Name a better TV match

>>3062053
This feud was GOAT for TV matches.
>this match
>benoit v austin x 2
>jericho v austin
>TLC III
>angle v benoit steel cage
I don't think it will ever be beaten.

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*blocks your path*

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>>3062053
>>3062069
That's cute. What do I win?

>>3062077
who?

>>3062077
hi phil

>>3062053
Based Meltz only giving this a 4.75.

>>3062122
maybe HHHs injury stopped him from giving it five

*blocks your path*

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xsntat

>>3062137
why can't we have crowds like that today?

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>>3062077
>>3062139
When all is said and done Cena is the best wrestler in Raw history right? The amount of amazing TV matches he has had is unreal.
>pic related is another epic Raw Cena match.

>>3062053
DX and the Radicals vs. The Rock, Cactus Jack, Rikishi, and Too Cool say hi.

>>3062145
If he is it's only because he's been around for so long

Bret, HBK, Angle, Benoit, Bryan etc were all consistently better

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>>3062053
Goldberg vs. Hogan

>>3062141
Because we don't have wrestling as interesting as they were back then

>>3062161
>all consistently better
>retired early and/or murder suicided because they were unsafe
None of those guys have a resume of great matches comparable to Cena. Prove me wrong.

>>3062137
>can't fucking hear the announcer over the cheers for Austin

>>3062166
But Melzter says wrestling is better than ever

>>3062178
>Meltzer says wrestling is better than ever
>never in history have there been fewer eyeballs watching wrestling

>>3062178
In WWE? No.

>>3062261
>it's not good unless lots of people are watching
What kind of retard logic is this

Wasn't the Brock, Angle ironman match on Smackdown? If so, that.

>>3062122
No doubt in my mind that if 2017 Metlzer rated WWE 2000-2001 matches, there would have been no less than 5 5-star ratings given.

He was too caught up in his own "yeah... but 90's All Japan" shit.

>>3062149
This. The crowd is lit and goat ending too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYVJsnmehd4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i5NqkMGuM8

>>3062278
anon if a tree falls in the woods and nobody is around to see it... did it happen?

>>3062288
>dat Kane return at the end
so God damn Based

>>3062273
he gives WWE matches the highest ratings ever right now

>>3062296
So what? Just because Meltzer rates it highly doesn't mean it will be enjoyable for everyone else as it's his subjective ratings.

>>3062141
>>3062166
Wrong. It's because the WWE has spent the better part of this millennium killing their fanbase's investment.

>>3062167
>being an idiot

Cena wasn't even having consistently good matches until like 2012.

>>3062294
Yes
What does that have to do with my question?
The quality of a wrestling match has nothing to do with the amount of people in attendance you mark. I've seen great matches in front of audiences of 100 people to 80,000 people.
It doesn't matter how many people are in the audience, either a match is good or it isn't.

>>3062261
But in the past few years New Japan & BritWres among others have been getting their biggest crowds in decades, so this literally isn't true

>>3062136
afaik it didn't impact the finish, and it made the narrative after even larger than life.

>>3062145
yes those are the two great matches he's had on TV. He's fucking crushing it! 11 years for 2 great matches fuck I love cena

>>3062053
Man poor Chris Jechio he had to wrestle a handicap match

Roman Reigns VS Sheamus
Roman Reigns VS Seth Rollins
Roman Reigns VS Chris Jericho
Roman Reigns VS Finn Balor
Roman Reigns VS Kevin Owens
Roman Reigns VS Rusev
Roman Reigns VS Braun Strowman
Any Roman Reigns match

>>3062499
not funny
fuck off back to youtube

>>3062137
bretty gud for a RAW match with a DQ finish. I never knew of this match, thanks for sharing. I thought Mania was the first time Rock and Austin fought after Rock had first won the big one.

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>>3062164

This is the biggest match ever given away on free TV

Bischoff cost the company millions by not putting it on PPV, it would probably have been bigger than even Starrcade 97

>>3062524
>titles changing hands on TV

NO! STOP THIS!

>>3062141
-Things were less sanitized
-The show was more intense
-The performers were more charismatic
-Ultimately people just want to watch big manly men duke it out
-Different crowd, now it's families and kids and internet nerds
-No stupid singalong chants
-The internet has ruined people's sense of wonder
-People were more drunk

>>3062295
Atmosphere was top notch and will never be replicated. Kane looked like a legit killer and it was like the WWF could do no wrong creatively at that point.

>>3062137
How did they tape this with no hard cam side?

>>3062288
Damn I forgot how good Cactus Jack's music was.

Eddie Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio (WWE SmackDown! 6/23/05)
Randy Orton vs. Daniel Bryan (WWE RAW 12/16/2013)
Stone Cold vs. Chris Benoit (WWE SmackDown 5/31/01)
Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels (WWE RAW 5/3/04)


>>3062304
>Cena wasn't even having consistently good matches until like 2012

Was 2007 erased from history?

I won't say its better than some posted here, but Taker / Jeff Ladder Match

>That start
>Those hope spots
>That Jim Ross

Sting and Warrior vs Bret Hart and Hogan on nitro. Obviously the match was shit and ended in interference but I was a little kid and marked out hard seeing all those guys in the ring at once

>>3062500
B A S E D
I O
G G

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Probably not the best found found another little gem.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3j91go

We're just going to act like Michaels v Benjamin never happened?

I'm also going to add the Guerrero v RVD ladder match & Booker T v Benoit "Best of 7" series.

>>3063334

The 98 best of 7 first 5 matches are all so good. They told such a great story, people forget it went 8 total and the final 3 didn't live up to the first 5 but it didn't matter it was great nonetheless. They also had a match at Spring Stampede that set the whole best of 7 up and it might be better then any of the best of 7 matches.

Just great chemistry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxm-_1QWUeY

>>3062069
that drew alot of fucking dimes. no lie

>>3063151
That's another really good one, made Jeff a star.

>>3062137
wow what happened?

>>3062516
Yeah it was the night after Rock turned heel at Survivor Series, Rock was SO over as a face even though he never actually had turned face and just ended up getting cheered, and his heel turn was the hottest thing of all time and fit perfectly with the Corporation vs Austin

>>3062137
>that kino shot of Vince and Shane at 4:30

>>3063958
>7:30

>>3062077
This was a really good fucking match.

>>3062053
I was there that night! May 2001 in San Jose, CA that shit was God tier! Back when Raw was still good.

>>3062077
new fan here, who tf is that on the right?

>>3062516

They also had 2 matches in late 97 over the IC title. Including one at the DX ppv.

This is on par with the best WWE tag team matches.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1qmjkd

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>>3062500
BASED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndgVcE7w0uo&t=204s
There was nothing spectacular about the wrestling and this was purely made to be a spectacle match, but what a fucking spectacle it was.

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HBK totally an asshole in here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5j3HZFB004

>>3062137
god that pop for Austin is ridiculous, what the fuck happened to this business?

>>3062137
7:40 Austin goes for a Rainmaker
this is surreal

>>3064631
Vince stopped giving the fans what they wanted and began giving them what he wanted.

>>3062053
Goldberg vs Hogan was the main event on Nitro

>>3062772

These, plus people didn't have phones and actually paid attention for the show.

But really, the show was just better.

>>3062077
The fact it had a piledriver in the modern era already puts it at the top of the list.

>>3062500
Based Big Dog giving ungrateful WWE "fans" quality matches regularly.

>>3062137
Corporate Rock > Hollywood Rock > Babyface Rock

Here's another great TV match.

https://youtu.be/5Rpl6lbqQuI

https://youtu.be/xy70huJTVAI

>>3062295
One of the best returns ever. He was fucking jacked.

>>3062700
They did. Hebner was forced to reverse the decision because he was caught fast counting as revenge for Haytch getting in his face earlier. Biggest cocktease of the year, and another reason why Haytch had legit nuclear heat back then.

>>3062137
five star match even with the ending

>>3062137
five star match even with the ending

>>3062137
GOAT I've always thought Corporate was his most based persona.