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Thread Topic:
What pisses you off most in airsoft that's technically acceptable. Not unsafe behavior, just pet peeves.
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>>824993
PEW PEW
A PEW PEW
CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY SQUIRT GUNS WITH MY "FRIENDS" AT THE BUS GARAGE TOGETHER
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Posted at the ass end of the last thread but here ya go again
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>What pisses you off most in airsoft that's technically acceptable. Not unsafe behavior, just pet peeves.
The only thing that has gotten me truly mad is a cancerous admin that shows crazy amounts of favouratism.
I can green text a story if anyone gives a shit.
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>>825076
Go for it.
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>outlaw nerf
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>>825076
>mfw we're those people that the refs prefer
Being a ref at a bbwar field is legit a pretty shitty job though.
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>>825076
>>825083
>>825093

Alright I had to do some serious MS painting on an aerial map of the field I was on to help illustrate my point.
The playing field is outlined in pink, green spawn was the red dot, tan spawn was yellow dot.
So it was raining for the two days prior and the creek (blue line) was overflowing. I'd say it was about 7-10 feet wide and about 2 feet deep and it was moving along at a decent pace.
For some reason the admin has green spawn on peninsula on the other side of the creek EVERY SINGLE GAME. The only way to the other side of the creek was across a foot wide, ungrounded procession of wooden pallets. The team had to go single file across the 'bridge' to get to the field or back to respawn (which was frequent since we had only 1 medic when we were supposed to have 5)
So as you might expect by the time 1/5th of our team was across the creek at the start of the game, tan team had already pushed into the houses at the creek bed. Needless to say we got massacred before even crossing the bridge out of spawn. The few times we were even able to cross nobody could clear the buildings because the only people that were still around were the kids with rentals and no pistols.
As this all was happening the admin was sitting on our spawn simultaneously yelling through a loudspeaker that we need to push up and calling people out that on our side that were being shot at in the most remote sense.

My favourite point was when I was inside one of the buildings behind a tan player (unaware I was there) with the admin. I pointed out the situation and that I didn't have a pistol and asked if there was anything I could do to kill him. Admin said literally 'just get a pistols it's not even a matter of money I have 6 of them' and told me to go respawn.
There's so many solutions to this whole situation I wouldn't even know where to start.
I'm probably leaving bits out but it's past midnight so oh-well. I'll go to bed angry now.
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>>825076
Lower Face Protection, people who wear it are scummers or shitters 90% of the time.

Minimum Engagement Distances, bang rules and pistols only is utter bullshit, I'm fine with no F/A indoors.

Airsoft is a big-boy game, if you wanna keep it a big-boy game you have to play by big-boy rules.

People who can't take hits shouldn't play.
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>>825156
Hey man I like having my teeth unchipped.
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>>825156
> no F/A indoors
What's that?
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>>825156
>Lower Face Protection
Sorry, I like my teeth.

And 90% of the time, MEDs are based on insurance, so if you like your local field's prices and cleanliness, you only get that because they agree to certain policies with their insurance company.
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>>825189
>>825159
Wear a mouth guard like any other sport than. Or you know be on your gun and paying attention. Hard to get shot in the tooth when your your face is buried into your stock. I'll say it again every time I've run into a cheater or scummer they've been a fucktard in a full face mask or have one of those mesh lowers.

>>825172
Generally excessive, also with most large OP rules Riflemen are restricted to semi-auto and comparatively lower power, and the only F/A guys are MGs with higher energy limits. It changes the pace of indoor engagements, it leans them towards to the more skilled and co-ordinated teams.

But what do I know i've only been playing since 2000....
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>>810170
Hey man if you're around can I get a sauce on your jacket?
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Post closets
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>>810170
Get some SDWGs instead of what you have now.
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>>825191
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>>825191
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
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>>825144
Who's running D14 these days?
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>>825076
cheaters and assholes

I saw a video, that i can't find, where a guy just fucking ran around a cqb field yelling bang bang at everyone he ran past

love watching videos of cheaters, though especially when the guy recording sprays them down
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>>825144
>My favourite point was when I was inside one of the buildings behind a tan player (unaware I was there) with the admin. I pointed out the situation and that I didn't have a pistol and asked if there was anything I could do to kill him. Admin said literally 'just get a pistols it's not even a matter of money I have 6 of them' and told me to go respawn.
I would have Solid Snake'd that mother fucker.
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>>825265
While he is abusing the bang-out rule, I don't see that as cheating. Just being an ass.
I think I know the video you're talking about though. Was it some speedQB type guy at an indoor field in California?
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>>825273
>speedQB type guy at an indoor field in California?
fuck if I know, it saw it a few months ago

speaking of assholes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QNg3G2ewAA
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>>825280
qpeedqb holocaust when
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>>825284
i wish speedsofters were barred from playing airsoft outside their speedsoft corrals tbH
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>>825289
>mfw my local indoor field used to be a full auto speedqb extravaganza, but now they're enforcing strict semi auto only rules and have RPS limits if they're doing 18+ full auto games
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>>825293
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>>825191
Thank you for your service, and God bless America.
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Post your handguns, gentlemen.
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>>825332
Impractical and expensive weeaboo gun soon.
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I don't like fields that don't divide teams based on color

Also r8 my woodland loadout
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>>825346
fully sick bathroom dude
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Comrade there is no overkill.

>>824993
I don't mind anybody playing operator dress-up, in fact I do like that, what I hate most is when players act like if they were real operators in combat or something, first makes me cringe a fucking lot and second I hate when somebody feels like he is better than others for thinking that he is a SFOD-D SUPER OPERATOR YEAH. fuck that.
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>>825191
>I'll say it again every time I've run into a cheater or scummer they've been a fucktard in a full face mask or have one of those mesh lowers.
So... out of the majority of players come the majority of cheaters? There's loads of times where I won't have my gun in my face, like if I'm using a pistol or carrying an objective. You can cry and make shitty associations all you like, but I like my teeth where they are and would rather not impede communications as much as a full mouth guard.
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>>825378
>Not getting some of those long ass Molot RPK magazines
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>>825381
They don't fit in my AK, I need Dboys mags, nothing else fits.
I think it's an issue with the hop up block
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Collection:

-Classic Army M4A1 2015
-Real Sword Type 97B
-LCT VSS with Wolverine Inferno
-G&G SIG550 going through cosmetic resto.
-Classic Army SR25.
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>>825399
No pix no clix
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>>825399
Fucking phone didnt post a pic.
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>>825401
>Wow so hd

More on the Type97.
How does it run?
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>>825402
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>>825404
Really fucking good, for a stock gun, it shoots fucking awesome.
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>>825404
>>825408
Want so much...
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>>825404
Can never find Real Sword anymore, especially not the Type 97.
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>>825419
Redwolf had them last time I checked.
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>>825191
>every time I've run into a cheater or scummer they've been a fucktard in a full face mask or have one of those mesh lowers
>I hate people who wear them
>that's why I hate lower face protection
so you learning, boi?
>I am a big-boy playing at a big-boy game, playing by big-boy rules, taking hits like a big-boy
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>>825421
>>825419

Bought it new from Airsplat, serial number is so low, I believe it was an old stock.
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>>825346
>speedQB
Yo where'd your mom get those curtains, son? Shit's tight af
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>>825346
Is it me, or is that bathroom completely carpeted?
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>>825516
Tier 1 stupidity right there
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Had a lot of fun yesterday
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>>825156
Pistols only for a round or two with everyone having pistols is fun. That being said I like running only my pistol in CQB and killhouse style arenas.
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>>825516
Not you, deffo carpet.

>>824993
Recently bought an Echo1 M14, wondering if anyone knows if this would fit it. I've read about people having issues with the size of the holes and whatnot, would like to buy one that just works.
>http://www.torontoairsoft.com/CYMA-M14-Top-Rail-Mount-Kit-20mm_p_799.html

Related to this, does anyone have a recommendation for sights? I play indoor and outdoor roughly in equal amounts, so a mid-range sight might be for the best for now.
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>>825544
Unless you have one of those SOCOM M14s or your indoor fields are more open then I'd recommend not bothering with an M14 indoors.
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>>825548
It's fairly open in places, and there are a couple of two-storey buildings, as well as a decent number of game types with only a limited number of people allowed upstairs.
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>>825555
Maybe a variable zoom scope then
That or a red dot with a magnifier
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>>825560
Alright, thanks Anon.
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>>825341
Fucking glorious. I promised myself I'd buy a Mateba one day, but my World War 2 kit is expensive, and I keep buying more and more shit.
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>>825156
>no lower face protection
>also no MED

Full retard
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I know its a bit early but has anyone else thought about the National Airsoft Festival that happens every year in the UK?

It's not especially organised like a milsim event, but it's such a good excuse to go play "Let's pretend" in a field for a long weekend, would be great to do it with other people in the thread.
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>>825156
Having seen someone get his entire front tooth shot out from a sniper at long range I am terrified of not using full face protection. I'm not losing a tooth over a sodding game of pretend.
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>>825144
>I can green text a story
why didn't you greentext

>>825156
Agreed
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I knew this thread would either be here or on /k/.

I'm thinking about getting into airsoft despite having never done it before. I'm in the UK and could join my university's airsoft society. Anyone have tips or advice for me?
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>>825665
-get in contact with them, many fields have some sort of borrow equipment system
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>>824993
>What pisses you off most in airsoft
>1911, ar-15 variant, multicam combo

I know I sound like an autist.
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>>825682
Multicam does it for me, and only standard multicam. Its not really the stigma around it, it just looks fucking ugly. Multicam Tropic and all the other offshoots are alright.
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>>825665
Start cheap. Try and borrow a spare gun if you can, if not just rent one. Have some fun, enjoy getting hurt, treat it as a social outing first and a sports activity second.

Play by the rules hard. Don't call out other people for not playing by the rules.

Do it in either jeans and a hoodie, or check your local army surplus for some CS95 combats. Boots are pretty mandatory but any kind of boot will do.

What uni are you at? Fuck I wish mine had an airsoft society.
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>>825677
I'll go along to a meeting they're having in a couple of days. Won't be able to actually play until next term though.

>>825687
If I like the look of the group then I don't plan on buying a gun until I can get my UKARA signup. Looks like the society has their own rental system though so I'll probably just go with that.

I'm at UKC (Kent). I think the society is fairly new but I'm not really surprised, we even have a proper shooting society.
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>>825682
none of these are mine,
BUT YOU BETTER GET TRIGGERED
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>>825706
I went to UKC too about 4 years ago. From what I can remember there aren't many airsoft sites nearby. I guess they minibus about.
To show them all you're dead serious about airsoft remember to play CODBLOPS all night and memorise all lines, don't worry, they'll get the references.

Are you doing CS?
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>>825714
Fuck I hate 1911's and hi-capas. They're the ricer gun. Looking at those reminds me of Alienware laptops and Fast n' Furious movies.
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>>825717
>From what I can remember there aren't many airsoft sites nearby.
Damn. Yeah, they must bus or take the train then. I'll find out soon enough.

>Are you doing CS?
Nah, Pol/IR.
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>>825714
>gold
Why
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>>825719
>Fast n' Furious movies
now you triggered me.
I love all kinds of beautiful pistols but I cannot stand shitty movies. and FUCK THEM because there are always sequels.
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>>825771
forgot picture
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>>825781
Alright, NOW I wanna die
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>>825781
hi capa party
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>>825031
He get shot in the eye or get in a fight or what?
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>>825624
i'm thinking about it, depends who's going from my usual site. They usually send a group of ~30 or so.
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>>825280
I hate p*. Why even play the game. Its like bringing a fire hose to a water gun fight.
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>>826016
Fields just need to start enforcing an ROF cap.
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>>826016
Polarstars are as powerful as a high end AEG with a franken-motor
Its just that one costs a good chunk of money and the other money and time or more money for techwork.
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>>825332
>inb4 shitty paint job.

I like the worn look it has
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>>826016
I love my P*, quite frankly I wouldn't even bother playing if I didn't have a competitive advantage.
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>>826030
>ohboyherewego
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>>826030
>I wouldn't even bother playing if I didn't have a competitive advantage.
Y'know, I got nothing personal against HPA guns, but YOU are the cancer that kills airsoft. Git gud, scrub.
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>>826030
I have nothing against Star-holes, The advantage their guns bring is balanced by having to carry around a big tank and being tethered to their gun. Sites just need to learn that unless everyone at the event is okay with 50bps BB lasers they need to enforce an ROF limit.

20 is more than enough for everything.
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>>826030
>competitive advantage
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>>826030
(You)
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>>826047
I use semi only for my P* and keep it 325ish with .25s to keep it fair
Hell even my SAW weapon I keep under 15 because anything more eats through rounds too quickly for a suppressing weapon.
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What do you guys think of muh guns?
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>>826062
Good start, but lose the top rail and get a kobra
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>>826062
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>>826063
>Getting anything less than a real steel kobra
That's probably a $150 gun, and you want him to go buy a $400 optic to put on it?
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>>826069
Was just about to say, its just a CYMA and as much as I love slavshit theres not good Kobra knockoffs
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>>825714
nope, not yet.

guess I wasn't clear, it's the combination of the 3.
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>People who put optics on SAWs
Definition of wasted money if you don't already have the optic beforehand 2bh
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>>826099
>Being able to aim easier is stupid
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>>826062
Pretty much the closest you're going to get to a 1P63 Obzor.
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>>826101
>Airsoft full auto
>Precision
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>>826103
"Imma spray in their general direction until I get spotted and shot" outside of backyard warz its useful to have an optic, Timmy
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>>826105
You clearly haven't played airsoft outside of CQB then with a fully automatic setting
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>>826107
I only play outdoor and I can't stand playing without an optic, only noobs and poorfags use irons or walk their rounds on target. Optics also offer precision when getting the jump on someone or wanting to have first shot accuracy. But really, if you nag your mom enough maybe she'll buy you one.
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>>826109
So you haven't played full auto past 100 feet, have you?
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>>826109
>Precision

>Airsoft

Pick one m8.
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>>826109
It's more of a taste thing. I can't really stand optics, and I always use irons.
Also, when you're a machine gunner, all you need is a compass instead of a sight, because you're usually better off with correcting your aim by looking at the stream of BBs.
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>>826109
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tracer_ammunition
You realize even in real life sights for machine guns designed for volumes of fire aren't precision, right?
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>>826112
>>826114
You're not even attempting to hide the fact that both these posts are from the same person
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>>826122
wew lad
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>>826122
lol
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>>826112
I certainly have, and the longer the distance the worse irons are and the more useful optics and red dots are
>>826119
You can't stand the superior aiming system? I'm sorry for your bonus chromosome
>>826120
>Everyone is real life just walks the bullets onto the target, dumping a belt worth of ammo in the process
>>826129
>>826127
My mistake, but c'mon, your posts were literally exactly a minute apart
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>>826109
>Optics also offer precision
>precision

Can you clarify what this word means to me, please?
We are still talking about airsoft right?
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>>826136
>>Everyone is real life just walks the bullets onto the target, dumping a belt worth of ammo in the process

Would they be so lucky.
http://jonathanturley.org/2011/01/10/gao-u-s-has-fired-250000-rounds-for-every-insurgent-killed/
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>>826136
>I certainly have, and the longer the distance the worse irons are and the more useful optics and red dots are
That makes no sense seeing that if you zero'd both to X range they'd have the same accuracy. Red dots and optics either make zeroing quicker or magnify your viewing. Both of those in regards to 1 foot groupings at 300 feet and wind are useless in comparison to concentrating more on guiding you shots by looking at the stream when firing full auto.
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>>826136
It's really uncomfortable for me. M60's iron sights are awesome, and I really got used to noticing small movements.
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What model nerf gun are you getting for christmas lads?
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>>826138
To clarify and perhaps precision isn't the right word; in a situation where I'm going to engadge and enemy at range I want to be able to shoot as short a burst as possible to prevent discovery and minimize my noise signature, using an optic thats zero'd allows for a higher likelyhood of a first shot hit and therefore a shorter burst.
>>826144
Due to the high speed nature of airsoft and constant motion its difficult to get a proper sight picture with ironsights, a red dot reduces the time it takes and will allow you to be able to put down accurate fire quickly due to the ease of obtaining sight picture.
>>826153
Get a riser, it'll be more comfortable, M60 irons are also very boxy and obstructive, plenty of room to miss things that you'd see with the better FOV of a red dot
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>>826170
Due to the high speed nature of airsoft and constant motion its difficult to get a proper sight picture with ironsights, a red dot reduces the time it takes and will allow you to be able to put down accurate fire quickly due to the ease of obtaining sight picture.
>Never had the issue of raising my sight picture up quickly outside of CQB. Also in most cases I've never seen an opponent be able to trace my rounds back to me.
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>>826174
They trace your position based on sound, also are you really going to argue red dots are as good as irons? People spend $800 on these things for a reason.
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>>826182
What gun do you use to make that much sound?
Or are you playing inside large structures or god forbid an indoor field?
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>>826183
My gun isn't particularly loud but its loud enough to be able to trace the general direction based on noise and the longer I fire the easier it is to zero my position. How the heck do you find the enemy if they open up on you and you can't immediately see them?
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>>826168
Joke's on you. The thing is, LARP with airsoft guns gains popularity in my country, and several games, based on, say, Fallout or WH40k have nerf guns stand as energy weapons. Of course, you paint and modify the shit out of them, but you get the idea.
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>>826183
It has to be really hard to play airsoft being deaf. Man, you can hear a gearbox at 80m easily. Even easier if you wear comtacs or the like
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>>826183
You just learn to notice that special whrrr guns make really fast.
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>>826168
http://www.amazon.com/Nerf-N-Strike-Blazin-Bow-Blaster/dp/B00DW1JT38/ref=sr_1_13?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1450131966&sr=1-13&keywords=Nerf
I'd love to use this in CQB or up close
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>>826112
Have you ever used a gun that has a good barrel and hopup?
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>>826200
That has nothing to do with sights
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>>826216
You're right, but they do have an impact on the range and accuracy of a gun past 100 feet.
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>>825714
>Not posting this one.
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>>826109
>Precision
>Uses Repro scope/dots

Kek, pic related

>Precision shooting.
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>>826230
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>>826234
I want to do this
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>>825432
It came with the house
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I'm new to airsoft, what's a good CQB gun under 200?
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>>828058
How CQB?
Field CQB I'd suggest ak74u by cyma (CM045)
Indoor CQB I'd suggest a pistol
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>>828058
CYMA CM-45s are usually pretty solid CQB gun choices. Out of the box they shoot hot for CQB though, so you'll need to change out the spring for an M100 or M90. At Evike's current sell price, you'd come in under 200 with a replacement spring, shimming, and regreasing.
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>>828171
>>828181
will the lack of rails be a problem?
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>>828386
Not unless you want to mount a flashlight or an optic. For that, you can get a metal RIS that replaces the handguard for like $40.
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>>828437
what is your opinion on this gun?
http://www.evike.com/products/40044/
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>>828476
>http://www.evike.com/products/40044/
Looks gimmicky as hell; would not touch
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>>828698
opinion on the combat machines?
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>>828476
>>828704
It's a plastic M4 that everyone else starts with? Combat Machines are well regarded, for beginners, but they don't do much better beyond that point. They're also a bit picky with magazines.

If you like the GI-Joe M4 aesthetic, go for it, but the CYMA will hold up better over its lifetime externally and therefore is more worth working on and upgrading as you get better and more experienced.
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>>828704
I never payed too much attention to them. I prefer AKs and I am not interested in guns made of ABS plastic externals. From what I have heard they are 'meh' to 'some-what decent' for beginners but I don't have any personal experience with them.
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>>828386
>>828437
Can attest, its a good gun but shoots about 375 fps with .25s so be warned if your field has limits. Overall an extremely solid gun, stamped steel body, durable as hell and I was able to mount an optic and a flashlight without having to go the rail route. AMA
>>828476
>EBB
Stay away
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>>828746
How difficult was it to remove the orange flash hider and did you remove the inner barrel?
I have a replacement one that I am going to change it with in the mail that should arrive tomorrow.
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>>828723
>>828744
This absolutely, a CYMA AK will run you slightly less, accept just about any AK mag in existence without trouble and outperform a CM by a mile, retailers are having trouble keeping Stamped Metal CYMAs in stock
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>>828746
>>828780

Now that I'm looking at it again...did you just break it off?
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>>828780
Flash hider was a real shitty glue job and was nice cuz don't have to worry about stripping threads or anything, I just took a big old pair of pliers, clamped down and twisted. Just color the now exposed metal tip with marker, you'll never notice.

To disassemble is just like a real AK and is nice and easy unlike TM clones and their bullshit. Set the gun to semi or auto. Lift the dust cover. Remove the button that holds the dust cover down and the spring and charging handle guide rod. Remove the charging handle by moving it all the way to the rear and lifting, if it resists you did it wrong. Now remove the plastic L shaped block the battery normally rests on, then remove the two screws in the hopup which hold it down. Then, take a screwdriver or something and punch out the pin thats right in front of the charging handle, it will only move out one side so try both. Slide the two halves apart and you're done. Sounds long and hard but its simple once you see for yourself.
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>>828802
Basically, just grab it with some pliers and twist until it breaks, its glued so thats the only way. It also doesn't look as bad as the picture, in the pic the light is to the right of the gun creating the silver tip effect, normally you can't tell there was ever an orange tip.
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>>828746
are their any guns with externals/internals that are par with the cyma cm45 but in a more m4/m16 style? same price range aswell.
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>>829196
Same price range? No, for the money CYMA AKs are the best value, period, anyways ARs are for faggots
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>>829196
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>>829196
I guess you could get an A&K M4.
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I'm surprised I haven't seen anyone mention Airsplat's deals on Deep Fire M4s, from what I can find out about them they are high-end guns and they're on sale for under $100.
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Theres an E&L AKS74U going for £190. Think its worth it? Comes with 3 mags and two lipos and looks in fairly good nick.
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>>825156
I agree, Minimum Engagements are bullshit, That is if you all have agreed to an FPS top-out.
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>>825284
Look, walking cancer.
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>>829884
Minimum engagements for 500fps snipers are sensible, minimum engagements for anything else is silly. I'm fine with semi-auto only in close quarters places since no one likes eating 20 bbs.
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I know its pretty far away but I feel like I want to start organising it now.

The UK's National Airsoft Festival is happening again this year from August 28th to the 30th (Thats the bank holiday weekend) in the south of the UK and I want to go. I've been a few times several years ago and its always been a great semi-casual bash but the more people you go with the better it is.

It's a 2(and a bit) day standard woodlands game in a large site with about 1000~1500 people split into three teams, lots of variety on the landscape and plenty of simultanious objectives throughout each day.

Outside of the airsoft there is camping, bars, live music, raffles and prizes, stalls from various vendors and plenty of other stuff to.

More info here: http://www.groundzeroairsoft.com/nae/NAE2015/Main.html

Would anyone else be interested? The more people we can get in a group the bigger pitch we can get. Last time I went we set up two gens, a marquee and a projector and stayed up all night watching war movies.
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http://www.airsplat.com/deepfire-m4-moe-carb-airsoft-gun-black.html

Is this too good to be true? 2/3 off is kinda crazy.
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>>829980
I'd rather buy WE Katana.
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Another pic of me from Sunday
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>>830074
How's the PKM? How manageable is the weight?
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>>829781
If they're really high-end guns they won't be selling for under 100.
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>>830074
You're the gorka poster from last thread right?
Looking good my friend. Where did you buy your gorka from?
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>>830074
What are those knee pads?
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do you guys happen to know if the 10 round short VSS mags fit in SVD pouches
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>>830080
It's about 25 pounds and my back was aching after 7-8 hours of intense games, but with some training I'm sure it will kick the shit out of me less. I barely notice the weight in game when the adrenaline kicks in. As its A&K the trigger contacts can stick so I'm probably going to replace it sometime soon if I can't break it in.
>>830094
I am indeed
Bought my gorka from thesovietrussia but many Russian milsurp retailers have them
My next purchase is going to be an IRT defender once I get my next paycheck or around then.
>>830117
Kneepro contractor kneepads made for welding and construction work. Only pair of kneepads I've ever had that don't sag or move around on me. Everyone that sees them seems to want them from my experience. Only thing is that they're bulkier than most
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>>829973
If I was in Old England instead of New England I'd be down. Sounds like fun. I'll have to experience Brit/Euro airsoft someday though.
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I hate rock-in mags, does any company make an AK or kit for an AK (preferably GBB) where it gives it a proper magwell where I can just shove a mag straight in?
Like a kit for using AR mags or whatever.
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>>830443
Yeah, you even have AK to M4 adapters so you can use M4 mags in your AK
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>>830257
Pretty much the same just with more banter.
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>>830443
They're not that complicated, anon. Just practice for a little bit, and you'll get the hang of it
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Anyone got any /asg/ Patches or patch designs?
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Allright /asg/, who wants to play Squad?
Steam name for those interested:
>[TFP] Sky
If anybody else up we could make a steam group or some shit
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>>830663
make a steam group
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>>830663
Why not Insurgency? Never heard of squad and dropping 40 bucks on it at the moment is a bit hard thanks to Christmas gift spending.
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>>830663
I'd love to, but I just can;t justify £30 on an early-access game that looks like its from last gen.
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>>830670
>>830671
Insurgency works too.
BRB making the group
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>>830675
DESU Squad looks nice.
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>>830445
Alright, any particular brands you can recommend?

>>830613
It's not that I can't do them, it's just that I hate how they feel.
Otherwise I'm fine with paddle releases and junk.
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>>830678
Wouldn't doubt it is but its a bit expensive for this time of year. I just finished my Christmas shopping so I have no money for anything aside from food and utilities.
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>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/asg_plays

I don't know if I did this right.
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>>830663
>>830682
But we already have a skype group, why would we need a steam group? I'd prefer it if our off-the-board cancer was limited to what we have already.
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>>830682
sent ;)
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>>830680
I haven't tested any, but some in /asg/ definitely has one

>>830685
some people doesn't use skype nor want to join
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>>830685
Steam group I feel its ok.
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>>830685
Steam allows us to play military autism simulators more easily
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>>830685
Different things, don't mix up
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>>830687
I'd be happy with a steam group. Everyone in our generation uses steam.
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>>830236
>Kneepro contractor kneepads
Looks Grade A with the classic slav helmet
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>>830682
Put this in the next general
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>>825156
It's fucking Cops & Robbers with cooler toys, not Pro Hockey.
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>>830627
the kommando store sells /k/ patches, I think /pol/ is trying to get them to carry winter chan patches but I havn't heard anything recently about it
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>2015 in the year of our Lord
>not using Origin
ISHYGDDT
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>>830627
I would love to see the TIER 1 SFOD-D DEVGRU TRYHARD finished
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>>830703
>purposely downloading malware
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>>830703
>EA
>EA

>Using Origin ever
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>>830687
>>830689
>>830691
>>830692
It would be far more effective to trade steam accounts here or in the skype group and tag the guys you know as /asg/ airshitters on your friends list. Groups are often out of sight out of mind and don't actually provide to join for games. Trust me, there are HUGE communities of thousands that don't play together and have dead chats, but maintaining the chat is redundant since there's already a skype group.

So of the two things a Steam group could be, it would either be dead and useless, or yet another circlejerk which in worse case scenarios would create drama with the skype circlejerk. It's just not worth the effort from my view.
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>>830703
EA pls go
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>>830712
Just put your contact in it and if somebody likes you you'll have new friends.
Or just add the people in the group.
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>>830712
Except Im not in the skype group because skype is shit.
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Looking for suggestions.
Me and my mate want to do stupid loadouts each skirmish.
We're planning on doing a Lewis and Clark thing but I am having trouble finding a proper rifle. I want an old-fashioned wood hunting style rifle that can be re-purposed to other kits such as WWI soldiers or what-not since they are all quite similar looking rifles. Preferably something that is sub 400 FPS and is bolt action.
Also other costume ideas would be welcome; on the list we have late 1800s high society gentlemen (euphoric), spanish conquistadors, 1920s gangsters, etc.
Pic semi-related
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>>830719
Yeah, trust me, in about five years of managing Steam groups on one level or another, that's not how it works. The chat regulars who like each other will have each other on the friends list, but the mass majority will not. They won't even check the chat.

>>830737
Well that's your issue, ain't it? If you want fellow anons to add you on steam, you can post your steam URL right here and you'll probably get more bros to play with than if you just joined the Steam group.
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>>830744
The gangster idea would be probably the easiest/cheapest of those.
Maybe a cowboy? KTW makes a repeater, and Marushin make older style revolvers.
Other than that, pretty much no one makes older guns.
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>>830744
>>830767
I think anything like a springfield or mosin would work, but I can't find any that are reasonable.

The repeater looks good though
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>>830744
Trenchcoats, I am natural selection shirts and Tec 9s with Marilyn Manson playing from a bluetooth speaker.
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>>830627
>>830705
I still have the original patch i made and the revised/improved version. I would go to mutinyshop to get it done. Does anyone know the guys at weapons grade waifus?
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>>830744
Ktw made flintlock guns for your lewis and clark loadout, a thompson or BAR would be great in 1920s gangster loadout.
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http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/13599-cyma-full-metal-aks-74un-pdw-ris-airsoft-aeg-cqb-rifle-cyma-am040h-DB15.aspx

how does this compare to the CYMA CM045?
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>>830811
It's ugly as sin to start with.
It's part of the 040 series so it should have the same/similar internals/externals.
It'll probably function just about the same.
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>>830806
Alternative latin phrase should be
no homosexuales feces
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>>830811
If you like the tactical accessories then go for it as its one of the 40 series.
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>>830831
would an optic work so far up?
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>>830882
Yeah I've done it before
I usually just put a sight mount on and use the handguard rail system for grips and shit though usually
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>>830443
Spot the retard
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>>830627
>>830806
The problem with the butthurt patch is that it needs to be cleaned up quite a bit. Lines smoothed out and so on.

I made this one for if we ever wanted to open a team page on Mutinyshop. Based it on the C3bu smugface patches, but there's only 7 faces to use for those, and I was planning on getting a special run of the characters for whoever made it out to Rebel Yell 4.

>>830811
Pretty much the same, but you don't get a folding stock. I'd recommend changing the stock out to something more slimline since the battery is under the top cover. Also, less material on the stock means that it'll be a bit more front-heavy than a CM045 with the same front rail, but that is a pretty damn good price. Just make sure to get the spring downgraded if you're bringing it indoors.
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>>830985
How difficult is it to change the stock?
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>>831011
>Pull stock off buffer tube
>Put new stock on buffer tube
>Throw the whole thing away because AKs with buffer tubes make me need chemo
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>>831011
The same way you replace literally every other buffer tube stock. No idea if the buffer tube itself will be milspec or consumer spec or some other spec entirely though. It's just nice to have a slimmer profile on the cheek, especially with face protection.
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>>831019
>>831017
do you think this would fit?
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>>831038
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/71-dboys-airsoft-tactical-m4-style-folding-skeleton-stock.aspx

forgot link
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>>824993
>Skype Group
Why not Discord? Discord is way better for a group of people.
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>>831038
>>831042
I'm going to say no. If you want a skeletonized folder, just get the 045 and install the $40 railed handguard if you want it.
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>>831042
Why not just get an 040 series that has a folding stock?
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>>829781
>airsplat
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>>825284
You must be the kind of guy who attach red dot sights on the lower rail.
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>>831038
Holy shit bud, just buy the standard version!
http://www.airrattle.com/Cyma-CM045-AKS-Airsoft-AEG-p/cm045.htm
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Added an M81 LBV-88 to my "kit" since last time. Also, group shot of my team. We only got together because there was a "prosofter" team in our town, and we wanted to take the piss out of them with cheap guns and equipment.
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I have the same airsoft (gun?) as >>826062
I wonder what I should buy, either a CO2 KJW CZ75 or Upgrading the internals. Could also get some army gear at my local surplus.
I also have the extra rail and a Red Dot, I heard there is no other upgrade I can do about the Stock (it keeps folding) and the grip
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>>831228
CУКA БЛЯДЬ
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>>831255
Being a team of slavshitters is actually pretty great. I'll have to get video sometime.
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>>831268
>>831228
dude are you in RUSHINGG RUSSIANS???
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>>825191
>mouthguard
>TWOPFF ENEMEPHSS LEFFPT SIDE GUIYHS
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>>831278
Well, our battle-cry is "ZA PUTINA, ZA RODINU!", so... yes?
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>>830829
What does that mean anon?
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>>830985
Did you do the taco pouch? Do you know anyone who can smooth the patch up?
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>>831333
No gay shit
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Having trouble upgrading my Agm Mp40 here. Seems that due to the wobble of the gun, there is a weak seal. Anyone know how to fix the wobble of this gun?
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I'm up for using a discord group. It's much less invasive than Skype and you can get to it from anywhere
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>>824993
Where do you folks get your patch velcro (like, just velcro, but in operator colors), custom nametapes, and such?
>>
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>>830744
French or Polish resistance fighter.
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Suggestions for Discord group name?
Currently thinking Sperg Squad, as in /asp/ergers, but I think we can do better. Maybe something as an acronym of /asg/
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>>831393
Why create anther shit?
If now we have a Skype group and Steam one just don't keep creating shit and dividing us.
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>>831415
All I want is a group I can access from anywhere without having to download some shitty client thats several hundred mb, chunks ram, and is probably blocked on school/office networks.

But its something we have to decide as a community. I'd strawpoll it but those are biased and shitty.

Ideally all discussion would happen in the thread rather than externally so it would be kept alive but I know thats not really feasible.
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>>831415
>implying everyone uses skype
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>>831420
I chose Discord because:
>It has a client for all OSs including mobile and a web client.
>Can log in as a guest
>Registering only requires an email address and it isn't even verified
>Supports IRC-like text chat channels and Teamspeak-like VOIP, even in the web client
>IT HAS PUSH TO FUCKING TALK
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>>831420
>>831429
>>831445
Then create it, I'll be happy to join
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>>831445
>>831420
in comparison Skype:
>Requires a big client, available on most OSs
>Requires an account, most people have one.
>Shitty voip quality
>Ads

and Steam:
>Requires a big client, now on mobile though
>Requires an account but everyone has one.
>no saved scrollback or chat history while offline
>Does support accouncements/events
>videogaems
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>>831420
We suggested making a WhatsApp group, but I guess it's not popular among 'mericans (almost everyone uses it in Europe)
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Here it is, lets see if it works, I'm still not 100% on Discord:

#spergsquad chat channel
https://discord.gg/0hrhYH6D1EnJFjbW

Sperg Squad VOIP channel
https://discord.gg/0hrhYH6D1EnkLTuS
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I saw the coolest kit for sale online, a guy was selling a Desert Eagle with (pretty much) all the barrels and slides, for all the calibers (.357, .41, .44, .50, .440, regular barrels and 10" barrels), as well as a bracket for the 10" barrel to mount a MP5 handguard. The laser is supposedly rare too.

Has anyone made a bracket like this for an airshit Deagle? There's long barrels, right?
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>>831484
Jesus christ that looks horrible. Airsoft Deagle brand deagles are bad enogugh.
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>>831478
>everyone uses it in Europe
so as in Asia
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Anyone here tried JeffTron mosfets? They seem to do fairly affordable models for V2 and V3 gearboxes as well as external mosfets for others. Thinking about sticking one on my ICS MP5SD since there is so much room in the front.
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>>831017
To each his own
Buffer tube with a rail system looks pretty good to me
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>>831445
>>831473
>>831475
>>831482
>Samefagging this hard
I have literally never heard of this shit until now. Take your shitty xfire client elsewhere.
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>>831578
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>>831250
Which CZ? The P-09 or the pre-B?
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Have you guys came out to your parents that you're airsofters? What are you getting for christmas?
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>>831590
yes
russian digi flora and a new stock for my M4
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>>831590
Of course. They're happy I do outdoorsy things.
Some nice boots
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>>831336
I didn't make it, but I did make that image, and another anon local to me who actually did make the patch got some made from Mutiny Shop.

>>831590
Yes, and while they support my decisions, they're socially opposed to buying me camo and not rich enough to justify buying me a high-end airsoft gun.
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>>830806
I'm going to try and make an SVG version of this. Any suggestions for TACTICOOL fonts? Currently I'm thinking comic sans
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>>831590
Mum's getting me the KWC M712.
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>>831590
SVD pouches and a wooly hat

but I need to know whether short VSS mags fit in SVD pouches
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>>831590
What're you getting, anon?
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>>831623
Depression and lonelyness (and christmas dinner).
I'm too old for pressies, I gotta buy my own things now.
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>>825273
>>825280
>>825284
>>825289
>>825294

these faggots shit up paintball too, arrogant fags
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>>831630
If there's one thing that brings paintballers and airsofters together, its speedcancer
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>>831632
I dont have a problem with speedball. Just these types of people. Why are they even playing airsoft? They didnt do too good at pb so they decided to feel like big guys shitting up a different game.
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>>831627
are you in the steam group?
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>>831644
Nope, I'm at work so I can't get on Steam. I'm the faggy faggot who started the Discord group though so I'm in there. I'll join up once I head home.
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>>831627
>Depression and lonelyness
still better than a lot of things, trust me
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Crosspost from le shittit but I don't care.
The first 10 seconds of this make me think about wearing a cup.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8QRs4ju_7g
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>>831655
Man that's a lot of editing and post production for a no-name youtuber
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>>831655
I've been shot in the dick, at near point-blank no less. Hurts much less than getting hit in the nuts in other sports like divegrass, handegg, and baseball. And I never wore a cup for any of those sports.
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>>831659
Can't hate a guy for trying. At least it's not just unedited no-music footage from a shaky camera
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>>831660
>divegrass
I'm unfamiliar with this one
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>>831711
Soccer.

I prefer faggotpaddle.
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>>831627
I'm 19 so I'm on the cusp of that. Feelsbadman.
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>>831794
My parents still buy me shit and I'm 23
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>>825284
These guys are from South Florida and they sometimes come up to Combat City in Orlando. They're bad. Really bad.
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>>831798
I feel sorry for americasoft. You either have fatty milsim tacticlords, ex-paintball "trust fund" speedsofters, or codkiddies.

It doesn't really seem like you have the same lad culture that permeates britsoft.
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>>831811
We have a high level of camaraderie here too
There's just so many more American Airsofters so you tend to see the worst the most splattered on the web.
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just bought a titanium sfera helmet lads, only cost $100
did i bag myself a bargain?
>pic related, its the helmet
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>metal slide and frame
>hammer fired
>double stack mags
>GBB
How many of these are there that aren't 1911s or CZ75s?

I looked for a S&W 5906 but all I could find was a shitty spring-gun in black plastic.
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>>832398
M9?
not a metal frame but a SIG 226?
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>>831655
>>831660
I got hit in the tip before and it hurt really fucking bad, felt it probably 3 hours later still and it left a bruise.
Never contemplated actually leaving a round early before that.
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>>831599
>socially opposed to buying me camo and not rich enough to justify buying me a high-end airsoft gun
I don't get this. They have an issue with camouflage, but would buy you a training weapon if they had the money?
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>>831797
My parents' parents still buy them shit.
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>>832523
This. It's fucking Christmas.
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>>832441
What were you wearing? Yoga pants?

>>832500
No, but they'd buy me a piece of sporting equipment if it was reasonable. Hell, they've bought $300 divegrass boots for my brother before. Airsoft has no real professional advancement though, so I can't ask them to dive for an LCT or something. The issue isn't really the camouflage. They've bought me camo shorts when we lived elsewhere, but here in Wisconsin, every inbred, Trump spouting, PBR drinking hick wears some article of camo like it's high fashion. Neither of us would like the associations.

Not that I care too much though. I'm still on the fence if I want to get some slavcamo to wear at events where I can't get away with a Hawaiian shirt and dickies.
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>>832624
Nah, BDUs.
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>>831811
That's just NATO/BLUEFOR players. RUSFOR/OPFOR players generally have more fun.
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>>832523
>>832585
this, its just normal really.
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>>832727
Is this true? It always seemed that way in videos, NATO is always the multicam armchair generals screaming code words and getting buttblasted. OPFOR is always laughing and pulling shit and Allahu Akbar'ing and just having a grand old time.
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>>831306
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>>832585
>>832856
This
Christmas is about giving, not getting
If your parents don't buy you shit then they're assholes
Then again if you have income and don't buy your immediate family shit if you can afford it then you're a bit of an asshole yourself. I spend 200 dollars on my mom, dad and sister every Christmas.
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Right guys. I need help.

How the dickens do you front-wire an ICS MP5? I've got the wires coming out the front of the gearbox but I can't find any way to route them to the front grip without them pinching between the gearbox and the upper when reassembled.
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My imitation EOTech (XPS3) which is normally very good sometimes turns off when shaken hard, any tips on fixing this?
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>>832876
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia8eh7ARghg&index=5&list=FLM3LV0pR2b0874FrtsCbn8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXHKvtiBzPY

Granted, these are both Rushing Russians, but still true.
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>>833023
Drill/file a larger gap
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>>833041
Ha! Thats good, what the heck was the context with the Nessie flag?
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>>833047
Honestly, I have no idea. There's a longer version of the video, but I don't think it explained shit.
Which is good. I think it's better out of context.
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What real AK is the LCK106 based on?
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>>831306
Reminds me of the Spongebob episode.

Also who /IRA/ here?
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>>833063
I did a search for "short barreled aks" and found this list of models. Hope it helps your search.
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>>833071
I'm such a dumbfuck, forgot the link:
http://www.theakforum.net/forums/48-ak-suppressors-sbr-s-full-auto/90064-short-barreled-ak-s.html
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>>833069
T A I G S
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>>831590
Yes. Mom kind of knew I airsofted before I did because I used to hate airshit because /k/ told me to until I tried it. She then surprised me by buying me a JG M16A3 when I was 16 and now I've spent thousands of dollars and hours of manpower on it over the last four years. I'm getting a CYMA AK74, some mags, boots, etc.
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>>833069
Nice bust
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>>833079
>spent thousands of dollars
>just now getting a CYMA and boots
??
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>>832431
>M9
Well I know it'll fit my hands, but I prefer the Browning style tilting barrel. I guess it's worth considering.

>Sig
Never liked modern Sig pistols, the way they look just has zero appeal to me.
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>>833101
My tiny fucking hands.
I need to use an M9
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>>833063
looks like an AKS47U with a 74m stock, waffle mag, poly hand guards and those ugly muzzle devices
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Is there a poorman's version of those noise amplifying ear protection headsets, don't wanna drop $300 on one just for the name.
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>>833109
Yeah, I'm wondering if its based off a real Russian gun
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>>832324
$100 for a legit sphera? where'd you get it? that's ridiculously cheap
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>>833109
>47
Not with a stamped receiver it's not (though 47 was never official Russian designation anyway.)

Technically it'd be some manner of AKMSU, but it's probably some kind of AK-100 series carbine.
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>>833110
Yeah, the ones we use (Z-Tactical) SORDIN and COMTAC are like 60-70$
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>>833023
Right! Finally got it. Turns out I needed to go out the back of the gearbox and around the top. Making a horrible grinding noise now. Need to take it back apart and probably reshim it.

Still, I've managed to get a pretty decent condition gun for £50, apart from the neoprene foam stuck all over the grip and stock and the fact that it is quite obviously a two-tone gun thats been repainted with a brush.
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Anyone have experience with airsoftmegastore customer service?
I ordered a KJW m1911
http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/12643-kjw-hi-capa-kp-05-gbb-co2-m1911-full-metal-pistol-black.aspx
And they sent me a CO2 version with a CO2 mag that I can't use
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>>833085
I've sold and traded some shit off. Folks are getting me a CYMA AK since I don't have an AK right now and want a gun I can loan to new softers.
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>>833063
It's one of those mythical 7.62 krinks with black polymer furniture. The soviets never built 7.62 krinks, but it's rumored that those guys in the kyber pass built some AKMSUs or some shit.

>>833109
>AKS47U
Ain't no such bird.
>Ugly muzzle devices.
I dunno, I always thought bulgarian 3 piece flash hiders were pretty neatl. Kinda wish I had one on my saiga.

>>833125
There were 2 different types of 47's with stamped receivers.
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>>833063
Its an AK bastard child
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>>833164
Yes, there was the initial stamped model of the AK, then the one with the "half" stamped receiver, before it was decided that receivers would be made out of milled steel, due to Soviet factories not being able to create stamped AK receivers properly and consistently at the time (early stamped receivers would sometimes not come out right when they made them, or they were made improperly and would fail in the field).

It was with knowledge gained from captured German factories, and famed Hugo Schmeisser, that the Soviets could advance their technology to consistently make stamped AK receivers to a satisfactory standard.

However, when people talk about AK rifles before the AKM, they typically mean the milled rifles that were issued on the larger scale.
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>>833069
>tfw no AR-18
I really wish a modern company made one, since the JAC one is virtually non existent nowadays.
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>>832324
Are you sure it's a Russian Sphera and not one of the Ukranian versions?
Either way, congrats on looking like you're from spaceballs.
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>>833246
Fuck man, I want an AR-18 too, they're so cool.

>tfw no GBB
>tfw the only AR-18s are plastic AEGs
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>>833246
>>833251
The day an airsoft AR-18 becomes easily available is the day I channel muh heritage into a Provo kit
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I'd settle for a AR-180B model honestly.
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>>833251
Behold, by bbwar grail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iKo-QZTLqE
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>>833256
Looks and sounds kind of plasticy
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>>833251
The craziest thing is that the AR-18 could have become the US military's service rifle had they not spent so much on the AR-15. The AR-18 is cheaper and more reliable if I remember correctly and essentially was the AK of the NATO cartridge world, rivaling that of the FAL.
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>>833268
With the amount of effort put into making the AR-15 good, I honestly think it's ultimately a better service rifle overall than the original AR-18.
If I have to decide between an AR-18 and an M16A1 for a real battle, I'm gonna go for the M16A1.

I just really like the AR-18 for it's simple construction and how it influenced later weapons so much. I like the Australian made Leader T2 rifle for the same reason, it's like an AR-18 made EVEN simpler.
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>>833271
Don't get me wrong the updates to the AR-15 platform outclass the unrefined AR-18, but there was a lot of potential for the AR-18 platform had they developed it.
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>>833142
Where can I get those headphones on the guy in the middle
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij5lSuJxebU

Anyone ever watch this guy? Most of his videos are COD shit but he has some pretty good airsoft pistols only videos, surprising production value for such a small channel
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>>833271
Honestly I'd say the AR18 was superior, its operating system is used in pretty much all the super gucci guns of today, HK416, G36, XM8 ect.
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>>833291
Right off the bat it seems autismal

keked at 3:15 and stopped watching

I'm assuming that's you shilling your channel.
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>>833278
>but there was a lot of potential for the AR-18 platform had they developed it.
See every other current .223 combat rifles

>H&K G36
AR-18 with a plastic body

>FNH F2000
AR-18 with big comfy plastic bullpup body

>Steyr AUG
AR-18 bullpup with a 'leaning' bolt-carrier

>ACR
AR-18 in plastic body, brought to you by Magpul

>SA80/L85
AR-18 bullpup

>Bushmaster M17S
AR-18 bullpup (the K&M variant supposedly having an excellent trigger)

It didn't sell well on it's own, but the concept was fundamentally solid and is a standard way to do a combat rifle today.
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>>833294
>HK416
M16 retrofitted with a short-stroke piston.
Still has the same FCG, receiver and buffer-tube setup.

>XM8
Hardly successful given that it was a prototype derivative of the G36 with proprietary rails and a body that could not handle sustained fire without beginning to show signs of melting.

>G36
Decent rifle.
I think the Steyr AUG and F2000 are better examples of a modern AR-18, I think those are just as good as the AR-15
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>>833324
I heard the Sterling ones were absolute trash, but's more of a conversation for /k/
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>>833101
I think WE makes a HI-power
not 100% sure though
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>>833328
Supposedly they were on the lower end of the spectrum, but the AR-18 is really an AK tier simple design, they weren't disasters, it's hard to fuck up if you have a contemporary production line.

Here's a fun fact, the first prototype for the SA-80 was built from a Sterling made AR-18 rifle.
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>>833329
I have yet to see a Hi-Power that didn't feature the adjustable sights and the ring-hammer.

If there was one that was more like pic related, spur-hammer, Novak sights, black finish, I'd be ALL over that.
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>>833339
Marushin makes (made?) one, but good luck finding one of the metal kit for them.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVDRWIrsUVw
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>>833411
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>>832398
>almost a m9
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>>832398
Finding something that will fit all three of those criteria is going to be a challenge. Not being a gas gun isn't even a question.
KSC makes a 945 (even though it is more or less a 1911), KSC/KWA and WE both make a Makarov (although maks are single stack in real life, WE makes a PMM though so that's kosher for it to have a double stack), WE makes a Bronwing Hi-Power (Tanaka too, but good luck finding one), and if you really must then both Marui and KWC make a Desert Eagle.
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>>833282
eHobbyAsia, hobbyking, ebairsoft...
He told you what they are just google it damnit.
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>>833268
>>833271
>>833324
>>833328
One fucking rule and you cannot follow it?
>>>/k/
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>>833347
Disregard this post, I suck cocks.
Marushin makes a model kit, while Tanaka makes an actual gas gun.
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>>833085
I've spent well over $1k this year only and I'm still buying boneyard guns to fix.

I don't see the problem.
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>>833687
I don't think that is metal slide and frame though.
>Tanaka Works
>Japanese company
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>>833121
no it wasn't
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>>833697
No it is does not and unfortunately it seems that no 3rd party companies ever made metal kits for them.
Damn shame that WE doesn't make a MKIII.
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>>831590
For my 18th birthday I just went and bought an ASG, when I got it home my mom just freaked out. She hates it, but well she now doesn't give a crap if I go airsofting.
>What are you getting for christmas?
Nothing airsoft related for sure, even my girl doesn't dig buying me airshit.
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>>833324
>ar18
>shit sights
>ergonomics non existant
>not modular
I'm glad someone innovated it
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>>832398
>http://airsoft.tiger111hk.com/Airsoft-Guns-SY-Airsoft-Guns/c3_315/p19286/SY-M945-Fish-Scale-Full-Metal-GBB-Pistol(Silver)/product_info.html
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>>833699
That adjustable sight is such a boner killer, for me at least, I know some people love it.
Not saying that old WE toy guns can give me a boner.
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>tfw looking at rare airsoft guns on ebay that I don't have the money for
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FTC-Spectre-M4-Classic-Airsoft-HPA-Falcon-Toy-Company-BV-System-GAS-operate-Rare-/262188904685?hash=item3d0bad30ed:g:wfMAAOSwYHxWPSNf
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Asahi-bushmaster-classic-airsoft-gun-/301824143765?hash=item46461ef195:g:xJkAAOSwcOFWbGxv
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shoei-Japanese-Brand-AirSoft-STG44-MP44-Assault-Rifle-Wood-Stock-Grips-New-Rare-/191740640310?hash=item2ca4a1fc36:g:Q2YAAOxyJ-FRmY3l

Damn shame I don't have $420 for that FTC. That thing has been one of my grails for a while.
Oh well.
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>>832398
I know it's not a metal frame, but did you consider this one?
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>>833716
Well at that point you might as well consider the CZ P09, USP, and HK45.
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>>833716
It's a good gun, it's just to hard to find mags at the moment.
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Bored at work so I decided to vectorize the /asg/ patch. What do you think?

Should be easy to get patches made now, though someone with more patch designing experience should probably go in and clean it up.

Dropbox link to SVG source:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jpsctvrwafml67v/ASGPatch.svg?dl=0
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>>833716
Man I really really love the FN45 tactical but apparently the airsoft version is so garbage. Otherwise I'd get it in a heartbeat.
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>>833796
Nice, next month I'll get a couple made as a test batch. Would be great to make some in green and tan.
>>831599
How the quality on munityshop? Would def rock a burning taco pouch and smug animu patches
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>>833684
Minimal talks about guns, especially seeing that its about a gun anons wanted to be made into an airsoft version is fine
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>>833796
>>833823
Got a quote for £8 each from a UK place with no minimum order, embroidered. I'd like to get a rubber patch too though.
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>>833648
>Beretta Cheetah
Intredasting, and it's a GBB?
What model is it based on, 81, 84?
Is it all metal?
Is there a black one?
If so, are there Pachmayr like grips for it?
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>>833716
I have an M&P 9 so I'm already set on a modern polymer framed service pistol. I'm thinking something slightly old fashioned.

>>833706
Yeah, adjustable sights on a service pistols is awful.
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>>833880
>Old fashioned
Browning hi-power or maybe a t 33? There's not a lot in terms for what you're specifically wanting.
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Is it worth getting the kjw mk1 as a first GBB ? I actually like the looks and it's cheap, since I don't have much money (all spent on christmas)
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>>833950
Get a cheap version of something common.
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>>833950
>GBB
It is not a blow-back pistol.
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>>833951
Like ? I thought this was the to-go noob gas starter.
>>833952
True, my bad
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>>833950
It works fine, trigger is heavy as fuck you'll get tired fast.
The main problem is the power, is too high for a pistol +400fps, but you can get npas valves
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>>833927
I love the Hi-Power, but they all have adjustable sights which just kills it for me.

>TT33
Thought has crossed my mind, but it's single-stack

>>833967
>The main problem is the power, is too high for a pistol +400fps, but you can get npas valves
Depends on his purposes, not everyone skirmishes.
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>>833983
>>833967
I'll be using it as a cheap sidearm, it's true that my airsoft place doesn't accept more than 400 fps
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>>833874
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/pistols-gbb-smgs/we/we-m84-gbb-pistol-black.html

I don't think real-steel grips are easy to find for this pistol, but what do I know. Post a picture if you happen to find a nice one.

>Dodge this.
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>>834010
>.380 double-stack
Good enough for me! The grips work too. And it's an agreeable price.
Does it handle green gas? Or do I have to get something else.

>I don't think real-steel grips are easy to find for this pistol
Yeah they aren't really that popular anymore (though who knows, the .380 cartridge has had a real comeback in the past few years since everyone remembered it's an excellent cartridge for a pocket pistol).

I've always kind of liked the idea of a Beretta 81, because there's SO few double-stack .32 pistols, I think it would be a very pleasurable gun to shoot (though the law doesn't think that's a good enough reason for a gun permit around here, sadly).
I asked if anyone made knockoff Pachmayr grips because Al Pacino had a Beretta 81 with Pachmayr grips (and a silencer) as Tony Montana in Scarface, pic related.
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>https://www.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/2tlcr6/finished_customizing_my_pair_of_we_m84s/
>I remember reading this before

>>834019
The WE one uses green gas.
There are some other brand versions use CO2, but I think they are different animals.

>I'm too young to see Al Pacino's movies so let's cook, bitch.
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>>834105
So this WE brand Beretta 84 pistol the guy linked me will safely use Green Gas without battering itself to death?

Man, this might actually be my ticket.

>I'm too young to see Al Pacino's movies
You should check them out.

Carlito's Way is great, and then there's Heat, where the director paid a LOT of attention to the portrayal of guns, great heist movie.

>so let's cook, bitch
Breaking Bad is pretty nice too though.
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Full kit pic; going to field for the first time Saturday.
Do the sides look too wide? Only place I can put my mag pouches are on my sides until I get a triple pouch for the front.
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>>834136
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>>833147
It seems as though the gun can take both Green Gas and CO2. You seen to have got the CO2 mag (which is strange considering it says that is not included).
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>>833411
kek
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>>834127
>safely use Green Gas without battering itself to death
Yes. I wouldn't worry the overall quality, only one thing comes to mind is it could go full-auto, which is WE M9s are infamous for. Not sure they have similar internals or not.
>>834127
>director paid a LOT of attention to the portrayal of guns
I love those.

Does anyone here love firearms from movies/dramas too?
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>>834136
Those goggles look fucking disgusting bro, no offense.
The kit looks good for a starter, standard but nice.
Good luck out there.
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>>834180
I wear a half mask so they aren't usually as noticeable. They contain prescription lenses so I didn't have too many option; but yea nobody else really likes them.
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>>834194
If you are willing to pay for comfort I recommend getting some ESS glasses, you can get prescription lenses inserts and they are super comfy, the main problem is you'll be paying quite some money for them
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>>834168
I know more about real guns than airsoft, but while the M9 is a locked breech short-recoil pistol, while the Cheetah pistols were unlocked straight-blowback pistols (as is very typical for small caliber pistols).

I've never had my WE M&P slamfire, do WE pistols do this often?

>Does anyone here love firearms from movies/dramas too?
Yeah. Fun tidbit about the Detonics 1911 used in Terminator 2, it was depicted as a .45, but it was actually a 9mm, as .45 guns often had inconsistent reliability with blanks (this was a problem back in the day, but has since been overcome).

Movie guns can be incredibly fascinating. The long-slide with the laser in Terminator 1 had it's laser custom built for the movie by a company that would eventually become Surefire.

The laser was hooked up to a cable running up Arnold's jacket sleeve, and connected to a big battery assembly hidden in his pocket (about the size of a flashlight or so), this was then also connected with a wire to a switch hidden in another pocket, which he would flick to turn the laser on.
This had to be done, because in the 80's, a laser sighting system simply could NOT be made as compact as it was in the movie, it looks big, and it is. You needed a big battery that could light the laser and keep it lit.
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>>834232
For comparison, here's a Colt Trooper .357 revolver which was a special variant designed to have a laser, this was as compact as a handgun with a laser sight could be made in the 80's, they shorted down the grip slightly and made the battery pack the bottom part of the (now noticeably longer) grip.

They also modified the hammer so you could get a grip on it from the side, as the big laser on top would get in your way to reach it from above.

Not all laser sighting systems looked this graceful back then, this was among the slicker ones.
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>>834227
Mine are Revision Military which weren't particularly cheap, they're the most expensive single piece of equipment I own. I looked at ESS when I was buying mine but I (and apparently only myself) prefer the individual eye goggle style
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>>>831590
>Nothing airsoft related for sure, even my girl doesn't dig buying me airshit.

I feel sorry for you comrade
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Does anyone make a sterling?

I kind of want to do a stormtrooper loadout.
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>>834283
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I plan on buying this as my sidearm, what do I need more than the gun to have it running ? Never used GBBs before. How does recharging the gas goes ?
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>>834285
There's a few.
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>>834290
Forgot link It's a KJW CZ75 Gas operated
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/Gas_Pistols_SMGs_KJ_Works_KJ_Works_KP_09_Gas_Version.htm
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>>833823
>How the quality on munityshop?
I'm actually pretty damn happy with it, but since someone actually did a decent job vectorizing the butthurt patch, that might be "better".

>>833859
Honestly dude, Mutiny shop do patches individually at like half that price. Butthurt patch will come out best in PVC methinks though.
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Found this selled by some guy near my home, would it be a good started GBB ?
KWC T92 Taurus PTT99 CO2
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>>833687
The tanaka browning and we browning have no hop up unit
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>>834245
I too have Revision eyewear, I got the Bullet Ant and the Sawfly which is nice since the prescription insert I got for them is interchangable between both. Trying to find a cheap Desert Locust since thats a full set of goggles that'll take the px insert too.
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>>834292
You get it in small bottles like lighter gas. Protip, always keep gas in the mag when storing it otherwise the o-ring will dry out and it'll leak.

Get some silicon oil, if your o-rings are leaking leave them to soak in silicon oil for 24 hours and it'll fix it 9/10 times.
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>>834340
>no hop-up
Doesn't this translate to a gun without rifling? As in, you'll keyhole and throw fliers all the time and the sights are useless?
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>>834366
It mostly means the range will really suck compared to a gun with a hop-up.
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>>834362
How is the Sawfly? Can you wear it to skirmishes or is there too much of a gap?
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>>834368
I had a CO2 revolver without hop-up, one of these. Solid feel, but you NEVER hit what you pointed at, even at close range, it would just not shoot straight, it was like a zipgun.
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>>834370
The gap is there, but its no worse than any other non-wrap around safety glasses. Probably would be fine for woodland.
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Where is the MP5 love?

I'd like to make an airsoft team where it was all just MP5s, G3's and black/blue, almost like a police loadout.
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>>834292
>>834290
Oh, I got one of those! I've actually owned two, the licensed and the unlicensed version. Just got done with removing the plastic tip. A bit of advice: if you're in the US or the EU, it's easier and cheaper to pick up an ASG CZ75. It's the same KJW OEM pistol, but the finish is much better and now that the tip is off, I've noticed it's threaded to accept a suppressor adapter. Not so for the unlicensed version.

As a pistol, I like it quite a bit, but it's not exactly built like a tank. The trigger mechanism is a bit fragile and after a drop in the mud and dirt at a major milsim event, the thing was beyond my ability to repair. The aluminum slide is prone to pend where it secures the rear sight, but that can be fixed with some epoxy. I picked up the ASG licensed version since I could get it cheap. After shipping, getting the KP-09 from Redwolf will cost roughly the same as getting the ASG in the US or Europe (though buy enough mags it'll be cheaper).

One note on the gas is that the pistol doesn't gas up fast. You'll have to hold it in for at least 40 to 60 seconds to not degas the pistol early. It's a CO2-ready pistol, so it should take red gas just fine.
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>>834410
That'd be kind of cool.

Maybe shotguns too.
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Hey so I was going through my old stuff and i found these airfsoft bbs and 1 random mag. What do you guys recommend i do with it. I no longer play airsoft so im unsure. I dont wanna throw it away but i will if there isnt another option
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>>834421
Ebay?

How far away is your local site?
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>>834410
I would too, but there are no good mp5s
>>834421
Throw the BBs away. Is the mag metal? If not, throw it away
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How's the umarex MP5 sportline supposed to be?

I know they sell rebrands, who actually makes the thing? I heard ares, but I dunno if I believe that.
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>>834431
I don't believe anyone makes a bad MP5 apart from the fuckawful ICS Sportline and the really really chinese shit (JG etc.). I stand by my two ICS MP5s as the most reliable stock guns I've got both of them picked up for more than a bargain second/third hand.

>>834420
Yes, MP5s, M870's, Glock 17, black tac-vests (no plate carriers), black helmets/boots, and maybe a riot shield for giggles.
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>>834410
MP5 represent!

>>834431
Shit. It's 100% plastic externally. Absolutely zero redeeming value. Only ones worth money are the prolines, which are OEMed by VFC. They're solid, but with one downside: the magwell is very tight and won't accept the superior steel midcaps on the market.
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>>834431
>>834441
>>834451
from another thread
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>>834453
>>834451
n o i c e
I really need to get a flashlight frontgrip for my MP5A, the one it came with from the twat who sold me it has a thick layer of neoprene stuck to it.
It's comfy I guess, but its fucking ugly.
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>>834430
>no good MP5s
Only if all you buy is chinksoft.
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>>834493
where is proofs
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>>834493
MP5s can be good even if you buy chinksoft. The CYMA CM041 comes with beveled steel gears, a JG blue, and is impeccably balanced. It's also standard V2 and is compatible with G&G external parts.
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Where are the full sized GBB Uzis?
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>>834545
Man you can stop the cyma mp5 shilling.

Price is ok and its still shitty potmetal, which will crack if you play in a hot environment, drop it or bump it somewhere.

On the other hand, their mp5k are godlike.
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>>834653
Cyma Mp5s are fine anon. Their potmetal is pretty good for potmetal.
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>>834653
>play in a hot environment, drop it or bump it somewhere
I've done literally all of that and the only things broken are the charging handle (which is a quick and easy replacement) and the magwell which only cracked a bit after a face-first hard fall on the magazine. I bent it back and soldered it together no problem.

And their MP5ks are exactly the same materials.
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I could buy Inokatsu AK74 for 100€. Are the externals even close as good as E&L or LCT? Can you help me with the decision, fellow /asg/urbers? The internals don't really concern me as I already got bunch of spare parts.

pic related.
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I have a CO2 GBB pistol unloaded, what should I do with the gas tank ? should I leave it there or remove it ?
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>>834599
Not to my knowledge.
Both Tokyo Marui and WELL make electric versions, but they're full plastic. Your only options for GBB Uzis are the KWC Mini Uzi and the Maruzen Micro Uzi.
You might be able to somehow modify a demilled or model gun receiver to fit the internals of a KWC Uzi.
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>>834703
100 Euros for an Inokatsu wounds super sketchy.
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>>834787
12 gram CO2 cartridges have a little seal that is punctured when you first screw down the cap. If you were to unscrew that cap, the pressure difference between inside the canister and the surrounding air would cause all the CO2 to leave the cartridge and possibly even cause the cartridge to fly out of the magazine if you don't "bleed off" the CO2 by unscrewing the cap slowly.
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>>834864
Yea I guessed that with the looks, I googled a bit and people say I can still used unsealed CO2 (still in the mag) for 1 week, is that true?
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>>834869
The main risk you get with leaving CO2 in the magazine is the pressure of the CO2 permanently indents the lip of the capsule on your seal. Now this isn't a problem if you're buying the same CO2 from the same company every time, but if you choose to put in a different brand CO2 capsule in, you'll risk it leaking because it doesn't fit the indent in the seal. The safest way is to bleed the CO2 slowly. This both empties the gas and prevents you from freezing your seal o-rings, potentially causing them to crack and become brittle.
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What should I get to be a more tacticool operator ?
I was planning on getting the lancer Tactical FAST sanic helmet

https://taktikairsoft.com/product/fast-helemt-pj-type-black-ca-740b/

I currently have some Canadian army shirts and chemises plus a paintball mask.
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>>834663
>>834661

It's not good potmetal, mine cracked by looking at it weird.
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>>834869
>>834883
>>834864
Why risk it? Cartridges are 50c/per max
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>>834599
>>834837
Is the hfc one a full sized uzi? I never got see one in person
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>>835278
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no one here doing a canadian impression?

once I'm done with uni and start working that would probably be the kit i'm going for .
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