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Keep strictly real-steel topics in >>>/k/ , gun and gear porn's cool as long as you don't spam.

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Thread topic: There are mysterious rumours of rarely seen creatures, called girls, having been seen on the field. Have you seen these enigmatic beings? If yes, what are your experiences with them?
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Most girls I've that have played were motivated to play but borrowed their bf's gear. Never have I seen a single girl at an airsoft event.
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>>2167633
The only grills I've seen on fields are:

>women who cook meals in morning + lunch
>reluctant gf dragged along by bf
>tomboy/ugly airsoft girls

With the exception of the cooks, the others are rare. I'm sure other types exist, but I've not seen them.
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>>2167655
Most girls don't want to get shot by a BB going around 350-400+ fps
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>>2167655
At my local field there's like this group of three lady speedsofters. They run those kind of ugly hi cap pistols with HPA setups.
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>>2167655
It seems the only way to get a lover who has the same interests as you is to become gay. I have no mouth and must scream
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>>2167749
Sometimes its better if your hobby and love life aren't connected.
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>>2167750
Well at least some hobbies. I mean, what sane grill wouldn't mind messing around with armored vehicles?
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>>2167663
True, plus it's an outdoor team game, which women are less inclined to as well.

>>2167716
There's one refular girl at a field I go to, she's a solid player. Not a girly girl, bit rough round the edges.

>>2167749
I'm not sure I'd want to share my interest with my gf.

It gives me a good excuse to get out of the house on Sunday, and women have a tendency to organise your social calendar for you if there's nothing on it.
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>>2166520
Am I operator yet? uguu~

translator's note: operator means operator
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>>2167663
Most girls are fags
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>>2167859
Not too bad. Only complaint is that lego fort has no AA or machine gun emplacements.
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>>2167655
The field I work at has one pretty regular girl, shes actually pretty cute too.
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>>2167896
Does 20mm rotary autocannon count as a machine gun or an AA emplacement?
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>>2167914
Dust that shit dude.
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>>2167914
Both nigga
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My helmet counterweight, MS200 pouch, SPR QD scope mount and Condor softshell jacket all came in today. Pretty happy with it all, and to the anon who said it was very insulated, you weren't joking, this thing REALLY packs in heat.
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>>2167633
At a small event last year two of our guys brought their hot as fuck girlfriends to the field decked out in their reserve guns and kits.

One of the girls borrowed my blue armband since I was red and chatted with me before game start which was nice. I shot her later.

She joined a TV show this year.
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>>2168013
>carrying MS2000 innapouch
laughingsluts.jpg

In all seriousness I could've given you a legit SOE one for free, just for the cost of shipping. I think I actually offered it to you some threads back.
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>>2167633
>If yes, what are your experiences with them?
Hopefully they get tired after 15 minutes and drag their faggot boyfriends somewhere where they won't interrupt the game. Sometimes they are turbodykes that seem to be hellbent on "playing" and usually make the opposing team have a bad time, because they take reverse hit calling, shrugging of weaker shots and amp it to 11, you can't call them out on your bullshit because airsofters are mostly white knights and beta orbiters and will stand by them.
All in all I hate them.
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>tfw you always "accidentally" friendly fire girls, fat kids and other shitters you don't like
>probably have like 3:1 allies to foes ratio when using a BASR.
already a demon
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>>2168098
>not going full nuclear
>"accidentally" friendly fire anyone who isn't doing what they should be
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>>2168043
My apologies if I offended you, but as said before, I bought it all at the same time, and the coupon I used made the pouch basically free anyways since it was only like $8, so you didn't have to go through the effort.
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>>2167900
I bet she's gay.
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>>2168079
>guys with girlfriends
>faggots
?????
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>>2168013
>>2168043
>rhino mounts
You know US military doesn't even use those shitty wobbly mounts any more.
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>>2168232
>faggot is gay exclusive
how homophobic of you
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>>2168276
Funny, I never noticed any wobble on my Rhino Arm, when when combined with fuckheavy Soviet NVGs - so I have little reason to expect modern Western NVGs would wobble either.

The wobble doesn't come from the mount arm anyways mate - but the mount plate, specifically if it's the standard issue ratchet-and-strap mount plate, instead of three hole WARCOM pattern plate.

Not only that, you're also wrong. The Norotos Rhino Arm is still standard issue.

t. sperging autist who couldn't resist obvious bait
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>>2168013
>this nig actually fell for the meme

kek that piece of shit will be in the trash guaranteed under a month, condor is fucking shit
>>2168276
>>2168043
>>2168013
>wearing helmets in general
>avatarfagging

you're all fucking faggots regardless, kys
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>>2167859
post better pictures of the LEGO

also [spoiler] no [/nospoileronasg]
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>>2168336
>>2167914
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>>2167633
Yes, I've seen some. One of them is in the team and she's not sexy. Like, at all.
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>>2168331
You know nothing about night vision in general, cataracts.

https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-g11-mount/

>The Wilcox L4 G11 Mount is the new U.S. Army Approved contract mount for issued night vision goggles.


>Perhaps the biggest improvement over the legacy system is the elimination of wobble in the J-Arm to Mount interface. Warfighters have developed ingenious methods to reduce the wobble in their goggle over the years. But, these solutions are not elegant and achieve only moderate success. Wilcox solved this problem with the development of mechanical tension adjustment. After the J-Arm is inserted, a small Allen Key (included) is used to push a worm gear lever forward under the J-Arm’s horn. This action forces the J-Arm upwards into the cradle, reducing or eliminating the wobble. The system works incredibly well and feels as stable as a dovetail interface.

Keep using that shitty Russian gen1 nods and arm.
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What a great thread
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>>2168432
J-arm is a separate part from the Rhino Arm, you dumb shit. Only certain monoculars and particularly shittily configured binocular layouts use J-arms. The wobbling isn't between the mount arm and the mount plate, but between the J-arm and the mount arm.

As a side note TNVC itself also claims that the Norotos Rhino Arm is still standard issue, so take that as you will.
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>>2168440
Man you are retarded.

>Perhaps the biggest improvement over the legacy system (RHINO MOUNT) is the elimination of wobble in the J-Arm to Mount interface.

>wobble in the J-Arm to Mount interface.

>J-Arm to Mount interface.

> Mount interface.

TNVC is talking about the rhino mount.

The rhino mount is shit.

Wilcox fixed that issue with the g11.


Those Russian gen 1 night vision really did gave you cataract, holy shit.
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>>2168440
Also not to mention you are using gen 1 Russian night vision and you are saying a gen 3 omni 7 pvs 14 that uses a J-Arm is shitty? Again, you know nothing about night vision.
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>>2168432
As a side note, I'm going to raise a few questions here. You might be an arrogant asswipe, but I still like that stuff of yours. However I'm gonna raise a few questions anyways:

Those are 7k NVGs. On a fucking 300 dollar helmet. If you can afford 7k NVGs, you can afford an 1k ballistic helmet. If you don't want a ballistic helmet, you can still afford the superior carbon helmet for like 500 dollarydoos, instead of settling for the LTP.

Thus it raises a few questions: if those NVGs are yours in the first place, if they're legit, and if those are even your pictures - I always see the same 2-3 pictures with no new ones. Timestamp your shit, mate.

>>2168483
Reading comprehension much? Yes, Rhino Arm does have wobble when you connect NOD's to it using the J-arm, that I did not deny. However, using J-arms as a mount is inherently awful in the first place, and mounting direct to the mount arm is vastly superior. Doing that also eliminates the Rhino-to-J-arm wobble, by eliminating the J-arm itself. Rhino-to-mount-plate has no wobble. I'm not saying Rhino is the best NVG mount arm around - it is the barebones issued one, instead of a fancier commercial one. However the Norotos Rhino Arm isn't utter shit either per se.

>>2168493
And again, you miss my point. The gen 3 device isn't shit, the mounting solution is. And on Soviet NVGs - I'm not going to bother to pretend the PNV-57E goggles stand the slightest chance against gen 3 devices, I never did. In fact all I did say as positive traits for them is that they're very cost effective and that cataracts are fuddlore. I'm not going to pretend I wouldn't move on to fancy gen 3 binocular layouts with a Norotos INVG instead of the Rhino Arm if I could just afford it, but your bashing is still a wee bit overboard.

Also, post the rest of your shit already, mate. You might be an arrogant asswipe, but if you can afford that shit I am going to assume you have plenty of other good shit for me to save to my gear folder.
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>>2168098
>Tell my E/E/E/E/E/E teammate its safe to run across
>He gets let up by a SAW
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>>2168332
>"Maybe I'm the one whose wrong and all the others around me are right. No, it's everyone else who's wrong,"
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>>2168669
you make 0 sense
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>>2168825
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ
maybe now?
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>>2168515
>Timestamp your shit, mate.

Oh fuck he called your ass out
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>>2168669
>situation has nobody saying they are right or wrong, just me calling them faggots
>still using that shitty analogy which doesn't apply to my post at all

it doesn't make any fucking sense
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>>2168857
Most people are using helmets and headgear, but you alone decided that they were garbage. Instead of thinking "maybe these helmets actually work and that's why so many people are using them" you think that they are all wrong
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>>2168886
>helmet for real bullets in a game of air propelled plastic
????

They do it because they wanna dress up you stupid faggot not because of actual purpose. The only real purpose is maybe for NVGs or being forced to in milsim.
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>>2168899
I don't know about you but debris can be an issue, along with that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxedY7-kklw
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>>2168918
Maybe don't choose skinnyfat amateurs to drag a guy across uneven ground
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>>2168932
That's a terrible excuse, even I could have thought of a better excuse than "Well the ground wasn't even and the people carrying him weren't beefcakes,"
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>>2168948
There's a reason why retarded children wear helmets.
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>>2168964
There's a reason why you post on 4chan, doesn't really correlate does it?
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>>2168972
Play stupid games win stupid prizes you dense motherfucker. If you do stupid shit yeah a helmet can be useful.
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>>2168979
So you're saying you don't make mistakes? I find that hard to believe especially since you're here.
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>>2168918
>debris
like what?

also that video is retarded that's milsim like I said

its not his fault retards can't hold him
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>>2168989
I'm not a clumsy enough fool to need a helmet when jogging or walking through the woods. You might as well not play airsoft if you're so prone to accidents that you need a helmet to stay safe while walking and running, may shoot your eye out there.
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>>2168989
>anon is so retarded he doesn't trust himself to not get brain damage by just running around
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>>2168999
I already mentioned about this
>>2169000
Again, it's going to be more than that. If you just stand out in the open and casually move to places then I guess you're fine, but is it really airsoft if you aren't pushing yourself? Are you really so full of yourself that while other people use helmets for good and understandable reasons, you have to try and tell them all that they're all idiots and that you're some righteous figure pointing them to the glorious enlightenment of no helmets? Seriously, mature up or get out, I don't really care, in the end <---
and that's the truth. your comment back to me will most likely be something something kys.
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>>2169031
>literally being so retarded you can't play airsoft without what is literally a tactical retard helmet
>not even arguing against it anymore because you know you're ducking retarded
>i don't care but i'll argue about it until i start to catch on that my posts are retarded

I'd tell you to kys but you're probably going to end up doing that accidentally anyways.
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>>2168899
I run a helmet because my kit is a warfighting kit first, and an airshit kit second. If I wanted a pure airshit kit, I would just run a belt kit with a few +200rnd midcaps. But this one is meant to function with a real gun in international live firing exercises. It might be a featherweight warfighting kit, but it contains all the essentials for it regardless.

Yes, I am aware that even my helmet is heavily built up, it is still a non-ballistic skate helmet. But it is my intention to change it to a lightweight ballistic one sooner or later. And to obtain plates for my plate carrier for the same reason.

Sure, it's pretty fucking larp-y, and it is also very unlikely that I'll ever need this stuff - but it's still nice. We're all larpers here anyways, if we weren't, we'd be doing paintball I reckon.

Seriously mate, you're doing a pretty good impression of a self-righteous dickwad doing picture related. If you want 100% practicality, go do speedsoft or paintball. But you should know by now people who choose airshit over paintball usually do it because people want to feeling of a tingly peepee over muh realism.

>>2168932
While that video is just plain stupidity, dragging is often the best method of evacuating the fallen under fire for stabilization, or in airshit, treatment. You often neither get too much of a choice of picking the guy who gets to drag, but just having to have the closest one do it.

That being said if you are actually being dragged, and are conscious (e.g. are not really wounded because it's fucking airshit), a you should be able to avoid hitting things by just simply keeping your head up.

t. actually have some medical training

>>2169031
And you, feminine black multicam - just admit you do it for the looks and possibly the feeling of feeling more warry. You're not doing it for practical reasons, but there's jack fucking shit wrong with that either. It's cool to do stuff because it's nice, you don't need to find excuses for everything.
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>>2169054
You think I'm black multicam? Oh that's a good one. He probably isn't even here right now to say that I'm not him
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>>2169054
>But you should know by now people who choose airshit over paintball usually do it because people want to feeling of a tingly peepee over muh realism.

The issue is that he is denying this.
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>>2169061
I never said that, I never denied it. You just never brought it up because you were too busy trying to get me buttblasted
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>>2169064
> Are you really so full of yourself that while other people use helmets for good and understandable reasons, you have to try and tell them all that they're all idiots and that you're some righteous figure pointing them to the glorious enlightenment of no helmets?
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>>2169070
Hey, never denied it. Just never mentioned it.
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>>2169077
>arguing against >>2168899
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>>2169031
>Anon tripped 4 times receiving 2 minor concussions to reach the keyboard to type this post
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>>2169054
I haven't posted since >>2168137, I never argue with anons, that's a waste of time. 99% of the time I post you will see by the pictures. I couldn't argue these things have actual use even if I disagreed or wanted to, all I play is indoor CQB.

Also

>feminine
you delete those lies right now.

>>2169083
kek
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>>2168515
>Timestamp your shit, mate.
one time i'll support this shit
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What is the root cause behind so much of the antagonistic tone we see so much of on /asg/?

It seems that some argue over the smallest of details or minor issues, and with almost no provocation.

It's said that people are most apt to quarrel with others when they are dissatisfied with themselves. Is low self esteem to be blamed, difficult or troubled childhood experiences? It's clinically fascinating.
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>>2169711
Airsoft over time generally leaves you kind of jaded. Not to mention that a lot of the posters have either been driven away by the wewtists shitposting, or by other /asg/ posters leaving just the gran autismos.

Also fucking kill yourself redditor.
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>>2169711
>It seems that some argue over the smallest of details or minor issues, and with almost no provocation.

this is mostly the tryhards that go on and on about "impressions" Ive seen it more in the slavboo's and "reenactment" crowd. The navy seal wannabe faggots have there own version of it where they think the latest and greatest gmr approved mag pouch or whatever makes them into killing machines. opposite sides of the same coin.

>It's said that people are most apt to quarrel with others when they are dissatisfied with themselves. Is low self esteem to be blamed, difficult or troubled childhood experiences? It's clinically fascinating.

Could be, but i think that's a bit of a broad statement. I had a pretty shitty upbringing, but i don't think that has anything to do with how i feel about airsoft as a whole.

For me at least, up until recently, i worked in an airsoft shop / cqb arena for a few years, and it truly made me hate airsoft. Between little kids getting handed guns from their parents who haven't taught them any gun handling, and dont listen to any rules, parents coming into the store screaming why the gun they just bough for little "jonnycqb0p3rat0r101's" gun is broken after he does magdumps out of his KA m4 on an 11.1 i told them not to do it, and that same kid asking why his lipo is puffed and wont charge.

Then you have the "milsim" players who come to the field, and they outnumber the younger kids, but they refuse to split up, and they throw a bitch fit because "muh teem is bruthur hood! we kant shewt each otha! we heer 2 train! 4 high lvl milsim!1!11!1!!!1!"

the long and short is, airsofters in general are extremely cancerous people. I will say. Ive met some of the best people and friends i know / have in the airsoft scene, but Ive also met some of the scummiest.

Ask me anything.
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>>2169807
>they think the latest and greatest gmr approved mag pouch or whatever makes them into killing machines.
i always see faggots claiming people think this but I never see proof
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>>2168232
>I bet you kiss girls on the lips, faggot
>Uhhh? Yeah I do
they admit it themselves.
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>>2168918
>this is why you wear a helmet
Yeah, because obviously that was the only wrong thing in the video. Bunch of retards.
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>>2169807
Is it pretty much confirmed everyone that works at an airsoft field hates airsoft?
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>>2169108
if i found you on your field would you let me squeeze your butt?
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>>2169711
>What is the root cause behind so much of the antagonistic tone we see so much of on /asg/?
My earliest /asg/ memory is that one guy sharing pictures of his guns and his GF's scar on purple bedsheets. Back then things were civil, we didn't have any memes or notable avatarfags.
I think part of the reason is how much recycling there are in those threads.

Same gear photos for the 100th time, same mug photos, even same fucking reaction images.
Surprisingly this one is pretty fresh, and we've yet to had some autistic meltdowns, but for quite some time if the thread got a more than a handful replies in a short amount of time, it was obvious someone amped shitposting up to 11 with M4 ergonomics or something like that.

I'm honestly afraid to share my gear because you'd all destroy my boipucci and not even call the next morning.
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>>2169711
It is fascinating, since the airsoft community all around the world, apparently, really likes bickering and hating on someone.
>>2169807
> Ive seen it more in the slavboo's and "reenactment" crowd.
This is especially true here in Russia, where airsoft first appeared as a form of reenactment. There was a lot of weird shit like, say, the self-enforced camouflage system: when your team wants to use a certain camo pattern, you have to ask permission from the team that started using it first in the region. It still exists, but less and less people care about that, since now there are much more people and sites who are willing to ignore that sort of thing. Still, reenactors are generally so elitist I wanna vomit. Not all of them, sure, but still.
>i worked in an airsoft shop / cqb arena for a few years, and it truly made me hate airsoft
I really think that this is more of a "working in service sector". You just start to hate people that come to you and think that they are idiots.
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>>2170245
>m4 ergonomics

to be fair the MP7 does have M4 ergonomics
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>>2170245
Post your gear faggot
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>>2170272
>reenactors
Fuck those faggots. They're the worst kind of people right after or even equal to 15 year old operators/muh SF here in kurwaland.
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Are there any shops in yurop that sell WE M16 GBBR compatible A1 or A2 uppers? I don't want to shekel up on ekike because the shipping is going to kill my poor yuro ass.
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>>2170330
>muh teem is bruthur hood! we kant shewt each otha! we heer 2 train! 4 high lvl milsim!1!11!1!!!1!"

where do those kinds of players come in? they're all over the north east.
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>>2170330
Kinda worse, I suppose. Grown-ass men using "my gear is 9000 times more expensive than yours, therefore I am right" arguments. I'm not even kidding.
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>>2170341
>he doesn't use the freeship code
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>>2170354
Doesn't that only work in US though?
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>>2170358
Wow, that sucks if that's true.
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>>2170345
I guess faggots who played either too much of CoD/BF or ArmA.
>>2170349
Oh that too. And they always throw the biggest shitfits and never listen to anyone. I'll propably see my fair share of those retards this weekend. Don't forget about muh PMC groups too.
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>>2170369
I don't really know hence why I'm asking. I didn't even know there was a code like that.
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>>2170330
Ale WMASG najlepszy co nie seba xD?
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>>2170370
Well, PMC groups are, well, a very gray area around here. Usually, these are guys that still want to go to milsims, but are not really fine with putting out a shitload of money on full infantry/SF kit, and are pretty good. Buuuut there are also the classical "muh PMC" guys that I hear so much about, yeah.
I can tell whatever I want about reenactors, but they do host some great milsims.
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>>2170369
I'm willing to bet my right nut it's only for domestic shipping.
That being said, I have no idea how some shops managed to deliver a small parcel for couple of dollars included in the price while Ekike or others demand 40 dollars for a fucking spring or mag valve.
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>>2170402
The fuck outta here fag.
>>2170415
All PMC groups I've seen around here are edgy 15 year olds with tacticool guns and unified equipment. They "train" and all sorts of dumb shit. May or may not necessarily be speedsofters. Also I want to try some historical airsoft at some point.
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>>2170418
Yeah I just checked. It's only US ground parcel and only above $80 which is hilarious because airsoft Taiwan shipped some RA Tech parts to me for $20 and it always only depends on weight. Shame they don't have A1 uppers.
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>>2170345
Over here it's actually near impossible to host a skirmish on your own, I tried and nobody ever comes. Those faggots already have big teams and people seem to prefer to go to the games hosted by a team.
Of course it's a sunday skirmish, but those assholes will never split, so it's usually a team of rag-tag shitters with stocks/shotguns and sunday airsofters vs. faggots with juiced up everything. They also go for the high ground and despite that still call your hits from 50 or more meters. Classic pub stomp.
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>>2170437
I assume they go there mainly because it's at least 10 guaranteed people to show up because of those autistic teams.
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>>2170433
I was pleasantly surprised to find out EhobbyAsia doesn't charge that much for shipping. I bought a TM Tracer Unit and a MP7 thread adapter and the shipping was very reasonable - 10$ or something.
>>2170440
Yeah, though sometimes those sperglords don't arrive for the events they host because REASONS.
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>>2170446
>EhobbyAsia doesn't charge that much for shipping
Where do you live fellow BB autist? Are you the Russian dude?
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>>2170446
Or they decide to go to some other sitems for reasons only known to them without informing anyone. Another classic.
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>>2170450
Nope, I'm another guy from Kurwaland, though I don't really post much.
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>>2170457
Huh. Good to know although last time I checked there were no WE uppers I think.
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>>2170450
Hah, I can only wish I could order from Evike or Ehobby. Customs here are weird.
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Picked up this asg sa-58 for 160 and mk23 for 100. New to airsoft ownership, but I've played a few times before.
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>>2168515
Different faggot, but I want to chime in.

There is no benefit to using a ballistic helmet in airshit as long as you have a stable mounting platform. Carbon helmets only offer weight savings, and that's not worth the money to everyone. Also consider cost of these things in other countries.

There is no problem (usually) of the Rhino mount to plate, but the problem is the wobble in the Rhino arm itself. Any FTO mount WILL have wobble that will progressively get worse as the detent wears in. Friend of mine sold his INVG for an AKA2 for that exact reason. Rhino isn't complete shit, but only because it's somewhat usable.
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>>2171109
If they are as new intenerally as they look externally you did well.
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Might be cool
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>>2171251
Time to do a WH40K kit then.
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>>2171109
What the fuck why is everyone getting mk23s
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>>2171251
Nothing saying it would be AEG or a Gas gun. Really curious about the internals
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>>2171359
They're one of the cheapest Tokyo Marui guns out there and for a gas gun fairly silent, even moreso if you know how to turn your silencer into a real one
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>>2171251
what is this ugly piece of tacticool shit. jesus.
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>>2171437
If you can't tell that thing is clearly a GBB than you need to kill yourself.
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>>2171109
>already ruined it with retard foregrip and cheapo optic at the rear

not even suprised
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>>2171490
I think it may be a pic of the actual gun as that thing isn't anywhere close to being done
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>>2171490
That's the actual gun my dude
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>>2171245
Had my flgs take a look at 'em both. The sa-58 seemed new, but the mk23 is definitely well used. That top slide isn't original, but the internals are; so, I'll take it. Thanks, friend!

>>2171496
Its airsoft. I'm not gonna stick a good optic on a NBB aeg [spoiler] yet [/spoiler].
That grip will likely change to a grenade launcher. Any suggestions?
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>>2171525
>grenade launcher
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>>2171496
Oh come on, it's not like he ACTUALLY fucked it up. It's just a grip and a sight.
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>>2171698
Nah you fucked up
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>>2171466
Its like a Cowadooty shitposting gun
I actually kind of dig its chunky look which works well for a shotgun
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>>2171626
You know, for those extra long range frags
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>>2171359
Because of skullfag and Pkmfag
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>>2171454
Pretty much. The TM Five-Seven is even cheaper, but that's a horrendus pile of shit with no aftermarket metal slide frames.
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>>2171359
It's gas-effective, it has good range, and it is quiet.
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>>2171499
>>2171522
I'm fucking retarded.
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>>2172143
It happens brah don't worry about it
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>>2172143
No surprise here
>K I L L Y O U R S E L F
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Daily reminder WE-Tech is shit.
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>>2171251
>gun is both unbelievably ugly while simultaneously being unbelievably sexy

And since it's probably going to be Mag fed shell ejecting we don't ever have to see this scifi bullshit ever again
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>>2172477
>mag AND shell ejecting
What is the purpose of those pieces of shit. Shell ejecting is bad enough, and propably the main reason there are no good cheap Kar98s, but being mag fed on top of that is retarded supreme.
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>>2172507
They're not actually meant to be skirmished. It's kind of pointless here in the US where you can just get the real thing, but it makes sense for those living in more restrictive states such as Japan.
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>>2172507
literally the one reason im holding off on getting that APS M26 MASS, make it a fucking mag fed shotgun you fucking retards
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>>2172511
In Japan maybe but I don't see the point in Poland for example. I'd rather just get a sports shooting license and then the gun because it would almost certainly cost the same. Only difference it would take longer.
>>2172513
Same here fellow BB autist. Instead we're better of just getting a "grenade launcher" with normal grenades. Or the fancy shootable grenade which cost gorrilions of dollarydoos.
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>fell for the PTW meme
am I fucked?
It was a lot of money.
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>>2172540
Are we talking like an actual PTW, or like an A&K or G&D clone?
Either way PTWs are really nice. Just be ready to replace some things, like the electrics which are notorious for being finicky on any stock PTW.
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So I have a barrel replacement for my WE M9. How do I stop being a chicken shit and take it apart and replace the barrel?
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>>2172555
It's not that hard, it's basic field stripping. Hell gas guns are generally some of the easiest guns to work on, barring things like spring snipers.
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>>2172563
Mate if you own a WE M9 then being afraid to literally take the side off is the least of your problems.
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>>2172563
I'm mustering the courage. I've gotten down to the part where you need a screwdriver I'm just worried about fucking up the rubber part.
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>>2172552
>A&K PTW clone is fucking $1000 less
wew, knowing A&K I bet it's absolute shit
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>>2172552
Systema.
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>>2172572
>WE meme
Don't listen to the retards. I have a WE M9 and it's a solid gun. The only thing that broke was a trigger spring and that could break in any gun.
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>>2172108
Fuck off, TM Mk23 was a meme gun since forever.
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>>2172600
Kek, first time I hear about that kind of issue.

Everything "could break in any gun", but WE has shitty QC and crappy materials, it's not a "could" it's a "will" in case of WE.
>Every gun could be dogshit like WE M14
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Guys, does a dedicated P90 sling work with the P90 ass implant ?
Also where to get dedicated P90 sling an ass implant in Europe ?
Also which mags are guaranteed to work in a Cyma one ?
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>>2172540
>>2172599
You're fucked. Propriatory spare parts. magazines and shit.
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>>2172706
Well in that case every GBB is prone to that. My GHK AKM broke it's auto sear after only like 400 bbs. Although I admit WE M14 is in it's own league.
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>>2172710
If the sling is anything like the F2000, you will have to take it off every time you want to plug or unplug a battery.
Shit sux, even HPA tapping won't fix the issue because you still need to plug and unplug FCU.
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>>2172714
I don't mind taking off the sling every time for a battery change.
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>>2172713
I wish I would be satisfied with some basic shitter Glock and M4 or something.
Instead I chase unicorns like FN2000 and Blowback Mk23 and have to deal with their shitty issues even though they're as expensive as airsoft guns get.
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>>2172600
>claiming to own things without proof

WE is shit.
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>>2172728
I'm not going to specifically take pics for some autistic fuck on a Luigi image board because right now I'm at work and I already took pics twice in the last week alone. Go be retarded elsewhere.
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>>2172716
Same here. Thank God I stopped and forced myself to buy a LCT AKM.
It was such a pain in the ass to find a damn scope mount for my FNC, then a low-profile enough red dot. Don't do rare guns, kids.
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>>2172736
>Don't do rare guns, kids
See this is why I like my StG and MG42. They don't need any scopes or other bullshit so that's a non issue.
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>>2172734
Disregarded
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>>2172600
You can just buy a new spring right?
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>>2172758
Yeah and they're like 1 dollarydoo or even less.
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>>2172742
>not putting a scope on an mg42
>not trying to 1 up the faggot with the scoped pkm.
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>>2172742
>>2172851

Yeah no totally, no one's ever done that.

Serbians did it with the M53 during the Yugoslav war, Germans are doing it now with the MG3KWS
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>>2172728
>People need to show proof of a WE M9
>Literally THE most common blowback pistol in the US
What do you want proof of next, that he has lungs that breathe air you whiny bitch?
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>>2172851
>>2172857
I'm not going to go ahead and ruin part of my gun which doesn't have any external replacement parts.
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>>2172950
>2 small holes in the upper cover
>ruined
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>>2172742
Enjoy your nonexistent mid-caps and hard-to-get internal parts. I like your taste, but these guns have their flaws.
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>>2172957
Hey if you want irreversible holes in your guns be my guest.
>>2172959
Which parts? StG is basically an M4 inside and MG42 is based off M249 to my knowledge. Agreed on mid caps but I will be nigger rigging those myself at some point.
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>>2172963
Nope. MG42 is proprietary as fuck. A friend of mine got one, but had to sell it when it broke inside, since the parts were unavailable. I'm talking about AGM one.
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>>2172967
Yeah I have the AGM one but that's weird. I'll worry about it when it shits itself though.
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>>2172963
>Hey if you want irreversible holes in your guns be my guest.
>what is leaving the scope mount on, thus plugging the holes
If you wanna come drill 2 holes in my gun sure id let you.
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>>2173003
I wanna plug your hole.
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Anybody here own a Tokyo marui breaches or longer m870 version?
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>>2172712
Money isn't an issue, I'm talkig build quality and how well it shoots.
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>>2173144
I wanted to get one, but apparently they're leaky, so I'll wait until I can afford HPA before considering getting a Breacher.
Fuck Green Gas too.
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>>2168845
>hasn't timestamped still

BTFO confirmed
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>>2172910
Not posting proof of claimed ownership is in direct contravention of the stated rules of /asg/, and a blatent floutation in the face of the authority here.

Non compliance can result in:
>an IMMEDIATE ban
>revocation of airsoft licence (pending or actual
>BLACKLISTING
>an unlimited fine
>criminal/legal proceedings

You've been warned, your move kid.
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>>2172963
>StG is basically an M4 inside
Doesn't it have a ver.3 Gearbox, like AKs?
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>>2172580
The bucking is already shit out of the box, it's not like you can do any worse.
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>>2172587
It's okay, but you'll end up spending about the price of a G&D once you replace all the shit in it.
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>>2173374
Nope. Just checked to be sure and its a v2.
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>>2172910
I need to see proof so that you say even matters
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>>2173369
>>2173454
Wait how do I know you people aren't dogs shitposting on laptops?
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>>2173477
Why do you keep giving this turbo autist (you)s?
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WE F226
>3 years
>no maintenance outside of applying silicone oil
>dropped frequently because of shitty holster
>great gas efficiency
>used the same mag since purchase
>still the hardest kicking gbb pistol I own

Only regret is the autistic two-tone sanding job I did when I first got it.
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>>2173501
Not M9fag but still thought I'd chip in
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>>2173501
>>2173504
(You)
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>>2173504
Prove it.
Timestamp a picture lacking a M9.
I'll be waiting.
>>2173422
Prove it
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>>2173547
Shit anon, you got me :^(
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>>2173295
>>2168845
>>2168515
Stay mad kids.
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>>2173547
Now THIS is autism.
>>2173562
>>2173597
And I dont understand why the two of you fell for the autists trap.
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>>2173603
the irony
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>>2173562
Poorfag
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>>2173597
>Sentinels
>Canada
fuck off Robo
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>>2173597
Well, it's official now, while you might be a giant dick, you have some hilariously good shit at least.

What I don't understand though is that if you can afford multiple gen 3 devices, why you didn't dish out two hundred more for the carbon helmet instead of the LTP?

Also post more kit plox
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>>2173615
I've spent nearly 2k since last June, anon
I haven't really used pistols since about that time as well.
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>>2173597
Nice. My friend had ANVIS-9s for a little bit and they were fucking awesome.
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>>2173597
>buying sentinels
>not spending the same money on BNVDs and having a better more adaptable platform

Cancer.
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>>2173620
Poorfag
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>>2173617
>assuming one person
Im PVS14 faggot, sentinal faggot busy not shitposting right now.
We're in Canada, and the price for a carbon helmet isn't worth the weight savings to us. It'll be a possible upgrade in the future, but for now not worth the dough.
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>>2173597
Wtf do you do for a living
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>>2173634
>Not PSQ-20s so you can have actual walls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=105&v=mmut2Xd_dyo
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>>2173634
You're just mad you cant afford them.
>>2173652
Things and stuff.
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>>2173658
seriously are you some kind of druglord or some shit to throw away 7k like that
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>>2173670
My friend dropped somewhere around that on his AVIS-9s and he does freelance concert photos and video. I guess he just saved up and succed some dicc on the side too.
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>>2173670
It's called saving money and not having to ask if they want fries with that.
Put money to where you want it to go.
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>>2173670
Also, civvie sentinals are about 7k usd
These are milspec, 13k CAN.
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>>2173675
>>2173681
>>2173688
You have 10 seconds to prove you are all not african druglords.
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>>2173620
>I've spent nearly 2k since last June, anon
Prove it, post bank roll.
>>2173650
>We're in Canada
Prove it, post milk in bags.
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>>2173697
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>>2173697
>>2173616
>>2173725
Proof not robo.
I'm not going outside to impress some autist on the internet, if you don't believe, not my problem.
I'm done with pics for now.
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>>2173766
Can you post a topless photo my senpai man?
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>>2173766
how often do you use the NVGs?
do you also have compatible sights/pointer?
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>>2173697
You got me white boy
PS rate my team
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>>2173779
Ooga booga where da eyepro at
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>>2173773
No.
>>2173775
At night.
Everything is nvg-compatable.
Aimpont T1 with KAC QD mount, Surefire M600-V-B, Steiner ITAL
Rail is realsteel too.
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>>2173784
In the Squad's BMP at the parking lot we're not on the field yet
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>>2173779
>M81
>3 Cell Chicom
>Beanie
literally me when I started, minus the niggatry
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>>2173786
>At night
Well duh, but how many times a year to you get to play at night and actually use it?
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>>2173796
I go to 6-8 18-36h milsims during the summer, field here runs lights out games once a month as well.
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>You play a night ops game
>You see two dudes buttfucking through your expensive NVGs
>They're friendlies
wat do
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>>2173802
This is exactly why I own a P*
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>>2173779
Jaundice/10
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>>2173779
>yfw these guys have NODs worth more than your whole kit
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What do you think of this kind of alternatives ak such as the AMD-65 of LCT ?
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>>2174254
It's still an AK, but you lose out on aftermarket stocks.
>>
Wolverine engine or polar star?
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>>2174305
You get the same thing out of both, just go for whatever is cheaper.
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>>2174361
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Just found out the krytac Origin 12 is gonna be a AEG, this could be the precusor to a saiga or the USAS. Also the mag release might be pain accidently bumping it
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>>2174492
>claims without evidence
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>>2174416
>>2174361
wake me up inside

>tfw this isn't even everything
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>>2172710
You either have to buy the real one or make one yourself
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>>2174506
Sorry forgot to post video
https://youtu.be/fcd1GuZpyRg
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>>2174580
>responding to the proofs autist
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>>2174585
>its autistic to want to see where another anon is getting their information from

autistic reasoning
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>>2167633
Most of the girls I've played with have been speedsofters. A lot of them came from gymnastics and track backgrounds before they started airsofting, so they've basically been just absolutely swarming the fields when they play, covering the most ground at start and just taking absolutely every corner before anyone else can.
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>>2174746
>mags facing different sides
>mags facing upwards

anon wtf is wrong with you
>>
you guys think it would be a bit faux pas to hit on a girl during an airsoft match. assuming they dont have a boyfriend
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>>2174746
What BDUS?
>>
>>2174774
hes from California, they all pretty much do that at one point or another
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>>2174783
why though
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>>2174789
XD
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>>2174788
i think it has to do with the high number of airsoft fields that exist in southern california. THe high volume of fields combined with the popularity of video games, means many individuals jump into airsoft with little to no understanding of basic practices, like cutting corners, trigger discipline, KEEPING YOUR GODAMN EYE PRO ON, basic maintenance, removing your mag and clearing your gun before exiting the field etc. Dont get me wrong, i was stupid too, but the lack of more experienced players to guide and tutor the younger gen means they develop bad habits, and once they get the whole group going, any attempts to correct them will be seen as a personal attack, rather than trying to help
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>>2174774
I just took the picture of him, I have no clue how he plays like that, but it seems to work for him.

>>2174778
We're gonna be playing together tomorrow, so I'll ask him then.
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Leave my thread of you dont agree
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>>2174811
Wasn't this made by /k/ to mock us?
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>>2174746
>>2174809
>Dutch angles
Might as well stop there my guy.
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>>2174830
no it was made by msw to make fun of lion claws
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>>2174855
Hey man, I will Dutch angle all I want, and you can't stop me.
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>>2173800
Well, i guess it sort of justifies it then.
I know people who bought military grade NVGs and attachments just to use them once or twice a year.
>>
fatsuka btfo
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>>2175168
You only need to justify it for yourself.
I got some team mates that only get to play 3-4 times a year, yet still hang onto their nods.
At least in Canada, if you own a decent tube (gen 2 or 3) the value will appreciate because the demand WAY outlives the supply for the forseeable future. Nobody save for a few people are willing to smuggle shit in anymore, and most of the nice tubes that have "fallen off the back of a truck" have been snatched up.
It's pmuch become an investment that will at the least retain its value as long as you dont fuck it up.
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>>2175223
>You only need to justify it for yourself.
I think so too, I like to collect shit, even though most of it is useless in the current situation, because of how basic airsoft is around here.

I'd buy NVGs if I could afford them. Maybe when I can afford a car of my own I could just move somewhere with a better community.
Why not be prepared for vehicle/night/limited games by then.
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>>2174361
You can, if you stop buying rhino mounts and black multicam.
>>
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=30530
>Promise AEG Kriss Vector
>Should in theory be cheaper than the GBB version
>Price is 450 on preorder
Hahahahaha fuck you Krytac
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>>2175016
Shepard.
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>>2175264
Never.
>>2175471
>$450

Dammint, I really wanted that thing. I was expecting a mid $300 range. How much do the GBBs go by these days?
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>>2175512
Gbb rifles go around 300 to 500 dollars. I could imagine the vector aeg dropping in price after the release. My fnx was 225 when it came out, now it's around 150 at my local store.
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>>2175553
Do you think it would be better to wait it out for the AEG to drop price or go for the GBB?
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>>2175666
Wait for the AEG price to drop. The GBBs aren't in production anymore and you'll be either buying a new in box GBB for over 500 or you'll be buying a second hand GBB with who knows how much wear for 300+
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>>2175512
>can't afford a $450 AEG
>owns a GBBR setup which looks to be over $500

????
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>>2171109
Nice SA-58, I really like the look of those rifles. But I spent too much on other guns lately so I probably won't end up getting one.

>>2172959
>Enjoy your nonexistent mid-caps
This is something I don't really understand, why hasn't a company stepped out and made a big run of mid caps for the STG's? It's probably something akin to making free money.

>>2173395
This Anon kind of has a point

>>2173779
Boko Haram/10

>>2174254
I had one of these, a very unique gun. I liked weird guns and the AMD-65 scratched that itch for me for a bit. I personally liked it but I'm fairly flexible when it comes to odd ways to hold guns, the front grip doesn't feel great as a traditional vertical grip, I cupped my hands around the front of it instead. The stock also serves only as a third point of contact and not as a traditional stock does, so it's a little strange feeling at first but you get used to it. This type of stock is great for big bulky masks if you wear them, you have the additional point of contact without having to lay your cheek on the stock to see down the sights. I think alternative AK's are neat, it's kind of neat to break the mold with something a little different, and in particular I think the Bulgarians had an interesting AK design. But then I just love AK's.
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I just bought a Baofeng UV-5R, and now I need a headset that will fit under a boonie hat. Does anyone have any recommendations? The ones I'm looking at seem to only have earpieces.


if it matters, my kit is VDV-centric.
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>>2175845
>replying to 7 different posts all at once
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>>2175879
>being autistic
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>>2175761
It's an entire GBBR setup compared to one stock AEG you don't even know whether its good or not, yeah I can afford it but it's not really worth that much to me.
>>2175845
What made you get rid of the AMD?
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>want full sized FAL
>the only one is the ares
Why live ;_;.
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>>2175471
>>2175885
>$450 for a plastic proprietary sack of shit with lpeg teir accuracy

embarrassing, anyone who buys this right now is retarded

https://youtu.be/o8IO12iy9Q0
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>>2175848
Have you tried a bowman? Chink ones aren't that bad, chink PTTs on the other hand have a high failure rate, but it's not magic, so they're easy to repair.
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>>2175894
>rifle as long as the Titanic
>no RIS
>carry handle
>unadjustable stock
>rock-in mag
>iron sights
Go suck a fuck grandpa, the FAL is old and shit.
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>>2175903
That's exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for. Thanks Anon! Do they make models with the PTT button on the side of the headset?
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Would An Anon direct me towards the Wall Please....
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>>2175916
bad bait mate
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>>2175916
>bitching about long rifles
not everyone is a manlet, anon
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>>2174830
>>2174901
>s h a l l o w l o r e
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>>2175916
Bad b8 m8 0/88
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>>2175960
dont you have children to molest in your basement you fucking faggot?
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>>2175969
>thinking that's actually skullfag
He doesn't use the scope on the pkm anymore.
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I need ppl's opinions. I have an AIM dragunov and it is broken, should I even bother fixing it or is it not worth it?
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>>2175994
You mean AIM as in the spring one?
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>>2176001
Gbbr
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>>2175994
Get an AEG Dragunov and don't worry.
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>>2176003
Well what exactly is broken? If memory serves correct, it's essentially an A&K springer with a GBB kit dropped in.
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>>2176319
>GBB kit
Wat.
A&K has no GBB kit, only a gas bolt, no?
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>>2176337
No as in it's the same thing as an A&K (Which is in itself a clone of the Atoz SVD), but with a new bolt, magazine, and trigger.
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New family photo!

r8/h8/etc.
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>>2176453
poorfag vomit as usual
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>>2176453
fuck off
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>>2176453
fuck off
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>>2175512
Multicam black is ugly and retarded and so are you, both ugly and retarded.
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>>2176695
>he wouldn't fuck best femboy

shit taste desu
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>>2176787
It's not that, literally just worst crye.
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>>2176794
>implying crye is bad
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>>2176319
It's the fire selector assembly I think
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>>2176814
nig nog I know, I own just about everything I can
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>>2176787
Wow, fuck you you bitch.
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>>2176838
>hasn't seen the light

shit taste will not be tolerated here anon
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>>2176892
>literal slut
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>>2176880
>>2176892
and so the duel of the attention whores begins
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>>2176892
id so cum all over that qt face
>>
I think it's about time all of you to stop posting.

>>2176880
Especially you. It physically hurts to be reminded that image exists.
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I wasn't gunna jump in on this, but fuck it. It's Saturday night, I had a few drinks, so I'll fag it up a little.
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Remember when we all thought it was finally dead?
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>>2176960
You're the only avatarfag I can tolerate. Don't lower yourself to this petty attention whore shit.
>>
>>2176978
>he doesn't find m81, greyfag and black multicam top teir
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>>2176972
>He fell for their "We're closing our doors (for the holidays), this is out LAST SALE EVER (for the year)!" bullshit that they pull every year
>>
>>2176960
Requesting first person pic of pkm
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>>2177100
bleh, give me a min. i just put it away
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>>2177100
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Post your favorite loadouts
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>>2177144
so are you skullfag or not?
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>>2177178
Don't start this fucking shit.
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>>2176955
Everything about you physically hurts
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>>2176955
f e m i n i n e
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m
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n
i
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>>2177178
He is though.
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>>2177144
>its that high up in person

do you have some adjustable giraffe neck or something? how the fuck is that comfortable?
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>>2177173
Actual best femboy
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>>2177222
it only really sucks of you're laying own. if you're standing its fine.
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Bought this today, comes in on Wednesday, did I fuck up? It was 40% off and I couldn't resist.
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>>2177237
it's a LMG 90% of what you should be doing is laying providing supressive fire

why don't you just take off the riser?
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>>2177273
looks comphy


How much was it and what's the name?
>>
>>2177222
Looks about the same as something like a 1P29 or any scope mounted on an A1 or A1 AR.
Besides, it's bbwars so it's not like you need a solid cheek weld like you would with a real rifle.
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>>2177276
Snow Wolf M1938, and for 310 Canada bucks after taxes.

I believe it has a proprietary hop up but I will find out soon whether or not I've really done a bad.
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>>2177299
>Besides, it's bbwars so it's not like you need a solid cheek weld like you would with a real rifle.

Yeah but that shit's uncomfortable
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>>2176955
>hands nearly engulf a fuckhuge pistol

jesus christ
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>>2168515
>And on Soviet NVGs - I'm not going to bother to pretend the PNV-57E goggles stand the slightest chance against gen 3 devices, I never did. In fact all I did say as positive traits for them is that they're very cost effective and that cataracts are fuddlore.
Gen.0/1 is actually bretty effective against more advanced units when you IR spam the fuck out of a target, especially when you have multiple shitters working with you and coordinating tactics. A lone PNV-57A is blind as a bat, but four or five of them with support and IR decoys can be a real bitch to deal with.

I really need to assemble a book of all the night tactics my fellow autists and I have come up with over the years
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>>2177496
And then that guy shows up.
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>>2177520
FLASHLIGHT FAGS GET OUT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>TAG 40mm projectile grenades will start being sold in the US primarily on Evike this month

https://youtu.be/ozyVztBlQvA

Feels damn good.
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>>2177551
>mfw my friends would show up to night games and overnight milsim ops with a bright ass HID spotlight to blind people with non gated gen 1s and cheap eyeclops night vision goggles
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>>2177588
Neat. Also I heard enola gaye is gonna sell dry pea grenades that I see in UK and japanese airsoft magazines in the US .
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>>2177792
Oh shit that is cool. Where'd you hear that?
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Who's on the West Coast and is planning to go to this?
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>>2175016
Whozzat acope?
>>
>>2177849
Looks like one of NC Star's "new" scopes where they just dress up the same old Colt scope replica.
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>>2177588
That dedicated AK GL might actually make me transfer to AKs one day, when I can afford TAGs.
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>>2178263
New thread
>>2178263
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>>2174551
I'm fine with purchasing it at a slightly higher price than average but I just want to know if the sling is gonna work with the extended ass implant.
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>>2176453
Post pics of the Tan AR
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>>2177802
On their twitter and on instagram
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>>2175879
Duly noted.

>>2175885
It actually started having some bad problems. I liked the gun a great deal but the inner barrel began to move inside of the outer barrel and the BB's began to hit the inside of the flash hider and throw them off or drop their FPS to just about nothing. I pulled the hop up out and re-seated the inner barrel in the bucking and hop-up and it seemed to help, but at that point in time I decided I didn't want to sit around and find out if the problem would crop up again. It also didn't really feed that well from a plethora of magazines that I tried. I believe the issue might have been hop up related based on these two issues, but at the time I thought I'd try selling it and moving on. It had only been to one game and it encountered that problem at the start of the game, all it had done before that time was a little target shooting, so I was worried it would be a problematic gun.
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>>2171466
The fastest semi-auto shotgun you can buy. Outruns the AA-12 on full auto and the saiga
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