>>567789681 edgy but true, i grew up around alot of people from this era. most are selfish, and so materialistic that all they can say is important in life is getting a good education, and earning money, and disregard helping family in crisis, and look more towards fitting 'societies image' and fitting in with the norm. most of these people are white, but there are white washed darker skins like this aswell.
I worked in a retirement home for a year and a half. Most of the people there were just ignorant of how bad their generation had screwed up, but there were a few that acknowledged the situation we were in. And then there were the radicals, people who genuinely believed they had done no wrong. They hated the younger generation, probably because their kids had dumped their asses in a retirement home.
One woman pushed me over the edge. Her name was Sue.
>helping a nice old man with his breakfast >he just had hand surgery so he needed help eating >Sue sits down next to us and glares at me like she always does >"Good morning," I say "Can I help you with anything?" >"You and your whole good-for-nothing cohort can clean up the shit all over the bathroom, some honest work will do you good." >Go to bathroom >Shit everywhere >Know that Sue did it, but won't be able to prove it >Our supervisor talks to her >She says it was an employee who was rebelling against the policies of George Bush >Whatever
>At a forum for the residents about the economy >Sue starts ranting about how the World Wars saved the economy >Points at me >"Your generation is just too lazy and stupid to start a good world war!" >My jimmies are rustled >The moderator tells Sue to be constructive >"I am being constructive! I'm not going to be all soft like these young kiddos are used to! They need discipline!" >I bristle slightly and say "Sue, the only one in this room showing absolutely no discipline is you. Stop acting out or I'll have to ask you to leave." >"You can't talk to me like that!" >Seen enough >Escort her out with the help of my buddy >Get her into the hallway >No one is around >Casually push her down >She can't get up >My buddy looks at me with huge eyes after what I just did >Call medical and say she was struggling and she fell >Ends up needing hip surgery >The hallway camera was at an angle that made it look like she just fell >No one believes that I pushed her >Work another few months and quit
>>567789681 Sounds like you're just a butt-hurt lazy millenial, who thinks grandad should just give your parents all his money so they can buy you that car yu think you deserved. Boomers worked hard and took what was thiers. Generation x'ers couldnt figure out things like finances or not spending more money then they actually have to save their life. Then they had even more self-entitled children, and now the world is fucked.
I still feel a little bad about it. I mean she was a total bitch and all but I broke her hip. But at the same time she was a total bitch and I had to clean her shit out of the bathroom, so I feel like I got what she deserved.
I wish I had worked there longer. For the most part it was actually pretty fun. The seniors who are genuinely grateful for you can just make your day sometimes. Now I work as mall security part of the time and these fucking tweenagers need to be pushed down the stairs. They're almost as bad as Sue.
>>567795210 I agree that Generation X is fucked and so is Generation Y but to say that the Babyboomers worked hard for their shit is just fucked up.
Babyboomers had a beautiful world that could support life abundantly and they turn it into a shit stew with so many fucked up problems that other generations don't even know where to start.
Hard work is important but its not necessary with all our technology. Unchanneled work just leads to shit jobs and a shit world.
We need leaders to be honest where our work needs to be spent so that we can all enjoy this world comfortably and sustainably; but alas, babyboomer anti-communist sentiment will prevent us from reaching this reality until every one of them are dead. RIP
>>567796458 Odd, you can be so close to the point but miss it. Boomers did work hard, but were blind little sheep lead down this path by their corporationist overlords. They were the ones who could have stopped them, and they missed their chance. Pretty much every generation since has been brainwashed into being fat lazy slobs who would never even think of revolting.
>>567796386 Break my hips? I don't think you know just how many hips are marching beside me. Nonetheless, you can't kill an idea. Our queen will usher in the new era. The matriarchy shall rule this world. DIE CIS SCUM!
>>567795586 Not old people, not young people. Like I said most of the old people were great. They really appreciated me.
The difference is that young teenagers are more spoiled as a group. I only have to deal with the worst of them though, like shoplifters and people who get into fights. Most of them I never even notice.
Alright, since people seem to care, here's one of my better mall stories.
>Be me >On my break, roaming through the food court eating free samples >Talking to the Pei Wei lady about the new restaurant coming in >Suddenly she stops >Says "Hey Anon, I think those kids are stealing that plant" >Turn around >Group of three 12-15 year olds are walking out of the mall with a decorative plant >Just stand there for a second thinking "What in the fuck?" >Run over there >They see me >Drop the vase and it tips over, spilling dirt everywhere >The three kids run >I'm not technically allowed touch them unless I'm in danger >Tell them to stop >They run to a pickup truck right outside the door >The actual cops see me running and stop the truck >The kids (5 of them) are brought to security >Manager tells them he won't press charges if they clean up the spilled dirt and put the plant back >They throw the biggest fucking tantrum I have ever seen because they don't want to sweep >Refuse his deal >Parents are called, the police have had enough of their shit and end up pressing charges for theft
It is just amazing that they could have avoided everything if they had just swept up some fucking dirt. But they couldn't be bothered.
Boomers are responsible for all the degenerate culture you see today and nigger coddling but that's not even the tip of the jewberg.
The baby boomers have consistently shown themselves to be the most selfish generation in living memory. They were given the world, with amazing education in math, science, language, and college professors that actually fucking cared. They had limited debt and costs of living were low.
Their political activism was a clusterfuck. They voted for the worst politicians ever. They allowed corporatism and political elitism to corrupt society. They were indifferent or endorsed crisis just to make the near future "easier" while fucking over millions in other parts of the world. They never cared one instant about the world they were leaving behind for their own kids, or how all those people who were fucked over might hold a grudge.
When they finally had kids (if at all and very little) they were too busy with their own lives to raise them: Instead the likes of Mr. Rogers became a surrogate father for millions. When they failed to make their marriages work they went on to become spectacular failures as single parents who worked even LONGER and spent LESS time with their kids just to make ends meet, all while trying to pretend with a false smile that they were a normal family.
They agreed to foreign wars of aggression, they allowed themselves to be manipulated by politics of fear and consumerism, they follow irrational blind creeds and forced their kids to believe the same bullshit. The older they get the more hateful, fearful, and obsolete they become. They are parasites in every single sense of the word. They won't even leave any social security or welfare behind for their kids.
>>567797228 Nope. See almost all that was the generation after boomer. Especially the nigger coddling. Find me a boomer who likes niggers and gooks, and i will show you a hippie who was hated by most of his countrymen back in the day.
>>567797441 You can lie on the internet congrats. Rule of thumb if you're going to make crap up: at least make it sound believable. So your answer really is nothing, be a NEET and be mad cause your parents won't keep paying for you to live in their basement right?
>>567797645 Not a boomer, about 40 years off m8. Also I have a job, but being as how i don't suck, i have one that affords me spare time between working and sleeping.
>>567799690 you idiot, everyone is being replaced. top and bottom.
What you think people aren't working on robots thats will take blood samples from you, perform tests and then email the tests to your GP? Or a robert that can assist in surgery, whilst monitoring vitals and fuck just serving as additional arms to assist the doctor during a sugery.
Oh how about software programs that make more accurate trades then alot of human traders?
Yeah it's just gonna be the fry cooks, nah it won't just be them it will be anyone who can be replaced because to a business owner...it just makes sense to hire a more accurate robot that can do the job better and faster or to make a job more efficient by combining innovative software with outsourced labour.
>>567800772 I would argue that misanthropic little shits like you are the worst of humanity. You're the kind of person who goes shooting up a school because you believe undesirables should be exterminated and you are the one to do it.
>>567789681 I'm Gen X (in my 40s) so I'm a direct child of the baby boomer generation. And I agree with this sentiment entirely. They sucked up all of the prosperity given them in the 50s and 60s and then changed the rules so we had to foot the bill. We bore the brunt of radical feminism in the 80s and 90s with no MRA groups to turn to for our shit. We are the divorced-dad scrapheap generation. Not only that, but these greedy fuckers are retiring at 65 and will live on my fucking taxes for another 30 years, but my generation? Noooooo, we'll have to wait until 75+ to get any pension while we pay the debts our parents foisted on us, while they do the whole grey nomad bit living for decades on our tab.
Believe me, as someone who is in the millennials' parents' generation I sympathise with you younger folks. This hellhole world dumped on us by the baby boomers is why I refused to have any kids. My family line will die because of the boomers' greed and laziness,
So enjoy your long parasitic retirements at our expense you greedy bastards. But don't blame us when we leave you to rot in your nursing homes and don't care. The future you created is the hellhole that will revile your generation for ever with hatred and contempt.
>>567800992 >refused to have kids >doesn't understand why why social security doesn't work You know, half of the problems, in first world countries, come from the sudden decline in birth rates that came with your generation.
>>567801257 My parents were born immediately post-war and had me in their 20s. I was born in the late 60s, so I'm the first of Gen X. So I watched the rules change - I was raised from childhood with "traditional family values", then in my teens the feminists infected the schools and told us that all men were rapists and everything we'd been taught was wrong. The fucking bastards changed the rules on us when they realised they'd have to sacrifice their little luxuries if we were to have a future.
>>567801469 And why did the birth rates suddenly decline? Because the boomers fucked up the family with feminism and made it a bad deal for men to marry and have kids. Because the boomers in their greed fucked up our future by outsourcing all the jobs to third-world countries so they didn't have to pay wages and sacrifice their luxurious retirement funds. Because the boomers created a world in which nobody can afford to buy a house any more, let alone have kids. They are now reaping what they sow.
And why is population reduction a problem anyway? Are you afraid there'll be too few taxpayers to fund your 30-year retirement scheme?
>>567801695 So much fucking face palm. How can you be this fucking dense. If people stopped being all pretentious, and popped out more babies we wouldn't need immigration obviously. But when your populations birth rate is LESS than 2 you need new people somehow.
>>567802205 This primitive attitude is why we have a world population of 8 billion and climbing, because breeders think like Ethiopians who've got to have more grandchildren than the next man to prove themselves.
>>567802253 No, but I'll have a look. I'm a long-time MRA, I've done a lot of activism over the years and in Australia have managed to make some headway, with the shared-parenting laws and elimination of gender quotas in universities and government jobs.
You might like to have a look at mensrights.com.au, avoiceformen.com and fathers4justice.org if you're interested in anti-feminist activism.
>>567789681 Baby boomers are the most gullible generation when it comes to the Kosher media's propaganda. I've never seen somebody just sit there and blankly soak up all the news and commercials they see the way a boomer does. Motherfuckers just cannot grasp the fact that the t.v. would lie to them.
>>567794602 >Sue starts ranting about how the World Wars saved the economy keynesian cunts though to be fair, it's far from limited to their generations keynesianism still is the current global economic gospel, especialy among younger generations
i completely agree with you OP, but can you provide some specific examples of baby boomers acting like shitcocks? it's easy to see the general picture but if we're going to be making this case i'd like to be able to site some incidents, policies, etc.
The problem is when worthless idiots can't find jobs to feed themselves and resort to crime.
I'm all for replacing jobs with machines (I'm a programmer, it's kinda my job) but we're going to need a better welfare distribution system soon if it keeps up. Capitalism can only go so far in inventing jobs for people. Already the majority of the workforce perform jobs that essentially produce nothing of value.
>>567802671 Yes. I agree with his motives but not with his methods. Doxing his accuser plays into feminists' hands and allows them to claim victim status. This is how they are then able to posit the MRA as "hate groups." The problem is the media is on the feminists' side, so they can't be relied on to report the cases impartially. This is why he's seen as a "criminal" and not the victim of a false rape accusation. I admire his courage, but he really should have thought it through.
It's better to keep lobbying politicians for changes. I know this sounds inane, but it has worked for us. In 2006, the Howard government brought in the mandatory shared-parenting laws which put an end to the system of custody going to the woman by default - this was a direct result of MRA lobbying. We also managed to get anti-rape ads directed at men on buses and trains removed under Australia's hate-speech laws.
We have a long way to go, but the more we spread the word and the more we can get people to write to politicians, the more they'll realise they'll win votes by opposing feminism, and lose votes by supporting it. And the one thing politicians fear more than the media is voter backlash.
>>567803960 >a better welfare distribution system indeed let's just entirely stop spending more wealth than we have, and also stop plundering others' wealth for the comfort of self entitled leeches best welfare distribution there could be
>majority of the workforce perform jobs that essentially produce nothing of value lol then explain why people give even lowlife job people a salary for just what they do
>>567804306 >then explain why people give even lowlife job people a salary for just what they do
What does that sentence even mean?
>stop plundering others' wealth for the comfort of self entitled leeches best welfare distribution there could be
You get born into poverty wanting to live and you're suddenly a self-entitled leech?
Welfare doesn't need to come in the form of money. I said nothing about wealth. We waste shitloads of food and other necessities. America has more than enough empty houses to house the homeless. It's not about throwing money at the poor, I agree.
But we easily have the resources to feed, cloth and house everyone. The problem lies in devising a system to distribute these things that can't be abused and that doesn't throw away all the good things capitalism brings.
>>567804749 Rape as a crime by men against women is due to redefinition of rape by feminists to only mean forced penetration. It thus denies the fact that the male erection is an involuntary response and excludes any instance where women have forced or coerced men into unwated intercourse.
If you think that doesn't happen, consider the many, many instances where a man has been deceived into involuntary fatherhood and made to pay for a child he never intended to have. That's rape, just as much as a man forcing himself on a woman, because it is the true definition of rape: forcible denial of reproductive choice.
The biological function of sex is to reproduce. The modern -- and most used -- feature of sex is pleasure. And there's no reason we can't use sex for the latter as long as everyone's safe about it and agrees to some basic ground rules, like not sticking it in against the other person's will.
>>567805813 That's the old "keep it in your pants" feminist line. Your stance denies the advent of contraception, which separates reproductive choice from sex. Both sexes deserve the right to benefit from this change, not only women.
>>567806018 Because they're inherently offensive and patronising to me, quite frankly. That's the excuse a feminist would use, so it's good enough for me.
I remember on Facebook, someone complaining about those "go home" ads for illegal immigrants. Some lefty feminist cow justified them by saying "you don't see ads telling men not to rape". When I pointed out that you do, the discussion went silent.
>>567805386 >What does that sentence even mean? your lack of comprehension means you have no clue about how value works when an employer is not forced into employing anyone, but still does, it's that HE does see value in it you still don't? doesn't matter: it's not your business in any way or form it's only the business of said employer and employee and the only thing you're entitled to is to just shut your ass about it
>You get born into poverty wanting to live and you're suddenly a self-entitled leech? if you then expect others to vouch for your sorry ass in your own stead, then yes: just so there's a huge difference between asking for something, and taking something it's the same difference than between receiving charity and being a looting nigger
>Welfare doesn't need to come in the form of money it always ultimately does apart from air, not much comes for free
>We waste shitloads of food and other necessities I for one don't and as for those who do (quite a few of them not exactly being on the bright side of wealth production, btw - which explains why they're poor), it still is no business of yours to tell them what to do, as long as they don't forcefully do it with your own wealth
>The problem lies in devising a system to distribute these things that can't be abused and that doesn't throw away all the good things capitalism brings such a system is actually called capitalism you're welcome and the less interfering there is with it (eg states putting their filthy noses inside others' business, just so to harvest a few votes), the best it of course works erryone just acts on greed even the poor (when they ask for shit and giggles for free, greed is obviously on action) let erryone manage their own greed using their own means and then erryone will get exactly what they deserve again: best welfare distribution there could be
Blaming a generation for the human frailties of avarice and greed? Generation veneration is is a crock.
The greatest transfer of wealth in human history started with (and continues) shortly after the Reagan tax cuts in the early 1980s. Money from from the middle class was transferred to the wealthy class. This was obvious at the time tax cuts started. One Party represents the rich (Republicans) and one party represents the middle class and poor people (Democrats). Since Nixon, many poor and middle class people have been fooled by Republicans into voting against their own interests because they hate hate blacks and integration. Republicans capitalize on this hate for votes.
So our your problem isn't the Boomers. It is the tax structure and racism.
Boomers cannot be blamed for globalization of the labor force. The only way to compensate for that now in increased spending at all levels on education so we can compete with the rest of the world's population. Republicans aren't going to go for that because it would increase taxes on the rich who can easily get cheap labor any place in the world.
>Because they're inherently offensive and patronising to me, quite frankly. That's the excuse a feminist would use, so it's good enough for me
That's some fucking awful logic right there, in both parts. You shouldn't accept that excuse because it's a bad one, and you certainly shouldn't use it for yourself just because your hypothetical opponent *might* use it. Fuck me you're stupid.
>Some lefty feminist cow justified them by saying "you don't see ads telling men not to rape". When I pointed out that you do, the discussion went silent.
Someone on the internet was wrong about some vaguely related issue? That's your argument? Nice.
I'm pro MRA and pro feminist. When either group tries to turn it into a shitstorm, deliberately antagonising the other rather than working towards mutually beneficial solutions, it bothers me.
There are at least four layers of contraception if you include abortion and the morning after pill, which you should. As long as everyone just fucking communicates with each other, sex is no big deal. It's not rocket surgery.
History revision at its finest. Just for the bait, ever notice how most of the money in this country flows through business which heavily support the Democrat party, how at least three times the money flows through the Democrat party as the Republican party, and how the majority of rich politicians are in the Democrat party? It's the Democrat party shutting down industries in this country under the guise of environmentalism. Sorry, buddy, but the Democrat party stopped being the "party of the worker" a very long time ago. Today, the Republican party is a liberal party and the Democrat party is hard-line socialist.
Using statistics to target public welfare ad campaigns is not hate speech. Believe it or not, people do need to be educated about rape. If time spend on 4chan hasn't convinced you of this, nothing will.
>>567807370 >Someone on the internet was wrong about some vaguely related issue? That's your argument? Nice. Point is, they had a factual basis but were banned because it "offended" immigrants. Or more precisely, a bunch of pampered white people took offence on their behalf because, as you know, you're only allowed to say bad things about certain groups (of which one is men).
It's your grammar that's lacking, not my understanding of how capitalism works.
Most middle management jobs are worthless, and only exist because no one can be fucked overhauling their system. Several companies have done it successfully.
And this isn't what I meant when I said that most jobs produce nothing of value, anyhow. I mean that society gets no benefit from them. They're only there to fuel someone's pocket -- which in turn is only necessary because Capitalism.
Does your kid really need 20 different action figures? No, but jobs went into making them anyhow. Did your neighbour really need the third car he just bought because he fancied it?Nope. Did the giant stadium my state government recently built really need to get built? Nope, but it was good for the economy because capitalism, so it happened anyway.
>>567807721 And this is why you all cry and bitch when you get pregnant, you are actually this stupid, to think these are rock solid choices. You have less chance of winning the lottery, then getting a girl pregnant while using all forms of contraception. No, you all need to get it in your heads, you have sex, babies come out the hole you put your dick in. You are all to busy blaming others for a choice you made, sex makes babies. Damn, this is why there are so many underage kids with babies, denying the fact that sex isn't a game, not something fun a man and woman can do together, it sole purpose is to make babies. Maybe you all need to start fucking people of the same sex, because your line of thinking is to irresponsible for the baby making processes
>>567808013 Fine, but don't single out one segment of society and direct the ads at them. That's hate speech, plain and simple.
Perhaps the most hypocritical tendency of feminism is its propensity to rail against stereotypes, except where it suits their agenda, then they call it statistics. So where do stereotypes end and statistics begin?
What's your point? There's a difference between "We don't want illegal immigrants here, let's tell them to go home with an ad", and "Men are statistically more likely to rape; we want to prevent rape in our country; let's make anti-rape ads that target men".
>>567808621 >only exist because no one can be fucked overhauling their system see? people see the value of not overhauling their system their system, their wealth to spend so to change it or not, their problem not yours, in any way or form
>society gets no benefit from them who cares? society is an idea and ideas do not exist that which exist are people and again, it's no business of yours at all what they do with what's in their wallets, as long as they didn't steal it from yours
>but it was good for them, because they wanted just that, and did bugger no one at all so to get it and also good for erryone involved in willingly providing them what they asked for
>Get my point? oh my: yes you're a utilitarian just the kind of people thinking they can mess with the natural order of things just the kind of people responsible for most of the current shit
Society just means "All the people living in an economy", you dufus. It's not just an idea. It's a word you use when you don't want to have to say "All the people who live in this country/state/city/whatever scope your point is relevant to."
>people see the value of not overhauling their system
No, people don't see the value of overhauling the system. These are different statements.
I could be sitting on incredibly valuable land right now but not realise the value of it and therefore never take advantage of it, therefore wasting that value. This isn't an example of me "seeing the value" of something. In the same way, companies failing to see the value in overhauling their management system is often just blindness to the value of it, rather than being a carefully considered decision based on thorough and impartial cost-benefit analysis.
They're completely different issues, and I don't even think they're analogous.
Anti-rape ads that target men are okay, because men commit more rape. If women committed more rape, I'd be happy with anti-rape ads that targeted women.
Anti-illegal-imigration ads, on the other hand, are unlikely to reach their target audience (intended illegal immigrants) and do nothing but shame refugees already here. I can't see any benefit from them, but I can see benefit from telling men not to rape.
It's a philosophical position on morality that claims that we should aim to promote as much happiness in the world and reduce as much suffering in the world as possible. It claims that there's nothing intrinsically good about certain actions or behaviours, and that the only way to judge an action's moral worth is by assessing its consequences.
>>567810927 there is nothing that objectively good for >All the people living in an economy you morlafagging cunt there'll always be people better and worse off
we're not ants not cheetahs inbred to the point of pretty much being interchangeable copies of one another not all people are equal and that's why the best system is a system where erryone gets just what he deserves, want it or not
>wasting that value and that'd be your entire right, if such a land was yours that's actually the point
>>567811204 the mess of welfare is their entire doing the interfering in the economy created the subprime crisis (hey: let's force banks to lend money to people erryone knows won't ever be able to repay; and let's encourage them to do extremely risky investments to try and compensate for their very expected losses: what could go wrong?)
utilitarians believe that useful=good (which is wrong: futile can be even better) and that usefulness can be rationally determined (which is wrong: not all of us being equal - we don't all have the same priorities, which explains why you're unable to see some people don't care about wasting some resources there, because they're too busy earning ten times more some place else)
just let people manage their own asses ffs, instead of wanting to sniff those all you can they're the best ones to decide what to do with them fucking selves want it or not all you'll get trying to optimize the lives of others in their own stead will be messing errything up even more
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