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Meltz says women do better numbers as wrestlers vs. being eye candy

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>But far more important than if the crowd does or doesn’t react, those who have access to quarter hour numbers have noted this group of women do far better in the ratings than the Kelly Kelly types and Maryse types (in her wrestling days) and the women in general did when the women were hired with the idea of getting the hottest models and trying to teach them to not have bad girlie matches as opposed to now where the women aren’t discouraged from wrestling a hard style.

There you have it. Eye candy and glorified models contribute less to the show than women who can actually work.
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countdown to when smarks turn on Meltzer.
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>>2875135
Duh. Even back in Sable's day there was absolutely no evidence that ticket sales or PPV buys were boosted by tits and ass. TV ratings, maybe, but that's where it ended. A big pair of tits will draw interest from someone surfing channels on TV for all of a few seconds, but who is actually going to pay to see it? Pornhub is a click away
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>>2875135
I mean he's probably right. When you consider that only children and progressive numale redditors watch WWE it makes sense.
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No shit. Kelly Kelly, Maria, Maryse, that whole era of Divas was literally PISSBREAK™. But it's not like this current era is any better. I literally only look forward to what Asuka is doing, because she can deliver, and that's it. Everything else is still a pissbreak.
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I don't doubt it. There was a brief moment in TNA where the knockouts were big draws.
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>>2875148
This

I can watch a million other things to see women who are incompetent at everything other than being attractive. If I'm watching a wrestling show and it has women in it, I'd prefer them to be fucking wrestling and not be terrible at it.
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Let's not pretend it doesn't help to be attractive though, it definitely does. Good looks on their own won't do a whole lot but as part of a more complete package they're undeniably useful
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>>2875156
the KOs, specifically The Beautiful People 1.0, were a top draw for TNA.
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>>2875153
The overall audience was quite a bit larger and more diverse in the mid-late 2000s. It wasn't smark central yet. Even then the diva stuff underperformed. Muh redditors is a piss poor excuse.
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>>2875162
sure, if you're a geek searching for a waifu in desperate need to have sex
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It's better to be both as modern joshi has shown.
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>>2875154
>le asuka is good meme
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>>2875169
People who want to watch a wrestling show want to see wrestling no matter male or female, wow crazy huh
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I love the women as wrestlers, primarily because Sasha Banks is a freakin superstar.
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Yes that's why wrestling is so popular today, right Meltz?
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http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/02650487.2017.1334996

Sex has scientifically proven not to sell at this point.
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>>2875223
>WWE's sharp decline began while the diva era was still in full force
Makes me think
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>>2875223
He knows he has run the business into the ground and now he's trying to cover his tracks. >"Uhhh, Omega...is, he's uhh, such a superstar, and uhh, 6-stars...oh, and here's the thing.... women's workrate is like *cough* it's a huge draw"
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>>2875135
Because now that smark culture is mainstream, wrestling fans want a waifu that can wrestle

Women's wrestling is still pretty worthless though
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>>2875232
he never said anything close to women are drawing huge. he simply said they're doing better than before. the show as a whole is stil very much in the shitter
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>>2875135
Jokes on him I still fap to them anyway.
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>>2875236
Wrong, I heard him. He said, and I quote, "women's wrestling is bigger than any male ever and will probably lead to the next boom period."
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>>2875228
Basically, yeah. It makes an ad more memorable but has no (possibly even a negative) effect on purchase intention.

I'm sure it's all a conspiracy cooked up by the sjws that run the world though. All the researchers are on the payroll.
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>>2875241
Holy shit /asp/ BTFO
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>>2875135
What you do is you find talented women and put them in the ring, THEN you also exploit them for their bodies and sexuality.

Look at Charlotte. Look at Nikki Cross. People on here go nuts for both of them.
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>>2875241
Wrong, fucker. I heard him and he said "JBL raped Mauro's wife and if you little faggots don't start rallying to get him fired NOW, I will fucking bankrupt your favorite promotions by rating them all 0 stars every night."
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Beautiful People segments almost always raised viewership during Impacts
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>>2875360
>tna fans
>people
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>>2875286
plus its a hell of a lot simpler & easier to pretty up a talented person with makeup & hair than it is to train some random failed model at the same level
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>>2875162

wait hold on isn't this a plebbit post?
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>>2875135
>Eye candy and glorified models contribute less to the show than women who can actually work.

The idea would be to strive for both while not patting yourself on the back publicly all the time because you were forced to stop doing bra and panties when you went to the PG format.
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too bad all the chicks in the e are bad workers
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>>2875416
I dunno why it took so long for this to click with them, it seems pretty obvious.
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>yfw this was the most profitable women's wrestling ever was and will be
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>>2875448
GOAT
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>>2875448
This motherfucker broke her neck in a match and finished it with her head to one side. Fucking Legend
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>>2875431
Charlotte is better than your favorite wrestler.
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Based women's wrestling. The decades to come will be the real peak of women in the sport though because we'll have a much larger group of women to pick from next generation.
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>>2875182
>modern joshi is in shambles compared to its heyday
What did you mean by this?
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>>2875448
also had the coolest entrance gear
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>>2875454
Charles is the worst of the 4 horseman it's 2 am ric get some sleep
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>>2875462
Which is why I didn't compare it to its heyday, but female wrestling in Japan is still light years more popular than it is in America. Or anywhere else really.
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>>2875448
Aside from those huge cross-promotional shows in the 90s; wasn't Zenjo consistently more popular in the 80s?
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Neither of them draw money. People just prefer to see tits and ass than tranny she-hulks
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>>2875135
Women wrestlers beat eye candy (who can't be sexual) in2017 in WWE? go figure. When in last time Divas did sexy photoshoot? 10 years ago when they still allowed them to d Playboy?

Let the likes of Lana start doing more risqué matches/angles and wearing less revealing clothing and see who does better in ratings

Meltzer's an idiot. Sex sells always have. WHo is he trying to kid?
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>>2875762
eeeeer.... they already wear really revealing clothing. How much more revealing do you want to be? They already wrestle in underwear.

It's just - their clothing is not sold to you as REALLY revealing, nobody is saying to you you should be aroused by them. You are so easily brainwashed, if someone tells you you should whip out your dick and fap you will do it. But if they are not telling you that you think they are not eye candy?
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I mean, I don't even wanna fucking know what kind of people are those that fucking cheer for Bayley and like that character, if they are adults...
The whole womyn division is a fucking disaster, there are few good looking and that's it, they do not entertain me AT ALL. It's so fucking awkward to watch them speak and wrestle and do other shit, absolute fucking cringe. How the fuck do people enjoy it, is beyond me
I really believe what this old stuttering senile fuck said is all fucking BS and tries to push the womyn shit just like the 5 stars maymay

Well done Vince, you listened to the obese smarks and feminazis and ignored Eva
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JwxifRfxzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKXKkPB7GN4
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>women are there for tits and ass
>company is doing alright
>women are there for wrestling
>company is dying
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>>2875135
Its almost like it's a fucking wrestling show. The goofy shit is still there, it's just not the women doing it
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>>2875803
>Ellsworth was the only reason first womyn MITB match was watchable and the only thing people will remember about is him interfering and handing the briefcase to Carmella
>Sasha's ass cheeks was the only reason first womyn HIAC match was watchable and the only thing people will remember about is obviously her ass(let's not forget Charlotte trying to break tables with her and failling miserable multiple times)
The fucking state of womyn division
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If WWE had booked house shows in your local bingo hall with "SABLE v Terri - in a wet tee shirt contest!" as top billing, it would have sold out.

They didn't do that as far as I know, and saved the titties for the tv and ppv events. So there's no real data to base any semi-pro journalist assumptions on.
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>>2875135
>women who can actually work

thanks for the kek OP ya fag
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>>2875762
He's comparing the current women to eye candy from fucking 2006-2010, nimrod. Pillow fights and all that shit were still happening back then
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>>2875803
>lost millions of viewers in the span of a half decade
>doing ''alright''
kek. the vast majority of the damage was done before muh revolution
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>>2877131
and the ratings were way higher back then. checkmate
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>>2877474
now this is some great wrestling
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>>2875135
>There you have it. Eye candy and glorified models contribute less to the show than women who can actually work.

You can have eye candy everywhere these days anyway.
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>>2877474

You really don't know, how this works, do you?
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>>2877507
not an argument
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>>2875537
This. 'Divas Uncovered' would do more money than a Sasha Banks DVD. Besides, most of you guys sexualize almost every female wrestler.
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>>2877512
Yeah...you don't answer on a none-argument with an argument.
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>>2877544
you just got worked into a shoot
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>>2875135
>having more exposure and main events creates more attention
Thanks Meltz!
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