any books or websites you would recommend to a noob? I have never grown before, but all the books ive seen arent specific enough. I want like a nutrient list of exactly how much of what to feed the plants at every stage.
>>539967092 I've heard that you should trim your plants from letting them get too tall, to preserve THC content in the lower buds, but I've also heard that a taller plant will produce a higher THC content in the upper buds (Since THC is a tri-chrome that is used by the plant to help defend against solar radiation damage)
How are carbon filters, timers. and the hydro company related? There is an electricity consumption threshold where I live. If you go over the consumption limit, you are flagged and your info becomes open game to the authorities. I simply remain under this limit to fly under the radar (otherwise I'd go bigger).
No I'm not stealing or bypassing hydro.
It can be very covert so long as you have adequate provisions to mitigate smell. Don't tell a soul.
>>539968240 It depends on the strain and how large you grow the plant. As you can imagine, a small apple tree would grow fewer apples than a large one. Similarly, a large apple tree would take longer to grow than one that is smaller. It all depends on grower. Off of a 2 foot tall plant, yield is around 28 grams dry or 1 oz. 1 week of veg, 2 months of flower approximately.
I smoke some myself but not alot. I sell it myself as I have a loyal customer base.
What is your theory on flushing before harvest? How long would you say until the girls in the picture are ready for harvest? What ferts do you use? How do you monitor your ph and what other measurements do you take? How do you dry your buds? How do you cure your buds?
It's illustrated with photos and has all the information you need.
>>539968432 If you're growing indoor, you will need HID bulbs. maybe a 400watt or 600watt HPS or MH bulb. Need a carbon filter for smell mitigation. Adequate ventilation, reflective materials, pots, soil, nutrients, and all the fixins for gardening. Read a book dude. It will help you more than my short-winded responses.
You need to dry it and cure it before smoking. Drying can take 3-5 days and curing takes 2 weeks minimum.
>>539968453 Yes i'm "hustling" No they don't give a shit where I live No. Never been arrested period.
>>539967092 have grown with good genetics twice now, buds came off the plant looking smelling something amazing, and after my cure is done they still only look amazing. they have lost their fantastic aroma and its place a hay-ish homegrown smell. >hang until appropriately dry >jar with stems; burp ~twice a day as necessary for ~1-2 weeks >remove from stem and repeat burping process >smoke what did i do wrong D:
Plants should be pruned for flower. This entails "lolipopping" the plant (removing lower growth from soil level abour 2-4 inches up the stem. You should leave 3-4 terminal cola's for the plant to grow well. If there are too many, the buds will be small and sparse. THC content isn't really affected through this unless you stress the plant.
>>539968631 Purchase a grow tent. You will need a small wattage HID bulb. Preferably 600watts as its the most efficient. You'll need a carbon filter and an extraction fan. Probably a cool tube for the light to mitigate heat. From there, grab a book and you're good to go.
Looking for a discreet way to run a grow indoors. Was originally looking into the bc northern lights grow boxes, they are small, have a built in filter and keep noise down to a minimum. Was wondering if you would have any alternatives? I am not trying to do anything large scale until I have a place to do so. Personal use only, thanks
>>539969153 Yea smart meters are a bitch. I opted out of the smart meter for my home so I pay a small analogue fee each month extra. One or two lights wont make a big diff in your bill. They won't care man.
I harvest by clipping the buds off the plant and I run them through a rotary clipper I purchased. I then place the buds on drying racks and let dry in cool dark place for 3-5 days or until stems snap when bent. Then I place in mason jars for 2-4 weeks periodically removing jar lids to let out stale air and let in the fresh air. Then they stay in jars until sold.
Seeds will run you $50-$70 for 5-10 probably depending where you get them. Of those seeds, half will germinate.
Youll need a light + ballast = $200 Carbon filter and inline fan= $200 Reflector = $100 if you dont use a grow tent you will need reflective materials If you do tent runs $100-$500 Pots and dirt $50 Nutes $50-$100
>>539970476 I've had to get rid of them a ton of times...
Home remedies don't work that well (cayenne pepper bombs, soapy water, etc.) unless applied VERY frequently and liberally to underside of leaves.
You need a pressurized sprayer (one with a pump) so you can properly spray under leaves and get even coverage.
I've used safers soap (works for small populations and to slow them down). I've used lady bugs (they stop infestations until they all die). I've also used bug-b-gone which kills them altogether but I only spray actual bug killer when plants are in veg. DO NOT SPRAY INTO FLOWER or the buds will be affected.
>>539970698 Tell your current dealer that if he doesn't have better shit that you wont buy off him anymore. If he's a faggot, fucking kick his ass for being a retard. Otherwise you're probably going to need to ask friends, etc. It can be hard sometimes. It's just as hard for dealers to link with customers.
I have to hustle and leave my number with friends of friends to expand my notoriety while maintaining discretion.
>>539970698 No i did not,i didn't see it. it was in a wrap of paper and i had been waiting in the cold for a deal for like 6 hours. the person who sold it to me i somewhat trusted to not rip me off for 10 pounds. i just bought what i could get.
Hey I do have a question, I'm looking to get in to the legal growing business once it becomes legal in my area... I'm looking to grow outside on about 3 acres of land in a clear field surrounded by trees and a nice sized creek. I've got about 18-24" of good soil before it hits clay and a pretty good water table. Full sun coverage all day.
First, how would I grow but not sell to customers and second is it possible to have good potency in that kind of climate.
Just make sure the buds are adequately dry before curing otherwise they can get a musty moldy smell (or hay smell in your case). Dry until stems snap. Usually 4 days if the room is around 70ferenheit.
>>539970918 Yea. Maybe you can find some cheap shit online? If you go SUPER basic and don't care about growing good or smokable pot, you can get away with a $200-$300 setup. Don't cut corners dude. It's not worth it. If you can't afford the infrastructure investment, then don't bother growing it. You're either in or your out.
>>539970910 >I meant to send this to you,not my post No i did not,i didn't see it. it was in a wrap of paper and i had been waiting in the cold for a deal for like 6 hours. the person who sold it to me i somewhat trusted to not rip me off for 10 pounds. i just bought what i could get.
I have a partner who calls alot of the shots. Without him, I'd be doing alot better for myself....Unfortunately it's his house so I can't say much. Have to do some things "his" way.
>>539971192 Yes you will definitely want to set up a greenhouse though. I wouldn't leave it to the open elements. To grow it and not sell legally? I dont know. If you're going to go that big, it's going to be illegal either way. There's a greenhouse material that allows 100% light permeation (or close to) and it is opaque as in you cannot see through. Looks like corrugated plastic. Pic related
do you bother with cos. my mqte doesn't usually an get just under 6oz per plant been told if he hooks up co2 he'll get 20% better yield. trying a home made kit made with mushrooms an shit on his next crop see how it goes.
Well you could theoretically harvest and then keep the plant alive...This is dumb though because you have to wait for the plant to revert back to veg which can take months then it has to grow all new leaves, start all over again. How growers bypass this: we clone plants and have an ever ready cycle of new babies after every harvest.
>>539971725 I remember reading about CO2 being released in incriments over to increase the density of the CO2 in the air increasing the plants metabolic process' increasing the yield of bud. I wonder if the increased CO2 would increase yield, and THC/CBD content? Is this anything OP could comment on?
Its how tall the plants are and how they're grown. I could easily grow 20 plants and get the same yield. Again, I have a partner who owns the house so he has his say in things. If I had it my way, I'd be WAY more efficient. I cant get it out of his thick skull that more plants doesnt necessarily mean more bud. He's a retard.
>>539971725 Co2 definitely augments bud for the better. It's just hard to set up an air tight room and have everything timed so fans and shit turn off while CO2 flooding.
>>539971975 Yes Co2 increases bud growth dramatically. you need a way to flood the room to a certain PPM for up to an hour. This would mean turning off fans, ventilation, etc and having a sealed room. If you were doing it in a small area or on small scale this could be alot easier with a baking soda/vinegar drip or excellofizz pucks. Otherwise, its fucking hard to attain a good sized co2 tank (rentals are a bitch) and then you need a $200 regulator and spaghetti hosing. Not worth the fuss IMO unless you're small scale
>>539972323 Yes. It just makes it so all the light hits just the top buds. Makes the canopy huge with buds and you pack the plants on the table so they are end to end CRAMMED on there (hence having so many plants). Then the bottom foliage falls off and the top shit grows monster buds.
Here's what I'm working with: fairly basic nutrient rich potting soil (plenty, for the most part), two large plant pots, fixtures to accomodate two growing bulbs (originally intended for an aquarium) as well as a snake-like posable fixture for regular bulbs, and approximately a 100$ budget.
I also have a nice collection of seeds from eapecially dank strains I bought personally in the past couple months.
So, my question to you is this:
If you were me, and wanted to grow just two successfull plants with the resources listed above, how would you go about it?
I've successfully grown plants before, but I would definitely value your experienced methods and I would welcome as much detail as you're willing to give.
>>539972552 No but it def helps you get laid if your supplying 420 all the time. I've joked at the idea with some chicks but the ones i'm even comfortable humoring the idea to are girls I've already fucked.
>>539972662 Well you need an HID bulb. Best to go with 400 watt HPS. For this you need a ballast. You arent going to get enough lumens out of the bulbs that would fit in the aquarium fixtures. You need to simulate the sun with lights otherwise the buds will grow very sparse and the plants will stretch.
Id say set something up in the closet. Paint the walls matte white and get a cheap ballast and bulb (consuming that budget). I'd also use neutral soil with no nutes added so you can control that aspect. you'll have to skip on the carb filter but you need an oscillating fan to blow over the plants.
>>539971572 You misunderstood the question. I would like to grow WHEN it becomes legal, but I do not want to sell it myself. I'd like to grow and sell to distributors much like a farmer sells his crops.
It is pretty easy depending on what you go with. A basic sump and drip with clay pellet is easy and cheap. Just need a couple rubbermaid bins. Maybe not worth it though. Depends on what you're into.
You need to germinate seeds first in damp paper towel. After that, yes it's just as easy as planting and waiting.
1-2 plants would need an area of about 3-4 feet high and 4-6 sq/ft of floor space. Yes they need good air circulation.
No and I wouldn't bother with LED.
Seeds from random dude? Does he know what they are or are they from a shit bag of weed? Autoflower seeds are pretty cool. Grew some lowrider under 24 hours of light in a little over a month. Got an oz per plant. Shit thing with AF seeds is you cannot clone them sadly.
>>539973428 Would probably be worth trying co2 then! The thing that sucks with growing experiments is unless you have a solid benchmark, you cannot measure the effects quantitatively
I used to be just like you op. Just wait until the cops get so much as a vague hint of what you're doing. Prepare to come home to a busted down door after somebody "anonymously" calls in a violent domestic dispute allowing them to bust right in. You have no rights, your days are numbered, it's all just a matter of time.
>>539973504 Ah. I don't know when it will become legal. You would need a government contract i'd imagine. Here in Canada they sold a bunch of industrial contracts to well established companies. They probably wouldn't license rights to Joe Shmo.
>>539974108 Perhaps. Funny thing though, I don't live where I grow and the house isn't under my name. I'm borrowing the space from my partner who gets a cut and helps out here and there. If they kick in the door waving the 4 4, all you'll here is "Coppas cant catch me no more"
>>539974375 If you look at tin foil closely enough, it looks like a badly grained wood. Light is absolutely tiny, it is beyond comprehension how small light is. The grooves in the tin foil that make it akin to the wood are massively larger than the light but they still reflect the light like a mirror does; like everything does - absorbing some of the spectrum, returning others.
Now tin foils grooves are tiny, but they will reflect the light when it hits it. The grooves will cause the light to be dispersed back out completly without uniform as it reflects the light back in on its own grooves, back in inconsistent spots. When the grooves cause more light to hit one spot, over an extended period, causes hotspots. The black burns on leaves that come with using poor covering.
>>539974649 Foil creases and is inefficient at reflecting light. It can cause burn spots on the foliage and is all around shitty. Matte white paint (not gloss) is VERY efficient. like 99% efficient. White styrofoam is VERY efficient. Like 99.5% and can be a great insulator to manage heat. White poly plastic is pretty good. Best material is Growing dimpled reflective material. Like Growtek or mylar.
I use a mylar type reflective material but its super expensive. Best to go with plain white styrofoam or matte white paint
>>539974828 Read above. I linked a cheap ass 400 watt digital ballast with reflector and bulb to a guy for like $80. There's always a risk of fire if you try to wire your own shit. Otherwise it's pretty safe.
>>539975307 Buy feminized seeds. If you need to determine gender just have a look at the sex organs of the plant. Male plants have balls (more or less) which are pollen sacks. Females have pistils (hairs) like you see in your weed (albeit they're white before they dry). You can determine the sex of a plant shortly into flower cycle. The sex organs show up at leaf and branch nodes.
>>539974605 That's what I thought too, bro. Be careful. Don't be surprised when they put the screws on your buddy and he sings like a bitch to save himself. Civil asset forfeiture is a bitch, btw. You're double fucked if they figure out you're selling it.
>>539975747 Well if you get potting soil, its already amended with nutes. This type of soil doesn't always drain well and the PH can be off so I dont like it that much. I use HP pro mix or sunshine mix #4. There are other options depending where you live like a coco coir mix.
Basically you buy a 3 part nutrient formula. Most liquid nutrients come with a grow mixture, common mixture, and flower mixture with different nutrient ratios.
Mix at 25% recommended strength. So if it calls for 4ml per liter, use 1 ml per liter. Only fertilize established plants. Dont fertilize seedlings or small clones until they need it.
Add the nutrients directly to the water that you water with.
Here's a pic of my first grow. Growing it in a "spacebucket" in the house. Don't mind the heat spots, was out of the house for a few days and the plant grew into the lights. Just changed the light cycle to 12 hours, so hopefully it will enter the flowering state soon. My question is, do I need to trim some of the leaves for a better yield?
>>539975747 Start with clean reverse osmosis water and then follow the directions on the fertilizer, maybe a little under the recommended strength and Always water until you get run off from the bottom of the plants.
>>539976269 Promix HP kick ass it is the proper Ph out of the bale due to being fortified with dolomite lime. Plus the perlite and vermiculite to add aeration and increase porosity. It's the choice of professional growers.
>>539976340 I purchased a rotary trimmer to cut down trim time. I can crop the whole garden in 8 hours by myself so I don't really need any help :P Perhaps we will cross paths some day. I'd give you my contact info but I gotta be anon. I'm sure you understand.
I work a full time 9-5 business job and lead a very ordinary life. I have a girlfriend whom I am going to marry very soon. I have a degree. I guess one thing I get out of it is free smoke all the time 24/7. With the money, I pay off debts and save save save. I'm taking a vacation in a month or so with some of my grow money.
>>539967092 How much do you sell for, and who to? Like, what's the chain from you to me, the guy buying a quarter from some dealer for $50. I'm Canadian so I'm not asking what I should be paying, just curious how the markup moves along and what you get out of it.
>>539977559 Ok this is a complex question so I'll explain
When I wasnt growing it (ie. I was a runner), it went from a grower to a middle man, then from that middle man to another, then to me.
When I first started growing, I sold in bulk to a solid customer of mine from the past. Someone who I set up as a runner for me.
Now I grow so little that I sell it myself. All of my client base is 1oz clients. I dont really mes around too much with quarters and 8ths. So from me to you would be just that. I grow it and sell it to you fresh.
I sell 8ths for $25, quarts for $50, halfs for $80 and oz for $160. or $1600 bulk lb.
If I sell it to someone for $1600/lb they will probably mark it up to $200/oz which is $3200 - Double what I sold it for to them
>>539978282 Well they say that MH is better for veg and HPS is better for flower but if you get a full spectrum bulb, there is no difference. HPS is more efficient and has a wider range of usable light. I use HPS for both with no issues.
>>539978509 No but I use this for cat litter :P Doesnt diatomaceous earth clump when wet? i don't imagine it would drain well.
>>539978908 If you love something, fight for it. If you know you're not right for the thing you love, then let it go. I don't think anything is truly meant to be but with drive and determination, anything can be so.
>>539979018 I recommend you get a match box (the type wooden matches come in, and peel off the striker strip or use an emery board and glue it inside the box. Place seeds in the box and give it a shake. This will shave down the seed wall and allow water to permeate better. Then you want to soak the seeds in water for 12 hours then place in damp paper towel in a tupperware container and place it on a cable box or something for heat. In 1-5 days, yo should see sprouts. Then place sprouts tap root down in soil approx 1cm deep. Make sure soil is PH neutral and you DO NOT fertilize.
Do this every year. Spring Hike into a pasture in bumfuck. Fire up weedeater and clear out a patch - about 10' radius. Come back later when it looks like rain and hoe it up, toss seeds and hoe in. Stay the fuck away from there. Hike back in mid june and pull out weeds. Check on it now and then - every 3 weeks or so. Pick buds before they seed, Get 1 1/2 to 2 lbs.
You won't be able to produce dence, THC laden buds under a cfl. You need 80,000 lumens+ Small CFL's only put out like 9,000. You can certainly veg under the CFL light though. I'd buy an HPS bulb for flower, however.
Good rule is once the plant is a foot tall and pretty bushy with growth, switch to 12/12. Don't go 6:18. Will just stifle growth.
Basically you can flower a plant at any time. Rule is the plant will roughly double in height once flowered. so if you want a 2ft plant, flower at 1 foot. You want a 1 ft plant, flower at 6 inches (so long as the plant can sustain bud growth).
>>539981157 I honestly just started. I ordered cambodian cubenses 10cc spore syringe off premium spores. Bough 1/2 pint canning jars. an incubator setup, a rubbermaid bin for innoculation, a kettle for sterilization, etc, etc.
Cost about $100 for everything. Not so bad.
My jars are just colonizing as we speak in an TIT incubator.
>>539980448 PS How does one go about getting seeds? Also, I wanted to maybe practice botany for non psychoactive reasons. Just rig something together for fun. Any book recommendations on keeping a private garden for fun? Or the like?
order seeds online. There are many dispensaries that have covert shipping options. Some ship in wallets, and other unique things so theyre is limited suspicion.
If you're growing recreationally without illegal substances, the sky is the limit! What I suggest is you set up a really professional grow table. Something small and manageable like 4x4ft with a 600 watt hps. Can grow herbs, vegetables, hot peppers, whatever you want!
>>539981461 Even if you go with one of those really thick 32 gallon cans? I remember seeing a forum post about a guy who got one of those and then ran 5 or 6 CFL tubes vertically, the one plant he had in there grew insanely in every direction
It's a possibility. To be honest, I don't have any experience with this! I'd imagine verticle CFL tubes would provide nice light from all sides but if the plant touches the bulbs, the leaves burn so small spaces are hard. Plus CFLs will only achieve small, loose buds.
I was scrounging around my basement and I came across a 35mm film canister half full of seeds I collected back in the 80's. These must be about 30 years old. I was wondering if they would still be viable after so long.
>>539982534 Yes but if they're stored properly, they last really long. They must be stored in a cool dark place to remain viable for long periods of time. There's a possibility they're still viable yes.
>>539982583 Yep pretty much. Again, I have a partner who is a faggot and limits what I can do because he wants a say in shit. If I had it my way I'd scrog with 5-10 plants and run a drip for watering.
>>539967092 I'd like to grow a plant, don't really care about the yield because it's just for me, but I do want it to be the kinda potent that'd knock a purple nigger on his ass. Also, I live in the middle of a very big city. Where do I get started?
If you read some of the thread you'll find answers to this question. I recommend starting with a book bro. Yield and potency go hand in hand typically. A low yielding jew plant will have shit THC. A high yielding purple nigger fucker will be pretty potent! It's all about strain and how well you grow.
>>539986681 I just started vegging some little ladies (hopefully) under SOME CFLs, plan to switch to HPS for flowering. Hopefully I'll end up with 4 good females. Will one 400 watt HPS be enough for the 4? If I supplemented with CFLs would it work?
>>539986684 Negative. It's just too risky with a confined space such as my own. If I had a separate room with adequate provisions to prevent cross pollination, I'd dabble around with this. Maybe one day!
>>539986687 Never heard of it. Lots of great strains out there though!
>>539986856 if you get the seeds from a good site they should have descriptions about what type of seeds they are. if they are best grown inside or out, how long its takes them to harvest, stuff like that.
Initial setup was around $1000. Maybe $1500 after electricity and incidentals. Made $4000 first harvest.
>>539987049 Didn't affect my career. I'm a weed consultant. I wouldn't say sensei..I don't know enough about different growing methods like hydro and outdoor to call myself a sensei. Maybe in 10-15 more years of doing it.
>>539986017 yeah exactly man unfortunately i live in a neighbourhood with LOTS of neighbours and my neighbours are kind of like exlusively niggers who recognize the smell of weed from miles away so my home will get raided before the cannabis even flowers
soo growing at home is not an option but im thinking about renting a storage unit or something
>>539987727 Its always cheaper to build your own solar panels. buy the parts on Ebay, and there are tons of youtube video's explaining how to build it. i don't grow weed or smoke it but people could have avoided getting caught for using access power if they only had solar panels.
>>539988431 you don't need 1000$ to have a good setup, be Efficient. plants. you could easily setup some mirrors or aluminum all over the walls to reflect most of the light back to the plant. start small, get one and grow as you need. experiment with being as efficient as possible you will save a ton of money.
If I give you my e-mail will you teach me how and tell me everything I need? I really want to start growing, because Medical Marijuana is about to be legalized here in NC and I want a head start on my plants.
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