>>562252521 Poke and whisper their name, then wait a minute or so. You can never know 100%, just gotta risk it to get the biscuit. Be very careful, don't make any noises, don't tickle her accidentally, don't be too forceful
>>562255591 why dont u just test with other shit that might wake her up... see what level of noise causes her to stir - but dont be trying to feel her up. She'll fall right back asleep, give her 15 mins, than u'll have a good judge of how much u can do. if u do decide to feel it, or lift it, just have a cover up, like you're putting a blanket on her or something. if she wakes she wont realize what u just did one second before, she'll just see u covering her or something .
>>562255820 I'm not kidding. I'm doing it to someone right now. The trick is to be veeeeeeeeery slow. If they wake up, walk away. Act like you where fetching something beside them. Tell them to stop snoring, ect ect. They probably won't remember it in the morning anyway.
And don't get greedy. You're much more likely to be able to look down her shirt then to lift it up. Just remember she can't feel her clothes but she can feel, say, her bra strap or underwires digging into her as you try to lift them.
if it were me, i'd pass on the high risk of feeling her up - and id try more for gettign some photos. all boobs feel pretty similar and giving it a weak feel for 2 seconds wont get you off. But having a pic you (and we ) can fap to for years to come... is the real gold
>>562255820 I think I was 13 at the time. Step cousin a few years younger but looked older. Anyways, was sleeping on the same bed as here and my brother was on the couch next to us, and I had managed to kiss her, lick her feet and arms, frenched her but her tongue was like a cat's, then I somehow managed to (we had a pullout bed from the futon) lay over her, my hands on the side of the futon as I basically planked over her, and I fit the tip of my dick into her mouth then pulled out cause da risk and also her jaw wouldn't open more. At one point I got up to go around to her side of the bed but I knocked the lamp over and broke it. Nopenopenope went back onto the bed. It was like this on and off for the night, every now and then would get guilty and go throw up, then repeat. She actually woke up at one point while I was feeling her tits (over shirt this time) and I just pretended to sleep for a few seconds then was like "wat is this.. sorry lol" and she said it was alright and went back to sleep. Everything went better than expected... except... One night some months later, parents pull us into their bedroom, say this 15 year old dude was caught kissing my sister who was like 7 or 8 at the time. Caught by my brother, and then they said if we see of anything like this ever happen, to tell them, and my brother had this nervous/guilty look on his face and I was asked to leave. Nearly shat myself, but nothing was ever said of it... I think around this time is where I started to see her less.
>>562257365 Just don't let your brother see you lol. I don't think my cousin cared all that much, and she even ended up having a crush on me and grinding up against me and cuddling me every night a few years later at a family christmas gathering
>>562256935 great story , u do realize though that she obviously was awake the whole time and pretending to sleep. there is no way those things would not wake someone up. she woke up, was curious, maybe interested, maybe even scared, went with it, pretended.
And you do realize that what your parents said was about YOU. I'm honestly not sure if you realize all this or if you think you just got lucky and breezed by and its a coincidence, but its crystal clear to anyone reading this.
i think flashlight is best move... cuz even if she wakes up u have an obvious explanation "i didnt want to wake u up by turning on the light". ... it also may explain why u accidentally bumped her in the dark... if u choose to go that route.
>>562257608 Yeah you got a point there. There was this one family gathering we had... It was night time and there were two couches. One couch held my blood cousin (ew), the other was perpendicular to my cousin's which held my step-cousin. On the floor, my brother was near my cousin I think, and I was parallel to my step-cousin. So I did the usual kissing and caressing and sniffing and I also used her hand to jerk me off a bit and felt her tits some (more developed) and then I slid my hand slightly down her panties but decided that was too far and quickly retreated. Anyways, the thing is her leg kept dangling off the bed and I would use that as an excuse for if she woke up - I'd say her leg kept touching me and it was bothering me so I was trying to move it. My parents talked to me the next day asking why I was kicking my step-cousin last night. It turns out my step-cousin went and said I was kicking her! Anyways I shot that down and gave the explanation and they took it. Now after this, things got a hell of a lot more suspicious.
>>562258869 You just put it on her when she's sleeping... like I said, its light. Or give it as a gift and pray. Get one of the smelly ones that has other values than light blocking if its going to be a gift.
>>562258803 Let's just say that I'm trying to peek under her clothes while she's asleep isn't the creepiest thing about all this. She normally takes a sleeping pill but she is out so tonight I had her take two melatonine (sp?) tabs. No idea how good they work.
She will often toss and turn and snore, she'll even often wake up when I touch her or lift her clothes, but with patience, practice, and timing I've gotten several tit shots and the last time we did this even got some open pussy on film.
>>562258840 /b/ro you gotta relax your shit... being a creeper in private is one thing, but u are definitely labeled as a creeper in the family now... absolutely positively. u pushed it way too far. and frankly just dumb that u thought u were doing this shit and not waking her up.
i think u may have an issue with getting caught up in the moment, because it defintiely sounds like you're missing rational thinking. sorry /b/ro, not being a dick.... soudns like a real issue
>>562259076 no one gives a fuck faggot. This is not the fucking picture you need to get to be cool. Be a fucking scumbag, take whatever fucking creeper shot of her tits you can, and jerk off from the sheer excitement of that. and fucking post them here.
m cousin is on vacation with the rest of NY family. We are both 18(although she is q couple months older). She is sleeping on a air mattress in her parents room and it is pissing me off. I keep trying to get her to sleep on the air mattress in my room but she won't. pic related its a creepshot I took of her.
So I guess I'll give a story. One time I was friends with this one family that had a lot of siblings. The oldest sister was a bit older than me, I was maybe fifteen at the time, she was sixteen, and she was pretty hot. Not the 10/10 face, but definitely at least a 8/10 body. Anyways, there was one time I was staying the night that right in front of me, she laid down on a reclining chair and fell asleep.
Behind me on the other side two of the siblings were using a computer and I was pretending to pay attention. People were walking in and out of the room, but I had my hand on her arm. Gently I squeezed a few times and she didn't stir at all. So slowly, I went for it. Tbh I was kind of a pussy about it and mostly I just put my hand over her boob. I took a few pictures too, I squeezed and got a picture of that.
Later on the pictures were kind of lame, she was wearing black in a dark room. Really you just saw my hand and implied what I was doing. Before you ask, no, I don't have the pictures anymore. I took about seven pics and did this for about five minutes without getting caught before people walked in and their talking and laughing woke her up. Tried to get a chance again after, but I never did.
>>562259871 well if u have no logical reason to be caught in her room - than i'd say its too fucking risky. because if she even woke up - u'd be fucked just for being there. Let alone her realizing what you're doing.
Though i do think with some common sense u could easily figure out something
The very last time I sleepfondled her. I was very stupid to start so early. It was christmas and a lot of the family was staying up in the attic and I managed to snag a spot next to step-cousin. So it was only around 12:30 or 1 at this point and everyone had fallen asleep quite recently, her in the past 15 minutes or so. I was feeling impatient. So I did the usual routine blahblah, and I also wanted to do stuff with her ass because I found than I have a major ass fetish. So I got a couple inches of her asscrack showing, and was feeling her up and everything, and then I was rubbing my cock against her when SUDDENLY SHE GETS UP! She just gets up and goes downstairs. My heart's pounding like hell at this point and I realize that this time is it. Nothing ever gets said about it, but I know everyone knows as time goes on. Everyone knows. Anytime the family is around, especially hers, awkward tension escalates and the thought of what I've done is in the back of all of our minds and I know they hate me. I don't fuck around with that stuff anymore. Not just because of the risk but because I know it's obviously fucked up to do now and I'm done being a total creeper. Fun fact: Every time I'd do it, I'd jerk off and cum buckets into my boxers then pass out. >>562259525 Yeah that's my problem with a lot of stuff. I tend to get caught up in the moment and rational thinking goes out the window. I also tried to kill my brother when I was a kid but thankfully my moral compass kicked in and I let him go. OP if you don't wanna get caught, basically be logical and don't be retarded
>>562260395 OP sounds pretty logical, and is thinking this thru and planning, etc. On the other hand you seem to put yourself into implausible situations that you could never explain your way out of. you get caught and still repeat it. its odd. I'd honestly suggest seeing a therapist on this, it probably affects you in alot of ways in life, b/ro. The brother thing is disturbing. Get that stuff in check, man. I'm slightly concerned for you.
>>562260702 The adrenaline rush I got from doing it was crazy though. I don't know if I'll ever be able to get more of a rush from anything else, besides maybe heroin. I would stay up until 8 am doing it. I would sit there for hours just waiting and waiting until the time felt right. That's when you know - when the time feels right. When the time comes, you'll know OP. Yeah she did end up getting some kind of crush on me, and we cuddled and grinded hardcore at this one family christmas. Her face was a literal inch from mine and mouth slightly open, but this time I didn't do anything because she was awake. I could have kissed her but I trained myself to only go for it when she was surefire asleep. Anyways, we started texting and she said she really liked me and I said I had liked her for years and she wanted to fuck me and I said we should wait until she loses her virginity to someone worth giving it to, but I wouldn't mind blowjobs and eating out, etc. And after a couple days, this is where things officially started to drop off. She'd text me every couple days, then every couple weeks, then nothing. She'd also go from snapchatting me every week or so to just nothing. This is where things got a hell of a lot more awkward. >>562261178 To quote Monty Python... "I got bettuh". I'm a bit more sane now I guess, I was just always a fucked up youngster. Yeah I definitely see how it affects me. Eh. Better to burn out than fade away
>>562261806 its an ironically beta thing to say 'get a girlfriend'... this is a person who doesnt realize that a girlfriend does not automatically fulfill all your 'needs' and desires... even if they are super hot, even if they are extra kinky.
>>562262203 Well I'm an honest person. I knew we wouldn't last in a relationship for obvious reasons, and I didn't want to take her virginity and make her fall for me. I'd only fuck her after she did all that stuff with someone else
with my cousin, she was visiting and we ended up in the same bed to sleep, we'd always cuddle, etc. then I'd go for the "roll over in sleep, hand on boob" thing, she never fussed. then move her hand to dick, etc, under shirt fondling. eventually i look up from peeking at her tits and she's awake and looking at me, I'm like, "well fuck" but we end up making out (i still remember her lips)
later on, we'd fuck a few times, then went back to normal cousin relationship like nothing happened. she's married now, I'm engaged.
My girlfriend is a heavy sleeper and her hands twitch a lot.
One time, stoned, I put two and two together. If I'm super careful, I can slowly move her hand, and lay it on my dick. Then I carefully position her fingers until she's gripping it. When she's twitchy, she squeezes it firmly 4-5 times. Maybe once a month I use this to get a free handjob.
>>562262041 dude, to refer to yourself when you were a 'youngster' ... but than to make a reference to an interaction with your family member on snapchat... since snapchat has only been around for about 2 years.... your'e stll young, and stll not far away from these issues. your line of thinking is odd, u seem disconnected, or disillusioned. You wont get better on your own. trust me, bro, im an old fag... i have some experience in mental health counseling, you need it man, with all due respect. Get the help u need.
>>562262712 Glad there's people I can relate to and talk to about this stuff for once. Oh also /b/ros, when you and your girlfriend are getting close and telling each other everything fucked up about you, leave the creeper fondling out of it.
>>562256935 >Everything went better than expected... except... >One night some months later, parents pull us into their bedroom, say this 15 year old dude was caught kissing my sister who was like 7 or 8 at the time. Caught by my brother, and then they said if we see of anything like this ever happen, to tell them, and my brother had this nervous/guilty look on his face and I was asked to leave. Nearly shat myself, but nothing was ever said of it... I think around this time is where I started to see her less.
I don't get this part. Can you explain in differently? Why did your brother have guilty face?
Did you mean he saw the whole thing and tried to make you feel guilty?
>>562261380 Speaking from personal experience op, i've felt ass turned on lights lifted blanket and done some touching stuff, just make sure whatever you do do it lightly and do something safer before like tapping them as if you need to wake them up to make sure they're asleep. Just dont get too carried away and quit when you get ahead
>>562262948 He saw it I'm assuming and then probably felt nervous and guilty about telling on me and what I would do. I didn't do anything >>562262883 What makes you say my thinking's odd and I'm disconnected? I don't do that stuff with her anymore. Not even if I had the chance
>>562263428 because like i just said... you guys were snapchatting - which means you've been doing that some time in the last 2 years. You've been caught and exposed by your family - and you're still up to this stuff. Maybe you 'stopped' in the past year - but its not far behind you. And yes just the way you tell these stories and explain your thinking, does sound very odd - trust me, you wont see it in yourself, but we do.
>>562251945 being the only two singles, I shared a tent female cousin last year when we were camping with some other cousins she smelled so great, I had to start fapping in the dead of the night, she slept sideways, you know, fetal position, I kinda humped her, slapped my cock in her ass (she was wearing that white top and shorts and granny panties). she was snoring, so I used it as a threshold to measure how deep in her sleep she was. I went as far as pulling her shorts AND panties sideways and slipe my tip in her ass, she only woke up when I was trying to go for her juggs, she kinda caught me touching her, I pretended to be you know, calling her, waking her up to say "you're snoring, try turning to your other side", she said "oh okay", and did that, after 10 minutes she started snoring again, she was facing me this time, I kept touching her legs and tits but not as harsh as before. I came in between her legs
>>562263090 Well you can believe I was making it up, but that's you man. I remember most of it all - my memory is so shitty and fuzzy though I'll give you that, but I know crucial details for sure. I think she was just scared and didn't know what to do - neither did my family. The thing is I couldn't stop myself for a while. It's like another personality kicked in and took over for me. Then I'd snap out of it and puke from the guilt and got really suicidal for a while. Doing it was like a drug and I needed that adrenaline fix
>>562263842 We've been talking but I haven't done it in 2 years. I'm honestly done doing it, man. I'll reminisce and whatnot, but it's staying in the past. But about the last part - I still don't really get it
>>562264183 with all due respect, i wouldnt expect you to get it... there is just clearly something dfiferent in the way you rationalize. You mentioned suicide and imply some depression and compulsion issues, these are all really serious, man. If you see yourself sliding backwards in anyway, try to get professional help, you'll thank me. Best of luck man... im jumping off this thread.
>>562263149 ive done stuff like this a few times. first was back when I was in high school >be freshman full of hormones >qt neighbor ive known for while stays the night because parents out of town and they dont want her alone for several days >one night walk by her room after taking late night piss >peak inside >she seems to be in a deep sleep, laying on her side >its warm so only thin blanket >slowly lift it off her >begin to slowly rub her butt/belly >get brave, out hand down her pajama pants >still not awake, slowly feeling dat ass >take out hand try for her chest >she does a little squirm in her sleep >ahh shit abort.jpeg >false alarm, she stops and doesnt move again >go back to butt for a bit, do a light boob grab then go back to my own room and have the best jack off ever did it once again after high school with my gf too, although was much less worried of being caught for obvious reasons.
personally I say go for it if you want to risk it OP, some people can be VERY deep sleepers. Now that I think back that girl may have even realized what I was doing but let me keep going, either way we where still friends for years afterwards
>>562265049 OP it'd be best to just chill there with electronics off and just wait. Give it another hour or so. It's exhausting I know, but the thrill and adrenaline will keep you going on auto. Just wait until it feels right. Start by slowly carefully sloooooooowly testing the waters. Maybe tonight just ain't your night
>>562265049 That's the easiest part, you can touch her, check rate and temp and if she'd wake up just act as if you're a bit sleepy and tell her she looked so immobile you were afraid she was dead. This will also help you check if she wakes up easily with contact or not.
>be 17 >lose virginity to 1/10 gf >sleep over hers 1 week later >I wanna fuck again >she falls asleep >try waking her up >start rubbing her back like massaging her >doesn't wake up >boob time >feel boobs for 10 or 20 minutes >I'm only getting hornier >take it to the next level >put my hand down her pants >feel vagoo >spread her lips apart >start stroking the outside of her hole >she gets wetter >decide its time to feel her clit >nekk minute >elbow to balls >boner lost
>>562266838 alright, this was when I was like, 14, she was same age. She was 5 foot nothing, tan (hispanic), smooth skinned, great legs, and great tits and ass. All around hot. >sleep over, me and cousin sleeping on air mattress together on floor, sharing blanket >she falls asleep first as I've always had trouble sleeping >she's wearing baggy, silk/satiny pajamas. the button up top kind, and pants >i go for over boob, testing the waters, good to go >slowly unbutton more, feel her tits, their big but still firm, feeling of them still with me to this day >start stroking my dick with one hand, feeling tits >get this brilliant idea >move her hand to grip my cock, while feeling her up, eventually move to feeling her awesome ass >move her hand to jerk me off to completion >come on her tits from the portion of her shirt i've opened >cuddle her and fall asleep
we're still really close, and have thought about trying again
The wincest I posted already, but I'll green text it. It was fucking awesome.
>again, a different cousin, sleep over >I was 17, she was 15. >again, hispanic, not as tan, still smooth skin, and tight body (can't stress tight enough) >a-b cups, but amazing ass >anyway, sleep over, we're cuddling and get closer and closer everynight before bed >we spoon, obvious boner, holding hands >i start to sleep fondle >her tits are so great, ass is even better >one night, I venture to her pussy, look up to her face and see her awake and looking at me >heart. fucking. sinks. >before I say anything she giggles and says, "wouldn't it be better if I were awake?"
>itshappening.jpg >she leans in real close to me, mouths almost touching >I lean in the rest of the way and kiss, we make out, i touch some more >we eventually go to sleep >every night keeps going same way, escalating >finally one night i take her pajama pants off, my dick is slipped through pajama pant hole in front >i get on top, look at her eyes that have this lust i've never seen again >slowly tease her pussy with the head, eventually just say fuck it and we start fucking >pull out, cum on her belly, we go to sleep
we then kept doing things, and eventually would do them whenever the rest of the family left in the middle of the day. I'd try to go down on her, but she always said she doesn't like that so I just shrugged and let her blow me/fuck me. we stopped when she left, and are still really cool. like I said, she's married now, I'm engaged. it's crazy stuff, and I still can't believe it happened
>>562268948 I laugh about it when I think about it. Shit, I almost forgot to tell you how it all started. So she was visiting me/my fam from south america when we finally wincested, but when I visited her down there a few months prior, we were saying goodnight and went to kiss on the check (hispanic thing with all family) and each went the same way and kissed on the mouth and were like uh...hahaha...oops.
One night while cuddling i brought that up and she confirmed that's when she started thinking about us like that/
>>562253118 The deepest part of the sleep cycle is about 1-3 hours or so before a person usually would wake up. For example, if the person of interest wakes up at 9:00 am usually, do whatever at 6:00 am.
>>562270364 lol i would if I had some. It's been an honor posting with you all. Maybe I'll seek some treatment eventually as they anon suggested... nahh. But anyways, OP if I hadn't just recently decided to stop fapping then I would definitely have fapped to your post
>>562261380 it is. my gf is submissive. one night she was so tired she passed out while sucking my dick, basically had it in her mouth like a dick pacifier. she apologizes after waking up about 20 mins later. I said it was kind of cool and felt good. people flinch aka jaw and tongue movement almost made me but in her mouth. but I didn't want to ruin it, as I think I just found a new fetish. aka cock nursing. so we often go to bed and she assumes the position an passes out about 10 mins later with my semi hard cock halfway in her mouth. helps to give forearm massages and light scratching of the arms and head to get rid of the light sleeper. often times I can slooowly sink my cock down her mouth further when she's snoring. all that arm rubbing etc makes her a heavier sleeper
>>562267689 part of that is brilliant if u were sleeping next to a girl. put her hand gripped on you cock. go to sleep or rack until she wakes up realizing you're asleep and thinks she fished out your dick. opportunity to wake up surprised "hey if I'm going to wake up with you grabbing my cock you need to get me a few drinks first."
>>562271957 the best night was she came home tired drunk but not far enough to puke drunk. I was able to slip my semi hard cock about an inch down from the base. deep drunk snores vibrating on my dick was something else. she doesn't drink much so waiting for another night like that. a deep sleep can also cause jaw biting which is OK as she's not too hard but sometimes grinds her teeth enough to treat it like a cockmeat sand which. aka key to have a semi hard erection helps that from becoming too hard of a bit. but we've been doing it for several months now and she doesn't have those jaw cliches pike she used too. been debating slipping on a half a seeing one high to see ho that goes.
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