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I don't get it. How can a punch like this knock someone

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I don't get it. How can a punch like this knock someone out? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7ZMMyDNUVU
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>>559879301
Glass jaw, maybe?
It was placed pretty well, tbh, but sometimes people just can't take a hit.
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>>559879301
its all about the surprise
he didnt see it coming so couldnt put anything against it thus his brain bounced around in his skull causing him to KO
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>>559879557
thing is to knock someones lights off all you need is speed and accuracy. you see those fuckhuge haymakers online a lot, but i took quiet a lot of them and they didn't do shit. you don't really need your body-weight behind a punch for it to hurt. but it sure easier to fuck up your hands if you do.

former boxer here btw.
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All you have to do is move the jaw a little bit to one side and its lights out. Even a weak hit will get the job done
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>>559880638
well it's all about the rotational acceleration you give to the skull, jaw is just a lever, altho a very powerful blow can dislodge the jaw and possibly push it into the carotid artery (instant lights out).

either a fast light punch or a slow heavy punch will do, for this reason. altho speed is the more important factor in physics.
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>>559879301
Thats a pretty good punch. Accurate and he punched through his target.
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>>559879301
>how can a punch like this knock someone out
>video of a pretty solid punch

He stepped into it, followed through, and caught him right on the button..
what more do you want out of a punch?
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>>559881783
Yep, I'd guess he's done that before. Either in a gym or he fights a lot.
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That fucking slut at the end hitting the guy when he was down.
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>>559879301
Well the guy's black, so we can rule out brain damage.
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>>559879301
Finally a Nagger gets ktfo for a change. White people get preyed on by these idiots too often.
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>>559881893
Yea he's definitely thrown a few punches before. Not like he even really needed any experience to get a good shot in on that goofy ass crouching tiger guard though.
I thought that black dude was gunna pull out some Jackie Chan shit for a second lol.
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He is obviously drunk and that white guy hit him kinda hard. Better question would be why wouldn't he get knocked out after something like this?
OP confirmed for faggot
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>>559882653
It makes me sad how mma has murdered kunfu. I enjoyed believing all of that Bruce Lee dancing shit would work IRL.
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>>559879301
He didn't knock him out retard.

The black dude is drunk as fuck and got pushed over.
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first few comments are good
than come the butthurt niggers
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>>559879986
Shut the fuck up kid. Quit spouting your common sense bullshit like you're some kind of expert.

Sick of people like you that get on an ANONYMOUS image board looking for recognition.

>speed is the more important factor in physics
You couldn't have something dumber than that if you tried. Speed means nothing. A quick jab with no weight behind it isn't going to knock someone out just because it's fast. If you had even the slightest boxing training, you'd have learned to put your weight into every punch. And if you had even the slightest knowledge of physics, you'd know that force=mass*acceleration.

>inb4 B-BUT I SAID SPEED
Acceleration is not the same as speed.
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>>559879301
whos girl in pic unrelated? she's exactly my type
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>>559882956
Meh that kind of fighting takes years of training for a reason. There are definitely some crazy spin kicking hidden dragon motherfuckers out there, but they would have been well out of reach by the time that punch came in.
I think that guy was either drunk or was just trying to bluff and throw the whiteboy off his game for a second.
Hell, maybe he left himself open like that on purpose hoping to make the white dude take an obvious swing so he could fuck him up when he missed. He underestimated him/overestimated his own speed if that's the case though..
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>>559884279
retard... energy = speed^2 * mass, force doesn't mean shit. go back to school.
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>>559884324
yup. we need sauce on that.
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>>559884598
>energy = speed^2 * mass
I think the equation you're looking for is energy=mass*C^2(The speed of light squared)
Which is an equation explaining the amount of energy something has in relation to it's speed and mass. It has literally nothing to do with punching.

Try again.
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>>559884279
>speed means nothing
Tell that to any champion boxer ever lol.
Tell that to any fighter in general.
You know fuck all about being in a real fight don't even lie.
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>>559880638

Correct. Make that brain jiggle like jello.
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>>559884279
yes you are a dumbfuck..
why dont you go drop dead?
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>>559879301
source on gif pls
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>>559884920
it has your hand has mass and speed and energy, the energy is transferred to the guys face as your fist decelerates and his head accelerates.

don't think i can explain it in simpler terms.
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>>559879986
You're a fucking liar. I spent 9 years boxing. Every punch has weight behind it
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>>559885825
obviously a punch with 0 weight would have 0 energy. now stop trying to shame yourself further.
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>>559885930
You sir are and idiot :^)
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>>559885637
Lilith_Serperttime
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Thanks for the info guys. It's just I've always wondered what it would take to land a punch like that.
Anyway, sauce
>>559885637
>>559884653
>>559884324
http://imgur.com/a/WLez5
Enjoy, although I don't think she made any other nude gifs.
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>>559885930
A punch with 0 weight and 0 energy behind it wouldn't even be a punch you fucking spaz.
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>>559886343
>Lilith_Serperttime
thx. tineye gave nothing useful; neither did goog
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>>559885714
>decelerates
Well, you just confirmed that you know literally nothing about physics.
Accelerating is just changing direction or velocity, slowing down is accelerating, turning is accelerating. You're just making it worse son, stop while you're ahead.

e=mc^2 relates to the potential energy of matter. The amount of pure energy something will produce if completely obliterated. (IE:Anti-matter coming into contact with it's matter counterpart.)

>>559885930
Just... stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>559884324
>http://imgur.com/a/WLez5
>>559884653
>>559885637
>>559886343
>>559886397
>>559886512
Confirming name is Nyanners
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>>559886443
he said "every punch has weight behind it" i just agreed.

thing is what i found during my boxing carrier is the difference between a well executed punch being a knockout punch or just a dazing one is putting your shoulder in it (or as some calls it punching thru). everything else is the same motion starts from the legs builds up through your hips and torso rotation and shoulder and arm and extend and rotate fist, it's like a flow of momentum or more like a wave that gets stronger as it progresses i don't know. but if you don't turn your entire shoulder into it it's a sparring punch, if you do it's a lights out punch. you center of mass should not move with your punch that is what peasants do.
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>>559879301
http://Jesica.borging.com

It's live
it's free
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>>559879301
Peeple think you can take as many hits in the face as in the action movies you cant and i think he got him right in the throat thats instent ko almost most fighter will bend their head alittle forward to cover neck better
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>>559879301
>no penis

I think I'm going to be sick.
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>>559886734
e=mv^2 just google it, why do you think faster lighter bullets fuck shit up more than heavier slower ones?

leave the speed of light out of this pls.
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>>559879301
idk. the confidence and decisiveness with which the white guy moved...

He knows his way around a fist... maybe he actually fights or has fought before?
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>>559886734
this man is correct, it's called negative acceleration :^)
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>>559887493
sure, i will allow that speed is a vector, and acceleration is a matter of perspective and physics don't know about any deceleration just as it can't do shit with cold or such, sorry for using common language.
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>>559887694
>>559887493
but he is being willfully ignorant about kinetic energy (an elementary school subject) which is ridiculous.
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>>559887694
>>559887826
Backpedaling so hard, this is delicious.

If you're going to try and bring physics in to explain your fuckups, at least know what the fuck you're talking about.

Energy is not the same as force.
I assumed you knew the terminology when you started spouting off bullshit.

You're either underage or retarded, either way, fuck off.
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>>559887127
I should pay better attention to id's. Didn't realize you were the /b/oxerbro lol.

No real training here but I've got four older brothers, so I know damn well what a good punch feels like. I've taken enough jabs to the fucking nose/solar plexus/jaw/kidneys/you name it to know that a weak punch can be just as effective too.
I'd rather take constant haymakers to the cheeks from a dude twice my size than fight someone half my size that knows where to hit me..
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>>559887193
i got punched in the face a million times...
ko-d 0 times. almost ko-d 1 time it was a fast light tap to the chin legs got all wobbly and shit.

just saying don't think in simple terms off numbers, cause once you have kinetic energy down shit gets awfully complicated by bio-mechanics and technique.
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>>559886734
>stop while you're ahead
Are you implying that he was ever ahead?
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>ITT: understanding physics = knowing how to fight
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I'm pretty sure it depends where you're hit. I've been straight walloped in the face during actual fights and it didn't even hurt until after the fight was over. Then I've also been kicked in the side of the head during Tae Kwon Do matches with not even that much force with them wearing padded footguards, black outed and next thing I come back to is me laying on the ground trying to figure out how that happened. I think I've heard it has to do with a certain nerve in your face or something.
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Am I the only one who's fucking anoyed at that stupid bitch for punching the guy on the ground? Bitch this is why you get rape. Mind your own fucking business. You stupid cunt. Bet this all started because she was yapping her stupid mouth in the first place.
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>>559879301

source on the girl in the gif?
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>>559889367

vvvvvvvvvvvv

>>559886786
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>>559888693
he hits him in the jaw but then rest of punch goes into neck ever been punched in the neck mr i have been punched in the head a million times?
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>>559889582
no, i keep my head down
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>>559889867
good man
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>>559889550
>>559886786
It is not Nyanners, she is much shorter.
I have seen her full videos somewhere and she does a striptease to the jungle book music with a feather boa in the very same room and camera angle the gif is taken
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>>559884279
You sound like you've never won a fight.
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>>559881783
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>>559887309
>e=mv^2

Please stop talking.
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>>559891002
Yes that is from the video I mentioned, it has jungle book music playing and is fairly long
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>>559879301

I've seen it happen, done it, and had it done to me. You hit someone on the knockout button, especially with no gloves, and they are going down.
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Ok guys, I found the real source.
>>559886343 was right. Here's a link to live cam:
http://www.streamate.com/cam/Lilith_Serperttime/


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>>559889367
>>559886786
>>559886512
>>559886397
>>559885637
>>559884653
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>>559888693
>kinetic energy
Holy shit, this preschool physics.

The total amount of energy in your punch means fucking nothing kid.

It doesn't matter how much force you connect with, all that matters is where the hit connects and if they're ready for it.

You pretty much just need to get their head to move enough for their brain to hit against the inside of their skull. Physics has nothing to do with this shit, just stop bringing it up.

If someone is ready for the punch, their neck is going to absorb the impact and their head will stay stationary.

>hurr u don no how 2 fite cuz u calledd out his horrible physics

My record in silver gloves was 18-4-2 with 4ko's at 14. Mostly won because I was a 6 foot featherweight at the time and had reach on literally everyone, but I understand how to knock someone out better than the retards spouting off common sense bullshit.
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>>559891104
pls tell this retard, to get education i'm tired.
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>>559891643
>physics have nothing to do with it
Top fucking kek mate
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>>559891624
Now the question is if you can find recorded footage
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>>559891643
if you were here, and we had a pair of gloves we could short it out gentleman style. but i'm not gonna travel to an other continent for you education.

tldr physics has everything to do with how you make someones brain move around his skull imho. also if i get you in the chin your head will not remain stationary even if i just go half steam.

if have really boxed you should know that it makes a world of difference where and from what direction you receive the hit. what slides harmlessly off your tiny chimp skull will seriously rattle you if it comes sideways to the tip of you jaw.

and that is cause physics and shit.
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Heres a bunch of her gifs.
http://nfsfw.com/gallery/v/Trinity/
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>>559879301
getting knocked out by a blow to the head happens due to mechanical deformation of neurons in your brain, which (as far as we know) results in them firing when they shouldn't, and causing something similar to an epileptic seizuere

the brain is jelly-like in its consistency and it's quite easy to cause forces in a site far from the blow; all depends on where the the head was hit and how hard
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>>559892286
http://www.xvideos.com/video5052293/cam_girl_lilith_serperttime
Delivery.
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>>559892867
http://www.xvideos.com/video5258938/cam_girl_lilith_serperttime_video_2
http://www.xvideos.com/video5318308/cam_girl_lilith_serperttime_video_3
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>>559891880
>>559892498

An accurate mathematical model of a KO punch would have such a ridiculous amount of variables that it's completely unfeasible.

It's not just
>This amount of force to their head results in a knockout
It would involve a ton of differential geometry with constantly changing resistances and fulcrums.

It's also not just the velocity of the punch, it's the relative velocity to the person being punched.

tl;dr
Good luck trying to represent a KO punch with actual math.
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>>559892867
need sauce on song
I remember it from some show
forget name
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>>559893258
its the intro from dr. house
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNkxFZmcA2g
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>>559889212
This is false, since mike tyson knew how to fight and niggers cant read books
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>>559893212
it'd be fairly trivial to simulate the brain recieving a punch using a FEA model (especially if you used brain scan data for the geometry), but you'd also need to account for stuff like the fact that grey and white matter have different densities, and that for moderate to severe traumatic brain injuries, the injury tends to happen at the interface of the grey and white matter because of axons being stretched, sometimes to the point of shearing

that and a bunch of other stuff would need to be known about the electrical and chemical functioning of the brain
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>>559893575
that's what i thought
thanks
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>>559893212
>An accurate mathematical model of a KO punch would have such a ridiculous amount of variables that it's completely unfeasible.

well that is at least true, but... if you don't have the kinetic energy, the rest is shit. the total energy of your fist and arm is what the maximum ko potential you have.

then it's the other guys turn to decrease it with his deforming facial bones, the angling of his skull, etc... and then your hands will take some of the punishment too, depending on your technique and equipment.
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>>559893258
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD3CQtPxvmA
House theme
<What the fuck?
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>>559879301
well op, the jaw is incredibly sensitive, where it connects to the skull (about at the bottom of the ear) is more or less directly connected to the conscious center of the brain (science just learned where this place was). boxers, American football players, and other full contact sports players wear mouth guards in order to space the jaw so it's less vulnerable, but when your teeth hit together really hard it also collapses the rear portion of the jaw sending a shock directly to the brain. resulting in concussions, hemorrhaging, and sometimes even knockout.
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>>559894389
jesus fuck what? pls tell me you are trolling!
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>>559884279
>Quit spouting your common sense bullshit like you're some kind of expert.
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>>559894389
>conscious center of the brain
lmao
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