/asg/ - Airsoft General

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first :^)

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>>809158
Bumpu

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>>809158
Went to Rebel Yell in the much publicized /asg/ trip. Sadly, turnout wasn't as good as it could have been, but it was fun enough to do next year. Hopefully we get some more faggots from here willing to go again to rock the Hawaiian shirts.

>>809179
Nigga, we don't need no bumps here. This is /asp/. We'll be on the front page for a half-day before we get pushed off. A week before page 10.

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>>809186
I know nig. Just wanted an excuse to post that terrible picture.

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What do you guys think of my loadout, any questions or comments?

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>>809252
Sorry for shit tier pics, took em with my phone

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>>809253
I have lots of camos, my favorite is my Asian Tiger Stripe and my field is woodland so it works great. I'm not going for some kind of weird green man loadout, just wanted to see how a solid color everything looked.

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>>809254
Last pic, my current setup is nice, 11 mags can be carried comfortably and with easy access to 5 of them at a time, also have a multitool, dump pouch, very easy access dead rag in the grenade pouch, ect.

>>809252
>>809253
>>809254
>>809255
Generic OD/10
Get someone else to take your pictures next time to avoid that shit. Seems like the camera took a picture of the mirror frame in the foreground so that's why the picture is blurry. It also prevents things like dirty mirrors from being a problem.

>>809255
>11 mags
That seems a bit excessive, unless you're a Cali speedshitter whose finger is never of the trigger.

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Tomorrow will be my first time playing since April 26th, I'm fucking hype.

Kit List:
LBT 6094A in Tan
Source Hydration Carrier
Condor One-Point Sling
Lancer Tactical FAST (Replacing with a MICH in the next few days)

Condor Battle Belt w/ Duty Belt
Eagle Industries M67 Pouch (Holds my dead rag)
Dump Pouch
Thunder B Pouches
Condor Kicker Pouch (Mostly speed loaders, phone, etc.)
KJW P226 w/ Kydex Holster

Condor Kneepad
Mechanix Gloves (Not pictured)
Magnum Desert Boots

>>809275
So pistol only? In that case, drop the plate carrier

>>809275
Oh yeah, and my Prowin pistol mag pouches

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>>809277
Even when I do run pistol only I don't take off my PC. Just doesn't feel right.

Classic Army M249 Para
G&G Gk5C
Dboys M4
JG M4-S
Cyma AKS-74U
ICS MP5
G&P Mk18

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>>809282
>AK5

good pouch for holding thunder B bangers?

>>809284
Mine work fine here >>809275 although on one of them the strap is shorter than it's supposed to be, so it's a very tight fit over the top. Can just look up any sort of smoke grenade pouch or flashbang pouch. Could go for kydex too, I think the GMR store sells them and there's probably countless other places that do too.

>>809284
If you want cheap, Phantom make a good-enough pouch that will hold a thunder b or a tornado. Hold loads of other stuff too. Since I cut down for indoor season, I'm using them as GP pouches for my dead rag and tornado.

>>809282
>>809283
Yeah, how is the AK5C? Never heard much about it

>>809295
I wouldn't know, I got it with a broken charging handle, broken bolt catch, cracked gearbox, and a broken hop up chamber. I'll get it fixed eventually though. I got screwed in a trade but everything with the guy got worked out.

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Where the fuck do I find replacement parts for the Umarex UMP? Do I have to spend $25 on a plastic magazine release and spring from H&K?

>>809386
Yes, because you suck and we hate you. -H&K

realtalk

why should I play airsoft over paintball? I don't know which one to pick, but I'm leaning towards paintball because it's more gamey and seems clearer when you've got a hit, but the longer ranges of airsoft are enticing. convince me that it isn't just LARPing and that I should drop some money on some Canadian Tire springer rifle to try it out

>>809446
Paintball is way more competetive and professional.
Airsoft is generally more relaxed and if you want, has some LARP aspects to it. You can also go full tryhard like in paintball, but don't expect everyone to do the same.

>>809451
>You can also go full tryhard like in paintball, but don't expect everyone to do the same.
You've obviously never seen the hardcore speedqb or milsim scenes.

>>809446
>why should I play airsoft over paintball?
Hurts less. Costs less. Better ergonomics on equipment. Much cleaner, so no paint on your special snowflake rare surplus camo. If your local paintball scene is full of assholes, the airsoft scene might be different since it's usually either/or. You can more accurately dress up like a soldier. Better LARPing opportunities. Greater selection of face and eye protection.

Of course, there's the whole honorsport con, and that's a big one. High-stakes competition is basically impossible due to lack of functional accountability. Plus if your local community is shit, you're not going to have a good time (and that goes for both airsoft and paintball), but otherwise, airsoft has quite a few advantages. The whole cost thing was what got me in.

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>>809462
We have like one or two CQB fields in the capitol area which are rarely used and maybe a handful of milsim events per year in the whole country, so no, not really. The main bit of the hobby, weekend skirmishes, are pretty relaxed though. Sure there can be a milsim group doing their own things or overshooting done by speedsofters every now and then, but for the most part no one takes it too seriously.
A friend of mine who's pretty big in the painball scene says airsoft is like therapy for him. He doesn't have to train five times a week, hold strategy meetings or worry about his health. In common weekend skirmishes he can do whatever the fuck he wants on his own pace and no one is going to be blame him for not completing the objective. If he wants to play fast CQB with people who have good teamwork skills, he's going to play paintball and If he wants to shoot things but with lower stress levels, he's going to play airsoft.
pic somewhat related. That's him yesterday.

>>809446
I used to play paintball, still haven't gotten around to selling my stuff.

What drew me to airsoft was
1) Fuck paying $65 for a case of 2000 paintballs
2) Looks and feels more like using a real gun, which is especially nice if like me you have your airsoft AR set up like your real AR
3) Doesn't ruin clothing so I don't look like an idiot with pink stains on my fancy LBT gear
4) {And this is a big one} The size and coordination of milsim games is something that just doesn't exist in paintball.

>>809252
Michael J Fox/10

Nice OD gear, not so sure about the helmet, but that's just my taste.

>>809252
Ninja turtle/10

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What's next on your to buy list /asg/? Give us some pics.


Mine is a Type 89, not a weeaboo, I just really like the look of it (plus I haven't seen many of them around, and I am a very special snowflake).

>>809252
It looks to me like the helmet sits too high on your head.
What gloves do you use?

>>809599
An Altyn helmet, so I can truly become /slav/.

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>>809599
PP-19-01 but that's coming up behind the computer rebuild and new camo and gear I'm looking to pick up over the next year (Slav camo, Haley D3 rig, various parts etc), so it might be waiting a while.

>>809168
dont some special forces guys actually use something like this now for wider field of vision?

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Alright, got a better picture in my digital flora
>>809257
Never knew that about the mirror frame, thanks
>>809612
My gloves are just cheapo Condor ones but they're nice and thin and grippy and haven't even started to fray after a whole summer of use. My helmet sits a little high because I have a big head cuz I'm 1/4 slav and because my lower facemask straps are underneath it

>>809476
Is the spring A&K SVD-S any good? I'm considering buying one

>>809654
You don't need to bump on /asp/. It's a slow board.

>>809599
Still haven't decided yet. Either a FNC, or an F2000. I love stuff Belgians do but I have no idea which one is better.

>>809599
i'm getting gear before christmas
>condor pistol belt to keep my bdu top tight around my waist/stomach
>thunder B shells
>new pair of goggles
>condor double flashbang pouch

>>809676
I forgot to add

if you ordered anything from Evike or AirsoftGI in the last week and it says
>Scheduled delivery information is not available at this time. Please check back later.
it's because the UPS center in San Bernardino shut down because they found a package going to the shooters' house

and it's why I haven't received my new plate carrier yet

Does anyone have a recomendation gor goggles that fit over large frame glasses? aka the hipster glasses

>>809664
Good luck on buying a fnc or fn200, they're pretty rare here in US.

>>809706
ESS Land Ops. It's what they're made for.

I have been setting up my first plate carrier today and I am running into some concerns. I have a double mag pouch on each of the sides (only place I can put them) and I rest my arms by my sides anymore because of how far they stick out. Is that normal or are the mags too wide?
Second problem is that I can't find a comfortable way to position my gun sling without it getting caught on pouches or being in the way.
Also the only Velcro is on the chest part so I can only use 1 patch.

>>809738
Why can you not have the mag pouches in front? That's where they are meant to go, that's where every plate carrier is designed to have them.

Try a one point sling that you run through your shoulder pads, tends to keep your gun centered and the sling out of the way.

>>809745
There are only 6 inches on the front panel and the pouches require 4 each. It makes the whole thing lopsided if I put one on the front.

>>809754
Which is why basically everybody makes and uses triple mag pouches.

>>809664
My buddy has the G&G fn2000. I would not suggest getting one. Unwieldy piece of shit. very plasticy and the GB is not protected very well.

>>809451
>>809462
should I expect more roleplaying tryhard behaviour out of airsoft, and more gaming tryhard out of paintball? It seems like in airsoft, I'm likelier to get yelled at for not fitting the M I L S I M ~ A E S T H E T I C but won't be bothered about being terrible at the game, while in paintball, I'll get yelled at for sucking shit and being a noob but no one will really care about my gear or style as long as it gets points.

>>809466
gr8 post and quite informative but it raises another question
>High-stakes competition is basically impossible due to lack of functional accountability.
are there tiny paint pellets? I remember hearing about some kind of compacted powder pellet that's supposed to leave marks, but works in airsoft guns.

I don't really care about high stakes, but it does worry me that cheating seems so easy.

>>809482
> Looks and feels more like using a real gun,
This is something I'm drawn to a lot, paintball markers do look dumb as fuck and seemingly are all based on the same pattern.

Thanks m8s, I think I'll go with airsoft and see if I can find any bros to play with. The barrier to entry seems a lot lower and I'm poor as fuck and want something I could also target shoot with by myself, so airsoft seems better suited than paintball for me

Last question, would it be mad horrid to take a low-powered BB gun like a Slavia 618 to a game? I'm talking sub-400fps

>>809599
I'd love to get a PSG-1, but am not keen on the TM one. So the only thing on my list doesn't yet exist.

>>809768
Nobody gives a shit about your gear in airsoft. Especially not enough to get mad at you about it.

>>809768
>BB gun
Absolutely unacceptable.

>>809768
the powder BB's exist but are not used because they tend to jam up the guns

>>809679
Fuck no, please.

Got an order from Airsplat I wanted to get next week.

>>809599
Already bought the Type 97 and a Sig550.

Next would be a Real Sword SVD if I can.

>>809649
No, stop considering springer rifles, its the same god damn fucking story everytime.

NOT GOOD TILL YOU FUCKING DROP MONEY INTO IT.

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>>809851
>Type 97
>Sig 550
>Real Sword SVD
That is some top hat taste.

I was thinking of getting the CYMA SVD one with polymer furniture and just slapping in some RS parts. But I'd only really be doing it for the looks, I'm not convinced by DMRs in airsoft, and length seems to be unwieldy.

>>809865
I like the Cyma SVD, but I have been in love with the RS SVD since the day I learned about airsoft.

>>809599
Either a Scorpion Evo or some sort of Spetsnaz

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>>809158
>What milsim events done by major companies have you been to? Border War? Broken Home? Op Irene?
Sadly none, only a few in the country

>>809599
Thank you for your order 411---.
Please be advised that the processing an order 411--- will be started after the payment.
Delivery cost: 0.00€
Total cost: 104.16€
Just some shit to build yet another AK

>>809599
either a tippmann or krytac LMG

>>809853
Doesn't A&K make an AEG SVD now?

>>809964
Evike reviews say its shit

>>810033
I don't trust a man name tyler.. also the other reviews had good things about it

>>810033
It's A&K

>>809768
>are there tiny paint pellets?
Paint pellets blow up in barrels due to the pressure and gums up the barrel, and when that paint gets sucked back into the cylinder, it gums everything up internally. Powder pellets do the same thing. Cheating is "easy" in that any asshole can shrug hits, but habitual cheaters are easy to catch eventually, and a good community and field staff will deal with it harshly. It's just that if an entire game with a $100k prize money comes down to one called hit, you're going to find quite a bit of problems. When the only thing on the line is worthless bragging rights, folks tend to take things less seriously and are willing to take a loss, because usually when you get hit, you put yourself in a situation where you could get hit, or someone outmaneuvered you through their own skills.

So unless your scene is shitty and cheaters are enabled, don't worry about it. You airsoft for fun, everyone else is doing the same.

>>810033
I mean these people are the same ones that don't know if an ACOG will fit on an M4.

>>809707
Isn't the only FNC discontinued?

>>809649
The CYMA AEG is better. Based on the Real Sword while the A&K is based on the incorrectly proportioned King Arms.

>>810146
Which is in turn based on the Classic Army.

>>809707
FN2ks are actually fairly easy to get. They actually even restocked them on Evike this month.

>>810138
It's not. G&G still make it. Theoretically, Ares makes one too, but who knows these days. The difference is that Cybergun are shit and the FNC is currently in some sort of licensing limbo. You can still import them though. Standard stock G&Gs don't come with the FN trades so I can't see customs having much of a fit.

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What do you think of my stripped-down set up? I was going for a combo of Naked Snake and an IRA Soldier.

>>810170
I like it
Its simple

>>809964
He literally mentions >Spring SVD

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>>810188
Disregard that post then, I suck cocks

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>>810196

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>>810200

>>809707
Well, I know a local shop which has one or two FNCs lying around for a year or so. F2000 are not that rare here, because no one buys those.
>>809766
Huh. Okay, I'll keep that in mind.
>>809783
Unless you're in Russia. Central part of Russia, anyway.

>>810154
Link? Everywhere I look says discontinued.

Ordered a WE G19 from China the orange tip that came on it was a shitty piece of orange plastic tape. Ripped that shit off, gonna just paint the tip of the barrel. Is there a specific type of paint I should use?
Also, is it bad if the orange tip is just BARELY visible, since the barrel barely extends passed the slide?

>>810221
>Having an orange tip at all

>>810222
Some arenas require it.
Also, since I have a real Glock 19, probably not a bad idea to have a clear visual indicator of which is which.

>>810225
What shithole do you live in?

>>810231
I live in USA dude, Georgia. I prefer playing indoor arenas instead of woods, and some places require tips.
Besides, it's a pretty good idea to be able to tell apart real steal and airsoft at a glance.

>>810220
ehobby of course. It's just not listed as an FNC. I said import, mind you.
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-g-taiwan/gandg-gf76-aeg-long.html

>>810233
Until some faggot paints the tip of his real steel orange.

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>>810225
>Some arenas require it.

>>810234
Cool, thanks. Are they good guns? Anyone have experience, only problem I've heard of is that the stock sometimes fails

Is there anywhere in the US to buy a knockoff EOTech?

>>810321
dragonredairsoft, but the quality looks dodgy from what I've heard about cheap-shit EOTechs

AIM-O is a company that makes good knockoff EOTechs and ACOGs

>>810327
All sold out, anywhere else?

>>810255
I would assume so. They're G&G top tech guns. Externally they're some of the best airsoft grade out there, and internally they're more than serviceable with a V2 gearbox.

>>810350
Yeah, really liking what I'm seeing, I'm thinking a T1 knockoff for an optic because its small and unobtrusive and would keep the look overall the same

>>810341
Try toys r us

Anyone have any experience with LCT airsofts? My friend has a "broken" one i can buy for $50. The engine works but it grinds on the first gear, doesn't make full contact

>>810388
Buy it now BUY IT NOW BUY IT NOW

LCTs are basically the best AK externals you can get and usually run $350-$400.

>>809599
I'm going to get an AR as my 2016 project, yay.

>>810388
Ensure it is LCT and doesn't have any other broken shit and buy it

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>>809599
More ALICE gear and maybe a m16a1 0r a3

>>809738
Ditch the plate carrier, get a belt.

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Hey /asp/, I'm thinking of getting into airsoft and I need to know what battery + charger goes well with a CYMA AKM? (CM-048M)

According to e-hobby Asia, the 048M uses a "Mini / Handguard (Nickel / Li-Po)" battery. The pastebin doesn't have anything about batteries, and the guides from Airsoft GI is confusing since I don't have the "gun" yet to get an idea of what is going on.

Also, I want a few mid-cap magazines to go with my gun, would a CM-MG-16-C71 be acceptable? I got a few hi-cap mags from a friend, so I want some mid-caps to use every once and awhile.

What's the Airsoft community like in the UK?
Specifically the north?

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>>810507
Same. Right now I only have two mag pouches and two canteens and it feels sparse as fuck. I'm planning on getting a buttpack, an E-tool with the plastic case, a pair of SDWGs, an angle flashlight, and possibly a PASGT for when I'm not doing super duper speshul forces scud hunter.

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>>810542
Cymas shoot hot out the box, they need powerful batteries. The buttstock has plenty of space, pretty much any battery with a mini Tamiya will do. Quite a few people are using LiPo's instead of Nimhs these days, because they simply are better, so read up on those, they need their own balancer chargers. Go lower volts and high mAh, so you don't break your shit. All the ones I would recommend are out of stock on ehobbyasia, so good luck with your search.
Magazines for AK's are very much interchangeable, shouldn't be worries there.

>>810542
The CM048 is an amazing AK for starters. The battery and charger are included so you wouldn't need to buy them. I am running all my AK with a 7.4v LiPo and I've had no problems.
Where are you based? As >>810552 says they shoot too hot (~420FPS) for most European fields; but some AK are picky with mags. I have 3 and not all of them can share the same mags.


>>810548
Apparently it's good up there. I'm not from there but all the videos and events suggest it's cool

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>>810551
Muh old school nigguh. ALICE IFAK box on your back, you needs it.

>>810548
>What's the Airsoft community like in the UK?
Generally pretty good, expect to pay around £20-25 to attend skirmishes if you're not a member of the field. Also be prepared for Top Gear tier humour/sensibilities, this is either a good or bad thing depending on personal taste.

I was in Leeds for uni, went to a few different sites, all fairly good. Northerners are pretty no-nonsense. No complaints from me.

>>810560
I was knew that I was forgetting something.
I might also replace the compass pouch on my left shoulder strap with an empty decon container.

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>>810552
Thank you!

>>810559
UAE. Airsoft is a very small hobby here compared to R/C shit, around 95% of airsoft players are expats. Laws are very tight regarding airsoft compared to paintball hence the low number of players and interest.
Importing guns is impossible unless ordered through the only verified club in the country, which orders all special requests once a year. Otherwise, I would have to stick to cheap chinese crap usually on stock that even the shopkeeper recommend against.

>>810574
Wow I didn't even know that you could bbwar in the UAE.

>>810574
>>810577
I was thinking the same thing...

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Just bough this from my friend, full metal, lipo ready, wires don't pinch.

Only problem is it refuses to fire, and doesn't have a barrel, easy fixes though.

This is going to sound really dumb but I would like an answer. I bought a knockoff EO TECH and I was wondering if it is good to use. Because according to my understanding the real models work by shooting the beam at the eye but the lens prevents damage to your retinas, will a knockoff work the same way or am I risking fucking up my eyes?

>>810682
It's probably a red dot that only looks like an EO Tech so it doesn't even work the same way.

>>810542
Suitable battery with suitable, although a shitty connector
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__37844__Turnigy_nano_tech_1200mAh_2S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack.html
Similar battery with a decent connector
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__67731__Turnigy_nano_tech_1200mAh_2S_25_50C_Lipo_AIRSOFT_Pack_T_Connector_.html

Cheap, but supposedly okay charger
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__58315__Turnigy_P405_Dual_Input_AC_DC_45W_Digital_Balancing_Charger_.html
Good charger
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__58285__IMAX_B6AC_V2_Professional_Balance_Charger_Discharger.html
You need this thing if you want to keep the shitty tamiya connectors.
http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__47129__Tamiya_and_T_Connector_Multi_Charge_Plug_Adapter.html

Go with Cyma midcaps. They're cheap and the performance is topnotch. They feed perfectly even with guns that have riddiculous rate of fire.

>>810552
Newer Cymas should have very high torque and therefor very energy efficient neodymium motors. Unless the gun is shimmed like shit, it shouldn't draw too many amps.

>>810559
Batteries included with chink guns are historically trash if not dangerous. I would stay away from them especially since good quality LiPo-batteries are dirt cheap nowadays. I also wouldn't count all of Europe as one as the rules vary by country and field. Generally the velocity rules in the outdoor fields are around 420FPS for full auto and 500FPS for semi auto. I know that at least Britbongs have bit lower FPS limits but in Berget for an example, machineguns are allowed to shoot 460FPS full auto. Chinks are also notorious for their poor QC as their guns can shoot almost anything between 350 and 450FPS, but usually around 400FPS.

>>810682
lolnope

Anyone know how hard it is to rewire an M4 that is built for batteries in the back to a front peq box?

>>810830
It's a fucking nightmare.

>>810830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zNdw4DaUM8

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>>810225
>tfw living in NJ

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what's this weird combat tactical shirt he's wearing?

>>810862
its a underarmor football shirt

I've got a multicam black combat shirt and I only play field. Did I waste my money?

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>>810900
Yes. As a field player I can confirm that fuckers who wear black stand out as badly as UCP wearers.

>>810900
Multicam black is shit camo thats designed to give cops a powertrip, look it up

>>810917
Even over a tan carrier? I used to do black under armor with khakis to do a PMC look.

>>810871
Anyone got a link to that specific one?

What should I get, the short FNC or the long one?
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/aeg/g-g-taiwan/gandg-gf76-aeg-long.html#.VmUSLnarRD8

http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/gandg-gf76-aeg-short.html#.VmUUHXarRD8

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>>809599
Tactical Kilt because feck pants

>>810942
Depends. I'd get the long version unless you're willing to put out for a full-on Heat kit.

>>810942
I prefer the look of the long one, but the short one might be more practical.

>>810955
>>810950
I love Heat but I don't have anything for a cop loadout, I really like carbines though, my AKS-74u is my favorite gun

>>810935
look at a sporting gods store
they're bound to have it

>>809252
>helmet
>ever

>>811612
>not wearing a helmet
get a load of this pleb

>>811612
FAST helmet was one of the best things I got.

>>810698
> I also wouldn't count all of Europe as one as the rules vary by country and field. Generally the velocity rules in the outdoor fields are around 420FPS for full auto and 500FPS for semi auto.
No, most European fields (UK, Germany, France, Spain, Portugal...) are 350 FPS for semi&auto, 400 for support (except some retarded countries like Germany where FA is under ~1J), 450 for dmr and 550 for bolt action.

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>>811056
>sporting gods

>>811612
I'm this guy >>809635
Lets just say I'd probably have a whole lot of scars and cracks in my head without that helmet

>>811612
My Stahlhelm is one of the best pieces of my gear.

I want an FNC but only Ehobbyasia sells it for a reasonable price and their shipping is $90, thats insane! Is there anywhere that also sell the G&G FNC for around $300 or is there a way to get some snail mail shipping that won't break the bank?

>>812324
Got pics of you in master race clothing?

>>809446
Paintball is more like "sports", just running around and shooting each other.

Airsoft is more using strategy and stealth generally.

Not saying one takes more skill or is better or whatever, that's just generally how it works. People that play paintball want to rush in and shoot stuff, people that play airsoft want to organize tactics and accomplish objectives and win. (and yes, even the "we play for fun, not to win" airsoft groups focus on winning, they just don't admit it)

>>813472
Have you ever played paintball?

>>812884
There wouldn't be any way to get an FNC for around 300 in the states short of second-hand. Pretty much every store will sell it to you for 390+ as it were.

>>813522
Thing is I don't think there even are any that sell in the states

>>813536
They used to, but if you look at the stores that still have them listed, or have the AK5D in stock, (which is literally the FNC with the Swedish furniture and fire selector) you'll typically see $395 or more.

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/11884-g-g-armament-full-metal-gf85-s-ak-5-airsoft-aeg-rifle-tgf-f85-bnb-ncm.aspx

>>813557
Oh, huh. Too bad that one isn't even the good Swede model though with the green furniture and full length barrel, and whats different about the Swede selector?

>>810862
Sexy sexy Zenitco handguard

Lets get some budgetsoft loadouts, including all the wearable gear.

I'll always shout about the G&G CM series being the kings of budgetsoft.

>>813747
Budget?
Yeah G&G CMs are the kings and the kings of shit. All airsoft stores are sponsored by G&G so guess why there are so many CMs arround.
They are a lottery, you might get a lemon or a fine shooter but for the money I wouldn't risk, just get any other brand.

>>813747
CYMA CM045 - $120
7 plum CYMA midcaps - $70
Chicom surplus chest rig - $15
Valken MI-5 facemask - $23
Fingerless leather gloves - $7
Total cost - $235

Wear Adidas tracksuit and Sambas for maximum Cheeki Breeki.

>>813751
That's funny, you're funny.

In a slightly related budget note, has anyone ever tried these? I want to get something black for the CQB sites nearby but I don't want to invest a huge amount in something I might not use much.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/131169423584?var=430386968202

>>813756
Dude what's your budget
About the belt and suspenders, for general airsoft use it's ok, the problem is the belt buckle, too flimsy and can open, also straps everywhere.
I had one of those until I upgraded to an Emerson belt and way better and comfier without breaking the bank.

And for real don't go with a Combat Machine.

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>>809158
I've been to all of MSW's games except for ROR and AOD. God I love blank fire. Anyone been to AMS games?

>>813763
It's hard to get a lot of tactical stuff in the UK compared to the US due to a lack of gun culture, so I sort of have to go with what I can get.

As long as it lasts at least one skirmish I'll use it to consider getting a more expensive belt, maybe a Warrior belt or something.

Also there is nothing wrong with the G&G CM and GR lines, they've put solid GR internals inside a decent plastic case for next to fuck all moolah.

>>813770
Surplus stores, man. If you want cheap quality shit on a belt, get a webbing kit. Varusteleka still has NVA rigs in stock for 16 quid.

>>813775
Only ever see webbing in surplus stores in CS95 colours. I'm really after something black. If they do have black stuff it tends to just be Viper trash and exorberant prices.

>>813770
Buy online. And a shit is hard, you have one of the largest online stores in UK, military1st.co.uk
If you want to get that shit get it, but then don't come asking what we think then you are doing the shit you want.
I'm telling you because I had many mates with CMs that were pieces of crap that went back to the store and few that worked well out of the box.

>>813764
Never been to a MSW game
Looks like fun

For a PMC look should I wear standard khakis or are there companies who make more rugged khaki looking tacticool pants?

>>814072
Helikon or 5.11 Tactical do good tactical khakis with kneepads, etc.

>>814072
There are loads of extra rugged khakis out there, man. Dungarees: double fronted, cargo pocketed, ripstop, a good pair of dickies are cheaper and just as functional as a pair of 5.11 tactical pants.

>>813764
How does blank fire work in games? It doesn't hit anyone with anything, whats the point and benefit?

>>814243
They don't allow blanks in any of our games (or at least they were just for immersion).
I'd never call a hit if they're shooting at me with blanks

>>814243
At MSW its for immersion mostly. If you get caught in the open you are encouraged to take a hit but not required.

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>>810233
Sweet didn't know of any other Georgians who browsed /asg/

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anyone here know anything about the ICS G33?

thinking about purchasing one pretty soon.

I wanted to get a second opinion.

http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/11370-ics-g33-series-r36-ras-airsoft-gun-assault-rifle-aeg-black-ics-233.aspx

>>814416
I almost puked all over my room. As if the regular G36 wasn't ugly enough they've decided to make an even uglier version

So what's some of the cheapest multicam I can get to use when it's required for events?

>>814427
I guess everyone has there own opinion. I ran a g36 for 3 years. Honestly I think its a nice modern twist on the standard g36

>>814506
what's your price range?

>>814524
Well I spent $70 on my DESPAT, I'd like to keep it around there or less considering that I'll basically only use Multicam a couple times a year when milsims force me to.

>>814531
Propper makes some in the 40-50 dollar price range.

http://www.amazon.com/Propper-Mens-MultiCam-Large-Regular/dp/B001EJ5HOA/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1449615606&sr=8-3&keywords=multicam

>>810551
Buy a lbv loads of additional pouches and you could be super duper scud hunter

>>809599
An AR-18, GBB, metal body.
Nobody makes one though.

Like, I could settle for a AR-180B with a top rail and AR magwell (I'd welcome it), but there just isn't any. I've only seen plastic AEGs

Also, I don't think there's anyone making a regular size Uzi which is a metal GBB, which strikes me as odd, as it seems so obvious.

>>814531
Look for used OCP uniforms on Ebay. I got a Med Long OCP ACU set for $35.

>>814531
I personally use All Terrain Tiger because its slightly unique but still multicam and people will be ok with its use on a multicam team, got my set for about $150 brand new Propper/Truspec

Either got it from MilitaryClothing or MilitaryUniformSupply, can't remember which

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check it out lads

Got a double eagle UMP45 for 90 bucks, what should I expect?

>>814765
crap

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>>809158
WHY PLAY AIRSOFT??? PPFFT SOCCER IS WHERE IT'S AT

>>814767
Why the negative opinion? I've heard good things about it.

>>814778
simple, it's not FOOTBALL that's why

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>>814778
>he paid $90 for a plastic lpeg that will break in five minutes

>>814765
Its a clone of the G&G UMG and it's a pretty good for a DE gun. I think you'll find the DE M89 to be a good beginner gun.

>>814783
The DE UMP has a V3 gearbox. These models are actually good for how much they cost. Just avoid the HK slap, its a cheap chinese clone so you can't really expect the pot metal to be anything besides shit.

>>814783
The ump has a metal gearbox retard
>>814788
Thanks for the info, I'm actually receiving it in a trade for my AGM MP40, I think it's a good trade, the ump's from double eagle are discontinued

>>814794
>The ump has a metal gearbox retard
>>814793
>The DE UMP has a V3 gearbox.
my mistake

no worries

Whats the general opinion on ICS? They have a few cool guns that are rarer designs and aren't insanely priced

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>>814795
Damn right. your mistake not to play football

>>813057
I do, just gotta edit my face out.

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>>813057
>>814827
Here ya go, and a pic of my gear. I was building a DAK kit first but then decided on a Panzer Grenadier impression instead.

>>814821
See
>>814416

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>>814869

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>>814889

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>>814889
>>814890

Nein/Nein would heil. I'd have pictures of my late-war Heer look, but I haven't gone since June. I only have a picture I took last year.

>>814890
>>814889
You are the chemo to the Multiglam cancer

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>been out of airsoft for almost a year
>want to go to the MSW op in march
How to prepare? What do I need? Do people actually use their radios and stuff?

>>814966
Danke, ya the whole modern tacticool thing puts me off, but hey to each their own.. Sorry about the last pic being sideways.

>>814941
S'all good, probably better then mine. I'd like to take mine out to reenactments but I still have a way to go. Though for the game a AGM STG and a PPS k98 are my goals. By the way did you upgrade your Mp 40?

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Why is there an AirSawft general in my /alphaspee/ and not on /toy/?

>>814969
>Do people actually use their radios and stuff?
Yes. In fact, they get on your ass if you blow off platoon communications. As for what to bring and how to prepare, check the tascop and the video they post at the end of their FAQ. I'll save you the trouble of having to look for it on their poorly conceived site.
Tascop: http://static1.squarespace.com/static/50e53176e4b0837383d71516/t/5629cde5e4b01720bea6e93f/1445580261404/MSW+TACSOP+v.3.2.pdf

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdti_sbsy3w

>>815036
wew lad

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>>814889
>>814890
Mein nigger.

I've got a late war heer loadout that I take out with the MP40 for removing burgers/crumpet, and a British paratrooper outfit for when I'm not wearing that.

Pic related, it's me and my bro manning an MG42.

>>814969
Do you have a team to play with? Because going alone is shitty. You will need some basic stuff: Water, extra clothes, radio, food and an extra gun just in case.
Radios are essential, not because >muh operator but because you might need them in case of emergency, because shit usually happens.

>>815036
Because we are an Alternative Sport you newfag, we've been here for a long time.

Does any manufacturer make heatshields for airshit shotguns?
I have a medium length G&P 870 that I want to put one on. Doesn't have to be metal, I'd be fine with plastic.

Also, are there any good ways of mounting a laser to one that doesn't involve a top-rail? Like, does anyone make one which fits in place of a magazine-tube extension, under the barrel?

>>815036
Because /toy/ are such anti-gun cucs that they turn aggressive at the idea of toy guns.

>>815224
Build it your own if you don't find any, it's just sheet metal with holes.
An alternative would be buying a cheap chink shotgun and removing the heat shield that comes with it.
>http://www.taiwangun.com/en/air-shotguns/shotgun-short-003-agm?from=listing&campaign-id=19

Do you guys think tippmann will expand their gbbr lineup with different guns like a mp5 or lmgs?

>>815241
Who the fuck knows.

>>815241
Maybe slowly, I guess that Tippmann being an American company actually has to obey the law and not just ride roughshod over other companies' IP. So any replicas of real weapons would most likely have to be licensed.

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How do you guys store your stuff?

>>815300
Spread evenly over my entire room

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>>815315
This, but apartment

>>815300
>store
there is no such thing as store. So I'm in the >>815315 club

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Any eurofags interested in the miniature ''Finnish Berget''
>48hrs
>Up to 600 players
>Rules copied from Berget
>Held on military training grounds

http://parola.ehasa.org/

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Whats the brightest, cheapest flashlight you can get that'll fit in a regular weapon light mount?

Pressure switch is pretty mandatory too, bonus if it's zoomable or has a strobe mode.

>>815334
We're interested, but we're kinda afraid of shipping our stuff, etc.
Do you have a website in English?

>>815334
>>815340
Nevermind, I see you have a PDF in English linked in big bold letters

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>>815334
Hell yeah, summer can't come fast enough.

>>815334
Seems bretty good.
It'd have to go on the list of shit I wanna do though as I won't be able to hang around after Berget.

>>815340
http://gallery.ehasa.org/Airsoft/Kuvat/2015/4th-of-July-4--5-7 Some pictures from the same game area last summer, by the same organizers

>>815359
Yeah, I've looked around the site and found them linked on the PDF. Are you with the org? Do you know if there is a mailing service like the one in Berget to send equipment, etc.?

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>>815363
Sorry, not with the organizers, but they're OK people. I'm just shilling, shit like this hasn't happened in Finland on this scale, like ever.

>>815367
What the fuck is wrong with you and holsters?

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>>815375
These threads don't ever have too many pictures. Everybody loves gear.

>>815335
Eagletac G25C2, can be had for around $120, pressure switch is another $15.
Rated to 1000+ lumens and it has a strobe mode

>>815238
I don't have the tools or knowhow to work metal (though it is indeed a very simple lenght of stamped sheet metal), but I guess it's worth considering prying one off a cheapo gun.

You'd think at least one manufacturer would put out heatshields, even if just cheap plastic ones. I wanted a vertical pumpgrip like Duke Nukem has, and that was easier said than done, G&P makes the part, but they don't send parts out to order.
I finally found one site with shoddy English that had them in stock, arrived with an invoice saying it was "model toy car parts". I mean, the grip was in there, but the fuck was with the invoice?

>>815683
That's for customs.

My shit always turns up marked as toy parts.

>>815145
Noice, always good to know someone to trust crew weapons.Your uniform, is that HBT? Also Is that the AGM MG42, been thinking about nabbing that as well, or finishing my DAK kit. Was thinking of doing an english kit but the arms are pretty limited to do so.

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>>815379
Ugh...that black bianchi m12 holster you're making my 80s/90s nostalgia boner hard

>>815987
jungle boots masterrace

>>814984
I've put a tightbore in it, but you'll need to dremel the hop up unit in order to pull out the shitty brass barrel. I've got a JG Blue, ZCI gears, Nukefet, and r-hopped ZCI barrel waiting to be placed in it.

I've done more work on the StG since it's my favorite (same treatment that the MP40 will be getting).

For the Kar98, I suggest finding some boneyard Dboys one and a VSR-10/JG-BAR 10 to cut up and place inside. That's what I've done.

Got a crapload of links I've bookmarked if you want them.

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Hey guys, you like my new Famas?

>>816277
>type 97
Where and how mother fucker
12/10 just on rarity alone

>>816081
Nice, did kinda the same with the Mp40 other then the barrel and hop up. Got a new barrel and hopup, but this hop up is having feeding issues, bought a new one just incase.

I've heard of these K98 conversions. Looks like a good idea, but haven't found a good guide yet. If its not to much trouble, ya I'd like to see those links.

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>>816284

>>814243
Blank fire guys usually roll with tags or an airsoft sidearm. If you hear blank fire, rifle grenades will sometimes follow. Utterly terrifying

>>814969
>>815039
>>815175
Radios are only required for TL/SL/PL, grunts don't need them. At BFC there was a pirate radio station :^)

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>>815943
Yeah, my brother's in wools and I'm in HBTs. I'd originally intended to keep it on a budget because of the money and time I'd spent on my paratrooper gear, but that didn't last long. The MG is an AGM, but it wasn't ours - the site owner let us use it for the day because master race and all that. Really nice gun, but heavy with lots of pot metal. I'd be afraid to use it outside of static defence games in case I went arse over tit and broke it in half.

British weapons are sadly lacking (as they were in real life, hohoho). No-one does a decent, affordable Lee-Enfield, and Brens are nonexistent unless you're willing to settle for a 'close enough' Zb.26. AGM do a really nice Sten which, despite looking like a mangled robot cock, handles beautifully. I actually had my Sten mocked up to look like an Arnhem era Mk.IV (picture is related).

>>816410
That's stupid.
Just wait to get lost at night on a 16km2 forest and see if radios are essential or not.
Or lose part of your squad and then pray to meet at HQ again.

>>816416
>Brens are nonexistent unless you're willing to settle for a 'close enough' Zb.26
Basically the same thing, just different cartridge and magazines

Now, I know way more about 'real steel' than airsoft, but given that everything (that matters) shoots the same 6mm plastic pellets, could one not make a .303 looking curved 30rd mag for the Zb.26 so that it looks like a BREN?

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>nobody makes an AUG A3 GBB
>nobody makes a GBB for any model of the AUG
What's up with that? You'd think Die Hard, Counter-Strike and a million Calladoodys would make it popular enough with kids that at least the classic model would exist as a one. Or do the kids not give a shit about GBBs and it's all about the AEGs?

>>816453
They're not essential for grunts. You're stupid for not having reading comprehension. Each Squad is required to have three radios.

>>816461
I'm sure WE will do one eventually. They're pretty decent on their own, but once RA tech makes the reinforced parts, that's when shit will finally get real.

I have a legit question.

For those of you that roll out to OPs with guns other than ARs and AKs where the FUCK do you faggots go?

I always see some meme-lord going on about his snow flake meme gun at STARTEX but by the time ENDEX rolls around yall niggas disappear like that vape smoke from that dildo you suck on the replace your boyfriend's dick.

>>816461
>>816497
There's rumors that GHK are looking at making one with Hephaestus, using the design for the tavor.


I hope these rumors are true.

>>816277
is that the Type97b from RS?
>nggg orange tip

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>>816502

>>814687

>>>/sp/

>>814687
That ball is bigger than 6mm
>>>/GTFO/

Anyone use KJW 1911 model?

>>816594
Yes, plenty of people use it. It's a good replica

>>816594
yep, I used one and it performed perfectly. Good kick, pretty loud and decent gas efficiency

>too excited to fall asleep because airsofting next day
>decide jacking off will calm me down/tire me out
>jack off
>cum on my bb's
>let it dry
>rather than having a mag with heavier weigth bbs I have a mag with cum coated bbs for cheaters
>having a fun day shooting people with my dried semen

>>816457
IIRC the barrel, gas plug and bipod are very different, but the receiver and stock are nearly identical to early war Brens. I've seen both barrel and mag conversions done (Brent magazine shells can be bought on the cheap) but I'd honestly settle for just the Zb.26, 'cause I love Czech guns.

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>>816615

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>>816461
Maruzen (or was it Marushin?) made a gbb AUG like a decade ago, but it wasn't 1:1. A company named JAC also made one, but I don't think it was gbb.

>>816497
I'm cool with the idea of WE making one.

These are only rumors, right, but is there any indication if it'll be an A3? It tickles me, the idea of using metal mags in a polymer stock bullpup.

Are WE's M16s any good? I'm new to this, I have an M&P of theirs, it's ok, but I've been feeling like getting some sort of assaultrifle.

>>816775
Most WE rifles are pretty good, once you replace some key parts with RA Tech reinforced steel parts.

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>>816506
Yes

>>816317
>Dat sig 550
>Dat SR25
Are you me but with more money?

>>816797
I see.
What parts would these be, and how expensive are they?

Say I got an M16A1, A2 or an XM-177 (I dig oldschool ARs), what parts would I replace? And how difficult is this?

We're talking GBB here, right?

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My SAW getup for this weekend's op

>>816896
Lose the plate carrier and then 7/10 would cheeki that breeki.

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>>816898
The vest is for insulation and the fact that I'm lugging around a 25 pound gun.
Its also similar to common vests worn in Russia. Of course not the same, but similar. PKM SMERSH is in the mail but won't be here for another couple weeks.

>>816900
I stand by what I said.

>>816902
No problem
Just wanted to explain my reasons.
I have a standalone border guard vest but I feel it'd be too baggy on me. Maybe I can tighten it down a bit.

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This is without the vest
I can see where you're coming from
May just do this instead

>>816896
I like the Russian Heavy look. Can you tell me about the PKM? What brand is it, do you like it, where does the battery go? And what helmet is that?

>>816905
Personally I think it looks better with the vest

>>816907
>>816906
I second both of these

>>816906
PKM is a Matrix brand PKM I got during a pre-black friday sale for 299
Its nice and accurate with 6 inch groupings at 160 feet (Based on audio feedback from shooting a 1.75l glass vodka bottle), hop up isn't that hard to get to and you get used to the specific way you need to shoulder it if you're not bracing it. Only issue with the Matrix PKMs is that the fire contacts can stick occasionally, but thats fixed by depressing and letting go of the trigger again.
Battery goes in the ammo box. I use a fuckhuge 5000mAh 9.6v battery and I just place it in the main chamber. In total the box should hold about 5000 rounds but with the battery its more like 4200-4500. Reloading is easy though as you can pour bbs into the box via the flap where the real one would be feeding rounds through.
Helmet is a replica that's a bit shorter than standard ones but I prefer it seeing that I can hear better and any sorts of vests don't interfere with it.

>>816934
Link to helmet?

>>816941
Local guy made it for me
Not sure if he's even around anymore

>>816905
Without the vest it looks shit.

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>>817029

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>>816896
>>816905
Looks better with vest. I'd actually suggest elbow pads since the gurka is a little baggy. Maybe do the full face mask instead of half mask.

>>816905
It looks amazing, both with and without the vest

>>816292
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e-gosF3-CF0aNmNE8tYEX4E91kfVRHg-koxnYj0p29U/pub

I think that's all of my links I've used. I've also included some links that could help for the MP40 and the StG-44 users out there. I'll update it with more info if more people somehow need it.

>airsoft video
>audio is all fucked up because the maker put the waterproof backing on their gopro case

>>817306
[INTENSE SHAKING AND WIND NOISE]

>>817307
>[HEAVY BREATHING]
>[VIBRATION FROM AEG MOTOR]

>>817306

Either that over dramatic music drowns everything out. Even my group is guilty of doing that.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ymK_ZUrlXU

>>817395
Well, music is a good way to hide shitty audio, and I find that most raw airsoft audio is shit. Choice in music does matter though.

>>817395
>they have only 1 camera
>it's just them playing airsoft
>nothing interesting is happening
>battlefield theme playing in the background

>>816856
I'm the VSS guy, its just that it's out of commission so it didn't make it to the picture.

And I'm just financially irresponsible, not rich.

>>817444
d-did I do better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZP5dptO-MY

>>817306
>have an A7 and want to take some gameplay footage
>no lenses that I own have image stabilization (I'm using old Olympus OM lenses)
>camera doesn't have in body stabilization like the A7II
>no external mic
>no steadycam rig
just kill me desu

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>>817259
Hot damn, thanks man!

>>816416
Ya, trying to save money with these things usually doesn't happen most of the time. Still pretty kewl, and ya the Mg42 is a nice gun, but heavy is right hopefully once I'm done school for the summer I'll have the strength for it ha.

I heard the Sten was a fun one, what you did looks pretty neato as well. Might have to try that myself.

>>816770
I've had bad experiences with Marushin GBBs.

It was an M1 Carbine (with a 30rd M2 mag, M2 markings, a round M2 bolt carrier, and a fake M2 fire selector that was connected to nothing).

Now, it felt great, awesome balance, just the perfect length and weight, nice length of pull, awesome feel when shooting and racking the bolt, nice wood, but:

>magazine release fell out, can only be kept in place with the magazine inserted
>rear sight began drifting, windage is loose
>would occasionally slamfire the last few rounds in the magazine
>magazine seals broke, spare mags virtually non-existent, I only ever had my one mag, no more mag, no more gun
>barrel (and also the front sight), began canting freely, there isn't anything stopping the barrel from rotating

For the time it held together, it was amazing, but I don't wanna go down the Marushin GBB road again.

>>817575
Too serious
Too tactical

Anyone else like picking up bargains? I just nabbed an ICS MP5 for 50 piddlypunds. Wiring needs replacing and it needs a little TLC but other than that it seems solid.

Since I already have an ICS MP5 I'm tempted to just get the car spraypaint out and give this thing the NERF makeover. I don't have a comedy gun in my collection yet.

>>817306
>[MUFFLED YELLING IN THE DISTANCE]
>[MUFFLED YELLING BY THE CAMERAMAN]
>[WHINY GEARBOX NOISE]

>>817767
>[CONSTANT AMBIENT NOISE]

>>817306
>"Uhhmhhphmh mphhh hph hpphphhhf"
>"Mpphh!"
>*WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR*

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>>817575
>That one fucking guy who grabs the gun
Every time

>>817773
>lean around the window and full auto spray into a room less than 6ft away.
>dont stop even when its pretty apparent you've already hosed everyone in there down.

Kid should be lucky he didn't get dragged out the window

>>817575
Oh, I didn't know you visited /asp/, Oxide

>>817775
Are you serious pal?
You never grab someone.

>>817783
Play like a dick, get treated like a dick.

>>817786
1. There may be no rules to engagement distance or full auto
2. He wasn't continuously shooting anyone for any extended period of time but was spraying the room
3. You don't fucking grab people or their guns during a game
4. You tell a ref if you think someones being an ass rather than grabbing someone. Now you stand a chance of being kicked out of the game rather than just him.

>>817775
>>817783
>>817786
Also, in like 100% of fields I've played, touching any part of someone else's kit, including replica, counts as a melee kill.
>those baseball grenade toss
Yeah, you hit someone in the head and you can hurt him badly
>inb4 wear a helmet

>>817792
Of course we don't know the rules, but we can criticize the rules for being unsafe

>>817798
If it was something like a BFG I'd agree with you, but those pea grenades weigh nothing and are mostly cardboard and air. You'd notice it but I don't think it'l hurt.

>>817798
There's a difference between touching and grabbing. At no field that I've been to has there been a rule where you can actually grab someone or one of their guns.

>>817806
Well, he grabbed it: you should never grab someone else's replica or you risk getting shot.
I am not defending he grabbed it over the window, but just saying he should've been out the second he saw a hand touching his rifle

>>817811
You're applying rules that aren't in affect here. Besides, one of the founders of MSW himself reviewed the footage and said the one who grabbed the rifle was in the wrong.

>>817775
I think a bit of overshooting is better than possibly throwing someone a window.

>>817575
>they have only 1 camera
check
>it's just them playing airsoft
check
>nothing interesting is happening
something interesting is definitely happening
>battlefield theme playing in the background
slavrock > call of battlefield

Oxide you put out good content keep it up

>>817444
>2 different Cameras
>at a national OP
>Breaching and Mercing Bitches
>dunno what that shit is

>>817773
I would have ziptied a grenade to it

>>817944
A Thunder B hooked onto his gun would be hilarious
Fuck with him however you want long as you don't grab his shit IMO

Does anyone else prefer the look of guns without tactical rails over every available inch?

I keep seeing MP5s and AKs with the full tactics going on and I can't stand them.

>>818053
I do. I run ak74u with wood furniture so no rails, no attachments.

>>818053
I have both and I like both wood and tactical AKs
Tactical rails are nice for customization but a nice wood kit is very pleasing to the eye. I also like that you can make even shitty chinese wood look nice with the proper wood staining kit. When I get a GBB SVD I'm probably going to keep it with wood as SVD wood kits are sex.

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>>818053
Not really

>>818053
>I keep seeing MP5s
Are there even any good mp5s on the market?

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>>818057
Woodkits are fun to play with also

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>>818068

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DID SOMEONE CALL MR. CoD MW2?

>>818113
>Dat freedom blanket

>>818065
ICS make solid MP5s, if difficult to upgrade.

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Gonna fukkin do it, gonna do a damn proper job of it too.

>>818053
I just like AKs in general, tactical or not. As long as it's not an SR47 or other such abominations, it's good to me.

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>>817775
I did overshoot, but I couldn't see into that room very well. I wasn't sure if he was calling his it or just shuffling off.

>>818123
>ICS make solid MP5s
HA! No. Externals are shit. FET is shit. Don't bother.

CYMA if you don't mind doing some work or G&G are good choices if you can get them since they both have parts readily available in V2 gearbox form. Otherwise VFCs are pretty damn solid and the best Navy grip on the market.

>>818065
If you want nice externals, SRC and VFC have steel receiver MP5 models.

>>818602
>Finding an SRC MP5

That's like finding a unicorn while its pooping.

>>818604
Is SRC even still in business?

>>818606
Yeah, only makes crappy m4 and oems EF