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Make the switch to NJPW.

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>b-b-b-but New Japanetty doesn't dr-draw crowds
>b-b-bingo halls! Y-you are the b-bingo halls, no-not us!

Why haven't you made the switch to NJPW yet? Judging by today's crowd size, it seems that the great people of Dayton, Ohio have moved onto far superior promotions, instead choosing to spend their hard earned money and time on the likes of Okada, Omega, Tanahashi, Hiromu, Naito and the Young Bucks. WWE will be plagued by images like these the longer the lackluster and uninspired shows keep on going. Can you imagine how Kevin Owens and AJ Styles feel upon signing with the WWE, under the impression that they finally made it, they're finally in "the big leagues" only to come out, look at the crowd size and realize they never left the Indies?
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yeah we know gooks like nakamura are huge anti draws
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Reminds me of the 2001 Nitro's.
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>>2784200
>it's the NJPWfag posts pictures FROM THE PURPOSELY MADE EMPTY SIDE AGAIN BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE FUCKING CAMERA IS
fucking idiot
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>>2784200
Oh look, another bingo hall drone that doesn't know about hard camera side. They can't have anyone on that side because the camera mics would pick up everything on that side. Also, Tokyo > Daytona, Ohio.
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>>2784200
>NJPW so desperate for fans it pays them to shill every single day online
Sad! Or maybe weebs are just that shook by WWE's continued existence
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>>2784200
You made the right move. I myself made it two years ago and I cannot be happier.
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>>2784215

>b-b-but that's j-j-just the camera s-side
>n-n-not because pe-people don't want to show up to the sho-shows anymore

Lmfaoooo, E-drones everybody. Unbelievable damage control.
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>>2784220
>empty seats in the front row
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>>2784215
This is valid

I appreciate NJPW and WWE but this guy is right, some of these fucks on here will post the hard cam and the ten feet around all sides of it and say "LOOK HOW EMPTY THIS SHIT IS"

Or a picture clearly before they even film WWE Superstars of people just showing up for the show
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>>2784215
eh? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XEjT822yMU

entire arena looks full here.
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>>2784225
Obviously moved by The Young Lions because they knew the spot was coming. Watch the show and you will see them move audience members off to the side. Nice try though.
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>>2784200
I don't understand. If I cared about attendance numbers than there's no way I would watch NJPW. Wasn't dominion held in a literal bingo hall?
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>>2784200
Why would I switch to a product I don't enjoy and know very little about, solely because an arena didn't sell out? And why should you give a fuck? It doesn't affect you or your enjoyment of New Japan.
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>>2784242
Get educated. Most of their wrestling events are held in arenas made for wrestling, matial arts, and judo. Osaka Jo fits 16,000

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka-j%C5%8D_Hall
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>>2784242

The absolute fucking state of E-drones. You're as, if not more brainwashed than North Koreans. My god, do you really fucking believe the shit you spew, do you believe the WWE narratives that they are "da b1g leegzzz"? You can't, not for one fucking second. This has to be almost 3 times as much people than tonight's Smackdown TV.
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>>2784200
I have a subscription to NJPW. It's great for a few shows. But much of it is filler multi-man tag matches or midget wrestling in front of a 500 fans.
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>>2784250
>He cares this much about what people like
Have sex
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>weebs literally BEGGING for people to watch their irrelevant shit
LMAO
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>>2784257
Not begging. Just showing you how wwe is a dying product and how embarrassing it is admitting to people that you watch wwe. The live attendance at televised events prove this.
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>>2784253

>he ignores my points and refuses to counter them because he's an assblasted faggot who knows crowd sizes these pathetic are inexcusable and has absolutely no comebacks besides "lol do something else".

Suck my dick, faggot. Enjoy your failing and rapidly shrinking company. They can't even sell out university arenas, arenas that by definition are "small". Look at the picture in the OP, that's tonight's Smackdown. Here are more details on the university arena where Smackdown was being held. Keep in mind this was a very small arena by WWE standards. There had to be around 5,000 people in there tonight. Dominion sold out every seat in the 12,000 seat arena with standing room tickets on top of that and you guys seriously think NJPW is the "Outlaws" and "Little League". I can't fucking stop laughing, this is priceless. WWE Booking shows in Bingo Halls, Public Parks and your local Walmart store when?
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>>2784261
And how does a non-sold out arena affect one's enjoyment of WWE? It doesn't. At all.
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>>2784264
see
>>2784267
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>>2784200
This isn't news faggot. The hard cam side is tarped off more often that not, and it's been that way for years
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>>2784267

"Enjoyment of WWE"

Holy fucking shit. First off, the show needs to be enjoyable in order to achieve this but taking into account your mental retardation and various other mental deficiencies needed to watch this atrocious product and deem it "enjoyable", Vince could probably piss directly into your mouth and tell you it's lemonade and you'd believe it.
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>>2784273
Sure it is, boi. Keep telling yourself that. And they also used to always "tarp off" the tops of the arena because it is aesthetically pleasing.
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>>2784248
Will be ignored by OPetty
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>>2784261
You post your plea every single day, weeb. Us WWE chads can smell the desperation.
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>>2784285
This. It's just annoying now. Best to start ignoring the New Japanetty
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>>2784279
You're comparing an annual event to a 205 dark match. Also, enjoyment is subjective. Tell me why you care so much about what people like. Tell me how your life got this pathetic. How it got to the point where you, quite literally, are telling people what they can and cannot like. You're a fucking joke.
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>>2784285
>WWE
>Chad
Pick one. No self respecting individual admits to liking WWE to anybody because you will be shunned. You are delusional lol. Quite the imagination you have there, boi.
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>>2784293
You were just BTFO by >>2784290
Please stop trying.
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>>2784249
>>2784250
You're comparing a PPV to a weekly show. That alone should tell you about the difference in scale.

>>2784264
I blew out one of you weebs a few threads back. A bad year for the WWE would be a god send for NJPW. AXS and TV-Ashia have beyond trash rating featuring NJPW. I like shit posting about the WWE as much as the next anon, but you're way over your head if you think their going anywhere
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>>2784290
Your anger is real because your promotion is failing. They have literally ran out of good ideas. Honestly, they have not had a good idea in years. Reminds me of 2000-2001 WCW, and you know how that ended. Also, your post is as phoney as your picture guy being a real scientist.
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>>2784302
forget you, I liked 2001 WCW. Except Animal being there, but other than that, yeah.
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>>2784283
>>2784248

OP here, I originally thought that a post this fucking retarded wasn't worth responding to but I'll bite. Crowd sizes are a great indicator as to how well a business is doing. Historically, the wrestlers would look at the qualities of the ring rats and determine what state the business is in but since the only chicks who watch this are overweight black bitches on Twitter who post unfunny gifs along the lines of "Slay king slay" and "Drag him king" every time Roman Reigns posts a wimpy, whiny little response to trolls on Twitter, I look at other indicators, most notably ratings and crowd sizes. It's no secret that year after year, along with ratings, attendance has been absolutely plummeting. Raw posted some decent ratings last night, good for them but images like these express a general distaste and frustration with the WWE product. No one's watching. No one's going to the shows anymore, the people are disenfranchised with the product. Want to know why? Because the product sucks, they market the letters "WWE" as the draw and not individual superstars and people have left in droves. Compare that to NJPW which is experiencing a rebirth of sorts. Attendance is way, way up, they sell out shows on a much larger basis than WWE does, indicating that the product is "hot" right now while WWE is ice cold. Because the product is actually good and they market the WRESTLERS, not the BRAND as the superstars, something that WWE does not do. I look aside and I see fellow fans of NJPW, happy and enthusiastic about the product, a fandom and general "buzz" that the WWE hasn't had in YEARS. Face it, E-drone. The WWE isn't so hot right now but NJPW has all the momentum in the world. And the difference in crowd sizes is very telling of this fact.
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>>2784297
wwe had trouble selling tickets for Money in the Bank. Dominion as posted earlier sold out immediately. You get proven wrong again, get angry, repeat. Too easy.
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>>2784232
Caw caw caw caw
(caw caw caw caw)
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>>2784310
None of what you said commented on why is should affect enjoyment.
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>>2784302
Nothing you said refuted my points. Nor did you answer my questions at the end there.
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>>2784248
>>2784283

Oh, and also, great attempt at downsizing it and painting it as the failure to sell out one arena. This has been going on for months and months. The WWE cannot legitimately sell out arenas anymore. Wrestlemania misses a sellout by 25,000 seats, Royal Rumble missed a sellout by 20,000. In the past few months, they've sold out maybe ONCE or TWICE in the past 120 shows. They don't fucking sell out arenas like they used to anymore which tells you just how frustrated Wrestling fans are with the product currently.

>>2784320

No, you just don't like my answer, you fucking idiot. Let me capitalize the points of emphasis, with how handicapped you are, you need all the advantages you can get. The crowds are DOWN because the product's QUALITY is DOWN. NJPW's crowds are UP because the QUALITY is UP. It's not fucking hard to understand, you dimwit.
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>>2784328
Why do you care about what people like
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>>2784330

Because if you're going to watch Professional Wrestling, you might as well watch a product that's been objectively good. I don't know what your moral compass is like but essentially, you want to reward and encourage good behavior and penalize and scrutinize bad behavior. WWE is doing horribly right now, the writers are stupid, the storylines are stupid, the wrestlers are on cruise control. NJPW is going all out and actually putting forth the effort, which is why I try to lead people in the right direction. I dislike seeing good promotions struggle for a spotlight while seeing shitty promotions act complacently and lazily simply because their fanbase is stubborn and content with accepting scraps and mediocrity.
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>>2784346
You're actually trying to justify caring about what people like. The absolute state of you.
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OPetty btfo'd by real pics, and not cherry-picked nonsense from who-05 and pre-taped SAD from years ago.

Pic related: RAM this past Monday.
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>>2784200
Dayton is a small market town plus the Nutter Butter Center is a pretty shitty place. If it was Columbus at the Schottenstein Center or Cleveland at the Q then that place would be packed. Vince is retarded to have his shows in small towns like Dayton. Even worse for an arena like the Nutter Butter Center.
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>>2784346
>my pro wrestling is better than your pro wrestling
Can't make this shit up.
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I havent switched because there are no stories and if i just want to see two people engage in a fight as like an event ill watch ufc
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>>2784200

They're having that G1 climax on AXS TV, which I think I get, on July 1 or something. I'm going to try to watch that, because it should be fly AND they'll have English commentary
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>>2784354

He asked me a question and I answered it. I understand the concept of human interaction escapes a brain-dead and shut-in socially inept retard hidden away from society in your mom's basement such as yourself but not all of us are like that.

>>2784355

Hey, fucktard. Look at the picture. You can literally see Chad Gable on the Titantron and Kevin Owens in the ring. This was from TONIGHT'S show. This wasn't a dark match or 205 live or a house show, it quite literally says Smackdown Live and it shows an actual bout that took place on tonight's TV recording, with the half empty crowd. Also, I find it funny how you imply that the New Day are not only still on Raw but they were on this week's Raw which was also advertising "Money in the Bank", a Smackdown exclusive event. Holy fucking shit, do you WWE apologist, damage control-spewing E-drones even WATCH your OWN fucking shows? Seriously, not even the fans who claim to watch WWE, actually fucking watch the WWE. My goodness, this has to be the saddest day for E-drones to date.

>>2784367

I don't know, I haven't seen you deny this fact or try to argue against it.
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>>2784382
>Gets btfo
>B-but tonight's pic matters more

The absolute state of Carter.
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>>2784374

"I haven't switched because there are no stories"

No, you seem to be a little confused. The point of this thread is to convince WWE fans to switch to NJPW, not to convince NJPW fans to switch to the WWE.
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>>2784382
>OPETTY LITERALLY SEETHING
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>>2784382
"Like what I like guys."

Please, I'm not being ironic, kill yourself.
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>>2784200
>>2784250
>>2784264
>>2784279
>>2784310
>>2784328
>>2784346
>>2784382
>>2784391

>this is what you will turn into if you watch Nu Japan
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I'd watch if I spoke gook
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>Imagine being this pathetic and sad, that you have nothing else going on in your life that you have to tell people what the can and cannot like.
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>>2784391
>he does this by posting the Young Cucks
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Reminder that the NJPW general thread only has 33 posts as of right now and maybe half of those are troll posts so not even NJPW threads can draw
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not a weeb
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>>2784397
>>2784395
>>2784393
>>2784386
>>2784407


>S-S-S-Seething
>B-B-BTFOOOO
>K-K-Kill yourself
>N-N-Nu Japan
>S-S-Sad!

Absolutely no comebacks from the E-drones. All they have left to resort to, what they cling onto are their tried and true, epic little predetermined responses with funny gifs and memes. I see not a semblance of an argument, I see no comebacks or clever retorts, all I see are defeated faces, clinging onto whatever they have left. I was asked a question, I responded swiftly to it, an action E-drones were simply unable to reciprocate. I believe my work here is done. I'll let the lurkers who read these threads decide and come to this foregone conclusion themselves. WWE is losing and NJPW is on fire. And nothing you E-drones say can do about it. Much like I have handed all of you your asses completely by myself, I expect NJPW to make quick work of the pathetic, sad cancer that is the WWE. Good night!
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>Cena admitted that WWE is catered towards children
>WWE fan base among children is down 40% in the past few years
>Man children are keeping WWE alive

As long as we still have man children amongst us, WWE will still be on life support, but the actual children have wised up. What does that say about the current state of WWE fans?
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>wrestle kingdom 11 sells ten thousand less tickets than wrestle kingdom 9
>weeb wrestling fans declare wwe is finished when their non pay per view shows draw 10% less than two years ago in literally where towns
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>>2784419
Translation: I am pretending that I am going to bed but I really am just going to close this tab and keep shitposting because I am a sad and pathetic loser who just wants attention because I was denied it as a child. I don't have any friends and I am a NEET.

OPetty on suicide watch.
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>>2784423
>Talks about man children WWE fans
>Anime picture
>Likes new japan

Really activates my almonds.
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>>2784200
I wish they'd offer a better deal on their service than $10 a month though. Pirating can be a pain in the butt for 1 ppv a month at best
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>>2784419
This kills the WWE.
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>>2784447
They were trying to make deals with the independents to air their shows on the network but as usual those deals fall through.
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>>2784200
I would watch njpw if they had subs
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>>2784313
Yet they still out sold dominion. Again a bad year for wwe is a great year for NJPW.

>mad posting
le yawn
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>>2784313
and for dominion
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>>2784813
>>2784816
>NewJafags BTFO
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>>2784813
>unsourced Wikipedia figure

>>2784431
If you projected any harder you'd become an astral body
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>>2784249
Fuck yea, good memories at Osaka Jo. Now I'm sad, fuck you.
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>>2784883
>compared to cherry picked photos of a crowd
Yeah I'll stick to the numbers. Also I forgot to mention that WWE PPV tickets are also more expensive than Dominion tickets. So WWE had a much larger gate.

Where do you want to get blown out next? NJPWs abysmal ratings? Lack on sponsors? The fact that they're owned by a trading card company?
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>>2784200
I'd watch NJPW if it was easy to access and I understood Japanese.
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>>2784200
Why do you even care what I watch? I watch some RAMs and Smackdowns on youtube and I watch some big matches from NJPW.
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>>2784959
I'm not comparing anything, mook. Your grade for using Wikipedia as the primary source is an instant failure.

>NJPWs
>Lack on sponsors?

Grammar baby please.

>owned by a trading card company

BUSHIROAD is a fucking giant conglomerate you idiot
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>>2784293
>Caring so much about what other people think about what you like

You remind me of those autistic threads about WHAT WRESTLING T-SHIRT IS ACCEPTABLE TO WEAR IN PUBLIC
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>>2784419
Ok I'll bite.

>Absolutely no comebacks
Are you actually begging us to reply to you and argue more?
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>>2784985
You're arguing on a anime website about which mandrama is better. Not only that, but arguing with a complete stranger. You're pathetic my man.
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>>2784250
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>>2784310
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>>2784346
>>2784382
>>2784419
>he is literally so enraged by people watching other things he writes non-pasta novels to try and convinced them otherwise

I completely unironically pity you.
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>>2785372

I don't think about you at all.
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>Why haven't you made the switch to NJPW yet?
Because Japanese wrestling is just as boring as WWE. Just stop watching wrestling altogether and do something worthwhile, like finding a job you fucking NEETS.
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>>2785419

>Implying I don't have a job where I pick my own flexible schedule
>Implying I don't enjoy shitposting here on /asp/ and feed on getting angry, seething, cuck-like little responses from the E-drones
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>>2785424
I dunno, OP. Reading through this thread, it seems like it's the E-Drones causing you to SEETH.
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>>2785424
Too sweet me for triggering these E Drones!
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>>2785419
Based Shantae raking in the dimes
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>>2785431

Here you go!

>>2785430

How? I argued my points, they were fairly straightforward and was met with the same exact bullshit they always post. Seething, BTFO, worked, sad, kill yourself. None of whom were able to retort or actually deny my points. Just because I eloquently explained while the E-drones posted lazy, regurgitated and piss-poor responses, doesn't mean I'm seething. It means I won.
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>>2785404
*checks OP*
*checks subsequent novels of buttmad*
Yeah, you do.
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>leave /asp/ for a few months
>decide to come back to see how things are going
>E-Drone poster has sailed clean off the edge and is now, furiously attacking everyone who disagrees with him and trying to argue with people over which sweaty homo-erotic male grappling is better

Staying here does things to you.
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>>2785469

>Poster count didn't go up.

Sure, you did, pal. Sure you "left /asp/ for a few months".
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>>2785476
i left post-mania desu
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Also, as an aside, why did you preface this thread with "Make the switch" when it's less pro-NJPW and more insanely-anti-WWE?
There's no real grounds to pretend NJPW is any good today in it's own right, either. Just like WWE it's a shadow of former glory; the final 2, maybe 3 matches on any big PPV are worth watching. The rest of that card is likely trash, as is the majority of what is produces in the ether between these larger shows. There are about 1-4 matches it puts out monthly worth giving a fuck about.
You're trying to be elitist when both promotions are veritable shit-sundaes. Are you really so starved for entertainment that you're content with a scarce handful of cherries sitting atop that puddle of shit?
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>>2785518
There's no real grounds to pretend NJPW is any good today in it's own right, either. Just like WWE it's a shadow of former glory; the final 2, maybe 3 matches on any big PPV are worth watching. The rest of that card is likely trash, as is the majority of what is produces in the ether between these larger shows. There are about 1-4 matches it puts out monthly worth giving a fuck about.
Where does this meme come from anyway? Just because midcard matches aren't as good as the main events doesn't make them trash brother, not everyone goes by a great or awful scale with no in between like you seem to
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I'm still watching WWE just to piss you off OP
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>>2784200
LOLWWE
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Why does the NJPW shitposter post about the bucks? Nobody in Japan gives a fuck about them Omega is over as fuck and drawing dimes but the bucks are irrelevant as fuck in Japan and only nu males in the US give a damn about them
Omega is cool as fuck but FUCK the Young Cucks
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>>2784200
WWE Network = nearly 2 million subs.

NJPW World = measly 50k subs worldwide
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>>2785518
>There's no real grounds to pretend NJPW is any good today in it's own right, either. Just like WWE it's a shadow of former glory; the final 2, maybe 3 matches on any big PPV are worth watching.

Bullshit. NJPW isn't perfect but the match quality is usually anywhere from "good" to "fantastic" to MOTYC on most shows, especially PPV shows like Dominion, WK or the G1, stop applying your retarded WWE logic to everything mate.
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>>2785665
>make an actual criticism of New Japan's lack of consistency
>fanboy loses his shit and calls WWE

Really, as a fan of New Japan yourself, you should expect more from these shows. This is why they're not as big as they were in their heyday – not that you'd know anything of it.
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>>2785655
>WWE Network = nearly 2 million subs.
They're not even close.
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>PREASE WATCH MY SHOWU, GAIJIN

Give it a rest Hoshi
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>>2784200
I watch both of them faggot
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>>2785691
>watches wrestling
>calls other people faggot
Time to look in the mirror
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>Product catered towards children (admitted by John Cena in the famous interview)
>Children don't watch anymore (down 40% past few years) because it's not "cool"
>Product insults their fan base
>The only fans they have left are man babies (most of whom do not work and cannot afford tickets)
>Arenas are more than half empty

Imagine my shock
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>heated arguments on /asp/
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I'm tempted to give it a shot desu

I don't want to watch it if it's only in japanese though
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WWE tards on suicide watch. Maybe they will reopen the old WCW Orlando Studios building so that they can get all of their brainless virgin NEETS to migrate there so that they can give them free tickets to make it look like the public still cares for wrasslin'.
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>>2785718
>ywn be this upset about an imaginary brand-war on a dead board

Feels quite nice honestly lads.
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>openly being upset about what people people watch and admitting it
>saving numerous pictures of empty arena-sides to bolster your point
>letting WWMEME live in your head completely free of rent
>this is what Japanese wrestling does to your mind

Honestly lads I'd just rather not watch mandrama.
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>>2785671
>"Well I watched NJPW when it was actually cool and popular" the comment

Well aren't you fucking special. Implying how random fans other than yourself can only enjoy New Japan because they didn't grow up with "classic puro" is cute, really it is, but taste is subjective mate. I can appreciate Okada vs Omega just as much as Misawa vs Kobashi, right now NJPW are putting on fantastic events more often than not, not because they're the GOAT or anything but because they put their foot down and TRY, cannot say that with WWE anymore which is beyond lazy and recyclable.
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>>2785755
Imagine getting THIS upset that someone stated that something you like isn't that good anymore.
>but taste is subjective mate
Yawn.
What else you got, babbyboi?
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>>2785766
thank god we have this guy informing us what's good or not and whether I like it
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