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http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-monday-cable-originals-network-finals-5-29-2017.html

ONLY 2.5 MILLION VIEWERS

WE'RE IN WCW 2000 TERRITORY

AND IT'S ALL ROMAN REIGNS'S FAULT
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>>2709105
haha wwe will be dead in a few years rip
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Will based /smack/ actually beat Raw in ratings this time?
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still not as low as 1.87 ambrose yet

we can go even lower
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>>2709158
Yes
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Next week is more interesting. Will RAM ever recover from Mrs Flapper and big dick Phil.
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>>2709105
I'd blame the main event.
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>>2709105
>Romanetty
>It's *insert anyone but Roman*'s fault
>Argument over if he's over yet or not
>BBDWTOS
>Memes, flame baiting and samefagging

Here's your thread for the next 24 hours
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>>2709167
No. Smackdown used the women's five way as the main selling point for this week's show. We all know women's wrestling is not a draw.
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>>2709105
Last RAW rating past 4 weeks:
1.99
1.90
1.89
1.88

WCW 2000 was doing mid 2's

Pretty sure Meltzer said on Twitter the other day WCW 2000 got more viewers.
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>>2709217
i feel bad for ambrose

he's just 2 points away from not being the woat draw
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>Reigns in last match
>People turn off en masse
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it is gonna die bros?
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>>2709105
>ratings don't matter

>(until 2019)
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>>2709220
he ain't the main event. roman, seth and balor are.
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>>2709228
Hopefully yes.
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>>2709233
Yeah but he drew 1.87 as main event champ

We havent gone lower than that
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>>2709209
Reminder that Sasha vs. Charlotte was one of the highest rated third hours of the last year
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>>2709270
>1 (one) instance of women drawing decent-ish ratings proves me wrong
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* 8-9: 2.68
* 9-10: 2.68
* 10-11: 2.4
B-BUT melzy says roman vs seth was a gud match
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>>2709296
Not Roman's fault people turned off after Alexa killed the show.
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>>2709248
Nigga, it was July 4th, how much longer you gonna harp on that.
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>>2709303
it's romans fault that no one tunes in at the start
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I'm the only unironic WCW 2000 fan.
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>>2709294

It can be a draw if done right...so...yeah, you are proven wrong.
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>>2709158
LOL

If raw did this bad expect bad Smack numbers worse than normal.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzltiVDVb5M
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>>2709327
it's been done right more than just that time and still nobody gave a shit so...yeah... he's not proven wrong
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>>2709105
RAM ratings in the toilet to the surprise of no one
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>>2709296
Christ there's literally no excuse there.

>Balors a draw
>Reigns a bore
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>>2709228

I hate to say it, but I kind of hope so. I'd be really interesting to see what happens after that.

Maybe it could go away and come back in three years or something. Imagine how hype that would be.
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>>2709228
No but Vince might sell
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Anyone notice they're advertising Cena for the July 4th SmackDown? You can tell they're getting concerned.
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>>2709339

At the moment no one but Cena is a draw anyway. Regardless of gender, size or skill...
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>>2709312
I dug it, too.
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>>2709248
it's funny because we will this year, for sure and there won't be 4th of July excuses for that

It'll be Roman in the main event too.
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>>2709373
Cena barely added 200k viewers last year on his return.
Lower than Goldberg's 300k
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i just don't understand why they can't just make interesting storylines and characters.

they wan't to go down under
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>>2709379


That is still a draw.

Goldberg was draw in the beginning as well, but that disappeared towards the end.
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>>2709228
Not unless USA takes it off the air.

It will have to drop to 1.5 or lower before anything drastic is done.
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>>2709387
Their biggest draws are part timers they can only use on the big shows. That means a lot of time to kill where nothing is happening apart from anti draws trading wins and tag matches.


WWE is fucked. They are literally having to fill pages and kill time with shit even they don't care about.
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>>2709389
well yeah, but not even that huge
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>>2709217
i remember the days when RAW IS WAR would get a 5.0
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>>2709364
WWE should just sign LA Park, he's the only one who can save them now.
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>>2709228
It's still ranked 2nd to 4th in cable viewership, so USA might still want to hold RAW.

Unless it's reached the point where it's not cost effective.
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>>2709228
No, Netflix will buy it and fill the roster with trannies, homos, gratuitous IR sex scenes, and a full hour of Nia Jax every show with Chanty Binx and Pete Rosenberg on commentary.
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>>2709409
Nothing can save this company, who are you kidding?
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>>2709331
Pajeet will save us
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>>2709105
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>>2709373
true WWE put all their eggs in the Cena basket way back when and now they're hardcore suffering for it
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>>2709105
>Look at the link.
>Raw dropped in ratings and Love and Hip Hop wasn't even on.
>mfw
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>>2709307
until roman goes lower
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>>2709419
Sorry, he's going to challenge Jinder at SDL
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>>2709105
>ITT: Literal, actual, unironic retards
http://www.businessinsider.com/cord-cutters-and-the-death-of-tv-2013-11
Stop comparing WCW to WWE, that was 17 years ago, you virgins.
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>>2709432

no Better Call Saul or NBA games either
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Finn is not a draw
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>>2709449
"The cord cutting excuse is complete bullshit" - Big Rig Meltzer
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>>2709456
No shit.
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it's over friends

wrestling has terminal cancer

it's only a matter of time
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>>2709449
Meltzer went over this and debunked the cord cutting theory.

The ratings are a % of the households that get USA Network which has grown from 10-15 years ago and is only slightly down over the last few years.

So sorry cord cutting is an excuse and is wrong.

WWE has a declining audience because of the product.
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>>2709478
I don't watch wrestling
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>>2709465
>Ratings are based on a percentage of households that get USA network
>Cord cutting is accounted for in the ratings number and doesn't affect it.
Regardless of who said it, do you think these two statements are true or false.
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>>2709449
>>2709457
>>2709465
>>2709478

http://kiwi6.com/file/hjc1k84f2u
73:40
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>>2709490
Meant for >>2709478
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>>2709490
listen to what Meltz said before saying you disagree with it >>2709491
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>>2709483
So are you a fake gun enthusiast or a skateboard faggot?
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>>2709491
gave me a virus asshole
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>>2709498
I used to watch WWE but it's unwatchable. I come here to see if anyone is talking about any of the glory days of wrestling.
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>>2709499
fuck off these links get posted every episode just click play

faggot
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>>2709499
talking shit because you dont want to listen to Meltzy proving you wrong.
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>>2709497
>>2709495
>Meltzer said something so that means it's fact
Show me some evidence to back up his claims.
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>>2709509
Prove what, that ratings work the way he says they work?

How about you provide some evidence that

>Ratings are based on the percentage of households that get the network in question.

Isn't how it works?
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>Braun injures
>Ratings plummet

Take the belt off of Bork and put it on Strowman at SummerSlam.
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>>2709520
Prove it. Burden of proof is on you dipshit.
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>>2709483
Fuck off little cunt. What do you do? WHAT DO YOU FUCKING DO!? Fucking faggot.
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>>2709509
He is a respected proffesinal wrestling journalist

You can google USA Netwok numbers yourself they are available.

You strike me as the smamry cunt who wants a scientist to come to you house and prove that gravity is real.

It's not our job to educate you and you have proven you are to lazy to even click play and listen to what was said.

Not worth the oxygen you breathe but hey i guess you need the Evidence to prove oxygen is real
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>>2709527
It's really not, you're the one positing that cord cutting is affecting the ratings.
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>>2709462
Wrestling doesn't, WWE does
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>>2709449
>cord-cutters-and-the-death-of-tv-2013-11

That was the positive claim and such has the burden of proof. and the rest have been people discussint it.
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>RAW was #1 on cable for the night in viewership and #2 in the 18-49 demographic, behind Street Outlaws.

Smarks BTFO
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>>2709547
Thats like saying a football stadium that holds 60,000 was only half full but it had more people than the roller derby.

it's ignoring the lower numbers and lack of interest
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>WWE makes fun of the fans for being no-life geeks that are too busy watching wrestling to go outside and interact with other people in the This is Your Life segment
>Not a lot of people actually went outside for Memorial Day
The state of WWE's fanbase
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BASED BIG DOG WORKING VIEWERS SO HARD THEY TURN THE CHANNEL
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>>2709105
>IT'S ALL ROMAN REIGNS'S FAULT

Yeah because that three hours of combined dogshit plus bayley cringe didn't contribute in the slightest

Gosh I bet that Goldust segment would have bumped ratings to a 3 had it not been for that stinky Samoan
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>>2709412
I'd watch that.
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>>2709547
There was literally nothing on cable on Monday.

When they're #1 against serious competition, then maybe I'll give a shit
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>>2709399
citation needed
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>>2709209
At this point, it's as much a draw as anything else. It's like TNA's low points. The Knockouts were a draw by default.
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>>2709312
I preferred anything WCW to WWE.
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>>2709413
Who are you to doubt La Parka? He's a real jam up guy.
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>>2709536
Yeah, and their cancer is their fans. The WWE nerdiverse.
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Ok here's how we save WWE:
1) Hire Russo as head booker of Raw
2) Hire Cornette as head booker of Smackdown
3)???
4)Profit
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>>2709691
might b cool. Give everyone a little bit of everything.
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>>2709478
>Blows out an argument with statistical fact
>"Stick to your weeb wrestling!"
First of all: SEETHING
Secondly, what do you have against America that you don't think we like facts?
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>>2709691
Step 3 is put them in the ring together
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>>2709312
It had its moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiELVV9uNdg
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hypothetically speaking,maybe...just maybe...i'm not entirely sure here...but hypothetically, if people COULD SEE GODDAMN UNIVERSAL CHAMPION OF RAW AFTER 2 FUCKING MONTH INSTEAD OF SAME 5-6 WRESTLERS EVERY FUCKONG TIMR THEY COULD GIVE A SHIT ABOUT RAW
but it's all just a big IF
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>>2709371
Vince selling is the only way this shit can become moderately decent again.
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>>2709412
Sad but true.

The state of current year is absolutely degenerate.

But its their last grasp, its over for them soon
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>>2709105
>plummet
>1 STREET OUTLAWS DISCOVERY CHANNEL 9:00 PM 76 1.03 2,514
>2 WWE ENTERTAINMENT USA NETWORK 9:00 PM 60 0.88 2,681
>3 WWE ENTERTAINMENT USA NETWORK 8:00 PM 60 0.88 2,689
>4 WWE ENTERTAINMENT USA NETWORK 10:00 PM 66 0.83 2,468

Top 2 to 5 of 150 original cable telecasts is still Raw.

>muh npjw

Nobody cares.
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>>2709228
Soon really.
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WCW didn't die because the ratings were low, they were still turning a profit. When ratings get to 1995 WWF, then that'll be bad.
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>>2709296
It was a good match, but it doesn't really matter if people tune out before the match even begins.

How much longer is the company going to try to pretend that Reigns and Rollins can draw dimes?
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>>2710589
>they were still turning a profit
>lost 65 million in 2000 and were in the negative in 2001
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>>2709105
> No big ratings Braun
No shit the ratings are in the shitter, we don't have any real sized wrestlers. If they stopped pushing vanilla midgets like Roman Reigns or Seth Rollins and turned TV-14, they wouldn't be in this mess.
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So, did Smackdown win?
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>Not a single redeemable character
>Babyfaces are all pathetic bitches
>Heels don't even get heat
>Champion doesn't even show up for 2 months at a time
>Dialog and promos are awful
>Constantly putting over old timers and attitude era while burying your current product
>Not a single interesting storyline
>Formatting is fucking awful
>Commentating is bad, bland, and forced
>Pushes own bizarre verbage and buzzwords
>Even heels have to say "WWE universe" and shit
>Seems sterile and fake
>No spontaneity
>Crowds are dead
>Overly pushing social media
>It's 3 fucking hours every Monday

I legit can't remember the last time I gave two shits about a story, probably has to date back to when Punk had the "I'm leaving with the belt" before that probably early Nexus. I'm getting hard at just thinking a 1.5 could hit by the end of the year when MNF starts again.
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>>2710597
No, it still has lower ratings than RAW.
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>>2710597
Always.
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>>2710617
All Roman's fault, not creatives or upper management what so ever
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>>2709633

bet you would kike
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Yeah, but I'd rather watch an episode of WCW 2000 than any of the shlock the E cooks up today, at least I'd be entertained.
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>>2710657
I don't like Ramen, but even he can't be blamed for all the incompetent shit WWE management and creative does. He's just as much as a cog in the shitty machine that is RAM.
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>>2710664
I think he was being sarcastic, dude.
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>>2710667
I had a feeling, but at this point you can never tell whether anyone here is being serious or not.
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>>2710584
Based WWE still churning out the top ratings in original programming.
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>>2709399

I think there was one show that got an 8.1

Granted, there was less shit in general available to be watching on TV, so "share" wasn't as hard to get, but I'd bet you $100 that more total people watched that show than any RAW of this year.
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>>2710594
>real sized

do you understand how rare it is to find guys that size and athleticism who actually want to work for WWE? high risk of injury, little paid travel, no Union, etc etc. they're lucky to even have Braun much less more people his size.
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>>2710584

That's by default though. The only real competition they have in that category is sports (there was only a hockey game on, and hockey is sadly the Janetty of the Big Four) and cable dramas like Breaking Bad, of which there are no particularly good ones currently airing new episodes.

They're going up against Discovery Channel trash and still losing. Reruns of shit shows like The Walking Dead are more of a draw than RAW.
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>>2709312
The final years of the WCW even Thunder were much better than WWE today
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>>2710705
>(there was only a hockey game on, and hockey is sadly the Janetty of the Big Four)
Doesn't help that
A) Everybody knows the result
B) Fucking nobody on the planet except shithead yinzers want it.
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>>2710710
Been like that for at least the last 5 or 6 years
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>>2710617

This pretty much nails it. The roster is full of talented wrestlers, many of whom could single-handedly carry a company like ROH or WCPW, but they are completely wasted in WWE.

Like, if ROH billed Rusev for a PPV, you'd probably see revenue double from a comparable PPV without him. WWE has managed to completely ruin any interest in seeing him. He's just another comedy jobber in a company full of comedy jobbers who live in perpetual fear of their cunt boss, where every angle is the same, the wrestling doesn't matter, results of matches don't matter, and really nothing even remotely matters.

I mean, sure, in the long run we're all dead and nothing we did matters, but the point of entertainment and drama is to FEEL like it matters to us, so that we'll pay to see the resolution. There is ZERO (0) of that in the WWE. It's all no build to a pointless resolution that, most often, doesn't actually resolve anything anyway.

I'm glad I stopped watching months ago. Life is so much less tedious just watching an hour of ROH a week.
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>>2710617
To the point of nothing mattering, this Jinder Mahal shit really drove that home to me. He was a jobber for years, I personally watched him get beat on Main Event, and now he has their top
Belt. As if we're not supposed to remember that he's been a pin eater for his entire career.

I like the guy, he seems like a good dude in interviews, but independently of that I think he's a terrible performer as a main eventer. They didn't even give the guy a midcard title, or a feud, or even name his finisher before just rushing him to the top. He didn't even have a fucking shirt until after he won the title.

Then you have shit like the Bliss segment with the actor girl burying the product and it's like...do they even want me to like this shit?
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>>2710764
Vince is trying to kill his company before he croaks. It's the only thing that makes sense
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>>2709412
>Reminder that Lucha Underground is on Netflix and it's the best weekly show in a fucking landslide
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>>2709691
>hire a guy who killed WCW and TNA
>hire a guy who nearly killed ROH
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>>2710722
>Rusev of Honor

mite b cool
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>>2709691
Why do you people insist on hiring these relics who are stuck in the 80s and 90s. Is it because they have a ton of YouTube clips?
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>>2710778
TNA isn't dead though
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>>2710788
TNAs name was so radioactive they had to change it to Impact. So in a way they did kill TNA.
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>>2710793
TNA's name was always controversial because people associated it with Tits And Ass. People are stupid
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>>2710778
Without Cornette making the Sinclair deal, ROH dies. Cornette literally saved that company. He booked it like shit, but it doesn't exist without the tv deal.
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>>2710825
Cornette's booking put ROH in a nadir that it's only just recovered from in the past couple of years.
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>>2709412
>not remembering Val Venis, Goldust and the time Mark Henry made out with a tranny during the Attitude Era
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>>2710764

>Then you have shit like the Bliss segment with the actor girl burying the product

I, for one, thought that was the best part of the segment, because she was completely fucking right. RAW is shit and anyone who watches it without somehow making money to do so has something seriously wrong with them.

>>2710797

To be fair, they usually had more tits and ass than they ever had total nonstop action.
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>>2710705
Shows with less ratings flourish. Why do you think Raw will get canceled when weaker shows never do?
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>People still watch wrestling
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>>2709217
remember WCW 2000 was dealing with the highest average ratings in WWF history and is now beating current WWF that has zero wrestling competition
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This is what happens when vanilla midgets get pushed
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>"The rating of RAW on Monday night was lower than any for Monday Nitro in history except for one. Think about that"

t. Dave Meltzer @26:30
http://kiwi6.com/file/6jg8btajlr
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>>2711052
People tend to like things that are fir kids sometimes, you for example, post images of cartoons
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>>2711052
>makes fun of people watching wrestling
>posts a anime picture

anime will always be more weird than watching wrestling
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>>2711074
You can learn a ton more stuff with 30 min of Doraemon than 3 hours of RAM
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>>2711074
Anime is far more mainstream nowadays. I'd rather let people know I watch normie anime instead of WWE.
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>>2711158
>I'd rather let people know I watch normie anime instead of WWE.


definitely this. being a pro wrestling fan is almost on the level of being a brony or a juggalo
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>>2709303
All memes aside, this is most likely the cause of the ratings drop. It was probably the worst segment since the old day, it went too long, and killed both the live crowd and the viewers at home.

Alexa should have stayed on smackdown.
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>>2711204

The third hour always drops, no matter what or who is on it or the hour before.

If anything the fact, that the 2nd hour didn't grow (in absolute numbers) is out of the ordinary, because during DS the 2nd hour is the strongest most of the time.

So people didn't drop out because of Roman, but Roman vs. Seth also didn't really draw, which is pretty damning, because it is about as big of a match as they can do on a normal RAW.
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fuck, as unlikely as it is i really wish this shit just collapses in on itself
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>>2709426
>If this is true, this could ruin me!
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>>2711237
defending ramen ...Jinder Mahal urself Arnav
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smack rating when ??
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>>2711518
1pm hollywood time
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