How do you guys deal with the fact that death is inevitable, everyone you love is going to die, nothing you own is truly yours, your life will never amount to anything, nothing truly makes any sense if you let yourself stop and think about it, you will never have peace of mind, you can never trust your memories or perceptions, you could die tomorrow, anything you do is ultimately futile pointless and inconsequential because time is going to destroy everything in existence, every single person you see is one day going to be a bloated rotting corpse, you have no idea if anything exists outside of yourself or if anyhing around you is real, the afterlife could be even worse than your current life, etc?
Srsly guys how do you all keep from killing yourselves, is this life just a test and thats why everything is so hell bent on hammering down the point that you MUST live, because the true challenge is figuring out that the answer is death and coming up with that conclusion despite eveything around you telling you otherwise? Is death the answer? Is killin yourself the only way to win? Or killing someone else, maybe?
God is good. Unless your evil, you'll just be reincarnated. If you accept Jesus, you'll get to heaven, usually with a guest, so your significant other can join you. And no matter what, anyone else you loved will be there too. (Think how anakin was there with yoda and obi wan even though he was vader)
>>559197858 Except what does any of that matter? What does it mean? Most of what we accomplished seems pretty godawful and horrific to me. Humanity sucks, how could feeli involved in its "advancement" possibly make you want to keep going?
I just try to live a good life while I'm here. I don't have any religious beliefs so I'm pretty sure this is my only run at life and I'm fine with that. I've found things that make my life fulfilling and that's all that matters to me. Whether or not my life matters in the grand scheme of things isn't important, shrink the scale and as long as you've done something good for the people you care for then that's all you need for your life to have had purpose.
>>559197403 Apart from all the weird reincarnation stuff I'd have to say that I really struggled with this concept at one point. I even got so far as to say, "Why should I bother living when nothing really matters?" I went to go kill myself and right when I got to the point of no return I though, "What if I'm missing something? I've been wrong before and what if there IS something I can live for?" I still think this life has no meaning and that in the end nothing really matters...However, you can't deny that you don't feel joy and pleasure at times and if experiencing that is the only reason to stay alive (for as long as you can) then I think that reason is as good as any. I'll personally do all I can to enjoy myself until its lights out...because when I do die, as far as I know, thats it for me.
>>559198138 The point is the same as anything else that's ever lived. To grow, refine, improve, expand. To experience and benefit your species in whatever small way possible. Enjoying whatever you enjoy or don't enjoy is a nice bonus.
Humanity is doing fine, we've gone from hiding in caves to conquering the planet. Is only a matter of time before we colonize other planets.
hello /b/my soul is 304 years old. this is the first live on this shitty planet, the other one where all on the other side of the universe where we are much further in technology and dont worry about stupid religion anymore. PS: we also stole your genetic white dust from your DNA so you don't have powers like healing our seening dead people aldo some still have a littl bit in themself like my cat he likes to eat dick
>>559197797 No dude. Have some pie and go swimming. Pet a dog. Hug your mom. Take a shit. Try not to die, try not to hurt anyone. Jack your dick off to tits. Read books. Just enjoy the ride while your healthy and it's good. And then it'll stop. So what. Video games are objectively a complete trivial, meaningless waste of time but we all still enjoy them. They're might not be an objective purpose to existence but as far as I can tell I am a part of the universe and so are my thoughts, and when I decide to have purpose in my life, for the time I'm alive that purpose exists. I'm fuckin high man
>>559198897 it's about your genetic information really, not the species. your species just shares more of the same genes, as does your family, but it's about the actual genes as opposed to an individual, kin group, or species.
also we're definitely going to destroy this planet before we make it into a space colony.
>>559198916 You'd think after 304 years you wouldn't be such a faggot. Also, if you're implying reincarnation exists, you've been alive for such a small amount of years compared to infinity that its almost statistically impossible.
>>559198780 heres how i cope bro. savor and enjoy life. you have enjoy it while you can. remember that you actually get to live. even if one day its all gone, its better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. even if what you love is tacos
>>559199221 Most animals are capable of feeling pain, suffering and fear. Maybe they dont have an existential crisis but their lives are still shit. If i could think like an animal other than a human though and focus only on the immediate picture id trade species any day. But knowing what i know i cant help but freak the fuck out over it.
Ops well on his way to nihilism. Its a slippery slope man. From my experience, overly happy, optimistic individuals ask less questions, have faith, and never question authority. Pretty fucking jealous.
>>559200179 tech will improve so we can more effectively kill eachother, genocide is going nowhere. it is happening right now. Israelis want to exterminate Palestinians, the Islamic State wants to exterminate most everybody, the war in Darfur continues...
How do I even know if any of you are real at all? That you are seperate entities that have your own consciousness and points of view? How do i know anything? What does it mean to know anything? Why am i even bothering questioning what ultimately makes no fucking sense whatsoever
>>559197403 The exact same way I learned you need to eat your dinner before dessert, the sun needs to rise before it can set, and you need to be happy before you can feel sad. Death is the contrast to life, appreciate it.
>>559200169 i do. cause look man. within the next week, i get to drink, go to my job and work on cars, i get to bitch about hating work, i get to drink again, have some bomb ass food from all kinds of parts of the world, either my spic cooking or some gook stir fry, its all the bomb. then i get to home half drunk, eat my girls cooz cooz, pull out and nut on her feet if i fucking want to. its awesome. if i didnt exists in the first place, i would get to have the physical pleasure of any of that, now matter how temporary
Fuck religion Fuck atheism Fuck antireligion Fuck nihilism Fuck videogames And fuck you You are a program in a body, your function is to perpetuate this species. If you kill yourself because your qualms of existence drove you to it then your program was failed and thank you for not having kids first. Go die in a cellar and leave the breeding to the strong.
>>559198916 Reading dystopian fiction really helps me get a better grasp of existence and the necessity for feeling down before you feel happy. Read The ones who walk away from the omelas. Great short story. Also exercising makes me feel way better mentally as well as physically.
>>559200567 you gotta live it up while you can man! ive been in a rut before. i had drug problems, gang problems you name it dude. one day i said you know what, fuck that shit. if im gonna day in a moments notice i want to go out in style. and whats more stylish than saying fuck you to your own mortality and enjoying the shit out of everything in life. protip : nothing
I deal with it easily by simply living. Forging a path to the future. Does it matter? No. Does it matter that it doesn't matter? Not even a little. We just keep going until we die. There are ups and downs, but that's life. Plain and simple.
>>559199074 you have to enjoy it because its transient! if something was eternal it wouldnt be a joy or a bother, itd just be existence. it would just exist forever. when something is temporary, you have to enjoy it or fight through it. be it pain or pleasure. youre telling me if some 10/10 qt came over and was like "anon i need you to fuck me right now" youd say no because shed just leave at the end of the night? no dude. you gotta fuck that bitch cause she might not come around tommorow beggin for some existential cock
I feel liberation, OP. I needn't concern myself with the materialistic or the trivial. Words stop hurting me, and my personal goals seem easily overcome with the conviction of dying. A lot of people fear death, but what we need to realize is that the life we enjoy, be it fucking a tight pussy, eating some great food, or shooting the shit with our buddies of a beer -- all of this is novel and feels great BECAUSE we are mortal.
If we were to live forever, all of the above shit wouldn't have it's value. I say aim to live well, but also, aim to die well. Have a classy MILF for your troubles, OP.
>>559200179 We are never getting to the point that we build happy houses on the moon. Nigger, feminists, Mohammedans, lunatics, left-wing scum, kikes, druggies and other "people" trying to claim "their right" is always going to alow us down.
>>559197403 Remember me when I tell you there is an after life. There is a straight path, and this path you must follow or else you will die and be punished. Have a good life and have fun, but don't go off of your straight path. May Allah guide all of you to the straight path.
>>559197403 Well, the first thing you do is grow the fuck up.
AS FAR AS WE KNOW: You only get one life. So you can spend it in existential distress and denial, fearing the inevitable. OR, you can enjoy it as best you can. Spend time with good people, try some good drugs, eat good food, drink good liquor, make good money, develop good intelligence, try new things, be open to change, be hopeful for positive outcomes, chase your dreams. etc etc etc.
Or you can freak out and realize that, yes, you're going to die. Your parents are going to die. Your children are going to die. You might not every have children, or a wife, or grandchildren, or friends, or an interesting life. But, those are just possibilities, and you're only as good as your attitude. So have a positive one, and at least you'll always have that going for you. And maybe one day some hottie will notice and she fuck your brains out, and fall for you, and you'll do everything right, and you two will start a relationship, and get married, and have kids, and they'll have kids, and you'll have grandkids, and you'll die. Or not. Maybe you two will just live out your days together traveling and killing it until you go out in a fatal shark attack at the age of 90.
But NOTHING GOOD will ever happen if you just sit around fretting. So put down the bong, go outside, and start by enjoying this summer to its fullest. Then enroll in school this fall and do something with yourself, because people with purpose don't have time to sit around and ponder shit they have no control over.
ITT: pseudo-intellectuals think they have it all figured out and conclude it's all meaningless. They then write a personal blog how they drink to numb the pain, as if to project a false-image that they're stoic/badass.
You're all a bunch of pussies. Props to the optimists though.
>>559202132 relief? what do yu need relief from? breathing?if human being had to manually breathe 24/7 there whole lives, id might want some relief to. but chances are your lungs can work themselves with you thinking about it
>consciously not present before my birth, nor after my death. >I cannot acknowledge the beginning, nor the ending. >the perception of oneself's life is as a personal infinity. >mfw I will never, ever, ever escape.
>>559202831 It just don't see the point. Pleasure? Why not just fap? At least I wouldn't have to deal with yet another temporary human contact that I will inevitably look back on with regret in the future.
Is it because you've disappointed some lovers in the past? Don't let that be your guiding force, living in the negative moment will only hold you back from your true potential.
Take whatever positives you can from every negative experience and try to move forward. Eventually you'll get really good at learning from your mistakes and you'll make less of them. You'll read the world around you more clearly because you'll truly be experiencing it instead of being trapped inside your own head.
Let it in, let it breath, it's like the difference between wearing linen or leather in the summer. One breaths, it moves with the wind letting heat out and providing comfort. The other is rigid and stoic, bracing against the winds of change and holding everything in.
Seriously, find a girl who's decent, and fuck her twice a day for the next six months. Eat that pussy, fuck her brains out, do everything you can think of to her. Make mistakes, have bad sex, learn from them, have better sex.
Then, when that 10/10 walks across your path your thought process won't be, "i shouldn't fuck her because i'll never see her again," it will be, "I'm going to fuck that girl so good she's going to fall in love with me." Then whether she does or not, you got laid, and that's always fun.
>everyone you love is going to die I don't have anyone to love, because I've never known my family and I'll never have one to call my own.
>your life will never amount to anything It'll amount as a fulfilling life in my eyes, and that's all that matters.
>nothing truly makes any sense if you let yourself stop and think about it Most things make sense, they are just exceedingly complex. Not to say we don't know everything, but I hope that someday we might.
>you can never trust your memories or perceptions How so?
>you could die tomorrow True, hopefully it's quick, painless and unexpected.
>anything you do is ultimately futile pointless and inconsequential because time is going to destroy everything in existence So? This means virtually nothing to me. It is inevitable, and so I'm not going to cry over it. Accept it and move on.
>every single person you see is one day going to be a bloated rotting corpse Again so? There's nothing to fear from a corpse.
>you have no idea if anything exists outside of yourself or if anyhing around you is real I have no way to know, but if you ever took the time to really look at someone. Even if you can't ever know, the fact that people act the way they do seems to support the idea quite convincingly.
>>559204258 This sounds like good advice. But it's wasted on me, unfortunately. I'm sorry, but I've never been a positive thinker. Maybe it's just one childhood mistake that was never corrected.
But I give up. I'm not gonna kill myself, because I fear death. But I think I'm gonna leave everyone I know, and try to be as solitary as I can possibly be. You can only be happy if you have the right attitude. I'm glad you do.
>>559203813 Ive taken lexapro, right now im on zoloft, seroquel and welbutrin. None of it works. Ive also tried concerta, abilify, trazodone.... And ive self medicated with recreational drugs of all kinds, food, sex, alcohol.... Nope. Nothing helps.
>>559205656 You should start running, biking, and swimming.
Do one a day, for the next six months, just have to do it. It will change your outlook on the world and help you get a good solid night of sleep every night. Which will fix everything. Check your hormones, boost your dopamine, you'll get more vitamin D so you'll utilize other nutrients more effectively which will help balance your mood and ultimately fix all of your problems.
do something physically demanding every day for six months and see if you don't feel 10000 times better.
>>559205795 nah I just really recommend it. It tries to answer those same questions you're having about love and intimacy and hurt. and was actually inspired by the series creator's experience with depression. Watch the original series and then End of Evangelion
That way, I avoid much stress from constantly thinking about death.
It is inevitable that I will have to deal with my parent's death, favorite actor's death, my friend's death and the death of everything I know and love, but I will deal with each and everyone of these in due time.
>>559197403 We all are part of one, we are inevitable. I don't believe in fate but I also don't believe in absolute randomness. With this properties it has to be somewhat like this and we are all connected. Whether we are all elements that cooked in the stars billions of years ago, which then exploded and scattered there enriched guts across the galaxies(Hello Neil). Just look at quantum enganglement, it's beautiful. We can't understand everything, but we are one of everything.
So here's the thing: life is either totally meaningless or it is suffused with meaning. There is no room for a middle ground. Either we can go on to live in perfect bliss for eternity, as theists believe, or we completely cease to exist, ad atheists believe. It seems to me, then, that the question of whether or not there is a God is the most important question anyone could ever ask. Problem is, most people let their attitudes or upbringing prevent them from ever really looking at this question honestly and free from bias.
I like to imagine that the Big Bounce theory is in effect, and that I am in a string of infinite other me's that have existed before and will exist after, once the universe has collapsed and a new Big Bang has occured from the collapse. I like this theory because it provides me peace of mind, hasn't been disproven, and explains the Big Bang's origin.
>>559197403 I feel like being insignificant is good because no matter how much you fuck up it dosent matter anyway, we are all going to end up as cosmic dust floating through the universe and maybe eventually becoming something again... I think that is fucking beautiful
>>559209803 But an infinite number of "yous" cannot have existed, because to get to the current "you" would mean that you a traversed an infinite number, which is impossible. You (and by extension the universe) had to have a beginning
>>559210493 when i say infinite, i mean they have been happening any given number of times before (or this is possibly the first me!) and will happen an infinite number of times afterwards. it will go on forever.
>>559210493 Unless the flow of time isn't linear outside the physical realm. Without a linear flow, chronology can occur without a defined beginning or end. This whole existence this is just the middle section of a story that circles around at both sides. What is outside/before/above/containing the physical realm? Nothingness. Nothingness is infinity by default.
>>559197403 WHEN YOU GET OLD ENOUGH THE THRILL OF LIFE WEARS OFF. YOU REALIZE THAT DEATH IS NOT A REWARD OR PUNISHMENT SCENERIO IT IS SIMPLY A RELEASE FROM THE NEEDS OF LIFE. YOUR PERSONALITY AND YOUR NEEDS ALL COME FROM A BASE NEED FOR SURVIVAL. AFTER DEATH YOU ARE FREE FROM YOUR NEED FOR SURVIVAL THEREFOR FREE OF ALL NEED FOR FOOD, SEX, BELONGING TO A GROUP, BEING WITH LOVED ONES, BEING ENTERTAINED, HAVING A PERSONALITY. DEATH IS AN END AND RELEASE FROM ALL THESE THINGS. to quote Woo-jin Lee "Heaven make me free of it. The rest is silence."
>>559197403 I think you need to see a therapist about your worries. Everyone has thoughts like yours at one point in their life but no one dwells on it as hardcore as you are right now. Yes, we will all die eventually. Everyone knows this. The only thing you can do about it is die happily and you can do that by living life to its fullest (having goals, going out do do shit).
It's simple, you accept that, and enjoy what you have currently. You know all of this is true, it is fact, so shy dawn on it and ruin the fun? Denial of any of this is moronic, therefore you accept it, and have the best time you can while you can.
>>559197403 i realize that pondering such things are as meaningless as life is and thinking about it is wasting braincells which are of real worth and finally i begin hedonisticly furiously masturbating
if you believe the things in your post and i assume you do, you should look into
>>559197403 Because if life had meaning, that would kind of defeat the purpose of living. If we did have a purpose, a universal purpose, then we would just be living for that purpose and miss out on all life has to offer. We are here to make sense of a senseless universe. You're right, nothing does matter, but so what? Would it make you feel better if there was a purpose and you knew what came next? Sure, but then you'd miss out on your current life waiting for the next. TL;DR, we are meaningless, and that makes life all that much better, for with meaning comes obligation, and obligation, an empty existance.
>>559197403 Yeah and the sky's blue. Unless if you plan on inventing a way to significantly prolong human life or be cryogenically frozen to a time when we do, death is just something you're going to have to accept.
>>559198138 He's right. It's as if the world and everyone in it, are all in this huge massive epic urgent rush.... to get where, you say? Well.. to get to the end, it seems. Make all the money, sell all the items, cut all the trees, catch all the fish, mine all the metal.... etc.
To me personally, it's the most retarded fucking thing imaginable. We get put here with the bounty of the Earth to enjoy, all around us, and all we can think about is how to make it better in the lab, how to collect it faster, how to sell it for more.
The point of life is enjoyment. If what you do is not conducive to enjoyment first for you, then for those around you.... you're a fucking douche.
>>559200097 >>559198573 >>559198830 I've been there, bro. Just get over it. Simply get over it. Learn to look as much or more at the positive things in life. Control doesn't matter. Any feelings of control you ever have are merely illusory. You're still a grain of sand being swept up in the crest of a wave. The trick really is to "look on the bright side". That's what I've learned from all my life. Every douche bastard that tells you that, he's right, there's literally nothing more to it than that.
The very fact that we even have a concept of nothingness should give you a good idea. Empty space is devoid of air, but contains particles, big and small. What is the empty space in between those particles? More particles? And if the empty space IS comprised of yet more particles, mustn't the amount of said particles stretch on forever? If it doesn't, where and how does it end?
>>559214630 If nothing could exist, everything could exist. If everything could exist, nothing could exist. So, anything is possible, what now? Infinitely powerful explosion of potential energy? Paradox, we're living in it.
Its part of life OP. Everything that lives will die. Its how things work. Its hard to accept, but most of us have a long time before we die. The whole point is to live for yourself. Do what you want. And stop worrying about things like possessions. Like you said, nothing is truly ours. Besides ourselves of course.
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