903 I'm a student right now, that was supposed to say neuroscience midterm. In terms of dreams? Play music, do psych research, travel a ton (definitely up to Scandinavia since i'm mostly norwegian) and go backpacking/camping/hiking as much as possible
And I would love to get some quality european beer. Last time I was in Europe, I had just turned 15, and I hated all the beer in germany that I tried, which kills me because I know I would fucking love it. At least I live in New Orleans and Chicago, who both have insane microbrew scenes
>>570260025 >doxing his website You dox people. DDoS attacks are different than..- fuck this. >>570260103 Oh, I'm not saying you did. I just came to realise it and figured I'd put it as inb4. >>570260104 Your girlfriend sounds like bad company. >>570260287 The fuck do I know? They need the mirror or whatever? Best shit is when they don't even turn the phone, but flash into the fucking mirror. Fucking degenerates. At least, however, this usually also means they give tremendous nice head from years of practice. >>570260424 It's at 00:00:00 for me. Fuck that shit site. >>570260449 Fuck yeah, you outblack that bitch! >>570260715 This is seriously the best job in the world. >>570260848 >Yeah. -But anon... omg >continues playing vidya -anon are you an MRA >yeah. -but anon i'm a woman >yeah. etc. etc. etc.
>>570260903 >I have no valid points so I'll just call everyone retards and dismiss opinions that go against mine.
You're a fucking try hard faggot.
You shouldn't care that there are "other adults that care about you". ADHD is severely over diagnosed and studies are being done on the effects of nutrition on it (shit diets, lots of sugar and caffeine). Get fucked with your shit idea on how to raise children, I can't wait for your kids to grow up and a conflict breaks out either personal or global and they get walked all over.
I am here to lol and wank not take this stupid fucking bitch seriously Fuck you /b/ you are really turning into fucking cancer Too many sjw cunts due to moot sucking feminist trap cock I'm aborting 4chan for awhile I can't stand this faggotry anymore
>>570253061 >"men's rights" trolls LOL! They must secretly love us for all of this.
They hate the idea of men having equal rights so insanely much that they'll use every possible opportunity to demonize them.
BUT WE'RE JUST ANTI FEMINISTS HONEY! WE JUST HATE YOU FOR YOUR RETARDED CULT!
Men's rights activists have no time for this. They're too busy working their ass of in order to pay alimony and keep a roof over their head at the same time, so they hopefully may see their children once a month.
>>570261451 HAHA! I thought you meant that you had just fucked one. Or was about to... cool! Neuro-anything is fucking awesome! And dreams? So brain-shizzle... Wish I had the patience and knack for math to study that. Oh well - I'll just see the wonders of the brain in action :) I play, too! Piano here, trying guitar but my fingers are retarded or something. If you go Denmark for beer I can recommend literally everything that is 4.6% or higher. If you're into the sweet stuff try our "Årgangsøl" (Anniversary beer) it's alright in 2014, but nothing will ever beat 2009. Ehm.. Masterbrew is good, tood. Elephant, of course. Some of the smaller breweries are excellent. Skovlyst is awesome and wonderful...
>>570253061 Her arguments are based on faulty information. The wage gap is down to womens' choices, not misogyny. Also, equality doesn't mean being literally numerically equal. Women can be anything they want to, the reason there aren't more women engineers for example is because not a lot of women choose to do it. The reason they don't choose to be engineers is because they in general are not interested in it.
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