So I'm watching my friend let his mom die on facebook currently... Follow the pics
I'm in blue, he's in red.
Gnarly. She will definitely need surgery and will be in the hospital for a couple of weeks.
OP you should call the amberlamps and get her to the hospital asap
what a fucking dumbass, you don't let a woman sleep with a necrotizing wound on her back just because "she's stressed and hard a hard day"
tell him to call the ambulance anyway, they'll drag her there themselves
why the fuck hasn't any of the other idiots commenting on this called 911?
OP, you're as responsible for her death as her idiot son is since you're watching all this.
Just call 911, get her a fucking ambulance NOW
Fucking tell him to call an ambulance. They are required to come check it out and get a signed refusal to go to the hospital at the very least. Chances are with it that bad they wont allow a refusal and would bring her in reguardless of what she says
>JESUS HAS UH PLAN
>JESUS KNOWS BEST
Looks like your God takes Thursdays off!
That makes me hate spiders so much fucking more. Obviously this kid is fucking downs. Find a way to get the address and send an ambulance. There's no reason the kid should be so calm about it... I seriously feel disgusting looking at that shit. /realcringe
Make him aware that if shes dies it's his fault and you will no have problem speaking against him when he is charged for for neglecting her. Or, just call him a retard and call an amberlamps yourself.
your friend's mom is going to die.
Fucking stupid rednecks, let the old bitch die and hopefully the little faggot that cares absolutely nothing about reality and only "gods plane" ann-heroes the US is a fucking cesspool.
new post, not gonna SS because I can just paste
"People just don't understand. I've actually taken everyone's advice. As soon as everyone told me to take her asap I called her and told her I was coming to get her from granny's house and she told me that she just wanted sleep and swore to me that she would be at the er by 8 in the morning. I really did try to go get her but I don't want to scare her more than she already is. So I'm going to let her get rest cause that's all she wants. But I'll give an update in the morning. I really need to get to sleep though so all I ask is for a quick prayer. God bless yall and good night!"
I guess jesus' plan is to let his mom die
>PRAISE BE TO JEBUS LAWDIE
Being a Christian fag and having other Christian fags making it worse. When inbred Nashville kids think God does their fucking laundry and sucks their cocks too.
Even if you called an ambulance they would need her consent to take her unless they found her to be incompetent enough to make her own decisions. Honestly though I think you should still try it. Look through your phone book or something. Check his facebook page for any information. Call his friends. Do something.
Fucking dumb asses make me sick, well at least they're dieing from their stupidity now. When she dies he's going to say it was gods plan and that it was her time, which is going to make more feel more religious cause of his revelation and more of these stupid fucks will spawn. I don't know if religious leaders know how well religion is working to keep people stupid.
All this god and prayer talk is irritating. A small part of me hopes she dies so that maybe he learns a lesson, but you just know he's gonna say some shit like "it was god's will" and someone will say "god needed a caring angel so he took your mom. Prayers and strength sent your way brother". It's like a catch 22 with these fuckers. Pisses me off so hard I need to tend to my fedoras.
>everyone says same thing
>wants to wait till morning
fucking idiot. Also, that's not a brown recluse bite. psure tha would have killed her within the first week. it might be a flesh eatting disease, though.
RSA may progress substantially within 24–48 hours of initial topical symptoms. After 72 hours, MRSA can take hold in human tissues and eventually become resistant to treatment. The initial presentation of MRSA is small red bumps that resemble pimples, spider bites, or boils; they may be accompanied by fever and, occasionally, rashes. Within a few days, the bumps become larger and more painful; they eventually open into deep, pus-filled boils. About 75 percent of community-associated (CA-) MRSA infections are localized to skin and soft tissue and usually can be treated effectively
>she's been fine for a week
[And on the 7th day he rested]
>mfw God ain't got time for that and mom death
Memphis fag reporting in.
Yeah brown recluse bites are not to be fucked with, but i've never seen one so far gone.
Your friend is an idiot op, but he can't actually force her to go if she refuses.
1. THANK YOU.
2. FUCK THIS GAY EARTH. OP'S FRIEND AND HIS MOM COULD BE SUBHUMAN SHIT THAT AREN'T WORTH EXPENDING RESOURCES TO SAVE, BUT GOD DAMMIT AM I MAD ABOUT SOMEONE LETTING HIS OWN MOTHER DIE ON ACCOUNT OF BEING FUCKING RETARDED.
OP DID ANYONE TELL HIM HE COULD ALSO CALL AN AMBULANCE INSTEAD OF TAKING HER HIMSELF?
WHY CAN'T I STOP CAPSLOCKING. I AM ENRAPTURED WITH ANGER AT YOUR FUCKING NEANDERTHAL 'FRIEND'.
AT LEAST WHEN HIS MOM DIES HE'LL HAVE AN INTERNET RECORD OF HOW IT WAS ALL HIS FAULT.
Lol why do you care, you're obviously not close to them, you don't even know where he lives you stupid faggot.
If they want to kill themselves they can do it, it's probably better if they're so fucking stupid they don't want to seek immediate medical attention, hopefully this faggot kills himself after he's ashamed that he let his own mom kill her self with stupidity. Rid the world of two less retards.
This has got to be fake. No one is that stupid. Now having said that underneath all that necrotic tissue the wound bed looks healthy. She is probably not going to die but dear god they are both stupid.
God God God, dayum, his mom will die, as a catholic in a catholic family, I fucking know that God gave us enough intelligence to fucking use science to save our fucking lifes! Goddamnit, idiots like this and more extremists religious people make theists look bad.
Assuming they are in the U.S, an adult can refuse medical treatment. The fb status confirms several times that the lady opted to wait it out and go to the r&r later. He isn't breaking any laws.
>using le meme arrows on Facebook
you obviously have no clue. when shit like this happens it's best to get it checked ASAP cuz you don't know how much worse it will be in the morning. Flesh eating bacteria is no joke.
That is not MRSA...just going to put that to bed.
MRSA and Brown Recluse bites look the same at the onset, but the progression of necrosis over that period of time (one week) would suggest a Brown Recluse bite.
I've spent the last year and a half going around the country and running seminars on methods of preventing MRSA outbreaks in the workplace. A year prior I was a researcher in Louisiana and came across plenty of folks who were bitten by Brown Recluse spiders.
This lady is in desperate need of medical attention - if this was taken care of earlier, she probably would have saved herself the upcoming nightmare of skin grafts.
>HES at NIOSH (Part of the CDC)
Yeeahhh, no, that's not a brown recluse bite. highly localized necrotic tissue with so little inflammatory response is indicative of a fucking nasty NF infection. Like, she's at the point of amputation nasty. bein real, if it's on her back, it won't matter if she goes to the hospital at this point, she's pretty much dead or paralyzed in the long run. if any of the necrosis has reached he circulatory system, she's hardcore fucked. shes probably feeling tired and woozy from increasing blood toxicity.
>Books: Bible, The Holy Bible, The Bible
OP here, if you want me to keep you in the look email me here
hospitalplz at hmamail com
On the contrary, people can list their religion as a reason to refuse medical treatment. Adults can refuse their sick child medical treatment on the grounds that a procedure goes against their faith. A good example of this is John trovolta's late son. He suffered from autism but was denied any type of treatment by his parents because Scientology refuses to acknowledge that autism is real. How can you treat something if you don't beleive it exists?
Hey OP, medfag here...
University of pennsylvania school of Medicine allumni
15 years in practice.
Not going to lie, there is only two outcomes at this point... One being of which is death; the other serious deformation. However i am leaning towards death you see with necrotizing fasciitis(This looks like type II ) it goes deeper rather then wider, and travels in the blood system very quickly. It becomes difficult to remove simply because it starts to spread to multiple intestines and reconstructive surgey is not always on option. With her being so tired at this point the bacteria definitely has run thru the entire circulatory system and there is a good chance of internal damage you cannot see.
25% chance of survival if this really has been onset for a week.
Aaand that's Darwinism in action. Too bad she has a son already, kinda misses the point.
If a person honestly thinks that an unknown infection just carved a hole on your back and it's spreading but "It will heal if I don't pick at it", she honestly deserves to depart from this existence.
You do realize that a big part of the reason Brown recluse bites do what they do is that brown recluse venom hosts and promotes MRSA growth, right? Cause if you really had done said research, you would know that.
Charles Darwin is watching from a safe distance and discreetly giggling.
Silly Americans with their silly names.
This is what he gets for being a poor failure.
If he had money and success, this could have been prevented or treated at an earlier phase.
He have no one to blame other than himself.
Its time your friend took some responsibility in life and stopped crying, and started getting angry.
He needs to get angry for letting this happen and so that it doesn't happen to anyone else in his family in the future.
Don't fail your family because in the end, those are the only people who are hard wired to actually give a fuck about you.
Get angry and do something with your lives.
Learn from this guy's mistake.
How can she be this selfish and naive? I understand that she is scared of the bite, but to do NOTHING and let it get bigger and deeper is akin to suicide. She deserves to die if she is that asinine.
Someone archive this thread. #CHRISTMOMDEATHWATCH2014
He could call the ambulance. If they came I'm sure they could convince her to go by telling her (with some medical authority) that she might die/lose a limb/etc. if she refused treatment.
I have dealt with this situation before, of a parent needing medical attention but not wanting it. You call the fucking ambulance and then it's not your problem anymore, it's the cops and EMTs' problem.
OP, if you care, you should paraphrase these and post them on the status, tell him to take her to the hospital himself.
Although it would be a little lulzy to see this idiot's guilt after he lets his mom die
What are you guys doing with his account? I can't see the post, and I highly doubt he's adding friends at the moment. Are you messaging him about how he's a murderer? Or just biding your time?
You know this puts you in the mid 40's range. A medical degree at Perelman can take around 8 years, and then 15 years of actual practice, unless you counted the time when you interned.
No hate here...just think it's cool that there are some well off older people lurking the threads.
stfu before I stick my 8" cock into your country and claim it for the good ol' U.S of A, faggot. We'll establish a military presence in your country and fuck up your infrastructure for the lulz. Did you learn nothing from what we've done to the Middle East? WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
I was just thinking this. How the fuck did it get like this in the first place? The human body isn't exactly a magnet for this kind of stuff, it has an immune system and shit.
How little care do you have to take of it for it to be like this for a WEEK before it's even brought up? What kind of shit do you have to be used to that you would leave something like this alone for a week? Holy fuck I actually want this woman to die tonight, not even kidding.
Anyone who types like a hillbilly deserves their mother to be taken by a spider bite.
It can be hours in some cases. If it's NF or a similar condition then her insides are probably a lot worse than what is currently visible.
She's going to have a ridiculously long and painful recovery even if she gets to a hospital today.
As soon as it hits the blood stream. She'll be JUST fine until she has a symptom like a heart attack, and it will be either a degenerative complication from necrotizing fascitis or merca/staph infection.
Two days she'll be dead.
For the love of Jeebus, someone please archive that shit. It must live on where the mother cannot, and spread its gospel of idiocy and stubbornness.
It's like the guy by the river during a flood saying god will save me, and he says this to a neighbor, a guy in a boat and a helicopter rescue worker. He ends up dead and god says "what the fuck, I send three people to help you..."
Any one else trying to look fir these faggots?
Here is the latest victim of Natural Selection, as of tonight.
Would you hit it? All part of God's plan, you know.
Let me save you and OP some time and trouble.
> "it's god's will. Praying for you"
>" thoughts and prayers being sent your way"
> "man this sucks. At least you tried. Praying for you and her soul"
>" her spirit will always be with you. She's waiting for you in heaven. Hugs and strength going your way"
>" I'm so sorry for your loss."
>" wow what an enexpected way to pass away, but god works in mysterious ways."
> "out of context bible quote inserted here"
Blah blah blah you get the picture
>definitely spider bite, most likely brown recluse
>definitely not MRSA
>definitely needs medical care
>worrying about 1500 dollar ambulance ride when she'll need surgical debridement and skin grafts = my sides.
Some people overreacted, isn't a neurotoxin that affects your brain or heart, but it is on her back, she's probably fat, diabetic, judging from her stubbornness, and it is WAY infected for sure. It will be a long painful process to heal that thing. It's the kind of bite that the students at my hospital would be shown as a medical teaching scenario.
I can't possibly explain how rustled my jimmies are right now. Fuck religion, fuck retards, and fuck this gay earth.
It's already been a week. It doesn't take much longer for the infection to kill the host. You must not be familiar with these. It is quite possible in the time she sleeps, it can drastically alter her condition negatively. She should go now, but fuckard son thinks simply her saying "no" is enough reason not to.
Well we have another doctorfag on here who said she has a 25% chance of survival, so I don't know who's right at this point. Either way it's either very serious, or deadly serious.
Not call ambylamps in the AM serious.
>Mfw Americans can't afford healthcare so they pray to Santa Clause for treatment
It's not necessarily that her condition will deteriorate so excessively while she sleeps, although the fact that she is already exhausted is an indication that it may.
It's that it may already be too late, or right on the line.
If this is it, call an Ambulance for her, or see if one has been dispatched. She's fucking stupid, but this could be a great lesson for them.
Or deliver Balloons that say "God's plan was for your mom to die."
Hospitals are not govt. owned. They only have a limited amount of ambulances they own. Private ambulance companies are also used. Both expect to be paid. Why is is so hard for you weirdos to get it through your heads that this country is bigger than yours, thus it costs a SHIT TON OF MONEY to give out this much free shit. And Canada-fags...STFU. You have a crazy low population density in comparison.
So. I'm sorry you are spoiled Euro-fag. And I'm sorry I blew up. It is frustrating and there is a system that is slowly and horribly being worked out. But, really. Look at how many fucking people live here. Money does not grow on trees. Take an econ class if you are still confused.
Well, OP? You have the address. Now call the ambulance.
I'm not doing it. I don't know these people, don't know this is real, and am not getting in trouble if you're a faggot somehow.
Besides which, I already called 911 today for a stranger, and I ain't doing it twice in one day.
Batter up, OP. This one's all you.
We have Red Cross, They came for you in an ambulance treat you and when you're ok you can pay a tip and Sometimes you pay for some medicines Also when you need to still be treat on an hospital They can take you to an hospital or the Social Secure(Poor to mid class hace This, That works when you Buy a Secure, a company where you work can give you for you and your Family).
Found Shaun Alexander on Facebook. Also, Jay Groves. Pretty sure I'd need to be friends to see the status. If anyone wants to do it just type Jay Groves and should be one of the first results in Facebook search.
Call an ambulance for him anon style, required to look at her at least. Everyone involved sounds retarded
I spat all over the screen and almost shit myself
She may. The human body is pretty fucking good at staying alive, we've evolved to do it for awhile now...but if it gets septic or gets into deep tissue, it can be a real problem, leading to a syndrome that may end in death. If she doesn't go to the hospital, and doesn't treat this at all, it'd probably take 18 months to heal, and it'd leave a huge scar, and it might cause a buildup of scar tissue in and around her back that will bother her forever. Just hope the build up of scar tissue doesn't get into or around the spine, or idk what'd happen. I'm just a stupid intern now, not a neurologist, but I guarantee it'd be a pretty shitty outcome.
The problem is that its not being worked out because AINT NO GOVERMENT TAKIN' MAH RIGHTS! FUCK THAT DAMN COMMIE, SOCALIST, NIGGER, MUSLIM OBAMA! AMMERIKUH AINT NEED NO HEALTHCARE!
All it takes is a few hours for this to spread to the vital organs, and seeing as how deep it is already wouldn't be surprised if she's already "dead" as in she can't be saved
Ill translate that
We have Red Cross, They come for you in an ambulance treat you and when you're ok you can tip them. Sometimes you pay for some medicine. Also when you need treatment on a hospital, They can take you there or the "Social Insurance" (Poor to mid class have this), That works when you Buy an Insurance, The company you work for MUST pay either social or private insurance for your family.
When he posted this thread, OP didn't think about the fact that if /b/ found the address, he'd be responsible to call.
Now he's regretting it because he doesn't really want to be responsible for that.
But guess what OP? It's too late not to be involved. Make the call, son.
>mfw facebook posts about his mom shitting out intestine soup at 4 in the morning
We should take all the posts and ideas collected here, especially the ones about how serious this stuff is and Post it on his wall, how he'll be held accountable for dying at his moms side. We need to show them that people really do die from how these things he needs to deal with it. Though the question is how do we alert him to his mistake in such a short time.
Is today the day the Internet/ebaumsworld saves a life.
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Tell the dude that two medical professionals looked at it, one said she might lose the limb, the other said she will probably die.
That might get your stupid friend motivated to call for his mom, maybe?
Maybe you should look around at the rest of the world anon, population size has nothing to do with it. Every single country that has a nationalised medical system pays ridiculously less in terms of GDP than the US does in cleaning up the failed mess that your system creates. Your media lies to you - national healthcare systems are possible.
Only solution at this point. Cleave her skull in two to save her the misery of impending death.
Fellas, let her go, life will not be worth living for her anyway. Her son is mentally retarded and she will have an ugly graft on her back which will prevent her from ever getting remarried. This in turn will result in a downward economic spiral for her as she must now pay her medical bills. I am assuming she is a Repubelican based on where she lives and how her son speaks which means she is probably "boycotting" Obamacare as most idiots in this country do. With no insurance she will pay out her spider hole and life will get very unpleasant resulting with her and her son resorting to incest pornography on the internet for quick cash. After ten years of hot slick mother-son baby making the son will commit suicide as to not have to take care of their deformed brother/son, which would leave the mother in a household with no form of income (other than Govt. checks, i know it's ironic) she will sell the baby to a Chinese restaurant for meth money before overdosing in a puddle of her own filth. Just don't do it guise.
I'm baffled. Did you read what I said or just spew the same rhetoric every damn eurofag seems to think is correct?
Also, how does economy correlate directly with national debt? Firms are the economy, the government and ITS debt is a separate thing entirely. They can have some effect on each other, but a good economy (which we have...don't argue...shit look at your dumb asses, and Greece...and South America now) obviously does not suddenly make a separate entities debt just vanish.
Because we have freedom and god, not bastard-commie healthcare to take care of us.
No the truth if you look at it goes like this: this country is fucking huge, and people actually call ambulances and emergency room visits for small emergencies a few stitches or alignments at a cheap clinic could cover. This inflates an already bloated system thats fucked as is. Not to mention that every single facet of the heathcare business is being fucked over by other smaller businesses within it.
The business that runs a rural clinic in bumfuck nowhere, South Dakota, needs to airlift "specialty" patients to a proper hospital several hundred miles out. The bill on those flights (provided by another company) were almost enough to "bankrupt" the clinic. Nurses get smaller pay, equipment suffers, and the CEO can still drive around in his chromed-up Ford F150 because he played a damn good game of politics to get to that position.
You see, here in America your wallet comes first. Hell it probably works the same way in Europe just a difference in the system.
You only matter due to the paper in your pocket.
Maybe if you eurofags actually had decent higher education you would realize what you just said made no sense. My schooling may not be free but US has the most prolific higher education in the world, which means the best.
Abandoning thread. Christie is kill. "no."
OP since you aren't willing to call ambylamps, maybe you can at least update us tomorrow when this dude comes back on FB to tell us his mom is dead.
I don't understand how you can even dare claim to be free after the past couple of years. The Founding Fathers would be absolutely disgusted with you all and the fact that you allowed this to happen.
MFW 'Murrfags avoiding treatment for potentially life threatening spider bite because of hospital bills that they can't afford cause of shitty med system
Do you wanna know what that faggot did?
Told his mom that the infection will be alright and go to sleep, it's all ok
Then invented some bullshit excuse on Facebook how she doesn't want to go to the hospital
Everyone you know deserves to die.
Worked in the healthcare field (on economic side)
>and people actually call ambulances and emergency room visits for small emergencies
This is actually a huge problem, like incredibly huge. That and people using health services in general without getting any benefit out of it (Oregon Medicaid Study for example).
what part of the "back" is this... looks like a penis
>national healthcare systems are possible.
Very few are single-payer, most are better implementations of multi-payer (what the US has). The best is account payer, which is really only done in Singapore. It's not a matter of the system being wrong, just done poorly.
"God helps those who help themselves" Love that quote, as a christian I cant stand when people refuse to take action because they think God is some kind of personal baby sitter who will literally save you if you toss yourself off the empire state building.
Well, god will surely take care of it. As he does always take care of the sick and tortured. ;)
I wish all the religious idiots would act like that. Would make the world a better place. And no ammo needs to be wasted...
You sir, are an idiot. It has few top tier high ed schools, to name one MIT.
Europe has Harvard, Oxford, Delft, TUM and KTH. And now dumb, ignorant American you dare to say Murica has "definitely the tops"?
What an idiot you are.
Never worked in the Healthcare field, my entire family though: CEO, doctors, nurses, EMT, janitors. It seems like its an obligation for me now. I was completely surprised to hear that the little clinic brought in a negotiator and cut nearly 25k off the cost of each flight. They now charge around 4-5k and still make a killing, Its crazy.
Praying that she dies right now.
This is survival of the fittest my friends. let the stupid die.
That wasn't a picture of her, clearly if you had brain in your skull you knuckle dragger, you would realize that it was not posted by the kid with the sick mother, but by another person giving and example of MRSA to shed light upon the condition the mother may or may not be in.
Anon... ugh this was a losing battle. I'm not arguing that it is or isn't possible, but rather that it's just not feasible. It literally is like trying to walk up a shit covered hill. We may have liteally the best GDP, but that spending, like you kind of got at, is sure as hell not being spent on free coverage. This country has more private entities than you can shake a stick at. You have more government owned entities (by the way, good luck with that if they ever turn sour) so a national health care system was easy to implement. Also, getting your country blown up several times in the 30's 40's helped a little.
Either your friend is a poor ass nigger, or a retarded inbred white trash...either way I'm nominating this for a Darwin Award