Is Taekwondo Worth Learning?

>>756951

Well, it's the "science of kicking", similar how boxing is the science of striking. You'll devellop very clean techniques and if you throw some TKD stuff into a kickboxing fight you can surprise people a lot.

Downsides are the sparring modus, it devellops into "kick sniping" and you'll have less "penetration power" than other kicking martial arts with less refined techniques. Also it's sometimes a little bit "military like", if you know what I mean, but that depends on the instructor.

Since you already should be able to hold your own pretty well with your martial art background, I'd say give it a try and see if you like it..

>>756951
After 14 years of it I can confidently say no. If you want kick stuff do muay thai

>>756951
Yes.

But don't neglect your hands.

While TKD gets shit on pretty hard (and I'll shit on some TKD dork who thinks they can just step right into a real fight without any work) you can transition to real fighting with some boxing and wrestling.

>>756971
Every time tkd is mentioned on this board some faggot with 14 years of experience(or so he claims) comes to shit it up

>>757038
Not the cockgobler you are trying to sexualize,

But if TKD was practices full contact it would be very interesting. As it is they don't even practice low kicks. They train for competition which results in prioritizing light and fast tapping over actual strikes.

>>756964
>similar how boxing is the science of striking
kek no
boxing is at most the science of punching when punching is the only striking allowed.

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>>756951
no. taekwondoe has some great stuff, but all the useful bits are already integrated into kickboxing. the rest is shit that only works in choreographed demonstrations.

>>757053
The feck dojang are you going to where they don't practice low kicks?

Depends which kwan the particular dojang traces back to if any. Jidokwan for example was originally a Japanese occupation era judo school before being integrated into tkd.

Isn't ITF supposed to be more self defense oriented than WTF's point scoring mentality?

Get a gun and go shoot it on the weekends

>>757176
Theres good schools in both as they are more political organizations than anything else. Tkd is a chimeric monstrosity of at least 9 distinct schools to begin with .

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>>757092
>all the useful bits are already integrated into kickboxing
What's the move-set of kickboxing, anyway?

>>757138
I am a decent human being and don't practice TKD.

>>757038
>>757053
Not that guy, but i've been doing TKD since Jan 87 and it's more about what you want out of it. OP seems to be another westerner who wants to know some system of fighting that's useful.
You're experienced in 5 other martial arts so it's all about you. I gently discourage grownups from martial arts because my classes are mainly kids, who will learn confidence and self control and all have a demeanour of someone who is not an easy target or easily riled. If you're over 18 and haven't got that yet, you need serious working on.
Some TKD schools are just sport, with no values, the practitioners are like soccer players. Other schools are whacky white people who know all the korean names of moves and are kind of like super committed weaboos. Some never do tournaments. Martial arts has a bad name because of little dudes walking around thinking they are weapons.
Look for a teacher with good skin, hair, eyes and teeth, in good shape, who can laugh and is good with animals and small children. Tense edgy fuckers are to be avoided like the bombs of aids they are.
North Korean TKD has this sine wave theory to the movements, that hasn't really taken off anywhere, WTF is mainly sport, the old kwans are no big deal anymore, it's all gone very pro and standardised.
It's the only martial art with a focus on values, the western respect for bushido is retarded contrasted with the eastern respect for chivalry and fair play.
Technically, TKD has the best kicking, muay thai is as good for combat but it's immersed in Buddhism, so westerners doing it are generally extreme masturbators working out their tough guy/daddy issues. Inb4 hurr moo tai is awesome i kill yoo...guys, you don't get it.

>>757226
Literally everything killing tkd as a martial art the post. People like YOU are the reason nobody takes tkd seriously

>>757176
ITF still does point scoring, they just do it with no contact. "Self-Defense" oriented means more time spent roleplaying. The only thing worthwhile to come out of TKD is some of the WTF sparring elements.

>>756951
If you've got a good based in Kickboxing, and it's a good school (re: It competes in WTF full contact tournaments and trains for them) it's a great supplementary art.

>>757092
Lol no. The useful bits are mostly abidextrous footwork, setting up counters and leg feints. They're not well integrated into regular kickboxing programs.

>>757226
Stop being embarrassing.

>>757226

Good post, actually.

>muay thai is as good for combat but it's immersed in Buddhism

No, apart from very few MT gyms (I went to some for a short time, BTW) you won't get much of buddhism or meditation. Which is a shame, because MT has indeed "values".

>so westerners doing it are generally extreme masturbators working out their tough guy/daddy issues.

Kek, that's pretty much to the point. MT is great but some gyms are full of assholes. But probably not the majority.

>>757258
>abidextrous footwork

Is this really such an advantage? I spent a long time trying to be ambidextrous and sometimes I wonder if my time wouldn't have been better spent training asymmetrically. You never saw people in the old days occasionally deciding to put the shield on the right and the spear on the left just to shake things up.

>>757328
True, but they didn't have much margin for error (and most rank & file spearmen didn't train much anyway) so they stuck with old-reliable.
Since we don't have to worry so much about death, we can afford to take the risk and spend more time training unorthodox stuff in hopes of getting that slight advantage.

>>757328
It is really such an advantage.
Although, tips and tricks doesn't compensate for lack of skill in the fundamentals; most of the time, anyway.

>>757258
you are dumb af guy at least 3 people get knocked out at every ITF tourny ive been to 6/15 ive come out with black eyes. People get fucking smashed in ITF you shouldn't even talk if you have not participated in one. I am now in ama mma and MT sure they have better legs kicks but they cant hang at all with head kicks or body kicks and the foot work is trash.

On a side note why are you so salty about ITF?

>>757138
Wtf doesn't do low kicks and wta doesn't do contact spraying so don't know what mcdojo you coming from

>>759292
Full contact isn't allowed in ITF, If you do full contact it's your place or sub group that does it not the official federation

>>757328
Without the integrated footwork? No, it's completely pointless.

I'd point out though that even when fighting strictly orthodox, I still make use of the footwork to dodge/set up/follow through on kicks.

Weapons training is obviously very different. However, in the little HEMA I've done, you do actually step more like WTF style than kickboxing style, because the same goal is to clear as much space as you can.

>>756951
Itf from a korean instructor- yes
itf from any instructor 4th degree or over - yes
itf from any instructor under 4th degree - no
wtf - no

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>>756964
tae mean the foot
kwon means hand
do is way or art

it literally means the hand foot way...

>>757176
no its more like a fighting style that a martial art when it comes to sparring

only recently did itf introduce a two punch rule, two punches tehn either break away or kick. wtf is literally foot tag.

>>757258
enter a tournament and tell me its no contact

kickboxers get taught the mauy thai way of kicking which is very slow
tkd kicks are very fast
combine the two for a perfect kick

but you are correct about ambidextrousness, but thats true of all martial arts. you should train both sides of your body equally for maximum effectiveness

>>759456
the itf will allow full contact on the provision that its a counter....please learn teh rulkes before spouting shit

>>756951
I would say No but it looks cool. If you work in the movie business it's looks great but in a street fight with garbs and striking, It's just not combat effective.

>>756951
I had taekwon do experience for 13years. And i got a teacher who was straight from south korea. Apparently a university professor and coach for the TKD team there.

Anyways, TKD as i was taught was more of a sport rather than a combative style. It was like olympic boxing, focusing on points rather than knocking someone out. Though the movements in tkd can help with other martial arts. The high kicks are aggresive, the footwork is good for any type of martial art and the endurance training is great.

In short join TKD if you want to experience a sport. Its helps condition your body and will give you improven flexability. I got good at footwork and moving my body around, and that helped me a lot with boxing and grappling.

>Is Taekwondo Worth Learning?

Yeah if you're a 12 year old boy that wants to beat up a bully

If you're an adult, do the respectable think and learn boxing. It's the patrician combat sport.

>>769677
>do the respectable think and learn boxing. It's the patrician combat sport.
The respectable think would be to learn Kickboxing or MMA.

Why would you want to do tkd OP? You've already done Muay Thai, and it's GOAT for striking. Why not stick with it? If you want pure kicking, I mean....sure, you can. But there's nothing tkd will give you that savate and kickboxing haven't already, unless you really, REALLY want to break boards. Or compete in oly style...which. Well, it is full contact, but you'll have to lose all the great habits from various boxing and kickboxing styles, just to learn how to fight less realistically, essentially. If you want to work striking, do muay thai as a base, and use elements from the other styles to, y'know, branch out.

Tbh, if you want a new style, I'd recommend BJJ, as it's one of the few good ones you haven't done.

But why bother, you sound like a dojo hopper. The truth is, if you picked 2 or 3 of those (any 2 or 3, as long as you had some strikinh and graplling) and put as much time into your selection as you did flitting around, you'd be fucking dangerous.

So sure. Do Taekwondo. Maybe look for a school that does hapkido also. Can't hurt to keep going with your attempt to be a yellow belt in everything.

>>774240
>Can't hurt to keep going with your attempt to be a yellow belt in everything.
Eventually, he could be an orange belt in everything.

>>774240
Maybe OP isn't an MMA fan(atic)

>>774372

So? If he wants headkicks, millatiristic/traditional/macho training in gis, breaking shit, kiais, belts and more headkicks, he could do kyo or some other forom of knockdown karate.

Why not do that? Why go to a school that's main purpose is kids birthday parties and glorified tag training when you could actually be a real man, and have your bushido wet dreams come true too?

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>>774423
>studying judo

Taekwondo is a good martial art for a beginner with some time on their hands. The art by itself teaches some basics that could be useful to a beginner in martial arts. I teach taekwondo and believe that by itself it doesn't have too much real world application, so I throw in a few techniques from martial arts (Usually Judo or Aikido) if you intend to learn more than one martial art or are interested in the sport then I would recommend taekwondo. If you want to learn self-defense quickly I would say learn kickboxing

>>774477
>and taekwondo

>>757268
I went to a muay thai gym and came out an asshole

>>756951
It's gay and for queers like tkdbrah

Ya know what you should really do? Get off asp and go elsewhere for martial arts advice. Most around here know jack shit, and intelligent discussion is nearly impossible.

>>757226
Yo, explain what you mean by "North Korean TKD has this sine wave theory to the movements" cause that shit sounds really interesting.

Also, in general to "kick" into the consensus of this thread, I took TKD for 2 and a half years and learned a lot of kicks, but next to no foundation. No going deeper by getting into kung fu. I definitely went to a wack dojo when I was taking TKD, but even the legit stuff from it is questionable. Focusing on kicks so much just isn't a good idea, realistically.

>>769726
Boxing is still a pretty respectable choice. The emphasis on punches in it goes far enough to be distinctive, and could help solidify or strengthen the dudes punches, if he's already practicing many styles.

>>774242
SAVAGE

>>756951
BJJ and boxing,

>>757226
>you could apply what you say about people who practice MT basically about any martial art

>>777331
The wave movement is sort of reminiscent of bajiquan in that they sort of rise and sink/fall into their strikes. Also good aka "traditional" tkd is equal parts punching and kicking with some grappling lifted from judo .

>>757328
versatility is powerful. Sparring is a mental game; you establish a pattern then you break it.

>>757053
only pussy lightweight divisions do that foot fencing shit. you try to pull that crap in welter and heavyweight and you get shit on because everybody there kicks like a truck.

>>757223
>>769677
>>769726
>>774240
>>774389
>>777019
All of you need to stop being autistic MMA fanboys. TKD may not be as effective of a martial art as BJJ or Muay Thai, but it's a perfectly fine sport. Yes, they have birthday parties and shit for kids, but guess what? Kids programs pay the bills. And yes, the sport is somewhat of tag, but it's still full contact and in the heavier divisions that shit doesn't fly.

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I have never been in a fight and I never plan to and I don't really care about being combative or super great at self defense. I'm looking for a martial art that is fun and it seems like TKD has fun flippy kicky shit that would make me feel like a cool dude. Can anybody confirm/deny or give me a better alternative? THANKS

>>780362
If you want to do flippy shit then track down capoeria or wushu

>>780416
Awesome I'll check these out, thanks pal

>>779978
>All of you need to stop being autistic MMA fanboys

No. Fuck you. Go jack off to shaw brothers films dickhead

>>780362
>>780416
>>780574
Go with Wushu, the entirely exhibition type. You get to do tons of flippy shit and get multiple weapon curriculums to twirl around n whatnot. It's the best martial artsy thing for looking cool and having fun and being fit without actually having any idea of how to fight.

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